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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 23, 2019, 04:35:08 PM
When BTC parity?



Soon™
542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 23, 2019, 07:22:30 AM
Sunday Haiku Day
We must try not to forget
Short BTC poems.

'Short Bitcoin poems' would have been syllabically correct Wink
543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 22, 2019, 10:59:38 AM
Any fiat or shitcoin investment now is looking pretty sad.

I was hoping for a shitcoin season, so I can flip more to BTC.  I guess it will come, but right now... ouch.
544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 22, 2019, 10:11:36 AM
Was there any good news I missed, that's triggering this?

Dafuq?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s88r_q7oufE

545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2019, 11:55:21 PM
Jeez - been away on holiday and just caught up.

Now this is rather fine stuff.

Er.... Boom!
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 21, 2019, 10:50:11 PM
XMR hits USD 100 and nobody saying anything?! Come on people
+1 4u but...

We are back to valuing in BTC. Tongue

Not sure about you, but I buy my lambos with dollars.

Joking aside, isn't it a bit ironic how many of us here (not everyone) believe XMR to be superior to BTC, yet use BTC to measure XMR's value? Not that USD is necessarily better, but it makes the most sense as a "real world" equivalent value comparison.

Well didn't we peak around 500$ or was that a dream?

It wasn't far off $500, certainly over $450 - you were not dreaming...   With scarcity kicking in now, I see no reason to not see new dizzy heights again...

547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 20, 2019, 09:57:25 PM
Juat been looking at Polo - I know it's not what is was, but...

There are always things I've watched there.

BTC chasing XMR used to be about 1:3, - that is all the buy side amounted to about one third of the Monero value on sale.

Now it has crept up to nearly 1:1 

Something is coming, there are not as many Monero around to buy, and a lot of BTC after them.

It's looking like it wants to kick off it me...  Gentlemen, I think Monero is due to shine as brightly as it rightly should.
548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 14, 2019, 11:11:39 AM
Sorry to hear the news, V8 - hope you both come through it ok.
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 01:32:53 PM

Interesting. I like this idea as well and think they would be compliments, not substitutes.  Smiley

Bc yes mad celebration is exactly what Im suggesting.

The 100k party is by far the biggest event talked about ever since I started following the thread in early 2014. It seems criminal to not attempt to honor it.

You're absolutely right, it will be a huge milestone - one we will all want to celebrate. Of course!

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The WO Celebration party sounds great and also something that afaik was just breathed into life by you and worth pursuing, but not at the expense of the 100k legend for sure imo Smiley

The ideas are not mutually exclusive.  It was just I thought there could be more certainty about the Halvening date.  It's actually because I really want to see the party actually happen - not because I don't want to celebrate, but precisely because I do.  

One question:

What price do you expect to see one year after the Halvening?

That is - whether it's $50K or $350K - do you think it would be worth a party?
550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 01:10:29 PM

EDIT: more than 220 paid 1 BTC and the money was locked until the event was canceled.

+ + +  MORE THAN 220 RESERVATIONS  + + +
Er....

we're doing a btc10k party, the XCP tokens already exist, just need to set it up

Why was the $1k party cancelled? Appeared to have quite a few reservations

yes it was cancelled. price went below 1k and people stopped paying their reservations. we wanted at least 100 tickets sold to have enough funds to get a decent set-up going. futhermore, the ticket set-up we used was designed by bits-of-proof. this company was sold to dtcc. we did not get 100 tickets sold = canceled....  Cry

220 'reserved', yes.  Less than 100 actually bought tickets.
551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 01:00:39 PM

U bring up good points.

Typically the longer someone has to think about something imo the more likely they are to back out. This is why corporate America works so hard to push impulse buying on everyone and why they say count to ten when you are angry.

I would have no problem doing this party with myself and my 2 guests if not one single Hat wants to come celebrate the new wealth.  Cheesy

All it would cost me would be I pay for all the limo out of pocket which is fine, more leg room!

Can someone fill me in on what led to the downfall of the 1k party, I didnt start following the thread till a few months after 1k.

