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5401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting massive acceptance of Bitcon on: January 19, 2011, 05:11:26 AM
Internet goods and services are an obvious fit, software, design, hosting, etc.
5402  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MicroNovel for sale in BitCoins on: January 19, 2011, 05:02:03 AM
There doesn't seem to be a way to browse files on bitcoinservice. Can we get a direct link?
5403  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MicroNovel for sale in BitCoins on: January 19, 2011, 04:29:32 AM

Actually this is a good idea!

I will do this right now and upload the PDFs!

Won't be a moment!

Don't use ubitous. Use bitcoinservice.co.uk. It have better commision fee as it is 10%. Ubitious takes 50%.

Oh, I thought there was another one, but then I thought I was wrong because I didn't see it on the trade page.
5404  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MicroNovel for sale in BitCoins on: January 19, 2011, 02:20:50 AM
Unfortunately I don't have a button as I don't feel this needs its own website. I'd just like to experiment with the concept first. If it gains more popularity I'll see if I can set up a website!

If you'd like to buy the other chapters, send me a BitCoin, allow up to 12 hours when I PM you the link (in case you PM me when I am sleeping).

Can't you set your own price at one of those bitcoin file download sites? I'll try to find a link. I enjoyed the first chapter.

Pastecoin.com seems to be down. AndI think Ubitious has a fixed fee still. Maybe no good solution yet.
5405  Economy / Marketplace / Re: We accept Bitcoins on: January 18, 2011, 11:03:19 PM
I am not affiliated with this site in any way. I just came across it in my google alert.

http://www.shamanscents.com

Clearly accepts bitcoin, even has it in the top menu bar.
5406  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin suddenly failing on start on: January 18, 2011, 11:00:39 PM
The log attaches but will not post.
5407  Economy / Economics / Re: US Closes 2010 With $14,025,215,218,708 And 52 Cents In Debt on: January 18, 2011, 01:52:06 PM

If left unsupported the system would clean itself out very quickly and the US would have a real recovery within 12 to 18 months. It would however scare the life out of the populous. If the federal government keeps trying to "fix" it the system might take up to a decade to restructure, very bad outcome as this would greatly prolong the suffering.

Or maybe it would scare some life back into the populace.
5408  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Bitcoin suddenly failing on start on: January 18, 2011, 01:19:19 PM
Bitcoin was working fine, I restarted, Bitcoin auto opened, and crashed. I opened it again, crashed again, I reinstalled, crashes every time. I uninstalled and installed again, no good. Everything else seems to work fine. I can't think of any cause. The only major thing I've done recently was install Ubuntu, but that was 2-3 days ago and it worked fine after that, and it shouldn't matter anyway.

I have to sleep soon, but I appreciate any suggestions of what to try and I'm curious about what caused this.

edit: It crashes really fast, if that matters. And it says "bitcoin.exe has stopped working" and "close the program" button.

edit again: I uninstalled, restarted and reinstalled and it works now. Has this happened to anyone else?
5409  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Promoting bitcoins to teenagers on: January 18, 2011, 09:45:47 AM

If you have 3 humans and one computer they will.

That's a good point.

The humans could unintentionally (or intentionally I guess) collude by having more info about each others likely holdings and future actions than the computer could.

But once the computer gets an eye they're screwed because the reading will be going one way only. But, like you said, that's probably far off yet.
5410  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the cryptography revolution begin too late? on: January 18, 2011, 04:37:26 AM
I want to clarify, I have no love for any corporation that makes deals with government, which happens to be all of them afaik.

You can think of my position as wishing to disarm corporations of their weapon, the government. So they can focus on the good they do, which is bringing me and my family things. And without government any that don't satisfy needs will simply fade away.
But without government how do corporations play nice with scarce resources like electromagnetic spectrum, the environment, fisheries, etc.?

This is as general a question as "How will people resolve conflicts and make the world better?". It's a really really hard question to answer and anyone trying is doing it wrong. Every specific little issue is hard, it will best be answered by the people who know about it and care about making it work or making it better. All I'm saying is that force is not the answer to any of these problems. I don't have one millionth the hubris required to give a blanket solution to all the problems humans face now and in the future. The people with the armies police and nukes unfortunately seem to have unlimited hubris.

And don't forget that the current situation is that we do have governments and the corporations are not playing nice. The solution of "Corporations get to use the airwaves and if I try I get hurt" is not playing nice. Neither is "This guy can have a farm that leaks waste because he paid us and if you have a farm that doesn't pollute I'm going to put you in jail".

So it isn't like these problems have been solved and I'm talking about unsolving them. I'm suggesting that we start looking for real solutions instead of the psudo-solution of "Put 2 million people in prison and threaten everyone else over and over with 100000 laws"
5411  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Making the Faucet sustainable.... on: January 18, 2011, 04:21:51 AM
Now if only you could buy an adcaptcha for bitcoins if you are a publisher....

I haven't figured out exactly how it works, the samples I'm seeing have things like "Fox sale" as what you type in, isn't that going to be very vulnerable to someone learning the small set of things that can come up? I assumed it was going to be a combo like "Dominoes 34ui4".
5412  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the cryptography revolution begin too late? on: January 18, 2011, 02:25:33 AM
I want to clarify, I have no love for any corporation that makes deals with government, which happens to be all of them afaik.

