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5741  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: July 31, 2017, 07:32:31 AM
I think yes , Because Here not only with the searching data but also I am seeing in many groups where people are posting only about the referral sites and apps and surveys to make a small penny of money .
So here we can see the clearly that what are the conditions we are facing in the current time to make money .
Here I myself in the starting was mad to make money because I was thinking that there is nothing above the money .But after decent earnings I comes to know that money is not made to make our life full of tensions but it is made to live the life perfectly without taking much tension .
So here for the bulk earners with less hard work there are many things which are above of the money and they are not making hard work only for money .
So not every people are same and thinking the same thing about a particular thing .

That's exactly the issue, that everybody is going towards the same direction when it comes to money and its someone who have made enough money that's will tell you "money is not everything" but my answer to that is "let me make as much as you have made, and I will also say the same thing" the more you grow, the more money you will need to meet more expenses that's the way it has been designed and there is nothing anyone can really do about it.

Consider two sides of the story: For the rich, they might think that money is not above everything since they already have the means of spending and buying things but for the poor, they might see money as a solution to their problem, which is being poor. The perspective on money differs from citizens of each class since they see this as a priority and an opportunity.

Another thing, I just don't understand on how people perceive "God" as the solution to their problems. I mean c'mon, if you don't work hard and you pray to God for you to succeed, do you think that the result that you are expecting will come true? Even if people have different religions and praise different Gods, and even if some people do not believe in religion, for as long as they do good in the world then I don't see a problem there.
5742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are holding Bitcoin? on: July 30, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
They holding their bitcoin because their waiting for the price to go higher than the current price. Its like gambling. they believe bitcoin is going higher than expected. Beacause every time bitcoin drops the bitcoin goes up times two.
We all wait to sell it when bitcoin prices increase. According to the trend that bitcoin prices always increase, so doing bitcoin holding in my opinion is very profitable.

The price of bitcoin is very volatile and if you are going to check the charts, last January 2017 the price of bitcoins were only ~$1000 compared today, which is around ~$1400. The price also might drop due to the fork happening this August 1 and this may result to a decrease in its price. I suggest that people should invest when the price decreases because it is always guaranteed that it will skyrocket again once people choose btc to bcc.
5743  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to win free Bitcoins in a short time ??? on: July 30, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
Hello to you.
   What are the best sites to win free Bitcoins in less than 60 minutes of time ??
I already know https://freebitco.in/ but to win Satoshi, you have to wait every hour (1 hour) of time. It is too long.
Are there other serious sites that give Bitcoins in less than 60 minutes ??

Thanks in advance for giving me these sites there.

I just don't understand on why some people believe that they can get everything without putting a little effort. The only way that I know that earns bitcoin fast is through gambling but it is very risky and you also need capital for it. The method that I use in earning bitcoin is through joining various campaign signatures but the pay is every week. It may not be fast but it is reliable compared to other methods. Also, the btc that you earn is directly proportional to your rank which is why, most of the people join these campaign signatures.
5744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: July 30, 2017, 02:34:53 AM
I have met a lot of people who habitually continued to play, even though most time they lost. Hence, they don't gamble because it "benefits them by winning" and there must be other reasons why they gamble.

The other only reason what I can think of is they are gambling for fun. Certified gamblers will gamble for fun and even it will take a lot of time before they win, still they love gambling and they have passion for it. But a very popular reason that people just gamble out for profit and very rare real people that says and just gamble for fun.

Who ever addicted to these games don't want to work hard to earn money instead they all want easy and fast money without any hard work. But they forget that these games are designed to give us only fun but not money. There are no real benefits from gambling if you play for money but if you play for fun then you will enjoy your free time.

Two things and two types of gamblers are doing this, first the employed ones that really don't know what to do with their money and just looking for pleasures. And the other one is those gamblers that are depending their lives with gambling which is a very wrong decision and it's not that worth to do it so.
Indeed, depending upon gambling for you daily lives is definitely wrong. Gambling is not the way for us to sustain our finance because there's no benefit we could get from it unless you were the owner. Yet, there are many ways to entertain ourselves hence my suggestion is to keep away from it inorder to avoid lose.