Also how much time would be necessary in your opinion to properly plan and not feel rushed. Are you talking 3 weeks, 2 months, maybe a little more detail on that would help me understand where you are coming from. I would think anything more than a few weeks after 100k and a lot of the thrill would be gone.

Last one before we're kicked off the thread:

I think an arbitrary price figure is the problem.  May never get there / may hit it only fleetingly / crash right after  /  does not happen for three years - who knows?

When I mentioned timing it within a set time from the Halvening, it seemed popular. No pressure, time to plan etc.  And it is sure it will happen, so it can be booked.

If you want a mad celebration for 100K - a spontaneous thing does seem to make sense.   

I guess I was thinking of a WO celebration party (likely to be when we've already done very nicely financially) but not really about price, so much as a party for the WO 'anyway' - and it could even turn into a regular thing.  Anyone could organise a hookers and blow event to coincide with it, why not?  At least we'd all know when the party was and that it would actually happen if enough people wanted to go.

Time needed to organise a successful large event and actually attract enough people to make it work well? 

Months. Less than 12, probably more than 6.
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 12:31:05 PM
also Kurious I should mention a week after hitting 100k is plenty of time for anyone still working a job to tell their boss politely to go fuck themselves.  Cheesy
I work for myself, but I still might do just that!

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JK, but seriously it could be 2 fridays after 100k also. I think we can all live with 70k prices on the night party if we get a crash  Smiley Even if 100k is the top and we go into bear market that day 1 or 2 weeks later the price should still be at least 50k which should make everyone very happy.

Also 100k party could easily end up being a 200k party by the time we fly to our destination a week later.
Sure - but if it's a 'fly to' party - I still think you will struggle with numbers if it's short notice - although I am sure those who do come will enjoy it.

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Last thing is a host could schedule something 1.5 years or so after halvening for a separate party that everyone could plan far ahead for, but i dont really see how anyone could need more than two weeks to plan this. However multiple parties is not a bad thing bc each one will be that much more intimate, as long as at least 12 Hats plus their guests show up to a party it should be a great experience. This means we could have perhaps up to 4 awesome parties.

At the end of the day I think it will come down to 3 parties though. One in the US for hats, one in the Europe or an island for hats, and one for nonhats or late hat earners. We still have likely two more years of price appreciation and fomo to attract a lot of new talent to this thread and they will want to party, hat or not.


Personally id like to go to a few parties.  Smiley I think if we get that list we will know a lot more about how to proceed.

I'd like to meet people from all over, it's be a shame not to be at the same party as legends like say, Bob and Jimbo, Hairy and all who are not based in Europe as I am  - but I see your point - and I do love a party.
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 12:16:51 PM

One could just plan it in a conference style way. Thats pretty much exactly what you want.
Er... I loathe conferences and I certainly wouldn't want to attend endless Bitcoin lectures, if that's what you meant! 

Even if some do want 'hookers and blow' - it's fine, but I suspect many more won't.

I was picturing a classy central venue for the main evening with options for social stuff and fun (before, during and after). Something for everyone. 

I used to organise an annual trip to Europe for 300 boozers involving some diversionary entertainments (including a damn good live band they were all a fan of).  It worked really well - but took a shedload of organising.  It got too popular in the end when it got to 300 (the first year it was 50 people) and the stress of it wasn't worth it, but it was bloody good fun.

One thing I do know for sure is you need to flag it up a along time ahead if you want to be sure of getting decent numbers. Most people who were going to come, decided and booked many months in advance - we never sold more than a handful of tickets in the last month ahead.
554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 12:01:39 PM
Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.

In many cities this could be a problem, but in Vegas I can promise you that booking the restaurant for 25 people, nightclub for 75 people or less, stripclub 75 people or less, 1 stretch limo, and brothel for 25 people or less with a weeks notice would be eezy peezy lemon breezy.

