GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Phildo]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title, you narrow minded imbecile. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

So you are going to tar all with the same brush, you may as well call me a scammer too as I am on the team, just ignore the shit I do for ppl daily and the XPY I gave out and now ION - bought off exchange from my own pocket, projects I contribute to and the services I start. And FYI there is more info to come and timeline about the past. I cannot and will not try to sway the deluded views here. That is all.

I'm not sure exactly who you are, but my beliefs are pretty clear. EVERYONE as deeply involved as matlack is either an idiot of epic proportions for falling for the obvious scam, or a scumbag who was trying to turn a profit from the obvious scam but got burned by a bigger crook.

I don't particularly care who falls into which group since I treat projects with both of those types of people the same. I don't know or care if you fit into one of those groups, but ion does, and will fail because if it  (and because it makes zero fucking sense beyond that.)

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[krumblez]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title, you narrow minded imbecile. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

So you are going to tar all with the same brush, you may as well call me a scammer too as I am on the team, just ignore the shit I do for ppl daily and the XPY I gave out and now ION - bought off exchange from my own pocket, projects I contribute to and the services I start. And FYI there is more info to come and timeline about the past. I cannot and will not try to sway the deluded views here. That is all.

I'm not sure exactly who you are, but my beliefs are pretty clear. EVERYONE as deeply involved as matlack is either an idiot of epic proportions for falling for the obvious scam, or a scumbag who was trying to turn a profit from the obvious scam but got burned by a bigger crook.

I don't particularly care who falls into which group since I treat projects with both of those types of people the same. I don't know or care if you fit into one of those groups, but ion does, and will fail because if it  (and because it makes zero fucking sense beyond that.)

I lost a lot of money in BTC to Garza.

I am ion_krumz.

I, and the others around me are here to make a difference.

[bitpop]

Bitcoin is still here, how about invest in that and relax. Gawtards could've bought bitcoin at $150 instead of cashtakers. But sadly bitcoin wasn't viable.

[krumblez]

Bitcoin is still here, how about invest in that and relax. Gawtards could've bought bitcoin at $150 instead of cashtakers. But sadly bitcoin wasn't viable.

We all make mistakes in life.

[bitpop]

Bitcoin is still here, how about invest in that and relax. Gawtards could've bought bitcoin at $150 instead of cashtakers. But sadly bitcoin wasn't viable.

We all make mistakes in life.

Yes it's sad but another coin is not the answer.

[krumblez]

Bitcoin is still here, how about invest in that and relax. Gawtards could've bought bitcoin at $150 instead of cashtakers. But sadly bitcoin wasn't viable.

We all make mistakes in life.

Yes it's sad but another coin is not the answer.

As conversed above, the whole ethos with the ionomy is to make a difference, it is not a PnD affair but one of innovation and forward thinking. I hope it can be looked at in a different light in time, rather than as in the same dank environment as XPY / Ganza thief is.

[Phildo]

Good luck on making a difference, not sure how to do that when being lead by either an idiot or a scumbag.

Anyone that believed that hashlets existed or that Garza would pay 20 per coin is an idiot, anyone that didn't and was still involved in GAW is a scumbag. It's early, so I can't come up with anyone that lost a lot of money to Garza without fitting into one of those groups, so sorry if I'm insulting you, just calling it as I see it.

I really don't see how people in those categories will make a meaningful difference (unless robbing others to make up for their own personal losses counts) and I REALLY don't know why you guys needed to collect a bunch of XPY to make your difference, but again, good luck, stick around for more laughter at the next chapter in this saga, it's a lot of fun.

[suchmoon]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Yes, I'm the fucking moron you're looking for. How is adding something into a thread title "narrow minded and disrespectful move"? Especially right next to "ALWAYS MAKE MONEY"?

I've had many different things in the title over the years, Garza's every project from hashlets to Coinstand, as well as spin-off attempts like BTCLend or xpy.io. Speaking of which, isn't ionomy a rebranding of xpy.io, a project that was supposed "to give ppl some value back" and failed utterly?

This is not a scam accusation thread, it's in "Service Discussion", so chill about "robbing" and "shitting" and all. If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here. However...

As conversed above, the whole ethos with the ionomy is to make a difference, it is not a PnD affair but one of innovation and forward thinking. I hope it can be looked at in a different light in time, rather than as in the same dank environment as XPY / Ganza thief is.