Some people gamble because of entertainment and others do it also because they think they can profit in the long run. Either way both are wrong because once you get addicted to it, you unconsciously bet more than you should have and this results to people being bankrupt. People say that gamble does not benefit you in any other way but I disagree. Gambling may be wrong but the benefit rises from the learning experience WHEN you quit gambling. That is the time when you realize that you have become matured enough to set your priorities straight instead of wasting money.
5745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: July 29, 2017, 12:33:25 PM
Giving up gambling is not easy at all especially if you do it everyday and if you lose a lot of money on it. They keep coming back and hope that they can bring back the money they lose. This lead to addiction. But if you take  seriously to give up gambling, the only way to start is in yourself Try to focus your mind in different activities and better to do it with your friends. I've been try it and it's effective but it still depend on the gambler also.

There were times that you'll be alone and you'll think all the good times you've got in gambling. And you will realize that it's not a bad idea if you'll look for some other source of living. When gambling is giving you some good result, I know everyone will stay but when it only gives you an headache, you need to admit that it's not giving you good result.
You need to accept if you it will give you headache because not all the time you will be winning in gambling.
That's why it's called gambling because we are fighting for our prediction which has no guarantee, in the end if we fail to understand
that casinos has the advantage then for sure we will be losers and it's hard if we keep fighting in a losing battle.

Casino's will always win and this is gambling, a real business a big industry where everyone is likely hypnotized by the games, sounds, chance of winning and excitement that it gives to the gamblers. Just remember that when you are not already happy with what you do whether it is with gambling or not, just stay away and quit.

Exactly. Any business' main purpose is only for profit and nothing else. With regards with the addiction to gambling, it is like being addicted to cigarettes and it became almost a part of your routine now. It might be harder for someone to completely stop their vices since it takes a lot of time and the individual must be willing to change. But with the right mindset, I believe that it is not impossible to change their ways since I know a lot of people who changed their ways in a similar manner.
5746  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your way of spreading Bitcoin knowledge? on: July 29, 2017, 05:35:02 AM
I share bitcoin to my relatives and friends by simply asking them if they know about it. Most of them didn't know bitcoin and I told them how money transaction becomes easy because its virtual currency and the result is immediate. You can also invest it because its value is increasing.

Like you I tell it to my relatives and friends, explained it, show some proof but at the end of the day, I got no reaponse, well maybe they're not too interested for this. Feel sorry for them and I hope one day there's someone who'll get to have some interest and Im willing to share all my knowledge.

I also do the exact same method. First, I explain what is bitcoin and its nature then i'm going to show proof that I am actually earning money. After that, some of my friends were really motivated by it but as time passes by they slowly began to show lack of interest on it. Bitcoin is not for everyone who thinks that they can earn cash without doing anything. It takes a lot of time and effort to bear fruit in your doings but it is all worth it in the end.
5747  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 28, 2017, 02:59:28 PM
Bitcoin can be the future of the paper money but I think it will need a few decades more because the bitcoin progress is not that fast for the world will be able to adopt and now 2017 several countries are accepting bitcoin so I think after few decades it will be more popular.
I think that the future of bitcoin will be bright because of the good bitcoin potential with many interested users and potential users and start adopting bitcoin but it will not necessarily replace paper money in the future. I think paper money can still survive will not even disappear even though everything will be all digital

So true. Many experts speculate that the future of paper money will be replaced by digital money. But they do not mention bitcoin is what they mean.I think that bitcoin is what they mean

Ya correct so .Many said paper currency is replaced only by digital currency. Since bitcoin is the King of digital currency, for bitcoin their are lot of chances to replace the same.At first it will replace the dollar and then it will replace the entire paper currency. Then the world over transactions will only made with bitcoin.

*slow clap*

Stop being delusional. Bitcoin is not even the king of digital currencies. The king of digital currencies is digital fiat. In some places, it's even the king of all currencies because they don't really use paper money in their place, only digital fiat. First, I want to ask why would bitcoin replace dollar first and not any other currencies? Is dollar already dying today? I don't think so. Dollar is still a strong currency.

You think bitcoin becoming mainstream is such a straightforward thing to happen, but it's not. No country will just allow their currency to be replaced by a foreign currency, let alone an unregulated with no government issue currency.

I think the biggest problem of bitcoin is its nature being available only online. More than half of the population in the world does not have access in the internet and the dream of replacing the dollar soon is near impossible at the moment. Before that happens, they must first address the issue of having internet access across the world and about the alleviation of poverty. Bitcoin being the universal money in all countries would potentially destroy the economies of developing countries due to being regulated by the developed countries.
5748  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: luck behind bitcoin earning on: July 28, 2017, 03:15:48 AM
Playing lottery tickets is not the best way to get rich. To become rich is to invest. This will bring a significant profit to you. Do you think so? This is my opinion and I think many people wil agree with me.

