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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: November 05, 2015, 07:20:11 AM
Done Smiley
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: November 04, 2015, 07:30:11 AM
From our Slack channel:

Here's the latest release candidate. block for hard fork is planned at 500k, the var hiding the menu entries can be changed in html/js/nrs.js (forkBlock) - please do some testing, also on testnet if possible (The new features are active there).
When nobody finds any more issues we're ready to go Smiley

https://hz-services.com/downloads/hz-v5.2-rc3.zip

After starting new version on Windows 10, there is nhz.properties file created in C:\Users\xxxxx\appdata\roaming\NXT. It should be created NHZ directory, I think lot of us is using NXT also, so it could make some confusion.

EDIT: also compact.bat not working, error: Database not found. While run.bat and client are working. Seems some mess with directories for both commands. My db is in the same directory as NHZ 5.2 is.

Hey, I will have Mawo get back to you on this.

Just for information, I'm running 5.2 on main net.
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: November 03, 2015, 09:19:40 PM
From our Slack channel:

Here's the latest release candidate. block for hard fork is planned at 500k, the var hiding the menu entries can be changed in html/js/nrs.js (forkBlock) - please do some testing, also on testnet if possible (The new features are active there).
When nobody finds any more issues we're ready to go Smiley

https://hz-services.com/downloads/hz-v5.2-rc3.zip

After starting new version on Windows 10, there is nhz.properties file created in C:\Users\xxxxx\appdata\roaming\NXT. It should be created NHZ directory, I think lot of us is using NXT also, so it could make some confusion.

EDIT: also compact.bat not working, error: Database not found. While run.bat and client are working. Seems some mess with directories for both commands. My db is in the same directory as NHZ 5.2 is.
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: October 30, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
as a follow-up to my last post:

I ran diskdigger & recuva looking for the pass & tried every combination I could think of for the password to NXT...-FUB36.
Results = a lot of wasted addresses formed and no access to -FUB36.

So far no donations to help recover the 5k NXT lost  Cry Understandable, but surprising none the less...

How do you enter passphrase into client: copy-paste, by typing?

EDIT: As you think account is already lost, PM me with passphrase and public keys, I can try to play with it. I managed to recover some funds from accounts, where people made some mistakes with entering it to the client (typoes, missing words, etc.). You can check my posts on nxtforum.org regarding these matters.
545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: October 23, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
Yep and my prediction is fulfilled, NXT is back in the top 10


http://coinmarketcap.com/all/

I am very excited now, as you can see the price is going up, who knows what surprizes NXT has for us. If this goes the way I think then we will soon all buy a Lamborghini Cheesy

Don't be so excited, there is still 4.6M whales NXT waiting for dump Smiley

EDIT: go to jnxt.org/nxt/ and open account NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG Smiley

Thats only 35000$, barely moves the price by half %.  Plus what makes you think he will dump it.

This coins is on the path to go to the moon, I can feel it in my gut Smiley

I agree with bolded part Smiley But it will take some time.

P.S. It's only 30 BTC needed on Poloniex to dump NXT to 0.00000001 BTC Smiley Of course for short time Smiley
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: October 23, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
Yep and my prediction is fulfilled, NXT is back in the top 10


http://coinmarketcap.com/all/

I am very excited now, as you can see the price is going up, who knows what surprizes NXT has for us. If this goes the way I think then we will soon all buy a Lamborghini Cheesy

Don't be so excited, there is still 4.6M whales NXT waiting for dump Smiley

EDIT: go to jnxt.org/nxt/ and open account NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG Smiley
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: October 22, 2015, 10:11:37 AM
Maybe really stupid question: Jean-Luc posted roadmap for NXT and one of the planned features will be blockchain "pruning" (next year). Could Iota help using checkpoints not only for security, but also for "pruning" blockchain resulting data size decrease of it? Smiley
In other words, how close NXT and Iota can cooperate?

P.S. Not native English, sorry Smiley


Quote
Tangle-blockchain interoperability

Iota does not seek to replace the blockchain entirely, it also acts as a supplementation to the current blockchain ecosystem by acting as a oracle for smart contract platforms like Ethereum and Rootstock. Additionally it increases security of blockchains by enabling the ability to include checkpoints for transactions.
548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: October 22, 2015, 01:21:48 AM
Roadmap from Jean-Luc:

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10086.msg197291#msg197291

Quote
As you know, the Tennessee Project has the full support of the core developers. The success of this fundraiser is closely linked to the future development of Nxt, and I want to post here our current roadmap, as it stands now. You can see our development plan is long term - we need a long term marketing and business plan to go with it.

