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581  Local / Skandinavisk / Re: Radioprogram om mining, Radio24syv on: April 23, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
+1 Vildt fedt at de danske medier endelig får øje på bitcoin!

hvorfor søger i kun miner? syntes at mange medier har et rimelig forvrædet billede af bitcoin, da de fokuseret alt for meget på minere. dette giver en forkert opfattelse på linje med "print dine egne penge!!!".
582  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 22, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Funny and distressing thread at the same time.
Definitely statism supporters are at the same mental level than the "usual" religious fanatics, maybe worse. For sure more dangerous.


P.S. a good read for those with a bit o brain left  http://www.polyarchy.org/manifesto/english/introduction.html
I assume you mean me? Can I ask you where you got your education to write that? How did you get to work today? via private roads I assume. Without taxation there would be no state, without the state your life would be a struggle to survive.
+1

give up dude, libertards are just as other fanatics narrow-minded and impossible to discuss with.
583  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 22, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
about Denmark: civil rights was introduced gradually from 1788 to 1800 for the farmer population, the non land owners. From the age of 4 until the age of 40 you was obliged to live and work in the shire they were born in as the property of the local count!

The end of monarchy as the only political power happend in 1841 as the king, Frederik the 7'th, didn't care much about politics and the elitist citizen group demanded that he stepped down. A rally was organized and when they reached the royal castle (the current parliament), Frederik the 7'th responded by the famous words: "I'm happy to announce that your current demands have already been met and the royal ministry have already been dissolved".

I guess he was scared by what was happening around Europe. Denmark had the whimpist "revolution" by far. following this, power was divided between the 152 members of the first constitutional assembly. The division in social classes was apparent in selecting the domains of governmental institutions.

The current ruling party today "Socialdemokraterne" originated in 1871 as a socialist union movement fighting police in the streets. However today, Denmark living on the mercy of strict monetary policies, together with the rest of Europe and the fact that budgets are always agreed upon with the opposition, means that the notion of Denmark as a "socialist country" is nothing but a sour insult to the lefties around here!

Because of that, Socialdemokraterne today have a historical low public support, only around 15% as of yesterday. The same as in 1898.
yeah, the socialdemokraterne are not very popular right now, as they does not do as promised and they are having what is considered by some to be right-wing policy.
584  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 22, 2013, 01:47:01 PM
How do you think governments are formed? Honestly, serious question.
i don't understand your question... a new government is formed every 4 years, is this what you area asking about?

we vote at the election every 4 years? and the people who got our votes, then they elect who to be ministers.

its called indirect democracy.


or do you ask how the state of denmark was formed?
585  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Relationship between transaction confirmations and miners on: April 22, 2013, 07:48:34 AM
kokjo, thank you for the fucking links Wink I did read those, but I am a slow learner i.e., a NEWBIE!
so what you are basicly saying is: im stupid!!!

i take 0.25 btc/hour to teach you about bitcoin if you like.
586  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 08:46:51 PM
Government is a construct of a society seeking to organise itself to be more efficient.

basically I agree with what you wrote except for that line.

Efficiency has nothing to do with founding gov'ts.  Gov'ts are the least efficient allocators of resources known to man.

Many/most gov'ts were founded by gangs of thieves who conquered and subjected others in order to exploit them.  Some/few were founded by people to protect the people from gov'ts of the first order, but none remain of that persuasion to my knowledge.  Some have tried to dress themselves as if the people/society were a priority, but the laws, constitutions, and actions when observed in action do not support that stance.
you really have a fucked up sense of history.

@ Kokjo

How do you think governments are formed? Honestly, serious question.
the state of denmark became a democracy, to ensure the civil rights of the citizens, and to limit the kings power.
587  Economy / Economics / does this look good? on: April 21, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20paypal&cmpt=q
588  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 08:22:56 PM
Government is a construct of a society seeking to organise itself to be more efficient.

basically I agree with what you wrote except for that line.

Efficiency has nothing to do with founding gov'ts.  Gov'ts are the least efficient allocators of resources known to man.

