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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
There seems to be a lot of confusion about this.

Hash power (hashes per  second) does not change the block reward.

The difficulty setting changes the block reward.

Last I heard, 2 coins per block is expected when/if the difficulty hits 24.
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So since elacoin fell through?????? on: May 14, 2013, 07:15:21 PM
Mark you missed all the fun.

After Hazard offere to compile a pre-release binary, he shit himself when he (supposedly) saw someone mining a 1300 block chain.

The screens he posted show 0 connections, whether hazard mined them or not is up for question.

What Hazard did then proceed to do was release the launch code a few hours before launch, which he had gotten by claiming he would help the OP to compile a windows binary for the release.

This is all around pages 20 - 24 of the orig thread hazard is quite proud of it.

After Hazard kicked out the release code, at least one other person started mining it publicly, his chain was at 600+ blocks when Milkshake showed up.

In the meantime, Hazard started his hazardcoin thread, and started talking mad trash about milkshake.

So anyways, Milkshake says he changed the checksum or whatever and started on a new genesis block.  When he hit the block he pushed to git and immediately announced the release.  It seemed more clumsy than malicious, but in the midst of the drama, he rushed it out.

Within a few minutes of launch a couple of forum members "helped out" by posting elacoind binaries.

The first person to distribute a running binary package (dlls and all) for windows was powerf1st (hope i got that right). There was for sure 1, and maybe 2, compiled elacoind floating around with no DLLs before that.

So someone started a thread about that package and we start encouraging new people to use it, and I went to bed. I'd have to go browse the thread but it may not have been milkshake who added checkpoints to the binary...

Basically Hazard totally fucked the OP and the launch, and keeps trying to act like a hero about it. And he keeps trying to get some feels for hazardcoin so he can say "people wanted it" when he releases it.

When the OP woke up, or showed up, or whatever he scrambled to try and save the launch and wound up making things worse.

Also let's talk about this:  Hazard claims he couldn't have POSSIBLY mined 1300 blocks because of the 2.5 second HARD LIMIT on new blocks. what block chain has ever refused new blocks for 2.5 seconds? This guy is pathetic. absolutely untrustworthy, a scammer and a liar. Considering his behavior before and after, it doesn't matter if he did the mining or not.  He offered to help and then completely sabotaged the release.

A lot of people seem to think this coin reward is based on hash power. Block reward should move to 2 coins per block when diff hits 24.  This is going to take a couple of days even if the network keeps growing.  If people like the adjustment of the coin, there's plenty of time for this to get straightened out.  

I just got up is hazardcoin launched yet?

There will have to be an elacoin block explorer before we can sort out if someone snuck in one of the premined chains  by floating a "bad" windows binary.

583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 11:05:13 AM
ok well we've come this far is anyone transacting?

Haven't got a coin yet I'd love to se some balance on this questionable daemon/blockchain/wallet I'm mining.

somebody hit me with a ela-satoshi or 10k real quick?

I put an address in my sig and crossed my fingers ...
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 10:56:35 AM
Are you sure they are two different blockchains? Or maybe you just haven't downloaded enough blocks..

Definitely 2 completely different chains. I had 10 confirmed blocks + 2 immature blocks beforehand. After using the checkpoints and redownloading the blockchain I had 0.

At the time I write this getinfo reports the block number to be 8247.

I think I'm with you (8479 now) but we need someone that can set up an ABE or block explorer to see if we have 1600 (or whatever) blocks mined by the same person at the start of the chain now.

Did you pull milkshake's latest git and all when you set the checkpoints?  If you did I'm staying on this chain and going to bed.

Sorry I don't have the skills for it or I would be checking this myself, too.

edit: I guess it would just be enough to see the phrase in the first block, right?
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 10:39:39 AM
the getinfo command tells you how many blocks you have and some other stuff

getpeerinfo tells you how many blocks your peers have, though i have more than any in that list now, I'm not sure how accurate it is

getnetworkhashps tells you there's almost 13mh/s on this network.


you can type "elacoin help" for a list of commands and then type "elacoin (command) help) for details on most of them.

You're never 100% sure you've got every block out there.  The QT is just more reassuring about it.


thanks, i know these commands (are like all other forks of bitcoin..)
but i wasn't sure about the info what the latest block is.
so i do a getpeerinfo | grep startingheigh
and look for the highest number and hope that this peer is the highest?

that's what I did
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
the getinfo command tells you how many blocks you have and some other stuff

getpeerinfo tells you how many blocks your peers have, though i have more than any in that list now, I'm not sure how accurate it is

getnetworkhashps tells you there's almost 13mh/s on this network.


you can type "elacoin help" for a list of commands and then type "elacoin (command) help) for details on most of them.

You're never 100% sure you've got every block out there.  The QT is just more reassuring about it.
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 10:02:52 AM
200th post.  Cool

thanks for the share ++++++ would quote again!

5276 blocks almost there.......
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 09:46:15 AM
Can you link to the working one you used?


it was posted somewhere between page 51 and 62, i think.