Your words are excellent I agree with your opinion how to get wealth by investing. Then your luck will be great to be rich

People also need to consider that the prices of bitcoin changes overtime. Last January 2017, the prices of bitcoins were around $1000~ and right now, it's around $2400+. The chances of someone winning the lottery is very slim compared to investing money. If you just invested your money way back, then right now you'll have more resources and money to invest to. Sometimes it's not all about luck, but your decision making when it comes to using your money on the right way.
5749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits from Gambling on: July 27, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
I've been gambling for almost 10 years now, I used to be an addict to poker and other card games but now I do gamble Occasionally. Normally, If others heard about gambling they'll probably be saying bad things about it *which is a fact*. Though, based from my own experiences. Gambling do benefits me in a way, especially Mentally and Emotionally. Mentally, As a teenager who started to gamble at the age of 15. I don't care about losing, I don't value money. But as I grow, Gambling did really change my perspective towards money and decision making. I became more mature and I must say that I did enhance my strategic awareness. Emotionally, I must say that gambling did really control my temper. I don't why, but whenever I play poker my state of mind became so calm. Even after I lose or win I'm calm and happy. At the age of 19, I learn how to control myself. Mistakes are part of our life which really is good set back for a good comeback!.

How about you guys? What are the benefits you get from Gambling?

But, I highly suggest not to become addict to this industry.
i like your last sentences 
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But, I highly suggest not to become addict to this industry.
so far when i play gambling,maybe the benefits only when we won the game,earn profit and get more money than i started,but truly for a better life honestly i dont find any benefit,because if you addicted,you have no life.
Well that's true, based on my opinon there's no benefit you will get from gambling except from fun however, if you lose then it will make you frustrated. Even though you have a lot of luck still you will never win in gambling because they will just let you win in your first attemp and you will gradually lose.

That's what I always tell to my friends about the benefits of gambling. It's not the money that you win but the attitude you develop towards your experiences that makes you want to quit. Gambling cannot be and will not be profitable in the long term due to its nature, clinging only to risk. I know a lot of people who went bankrupt and got their lives destroyed due to being addicted to it. But once you make a decision to stop from gambling, then you will become mature and your perspective towards money will become valuable.
5750  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: July 27, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
You may never know, the price of bitcoins may go down just as any other currency, I believe without a doubt that people will start to sell their bitcoins then and they will do so hurriedly so that they dont even lose more money.
i think it is not such a good idea to hold bitcoin forever and to hold it. i think we should always use our bitcoin when we feel the need for that. i personally using bitcoin whenever i fell the need for that.

Exactly! I mean, everyone has their own reasons on why they earn bitcoin. Whether for paying bills or investing, when the need arises for one to pay something that is essential then he/she could convert their bitcoins to fiat. For me, the purpose of bitcoin is for my future investments and savings but if an emergency happens and my parents don't have any extra cash, then I'm more than willing to contribute using my bitcoin.

The idea behind people not converting their btc to fiat is due to the volatility of the price of bitcoins. Last January 2017, the price of bitcoins were around $1000+ and now, the price is beyond $2000. No one really knows the final price of bitcoin but one thing is for sure, the price increases overtime.
5751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another Good Reason to Own Some BTC on: July 27, 2017, 02:24:28 AM
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If you are traveling and lose your credit card, but in a country that has a reasonably active Bitcoin scene, you can sell some BTC to pay bills while "over there".

This may become an issue for us.  

Here is a case for having an online wallet, "travels anywhere".

You said that “Here is a case for having an online wallet, travels anywhere”. This is definitely the first thing I am thinking when I first read about this topic. This is the first thing that comes to my mind because I am the type of person that loves to travel. But of course it not that safe in online wallet compare to offline wallet. Another reason for me is that if I own btc I own a money. A money I called mine because I earned by doing bitcoin. It wiil be my investment, my saving as well. I can use it in emergencies and some of my needs.
well good point that you can bring your bitcoin when you are travelling the only negative side was if you are in the place where bitcoin is not yet been introduce, glad that here in my country we do have alternate ways as the carrier of our online wallet have this features that we can withdraw our btc
to our local fiat in many ways.

I'm also thankful that in my country, some retailers accept bitcoin as a payment and we have this website that lets you convert your bitcoin to fiat for emergency cash. But the real idea behind earning bitcoin is you just keep it until the price increases over time. Last January 2017, bitcoin prices are around $1000 and right now it's more than $2000. You just keep your bitcoin because I also believe that by the end of the year, it might reach $4000+. There is no reason for you to spend your bitcoin other than an emergency situation.
5752  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to make money with bitcoin in 2017? on: July 26, 2017, 06:08:29 PM
What is the best way to make money with bitcoin in 2017?