Many/most gov'ts were founded by gangs of thieves who conquered and subjected others in order to exploit them.  Some/few were founded by people to protect the people from gov'ts of the first order, but none remain of that persuasion to my knowledge.  Some have tried to dress themselves as if the people/society were a priority, but the laws, constitutions, and actions when observed in action do not support that stance.
you really have a fucked up sense of history.
589  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
Government has as its highest priority the survival of government.
no. you are assuming that the government is a living being, that only have its own survival in mind. it is not.
590  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 08:13:06 PM
inheritance of wealth does not go well with your people are born equal. you can only have one of the options.

That is a gross distortion.

Born equal has nothing to do with family, gender, health, wealth or anything other than civil rights.  In other words, there is no nobility or other political privilege or punishment by right of birth.

If anything, being born poor is now currently breaking the "born equal" promise because the state provides more for those at the expense of those whose families pay their own way.

define "Born equal" then, and don't just put a reference to civil rights.

Civil rights are the rights to which born equal applies. That was and is the only context.
and what you did was to just reference civil rights...
591  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
i disagree with this... the government is not despotic, when it tries to redistribute wealth.
If you want to steal from me, have the guts to do it yourself instead of hiding behind skirts of government.

Redistribution of wealth is 100% the province of despots.  Only the idiotic would think that a gov't capable of redistributing wealth will continue to do so in their favor.
the governement behave in the society's favor.

im currently paid by the state to take my education. and when im done with my education i will happily pay taxes, and i will not claim that the government steals from me.
592  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
inheritance of wealth does not go well with your people are born equal. you can only have one of the options.

That is a gross distortion.

Born equal has nothing to do with family, gender, health, wealth or anything other than civil rights.  In other words, there is no nobility or other political privilege or punishment by right of birth.

If anything, being born poor is now currently breaking the "born equal" promise because the state provides more for those at the expense of those whose families pay their own way.

define "Born equal" then, and don't just put a reference to civil rights.

who creates wars then?
Bankers. All wars are banker wars.
does not banks pay for wars?
593  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:52:53 PM
Government should be our employee, not our employer.
correct, and i would like my government to take taxes of my payments.



who creates wars then?

also the people? or is it just an evil government creation? 
594  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:42:42 PM
you are wrong. public roads in Denmark are funded by the danish government.

And who funds the Danish government?
people who pay TAXES!
595  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
"Wealth redistribution" is just another way of saying "confiscation". Robbery is robbery, no matter if a person or a State is doing it.
you entered an agreement with the government when you where born, just as you did to your family.
LOL. You really believe this shit??? Shocked
LOL, you really believe otherwise??? Shocked
596  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
roads was made of mud where i live now, if it had not been for the government. before a democratic government was created in Denmark, there was only roads and streets in the big cities.
Government may have been the tool used to facilitate the roads, but credit for the road building goes to society, not government.
you are wrong. public roads in Denmark are funded by the danish government.
597  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:33:24 PM
we created and maintained this road, and you are now abusing it.

"We" is you and I: society. We built the roads. Society precedes government. Government is a scam designed to make you think you need them, as with any abusive relationship.

I don't expect perfect roads from society but I do expect a little civility. Perhaps you could start by learning some.
take all the sweet stuff, and leave all the sour?

roads was made of mud where i live now, if it had not been for the government. before a democratic government was created in Denmark, there was only roads and streets in the big cities.
598  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
you are expecting street without holes.

As I don't recall saying this, I can only assume this is another flaw in your logic.
we created and maintained this road, and you are now abusing it.
599  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: April 21, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
you should not walk on the streets and road that we have paid for.
I pay taxes just like everyone else when I buy things like fuel and other taxed essentials.

I said I'm not taking anything from the State. Surely that makes me a good citizen since I'm not looking for a return?
you are expecting street without holes.
600  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: List of court cases, complaints, regulatory actions, etc. on: April 21, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
+1 this is nice Smiley keep up the good work!
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