Let's see. ionomy/ION

a) is a 100% premined coin
b) converted 10 million XPY into ION (and forgot to burn the XPY but that's another story)
c) has 100% inflation in the first year
d) has no transparency WRT ICO funds or the premine
e) doxes opponents
f) is months late to produce their first game despite promising 1 game a month

I could go on but I think this is enough to dispel this myth about "ethos".

You know what would have been ethical and also would have maximized the value for the bagholders? If the assorted XPY and ION foundations and teams hadn't attempted to resuscitate Garza's leftovers at all. Everyone should have gone their separate ways when Garza disappeared in early 2015 and made their own choices. But there is apparently a very persistent group of paycoiners who love to be told where to put their money and another group of slightly evolved paycoiners who love to take said money. Whatever makes them happy I guess.

[krumblez]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Yes, I'm the fucking moron you're looking for. How is adding something into a thread title "narrow minded and disrespectful move"? Especially right next to "ALWAYS MAKE MONEY"?

I've had many different things in the title over the years, Garza's every project from hashlets to Coinstand, as well as spin-off attempts like BTCLend or xpy.io. Speaking of which, isn't ionomy a rebranding of xpy.io, a project that was supposed "to give ppl some value back" and failed utterly?

This is not a scam accusation thread, it's in "Service Discussion", so chill about "robbing" and "shitting" and all. If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here. However...

As conversed above, the whole ethos with the ionomy is to make a difference, it is not a PnD affair but one of innovation and forward thinking. I hope it can be looked at in a different light in time, rather than as in the same dank environment as XPY / Ganza thief is.

Let's see. ionomy/ION

a) is a 100% premined coin
b) converted 10 million XPY into ION (and forgot to burn the XPY but that's another story)
c) has 100% inflation in the first year
d) has no transparency WRT ICO funds or the premine
e) doxes opponents
f) is months late to produce their first game despite promising 1 game a month

I could go on but I think this is enough to dispel this myth about "ethos".

You know what would have been ethical and also would have maximized the value for the bagholders? If the assorted XPY and ION foundations and teams hadn't attempted to resuscitate Garza's leftovers at all. Everyone should have gone their separate ways when Garza disappeared in early 2015 and made their own choices. But there is apparently a very persistent group of paycoiners who love to be told where to put their money and another group of slightly evolved paycoiners who love to take said money. Whatever makes them happy I guess.

You are truly moronic, and especially after the upstanding things I heard about you in the past, I have no respect for you now.

And " If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here."

You would not have the balls (sic) to change your ways and thinking when the products are delivered so please do not try to pull the perverbial wool over my eyes.

[bitpop]

ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY

[suchmoon]

You are truly moronic, and especially after the upstanding things I heard about you in the past, I have no respect for you now.

And " If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here."

You would not have the balls (sic) to change your ways and thinking when the products are delivered so please do not try to pull the perverbial wool over my eyes.

You're missing the point my friend. Even if I removed ION from the title and went on a sabbatical to travel around the world - that wouldn't make the whole ionomy thing any more successful. This thread, or what I think, or the size of my sick balls doesn't make or break the project, just like it didn't for Garza. Who by the way was also very unhappy about the discussion here, so go figure.

So when's the Gravity game coming out? I've heard things like "soon" for quite some time now.

For those too old to know what twitch is - when's the public beta coming?

Beta Testing will come after the Whales & Founders have done alpha testing... rumor is  "making another big push this afternoon/evening"

[krumblez]

You are truly moronic, and especially after the upstanding things I heard about you in the past, I have no respect for you now.

And " If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here."

You would not have the balls (sic) to change your ways and thinking when the products are delivered so please do not try to pull the perverbial wool over my eyes.

You're missing the point my friend. Even if I removed ION from the title and went on a sabbatical to travel around the world - that wouldn't make the whole ionomy thing any more successful. This thread, or what I think, or the size of my sick balls doesn't make or break the project, just like it didn't for Garza. Who by the way was also very unhappy about the discussion here, so go figure.

So when's the Gravity game coming out? I've heard things like "soon" for quite some time now.

For those too old to know what twitch is - when's the public beta coming?

Beta Testing will come after the Whales & Founders have done alpha testing... rumor is  "making another big push this afternoon/evening"

I have been playing the game for quite some time, and that 'rumour', well, SOOM  

Anyway, this thread is about Ganza and XPY...

[bitpop]

Soom, gotta be ganza

[krumblez]

Soom, gotta be ganza

It's a piss take on the SOON almost Ganzaeque trademark, almost a self-softening blow to alleviate the GAW pain...

