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561  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 23, 2016, 11:29:33 PM
If matlack can invest another church's money, ion would be set

Was he not from clearpoint church?

562  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 23, 2016, 03:21:29 PM
you are all sick delusional assholes if you think anything fruitful will come from your efforts here. Shinners will still be a shitwad, Matlock will still be scumbag and Mordica will still be a shit stain on boxer shorts. you are all powerless to do anything about it. the sad reality for you is that i know it and you know it.

What I know for sure is that if you really know what you're talking about then why are you hiding behind a newbie account?
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO starting in 48hrs on: August 23, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
One last question before ICO:

Where are you guys based? Under which jurisdiction and are you already registered as a LTD, Gmbh or what ever does apply under your current jurisdiction?

Where in EU the bank account will be based and under which name does it operate?

We are all based in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Except for some advisors and key holders. You can see most of out team on this pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/BJdG3cCgtix/

Company is registered in Czech Republic and that's where we also received money remittance licence from CNB (Czech National Bank).

All is operated under the company name Cashila OOD s.r.o. - the operator of ICONOMI. Bank account we have in 2 different banks in Slovakia - owned by the company with remittance licence.

Waoo! that was fast... See you tomorrow guys!  Wink
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO starting in 48hrs on: August 23, 2016, 03:13:47 PM
One last fundamental question before ICO:

Where are you guys based? Under which jurisdiction and are you already registered as a LTD, Gmbh or what ever does apply under your current jurisdiction?

Where in EU the bank account will be based and under which name does it operate?
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 07:09:20 PM
SEEMS like decent idea for coin but sorry looks like usual ICO crap coin.  Until devs prove otherwise still shady.

Also sorry I NO LONGER BUY ANY ICO COIN FROM RUSSIAN OR EASTERN EURO DEVS!  To many scam and bullshit from them!

WAVES was only last option LOL.

So where do you come from if you don't mind me asking?
566  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 22, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
Matlack is a pastor and will be Homer's spiritual adviser.

Who knows... Maybe Father Matlack will redress Garza's corrupted spirit and bring him back to salvation 😂😂😂
567  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 22, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
I'm guessing Matlack and Mordica:
http://prestigeauditing.com/about-the-owner

Allen has spent countless hours of work and successfully build a case against Garza. Why on earth would he do that if he was still a close associate of Garza?

Adam blindly lost over $500K and I doubt he's still Garza's best pal...

As for Joe yes he worked for Garza but later left GAW and fully collaborated with Allen and even the justice in order to build a solid legal case against Garza.

Yes these guys may have worked with Garza at some point but this doesn't make them intimate business partners or complicit. They would be complicit if as per today any of them would clearly stand by Garza's side. None of them does.

As for IONOMY, unless otherwise proven, only Adam seems to be involved...

11+ million still outstanding. It was claimed that 10 million (out of 16 million in existence at that time) where exchanged into ION so only ~5 million have been burned and they didn't even publish the addresses for the other 5 million.

On that one you are totally right. They should have burned XPY as promised.
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 12:01:48 PM
That depends on if you are long in BTC or not.

If you invest 10 BTC and we do refunding then you will receive all 10 BTC back. Now if you care if they are worth more or less in a few months that depends on you.

Long enough to recall the swing between $30 & $1K Wink

Ethereum lost quite a lot when after their ICO the BTC dropped down to $200.... But that's the risk to take when dealing with crypto... Isn't it?
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 08:06:09 AM
Another clarification needed:

For those who wish to participate in the ICO with fiat currencies:

  • will they also get an official certificate/contract of participation?
  • in case funds will be returned, will fiat payment be subject to depreciation like BTC or hidden fees or will the full invested amount be returned at the expense of ECONOMY?

For those investing with fiat everything is same. You invest and in exchange for invest receive ICN tokens. There is no contract signing or anything else. Straightforward.

In case of refunds we'll cover wire fee. That means if you send 5k usd in with OUR option we will receive 5k usd. Thus in case of returning we'll send all 5k usd back. And we'll cover transaction fees.
When you were sendinng money in, you also had to pay fee for wire transfer and that's the only expense u would have in case of returning funds.

With sending non usd/eur it will be the same. But because we'll convert anything that is not usd/eur into eur. You would be subject to volatility between eur currency and the currency that was sent.


Also thank you for copying an answer for translation bounties just before! Appreciated.

You're welcome! Thanks again for your answer. I guess it's wiser to invest in fiat then so as to avoid any possible depreciation with BTC in case funds shall be returned. Correct?
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 22, 2016, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: LiskHQ

We would never ask for anything on Twitter. Maybe there is a scammer, please be cautious!

Yes they are many imposters around so be watchful everyone!

Follow official social media only:

https://blog.lisk.io (the best source of info to my opinion)
https://www.facebook.com/LiskHQ
https://twitter.com/LiskHQ
https://plus.google.com/117072384375798857010/about/p/pub?hl=en
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lisk
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 07:52:42 AM
I am interested in translation bounty, what does 100 stakes mean? 100 coins? Or total coins/total stake= 1 stake, and we get 100*1 stake coin?

Your question got answered earlier:

It's calculated differently. Actually even better for you.

400k tokens will be proportionally distributed to all the stakes collected in translation and moderation bounty.
If you do translation you receive 100 stakes. Then for each post in your local thread you get 5 more stakes.

Example:
- you do translation: 100 stakes
- your local thread receives 50 posts. Then you also get 50x5 stakes = 250 stakes

That way your total stakes are 350.