You can think of my position as wishing to disarm corporations of their weapon, the government. So they can focus on the good they do, which is bringing me and my family things. And without government any that don't satisfy needs will simply fade away.
5413  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Making the Faucet sustainable.... on: January 18, 2011, 01:35:34 AM
I gotta say, adCaptcha sounds brilliant.
5414  Economy / Economics / Re: Timecoin on: January 18, 2011, 01:33:13 AM
I suppose sarcastic. I'm just trying to demonstrate the silliness of arguing with people who don't want to be convinced. I'd like them to have the opportunity to learn (or prove to me they are right!) by actually using Timecoin.
feel your pain trying to change the thinking of sheeple, but that doesn't mean you have to implement the bad idea to prove they're wrong, there's no need, just watch the fate of US dollar (and other fiat currencies in the same sense). -- oh wait, has history seen enough failed currencies already?

Federal reserve and central banking have perfected the art of inflationary currency, I don't think timecoin can do better than that.

Anyway, I am still worried about the downside: split networks, added confusion, overextended resource, malinvestment...why don't we concentrate on what we believe is right?

It's so easy to implement that it is going to happen. It'll be a better experiment than the dollar because only one simple variable will be changed.

I think the split network concerns are unjustified, bitcoiners aren't going to bail en mass. Some new people will try Timecoin and see very few people accepting them as payment and a ridiculously low exchange rate to BTC and decide to switch to Bitcoin, and now we have a stronger network. It will be a temporary thing, unless it actually has some economic merit.
5415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin across the world on: January 18, 2011, 01:13:54 AM
Nice. Is there an easy place to see the total unique nodes ever identified?
5416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Major Retail Point of Sale Initiative in USA on: January 18, 2011, 01:05:25 AM
Bruce you are awesome. Your energy is unbounded.
Cant wait to see the new show.

Thanks!   Smiley

By the way, as an update:   The new show is called, "The Bitcoin Show".   It will be LIVE every week....  every Friday.... at 10AM to 11AM Easter Time (New York City time).

You will be able to watch LIVE, and join and ask questions, etc., in the LIVE chatroom, starting this coming Friday, January 21, 2011.... at 10am....   at http://onlyonetv.com

If you have suggestions for Guests we should interview about any aspect of Bitcoin, email me:  bruce@brucewagner.com

If you can't make it online at that time, it will be available for streaming or downloading, later, on that same site.

See you there!    Smiley

That's awesome. I'm watching the show with Yehonathan and Lyrik right now.

It'll be 5AM here so I probably won't be able to watch live, but I'll see it afterwards for sure.
5417  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Bank on: January 17, 2011, 11:21:10 PM
I don't understand how that would be useful. Once a coin is spent, it cannot be re-spent, right?

My suggestion was not to act as a backup but to have old address that you have set up (a static donation address, permanently associated with accounts etc) go automatically to the bitcoinbank. Plus if you lost contact with the site you could use your copy of the wallet to spend.
5418  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Bank on: January 17, 2011, 08:33:44 PM
Can I and how can I reserve the name BitcoinBank in this community?

And how do I buy the .org or .com domain?

I own bitcoinbank.com

It's for sale.  Accepting bids.  I accept bitcoins ;-)



Yes, I have received offers for .eu and .org also. I'd buy both .com and .org, but so far I don't have project.

I'm not sure what a BitCoinBank could offer that MtGox and MyBitCoin already offer

They could let you upload a wallet file and spend from that. Then you could lock away your own copy as your own backup so you don't have to trust them solely. This could also allow someone to maintain the same addresses through a transition from holding themselves to letting the bank manage it, which might be useful for some business.
5419  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes on: January 17, 2011, 08:24:11 PM
There is another aspect of it - regarding paying taxes Let's say, for the argument's sake, that I am willing to pay the taxes.

What if I sell goods at the price I got them (however, I buy them for Euro - and sell them for Bitcoins)? I will be able to produce receipts for the goods I bought - and show the "tax office clerk" the bitcoin rate at the time of sale, that would prove that I did not make any profit on that transaction (not even in Bitcoins). As a matter of fact this is the way I am going to do it - I don't want to make Bitconis on it - I just want to encourage people to start buying goods for them.

What do you guys think, would they have something on me then?

I was thinking it would be cool if there was a site, call it something like OfficialBitcoinExchange.com, and have it fail if people ever try to trade coins for more than $0.01/BTC. Sure there wouldn't be much volume, but for a small fee the site can print you some official looking exchange history and that's the paperwork I'm going to submit. Smiley

That is tax fraud, and they will get you for it.

If you were being paid in gold would this scam work?  If not, it wont work for bitcoin either.

I am absolutely not going to do what I described.

But can you tell me which site has the 'correct' exchange rate?
5420  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Promoting bitcoins to teenagers on: January 17, 2011, 10:49:12 AM
I don't think teenagers like chess very much.

Yes.  We have disgressed a bit.   And you don't need a graphic card to play chess anyway.


We just need to develop a resource intensive checkers game.... wait. WTF were we talking about?

I've fantasized about how games could be designed that have well defined rules that humans would have an advantage over computers for the farthest into the future. Go is the right sort of thing. How can we make a game more Go-like than Go?

games with hidden information that involve reading facial cues and such (poker for instance) are going to be dominated by humans for a very long time.  That doesn't translate to the internet mind you, as the cues get simplified to raises and such.

Even playing live facial cues are not going to matter when playing against a computer.
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