A week is also plenty of time to get a fairly cheap plane ticket and hotel rooms are always abundant and inexpensive relative to quality in Vegas, even on zero days notice. Saturday is actually a better day since some will still have jobs and need to work Friday so consider this an amendment to my proposal. Also remember in my post no one but the host would have to put down a deposit for anything. As a Vegas host Im willing to pay in advance out of my pocket for the limo, VIP table and bottle deposits(the will likely just want to put a hold on a credit card at the most, if anything). The restaurant wont need a deposit for a party of 25, the stripclub wont need a deposit, and the brothel will not need a deposit.  

Multiple hosts is also to help with the fact that some will want a more wholesome party. I would never call you a party pooper for having different tastes. Also remember people can stay longer than a night and as WO members meet they can make separate plans to do things on sunday monday or however long they stay in town.

My party structure proposal did have 4 events and only the last 2 were of the non wholesome variety, but certainly a host could make a party with lots of wholesome events and completely avoid anything on the leaning towards debauchery.

All fair enough - and I would not wish to ban debauchery at all, but you're right it's not really my thing to head for a brothel with a load of loaded Bitcoiners Wink

Personally, I would not wish to book something in the hope people would show up, though, it would be a risk at short notice.  And it would have to be short notice.

There are way more people that would say they wanted to than would actually show up on the day in my experience. I suspect you might have a lot of people saying 'I would love to - it's just that weekend is a little awkward' and end up out of pocket.  At short notice it's way easier not to go than to actually go.

I am suggesting a little caution, that's all! 
555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 11:42:45 AM
Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?)

One year after Halvening maybe a good approximation for 100k.

Certainly a decent figure looks likely. 

My issue is (extreme example): What if it suddenly spikes to 100K for a few seconds on December 19th this year and then drops 30% a day later. 

1. Would anyone still organise the party to take place, given it's Christmas time and what had just happened?

2. Would anyone go?
556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 11:27:51 AM
Hi Lambie -
Multi-paties and all are fine, no problem with that.  However, whether it's one or many parties - organising anything within a week or so of breaking an arbitrary figure in price is at the very least difficult.  Just booking things up and people dropping everything to book a flight to get there means it is tough to see how it would work.

Fixing a date (based on Halvening, say?) and finding out well in advance how many takers there are makes it more feasible to set up, I would have thought.  Shoot me down, by all means - but people have lives and need to plan in advance - even decent hotels, restaurants etc are best booked in advance, surely...  Not many people will put a deposit down for a party on an unknown future date.  So how would you know numbers in order to book anything?

Also, for me and maybe I am not alone (I have no idea) I am not really up for hookers and blow. Never have been for the former, have weaned myself off the latter...  Call me a party pooper, if you like, but don't get me wrong; I do like the the idea of a party and a chance to meet people I have share the ups and downs with for years.  I also know some will head for the hookers and blow - and good luck to them, if they do - but I hope that is not all it is about. If there was a choice, I would be opting for beers and a chat.

Lastly, I might also like to explore a city and meet new friends with my partner in town with me. I may be alone in having this as a preference of course - but if it raises eyebrows to suggest this, I will just have to wait and hear tales of what I missed out on.

Edit: Some of this answered above while I was typing.
557  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2019, 10:53:04 AM
Decent long read on Money Bitcoin and Time....   Heavy duty economics on what hard money is, very well explained.

https://medium.com/@breedlove22/money-bitcoin-and-time-part-1-of-3-b4f6bb036c04
558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 12:08:51 PM
Im going to do some further investigations. I like the party ideas.


PM'd you...
559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 11:19:37 AM
4th Juni, Bday Hat.....
Thx Cryptoqueeen, my true love!
Now Azurmendi.

Another year F***!!
Time flies and life is too short.
Bon appetit, cheers.

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Happy Birthday - and best wishes to both you and your Cryptoqueen!
560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 11:14:34 AM
I tend to keep an eye on the 3 day 50/200 MAs.

But looking at current action according to my crude lines, seems the worst case is a touch under 7500.


I hope not so low, but at least this looks the worst it might go.  Correction to be expected, of course - and for me, no way it goes to 6K.
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