Development Roadmap

Disclaimer:
The NXT developers provide no commitment to deliver any of the features described herein, and reserve the right to change this product roadmap from time to time at their sole discretion.

NXT 1.7 (Dec 2015)
Coin shuffling
Account control for phased transactions
Immediate execution of phased transaction on approval
Stable block times, 60 s average, max 10 min
Fee spreading and throttling of unique resource allocation
Account properties
Singleton assets
Mac installer

To guarantee development past release 1.7, when faced with continued price decline and almost no marketing, we need your support for the Tennessee project. Show us that you care.

NXT 1.8 (April 2016)
Two factor authentication
Account transfer (panic button)
Account control
Controllable assets
Exchange API

NXT 2.0 (December 2016)
White label prunable blockchains
549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: October 14, 2015, 09:56:17 AM

Cosigners of the MS account, can you see my messages? I don't see ones.
v0.6.42 standalone.

Have same message, curious, did message reached voice of NEM correctly.

prob just a bug in NCC.

It's a bug in NCC. It'll be fixed next release.

All messages for the contest having been arriving just fine and all have been readable.

Is there somebody close to the right answer? Smiley
550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: October 14, 2015, 08:36:57 AM

Cosigners of the MS account, can you see my messages? I don't see ones.
v0.6.42 standalone.

Have same message, curious, did message reached voice of NEM correctly.
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NODE Revolution: "Money is a means of payment, not speculation" (с) on: October 12, 2015, 08:59:28 AM
From where is an action today? 26 transaction per hour made today. Maybe bter send missing payouts?
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: October 11, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Is this official and already working? (Saw on Facebook)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_0Z9jDGHPxPR3FKS3ZhWW9lWXM/view

What about node rewards for nodes on which is local harvesting, not remote?
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 08, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
OK, silence from devs about future plans, maybe holidays Smiley
554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 07, 2015, 09:54:21 AM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley


Please let me  put a simple example, All cars   have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to  the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto  too  it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or  even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your  number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.

For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.

I think that will be the  same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody  will  buy its.


Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.

Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.

Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?

Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?

It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?

P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.

P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?

P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Smiley Sorry.

Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter   by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.

I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?

The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it,
About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/,  Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear.
HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About  benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects.


Seems roadmap is a little bit old from your link Smiley OK, let's wait what devs have to say Smiley

This is acount NHZ-2B4Y-6JVX-VMB7-G8WSS dumping everytime, when balance reaches 1M or above. Seems he is running 139 nodes. Do you think he will stay in community and contribute something to HZ after distribution ends? I don't think so Smiley
139 nodes from 805 nodes is 17% of nodes running. Imagine what dump will be after distribution ends Smiley
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 07, 2015, 09:03:48 AM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley


Please let me  put a simple example, All cars   have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to  the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto  too  it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or  even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your  number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.

For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.

I think that will be the  same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody  will  buy its.


Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.

Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.

Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?

Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?

It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?

P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.

P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?

P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Smiley Sorry.

Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter   by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.

I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?

The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it,
About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/,  Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear.
HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About  benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects.


Seems roadmap is a little bit old from your link Smiley OK, let's wait what devs have to say Smiley
556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 07, 2015, 08:39:06 AM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley


Please let me  put a simple example, All cars   have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to  the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto  too  it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or  even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your  number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.

For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.

I think that will be the  same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody  will  buy its.


Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.

Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.

Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?

Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?

It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?

P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.

P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?

P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Smiley Sorry.

Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter   by your signature, The unique reason to low price
of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM.
By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe.

I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ.
Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)?
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 07, 2015, 06:00:25 AM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley


Please let me  put a simple example, All cars   have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to  the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto  too  it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or  even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your  number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.

For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.

I think that will be the  same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody  will  buy its.


Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs.

Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately.

Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses?

Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner?

It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming?

P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal.

P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.?

P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Smiley Sorry.
558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 07, 2015, 05:16:38 AM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley


Please let me  put a simple example, All cars   have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to  the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto  too  it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or  even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow,
but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples.
Your  number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus.

For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends?
So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind.
559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 06, 2015, 08:50:02 PM
Some thoughts before the sleep Smiley

I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly.
HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code.

What I want to say:

1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network.
2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them.

Curious, what devs and community think about it?

I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily.

Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end?

EDIT: some typoes edited Smiley
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: October 06, 2015, 08:00:06 PM
What expectations are about how many nodes will be alive after distribution ends?

I remember times with more than 3000 nodes, today there were 805. It is no longer worthwhile.
I think when the vps contracts expire, there will be hardly any node.

And big dump in the last distribution days Smiley
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