There are many factors to consider like the amount of capital you are willing to invest on or if you are just starting. In my opinion, joining campaign signatures is one of the best ways on earning bitcoin. But what hinders you from joining it is your rank and you need to follow certain qualifications posted by the campaign manager. If you are already part of a campaign signature, then hold all of your earnings and wait for the right to convert it to fiat. Bitcoin prices right now are very volatile and sensitive due to August 1 coming. Just hold all your bitcoins for now and wait.
5753  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to win Bitcoins with Signature Campaigns ??? on: July 26, 2017, 05:05:47 PM
Hello.
  I'm looking for effective ways to win Bitcoins. So I would like to know how to join Signature Campaigns ??
Help me understand the procedures and sites where you need to have Signature Campaigns to win Bitcoins.

Thank you for helping me understand how it works.

Signature campaigns work like you are advertising their product through your comments on various topics here in the forum. Some signature campaigns have certain qualifications in order for you to join them. The lowest rank that most of these campaigns accept is Jr. Member (which is your rank) and they pay you accordingly per week or per post. Now, the hard thing about these signature campaigns is that before you get accepted, they will check the history of your posts to know the quality of your comment in other topics. If you are going to put your shoes to their, of course you want to hire people who constructively replies to people since you are paying them. Try searching in the forum some guides and tips from other persons like you. I wish you all the best for your future endeavors.
5754  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: July 26, 2017, 12:20:07 PM
Easy to transfer anytime and anywhere with 24/7 availability transaction time.
I too prefer to have bitcoin instead of cash, because bitcoin is always touched in market with business through technology and can earn money, but a cash don’t so this. Bitcoin is a business not simply a currency. Through bitcoin you can earn easily without any hard work because bitcoin is an automatic investment.

I couldn't agree more. Bitcoin is like cash only better. But don't try to buy everything with it nowadays. Just exchange some BTC for fiat first and then buy things. If we will come to the point when transactions are cheap and fast, Bitcoin will go to the Moon from that point.

Bitcoin is like a cash that changes its value every now and then. I too prefer bitcoin since there are many ways on how to earn it and to use it. Another thing since bitcoins are decentralized, it cannot be controlled by the government like imposing tax or regulations. Though there may be transaction fees when you convert bitcoin to fiat, still bitcoin remains superior when it's compared to cash. One thing that puts bitcoin at a disadvantage is the investing of it due to many websites scamming it. But if there is improving the system, then bitcoin is truly better.
5755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] DIMCOIN The Future Of Equity on the Blockchain (FULL) on: July 25, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
Many people do not have the patience to wait for the funds. May really need to consider the acceleration of transfers to impatient people cherished their nerves.
Well look on the bright side people are getting impatient on the launch of DIMCOIN which means they are anticipating on the official launch of DIMCOIN in exchanges. One thing is for sure it means that the traders are looking forward to trade DIMCOIN. Now I don't know what price movement it will have but expect a big volume when it launch.

That is a good sign if people are getting impatient with the release. I mean, if they are so eager in waiting, then there would be a huge influx of investors or people who are willing on trying it out. I believe that DIMCOIN has the potential in dominating the world of cryptocurrencies but not that popular compared to bitcoin. The price maybe highly dependent on the price of bitcoin since investors use this as an investment.
5756  Economy / Economics / Re: Signature campaign as my job? on: July 24, 2017, 04:23:51 PM
Hey, I am 15 year old and wondering if i can have signature campaign as job, imo yes, because i completed 2 signature campaigns (mobilego and zrcoin) and i got 808 mobilegocoins which is worth about 800 euros, and 54 zrcoins which was worth about 50 euro. What do you think?

Sorry if my english is bad, It is not my language. Sometimes I might mean things other than I wrote


Edit 1: I mean this as a job till I am older and have a full time job, if I have a fulltime job, I will keep this as a side job (if it is still possible)

Sure it can be your job but use it only as a sideline, and not as a main job. You are only 15 years old, education is far more superior in the world compared to money in any means. You can always attend school while also doing your obligations in your campaign signature at the same time. I really do suggest that you must never neglect your education since that is something that people cannot take away from you. Also, it will benefit you in the long run with the knowledge that you will get.