Nah, just kidding, luckily it was in my history
https://apps.memopal.com/d/index.php?H3GPKRT7
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
ok well I took the second windows executable that came out (the one with the dlls in the zip) and deleted that peers.dat .

restarted and FINALLY starting to synch in winXP

    {
        "addr" : "199.204.38.220:9223",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1368524150,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524202,
        "conntime" : 1368523963,
        "version" : 60001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : 5821,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "96.126.118.229:9223",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1368524105,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524150,
        "conntime" : 1368523963,
        "version" : 60001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : 5821,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "82.173.108.213:9223",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1368524105,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524190,
        "conntime" : 1368523965,
        "version" : 60001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : 737,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "172.5.141.163:9223",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1368524105,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524202,
        "conntime" : 1368524005,
        "version" : 60001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : 5852,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "99.246.40.37:9223",
        "services" : "00000001",
        "lastsend" : 1368524105,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524202,
        "conntime" : 1368524032,
        "version" : 60001,
        "subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : 5870,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "67.0.134.31:9223",
        "services" : "00000000",
        "lastsend" : 1368524142,
        "lastrecv" : 1368524202,
        "conntime" : 1368524142,
        "version" : 0,
        "subver" : "",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : -1,
        "banscore" : 0
    },
    {
        "addr" : "95.48.157.225:9223",
        "services" : "00000000",
        "lastsend" : 1368524201,
        "lastrecv" : 0,
        "conntime" : 1368524201,
        "version" : 0,
        "subver" : "",
        "inbound" : false,
        "releasetime" : 0,
        "startingheight" : -1,
        "banscore" : 0
    }
]

C:\miner\elacoin>elacoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 60300,
    "protocolversion" : 60001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 726,
    "connections" : 7,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 0.00024414,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1368520359,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.00010000,
    "errors" : ""
}
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
And how do we know its synced ? i only get a blinking dot...

Blockchain is not so large yet, so wait a couple of minutes.

is there a command to see this ?

when the daemon is running, open another command prompt.

browse to the directory with elacoind that's already running, and type "elacoind help" .

This will give you the list of console commands including "getinfo".

you don't want to type "elacoind -help" as that will show you the help for executing the daemon, which you already did in another cmd prompt.
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elacoin relaunched on: May 14, 2013, 07:56:39 AM
git pull

what OS does this build on?  I'm noob enough it's faster to load another linux than sort out this issue on ubuntu13 with no hints

Should the info in the instructions (dependencies) be enough, or what?
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elacoin relaunched on: May 14, 2013, 07:52:11 AM
what to do about this boost problem in ubuntu?
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FREE PWC] PowerCoin Explosion. FEEL THE POWER! on: May 14, 2013, 07:49:04 AM
ok

p72ttirie2dLRG1FH7bP16iZTxhKYoXANy
594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:42:18 AM
If it was not Hazard, then it was  dentldir. I haven't said his name because I believe he was innocent until now, but Hazard is still denying it and I think it may have being the other guy I gave the source to.

Nope.  Wasn't me.  I didn't even see that you sent me the final source until 5 minutes before it was supposed to launch.  I just now got it to compile after plowing through a rather verbose boost error that was actually the same pthread_t error I PMed you about on the public git source.  However, the Windows client crashes after running for about 5 minutes.  Not ready for launch.

That being said, the linux client gets connections and doesn't download blocks.

However, the Windows client reported almost 137MH/s on the first run when I did getmininginfo.

Currently:
{
"blocks" : 5287,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00167116,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 2012400,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Whoever is mining this thing is still going strong.



how many coinds has it generated in 5k blocks of 2 Mh?
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: elacoin biggest fail coin so far? on: May 14, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
Completely sabotaged to make way for Hazardcoin, obviously.
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:35:20 AM
We're launching 30 minutes behind schedule, sorry, but ETA 5 mins

With windows or without?

If without, launch it back another 30 minutes.. at least.


The last person who said they would compile a windows binary "pre-released" the coin and the genesis block, leading to this delay.

People will be rushing to get windows binaries out in a couple minutes...

also I think there's not supposed to be a coin-splosion on this one.  It has 0 difficulty, but difficulty-proportionate block rewards.

597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing In 1 Day | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 03:34:32 AM

Ha ha, say hello to the 'marketing team' alt. email.



As you wish.

There's some pretty nasty people around here.  I don't care about the coin, or the people involved very much at all.

But that was a dirtbag maneuver. Just calling it how I see it.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing In 1 Day | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
Oh why not. Have fun.

http://ca3.cc/elacoin.zip

Gee thanks for ruining this launch...
Wasn't planning on it until I saw the premined 1360 block chain. I just exposed it for what it is Wink

I'll also take this opportunity to say that someone who can't even compile their own client really has no business releasing their own coin.

How do you even run Hazard's file?
You compile it... Its a C++ program so use g++ or Visual Studios on windows.
Bit more in depth than that. Some of the provided files were messed up, so I had to frankenstein it together with another litecoin fork to get a working compile. For those brave enough to try...

There's nothing wrong with having a test pre-launch. There's no evidence that this chain would have existed at release.

You've pretty much branded yourself a total douchebag, though.

Proooobably the last time you participate in pre-launch activities for anything.

The pictures, the accusations, whatever just another hothead.

But dumping what you believe to be his release code hours before the release?

That's really the cherry on top.
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PWC / LTC Exchange! on: May 14, 2013, 03:20:51 AM
I mined a block.  -> A <- block.



What can I get for 40 PWC?
600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The economic impact of too many physical bitcoins on: May 13, 2013, 11:02:40 PM
Funny you mention this.  I'm actually working on a large project to this effect.  Details to come, but it uses a new unit of account for 0.001BTC, as you suggest.

Nice. We need vendors to use denominations of 0.001 BTC as the standard.

Stock split is not the correct term to use there.

I know, which is why I put quotation marks around it. It's similar to a stock split, and I can't think of a better term to describe it.

inflation
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