If all the stakes earned for translation and moderation are 5000. Then your share is 350/5000 stakes. 5000 stakes equals to 400k ICN tokens.
That means that each stake is worth 80 tokens.

In the example above you would receive 28,000 ICN (80 x 350) tokens for your translation and keeping the thread alive.


572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 07:49:25 AM
Another clarification needed:

For those who wish to participate in the ICO with fiat currencies:

  • will they also get an official certificate/contract of participation?
  • in case funds will be returned, will fiat payment be subject to depreciation like BTC or hidden fees or will the full invested amount be returned at the expense of ECONOMY?
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 07:40:39 AM
Thanks for your answers so far but I'm really keen to know the escrow rules. Will funds be released right away when the 2000 BTC has been reached with the ICO?

Funds collected during ICO are released only when we launch and distribute ICN tokens.

Here is a full blog post about collecting, rules, escrow: https://medium.com/iconominet/collecting-funds-and-multisig-key-holders-d2bb5d517a6f#.y9me4hp5g

Which means (if I read it well) that "If the funds aren’t released by the end of Q4 2016 (or by 31/12/16), meaning that we (ICONOMI) didn’t deliver our service, funds will be immediately returned to all the participants."

Is that correct?

That is correct.

Thanks! Clarification much appreciated 👍
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 07:34:30 AM
Thanks for your answers so far but I'm really keen to know the escrow rules. Will funds be released right away when the 2000 BTC has been reached with the ICO?

Funds collected during ICO are released only when we launch and distribute ICN tokens.

Here is a full blog post about collecting, rules, escrow: https://medium.com/iconominet/collecting-funds-and-multisig-key-holders-d2bb5d517a6f#.y9me4hp5g

Which means (if I read it well) that "If the funds aren’t released by the end of Q4 2016, meaning that we (ICONOMI) didn’t deliver our service, funds will be immediately returned to all the participants (by December 31 2016)."

Is that correct?
575  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 22, 2016, 07:24:56 AM
You are truly moronic, and especially after the upstanding things I heard about you in the past, I have no respect for you now.

And " If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here."

You would not have the balls (sic) to change your ways and thinking when the products are delivered so please do not try to pull the perverbial wool over my eyes.

You're missing the point my friend. Even if I removed ION from the title and went on a sabbatical to travel around the world - that wouldn't make the whole ionomy thing any more successful. This thread, or what I think, or the size of my sick balls doesn't make or break the project, just like it didn't for Garza. Who by the way was also very unhappy about the discussion here, so go figure.

Suchmoon I do respect the work you've done over the years, gathering so many pieces of evidence and proving A+B that Garza is a scammer and as Allen stated on several occasion, your contribution is by far the most valuable one and thanks to you, has enabled GAWsuit to collect enough evidences for it's case.

However, I agree with Krumz on that one! ION has nothing to do with Garza and should not be listed in that thread.

Apart from the fact that Krumz & TeamXPY have spent a considerable amount of time and personal ressources trying to revive a coin in which they believed, they shouldn't be linked with Garza anymore. All of them got scammed by him and this doesn't make them complicit, quite the contrary!

Krumz got a bit excited and didn't moderate his "French" but this doesn't make him a bad guy. Anyone would probably react the same way if you get repeatedly throw into the mud....

Not trying to raise a dispute here but genuinely trying to understand some of the following accusation:

Quote from: Phildo
You realize that team ion is lead by a man who is currently business partners with one of the main culprits in enabling the GAW scam to rope on as many people as it did, right?

Who are you referring to and can you please provide facts?

Quote from: Phildo
...collecting the xpy to start definitely puts them together.

Have they not burned all the collected XPY? If not can you prove it?


576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 22, 2016, 06:05:14 AM
I read on twitter that even with ico and premine, you are asking for more money from investors, is that true?

source?

www.imabutthurtlittletroll.com   Cheesy

😂😂😂😂😅
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:07 AM
I read on twitter that even with ico and premine, you are asking for more money from investors, is that true?

source?

In his dream...
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ICONOMI - Financial Services for the Decentralised Economy. on: August 22, 2016, 05:58:17 AM
OP must have a organize road map for this project. i think visual road map is good for easily understand the program of the project.
i will invest later once i have my funds.  Wink
this is a bit strange for me too. I can't see any road map in the OP. I think A road map is very important for a newborn crypto currency. we should at least know what you guys going to do and when you guys going to do..
at least ICO time is announced. but lots of other things which should be listed in Road map.
like wallet, exploror, web wallet, mobile wallet, mining pool, listing in exchanges etc.

OP give here some attention please.

Just read the whitepaper again. If you participate in the ICO you will in turn receive shares and consequently become a shareholder. All the shares (or tokens if you prefer) will be premined and distributed on top of the Ethereum blockchain, thus avoiding the need of a mining pool, explorer etc...
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: August 18, 2016, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: honolulumark




Beside any political views, I like that picture! The 1949 Revolution... What a remarkable photoshoot! I'm a fan of black & white photos. Looking at someone’s face, or into their eyes, without the distraction of color provide a stronger emotional connection with the subject.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 18, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
Quote from: BoldNinja

Total coins in existence is set at 100m, however 85m will be sold in the ICO so if they collect exactly 2000 BTC that would mean you get 42500 ICONOMI coins per BTC for your investment of 20 BTC that would means 850k coins and if they collect 10000 BTC that would mean 8500 ICONOMI per BTC meaning for your 20 BTC investment you'd get 170k . Value of each coin increases for every investment made final numbers won't be available till last investment comes in.



Thanks for the explanation. That's the answer I was looking for.
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