[EDIT] That's what most people do here in fact, using campaign signature as a sideline for extra income. Go for it dude, you have a long future ahead of you.
5757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in College??? on: July 24, 2017, 02:51:22 PM
Bitcoin as a course or any related currency on web.
In my country we have multiple courses in computer especially programing and web developments. My course is also information technology, but i've never heard or learn about online currency as bitcoin. In present, and future studies is there any chances for inserting about it in education. In your country is it available?
It would be better for any country to adopt bitcoin in educating new generations. Instead of playing games and wasting money in surfing xxx sites.
Bitcoin has not even been legalized still in our country.I heard that just now,colleges in some european countries have started to add bitcoin as a subject in their studies.Its a new technology which has created a revolution in the world economy.We may expect soon bitcoin to be added as an important lesson in universities all over the world.
Same here in my country, still bitcoin is not legalize and it is not well-known yet. For me it is good if bitcoin will be included in academics especially on economy. Because I believe that if everyone of us learned about bitcoin and used it in our everday life it might have positive effect on our country. Besides, it is much better for us to access the bitcoin rather than to visit porn sites that corrupt our mind.

Even if there is a subject about crypto-currencies, that will open the minds of the youth about these things and that may be one of the key factors for international development. But that is not possible without the government's intervention and that is why if bitcoin were to be legalize in a country, I think that its price will decrease due to the impose of tax regulations by the government. But if it helps in alleviating the poverty by teaching the young generation the value of money and investing, then why not?
5758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: July 24, 2017, 06:49:24 AM
Well, gambling helps me very much. It helps me to easily throw all my money, i can use my money buying stress thank to gambing, and so on!

You should add kidding on the side. It's always a disaster if you are going to make this much stress coming from gambling. You need to understand that if you will be careless in gambling everything bad is about to happen. I would suggest that you have to make that much in order for you to have some delight as you gamble, it helps me anyway when I'm desperate in need of money, sometimes.
The only thing that can make gambling, This is not inherently, this is when gambling Fructis has some strategies until the evening and has learned to get at least some profit. This is the only time that a gamble in a person's life can give. But there are very few such opportunities in the percentage ratio.

Few opportunities are given in gambling and it's up to you on how you are going to take those opportunities in your life. It's a do or die, we know gambling is a very risky thing and just don't make it as a source of income so that you won't be depending on this. It's a choice that when you have no other source of money desperately, gambling can help you.

The way that gambling helped my friends is the after effects of it and the learning lessons that they realized. Gambling cannot help you with your life since it involves risks a huge amount of risk to deal with. Plus, getting addicted to it worsens your life. Like what i stated, my friends used to gamble all the time their resources until one night, they almost lost everything. When they promised that they would not gamble again, their lives got better. The learning lesson from your past experience in gambling can help you, but it depends on whether you can break your addiction or not.
5759  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: July 23, 2017, 09:08:03 PM
yes we need to work
 
this is an extra income for us ..

just to earn more
Not so fast. If you've invested a lot in Bitcoin and it gave you a large profit (1 million USD or more) you can easily quit your job. Jobs are only a way to make money and become rich if possible. If you already have that why work at all?

It really depends on the capital that the person invested into bitcoin. Quitting your job and focusing in bitcoin may be a good idea but if you are just starting out and you are only about to build your capital, then it might be the wrong choice. Investing into bitcoin is a series of process and it requires thorough research and a huge amount risk, that's why investing all of your money here always has the potential of losing it all. But in my opinion, I believe that we can have the best of both words by making bitcoin as a sideline for extra income.
5760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IS THERE A CHANCE THAT BTC WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT? on: July 23, 2017, 10:10:58 AM
Hi

how about if all currencies will be known worldwide or if it will be acknowledged in all countries even coming to become the currencies of the world, what will happen to the value of each currencies, or better yet what will be the impact. Are banks will be their first enemy?
Gracias!

Since, BTC is being popular in all countries it could either be a future cryptocurrency or still online technology that government dont care about this. Banks are existing before while BTC is not. I don't have much idea about those things before they exist. The only thing I know is that banks are there to serve people in a long transaction but they don't compete. They are just accepting money like our wallet.

Well, the government cannot be controlled by the government due to it being decentralized. But the only way that they can "CONTROL" it is by implementing laws regarding the regulation of it. The government can also impose tax whenever there is a transaction from converting it to fiat but they cannot fully control it. I disagree with you saying that the government does not care about bitcoin. Since this holds a large amount of conversion value, every country will exercise all the means to garner profit from it.
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