[CryptoBuds]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Maybe if they were transparent they wouldn't have made this list. Instead they pride themselves in their secrecy and seem to aim to have the least transparent blockchain project ever. A little transparency goes a long way. But the team seems to have been too arrogant to realize it and now they are bitching about it? Don't shit where you sleep.

[clownius]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Yes, I'm the fucking moron you're looking for. How is adding something into a thread title "narrow minded and disrespectful move"? Especially right next to "ALWAYS MAKE MONEY"?

I've had many different things in the title over the years, Garza's every project from hashlets to Coinstand, as well as spin-off attempts like BTCLend or xpy.io. Speaking of which, isn't ionomy a rebranding of xpy.io, a project that was supposed "to give ppl some value back" and failed utterly?

This is not a scam accusation thread, it's in "Service Discussion", so chill about "robbing" and "shitting" and all. If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here. However...

As conversed above, the whole ethos with the ionomy is to make a difference, it is not a PnD affair but one of innovation and forward thinking. I hope it can be looked at in a different light in time, rather than as in the same dank environment as XPY / Ganza thief is.

Let's see. ionomy/ION

a) is a 100% premined coin
b) converted 10 million XPY into ION (and forgot to burn the XPY but that's another story)
c) has 100% inflation in the first year
d) has no transparency WRT ICO funds or the premine
e) doxes opponents
f) is months late to produce their first game despite promising 1 game a month

I could go on but I think this is enough to dispel this myth about "ethos".

You know what would have been ethical and also would have maximized the value for the bagholders? If the assorted XPY and ION foundations and teams hadn't attempted to resuscitate Garza's leftovers at all. Everyone should have gone their separate ways when Garza disappeared in early 2015 and made their own choices. But there is apparently a very persistent group of paycoiners who love to be told where to put their money and another group of slightly evolved paycoiners who love to take said money. Whatever makes them happy I guess.

You are truly moronic, and especially after the upstanding things I heard about you in the past, I have no respect for you now.

And " If the ION team would happen to amaze us with technological innovation, transparency, business execution - that's what we would discuss here."

You would not have the balls (sic) to change your ways and thinking when the products are delivered so please do not try to pull the perverbial wool over my eyes.

So which of those points do you disagree with?

100% premined coin?
Failure to burn all the converted XPY?
100% inflation?
Lack of transparency regarding all those BTC from the ICO? (we are talking about a large amount of money here)
That Doxing has been used heavily?
That gravity is horrifically late compared to the claims and still not out?

For an outsider this looks and smells like so many projects that came out of GAW and its predecessors its not funny.  If team ION wanted to distance itself from GAW they shouldnt have followed its playbook.

[RoomBot]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Crumbs!!!

Krumbz

Krumblez

Ion_Krumbz

You are pathetic, plz go away.

[krumblez]

Who is the fucking moron who added ION to the title - Suchmoon? That is a very narrow minded and disrespectful move - especially after the positive words I have heard about you in the past. ION is about as far away from that cunt Ganza as you can get, do you not even begin to see that the whole idea of the IONOMY is to give ppl some value back? Team ION have not robbed people, pumped the coins and gained from others. GANZA robbed terminal ill ppl (Trixer) and did not give a fuck when he died. Ganza robbed ppl who are now homeless. I actually have respect for some of you repeat posters here but it is shit like that which makes some of you look like complete fucking morons in shitting up a project just for you own backward merits?

Crumbs!!!

Krumbz

Krumblez

Ion_Krumbz

You are pathetic, plz go away.

I shall do as you ask as have much better things to do, thank you. 

[RoomBot]

Let's see how long he can stay away,  LMAO   

#ION_Crumbs

[o0o0]

Soom, gotta be ganza

It's a piss take on the SOON almost Ganzaeque trademark, almost a self-softening blow to alleviate the GAW pain...

no offense but didnt everyone on payointalk attack naysayers around paycoin in this thread the same way you did now? i believe you had some words here or paycointalk about naysayers. they were right though so shouldnt you give some thought to the facts?

you might have seen the game but the transparency is atrocious. or do you think they are transparent? stop getting aggitated by the people read and filter the content. they is a lot of red flags and bad transparency and if you cant see and agree with that then its ion thats pulling the wool over your eyes.

as to ion didnt take money yes they did in the ico. someone that cares on the coin and believes the group would go back and ask their team to start publishing addresses etc. its not hard and it makes it really easy to squash forever those questions. why do you all keep fighting so hard against posting a list of addresses?