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61  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you stop calling Bitcoin an investment? on: August 13, 2018, 02:46:56 AM
Can you stop calling Bitcoin an investment?

This damages the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin was not created to become an investment. Before Bitcoin, there were some digital currencies years back, the goal was always to be able to create a (digital) currency free from central banks and governments.
Cypherpunks and other anarcho-capitalists are at the origin of this idea, perhaps 20 or 30 years ago. None were intended to make an investment to be rich quickly.
You won't find in the white paper "investing" mentioned, you won't find any post from Satoshi mentioning it

Considering Bitcoin as an investment, this is the reason why we have more and more regulations, G20 summits and others craps, KYC, etc...
The word "Crypto-assets" didn't exist before, why did they create it? Because you even consider it an investment, then why shouldn't they?
Bitcoin could be a lot more accepted and used by now. Why should a merchant agree to be paid in Bitcoin? He wants money, not a piece of your investment.

You're not even investing, you are just gambling with money.
Go to the altcoins board, you will surely find plenty of ICOs where you can say you invested in. I have something for you, ICOs used to raise money are no different than "Crowdfunding". If you want to invest then there are a lot of Crowdfunding websites where you can invest in real startups with fewer risks, (you won't find any project using photos from Pixabay...)

Why don't we see cryptographers anymore? Guess the reasons
it was originally used as a currency since it is in the form of technology, we cannot avoid changes and developments.Since technology always changes, so is cryptocurrency. Bitcoin was primarily used as a currency but now, it is used in many other things.
If you put your money and wants it to grow, thats already a investment. Here in bitcoin we do the same thing, we want our money to grow, we will hold it and wait for the righ time to sell it, we want to gain profit, thats already a invesment. I cant stop calling bitcoin as a investment because i know its a kind of investment.
62  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't worry, Bitcoin will be fine. on: August 13, 2018, 02:36:02 AM
why does everyone start to panicking when they see the price of Bitcoin dropping so much, in my opinion it is natural that the price of Bitcoin falls because Bitcoin has experienced the same thing as now, so I suggest not to be afraid and panic.

we will see from this graphic :
1. On April 29, 2013 the price of Bitcoin was only $ 135.30


2. and on November 30, 2013 the price of Bitcoin increase high at the price of $ 1,149.14


3. then on January 2, 2014 the price of Bitcoin decreased at a price of $ 773.40 and on December 31, 2016 the price of Bitcoin began to increase again


4. and the price of Bitcoin began to rise high at the price of $ 19,783.30 on the 17th of December 2017


and as we know, now the price of Bitcoin at $ 6,948.46 and this is indeed down very far compared to prices on December 17, 2017, but it has already happened in 2014 where the price of Bitcoin dropped very far and it continues until 2016 and in 2017 finally Bitcoin prices start to increase again (it takes around 3 years to make Bitcoin prices rise). so from that, I'm sure the price of Bitcoin will increase again even though the time needed is not short.

thank you for giving a little positive encouragement, honestly I'm very afraid that bitcoin really fell.
this will not only be a nightmare for me but also everyone who holds bitcoin. I hope bitcoin will never lose the trust of everyone.
Condition of bitcoin right now is getting worse and worse everyday so how would say that bitcoin will be fine? We see the price continuesly dropping and everyone, some investors do the panic selling because they are afraid that they can lose their money anytime. But im still hoping the bitcoin will recover because i already lost big amount of money.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ✅✅✅[BOUNTY]【ANN] $300K GCOX FIRST DECENTRALIZED ⭐CELEBRITY⭐ TOKEN EXCHANGE✅✅✅ on: August 09, 2018, 11:52:04 AM
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64  Economy / Economics / Re: Why spend time in bitcoins? on: August 09, 2018, 11:22:52 AM
We all experience being financially challenged and we cannot deny that money makes us revolve around it. When we find ways to alleviate our financial suffering, we stand our ground and spend so much effort just to see the result and of course, benefit from it. Do you think that spending time and effort to gain bitcoins is a rational idea? Do you think that you could've been wasting your time? Let me know about your thoughts.


Bitcoin is worth our time and effort because I believe that it could give back all our effort through the profit that it provides us. Bitcoin is the fastest and easiest way for us to gain and earn a good profit these days so why not spend much time with it if we could gain enough through it.
Honestly, i keep spend time in bitcoin in one only reason, because bitcoin makes me money, lets be realistic here. But I only spend for about, 2-3 hours i think? I just complete the weekly task here in bitcoin forum and if i have more time, i read some articles about cryptocurrency to gain more knowledge and learn skills to improve being a investor.
65  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook bans ads for cryptocurrencies on: August 09, 2018, 11:01:56 AM
Yes, so far there is a major disadvantage to electronic money, now the number of facebook users is quite high. So if electronic money is banned on it then it is a disadvantage, electronic money difficult to access to investors.

Facebook did not want to become the source of cryptocurrency advertisement because some of the ico's are just scam and that is the reason why other social media's are also banning cryptocurrency ads.
Facebook is the most famous and widely used social media app in the world, banning ads related to cryptocurrency isnot a good idea for them. They will lose big amout of money if theyd do that. Because today crypto currency is very famous and facebook is including in bitcoin forum, maybe just think again facebook
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Current cryptocurrency market situation on: August 09, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
What is your opinion on the current market situation?  2018 has not been our year. It's been quite rough for cryptocurrency prices, with the most recent slump being from June 10, the market continues to fluctuate and change. But things seem to be looking up and bitcoin has reached its peak this summer, topping $8,000.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/what-is-going-on-with-the-crypto-markets-experts-share-opinions
I feel the current market position as a tiger which is preparing to a jump, he is sitting down and keeping all the muscles in tensed, just waiting for a great and rapid jump, so are we with our cryptocurrency market condition.
In my own opinion the market situation is getting worst so far, the price of bitcoin is continuesly dropping and thats not a good sign for bitcoin community and for us investors. Maybe for now we stick to the some theories that it will recover in the next few months, still hoping that it will gonna happen
67  Economy / Economics / Re: Is NOW the best time to buy or enter in bitcoin? on: August 08, 2018, 04:51:17 AM
Bitcoin prices plunged from $4900 to $3300 withing pan of few days. Now some news-points from bitcoin world are claiming this price plunge was planned. Check following links:

https://news.bitcoin.com/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/

Now without going into whether above claims are true or not, my concern is "Isn't this is the right time to enter the bitcoin market or purchase few more". There is definite signs of improvement in the bitcoin price market. Current price is around $3757. It is quite possible to see bitcoin back to 4k to 5k or more. Given biggest players from finance sector are eying this lucrative market.
What do you think, is this is right time to buy some more bitcoins or wait and watch?



If it isn't now, then when? We should be wise and we should know how and when to buy bitcoins to have something to hodl. It is important that we'll maximize our gain through it. We should take advantage of the dip and just buy while we are waiting for the best situation of the market.
The current time is very favorable for us to enter into the Bitcoin’s market because it value has drooped more to price equivalent to 7000 US dollar which is a low price. So in this current market our benefit that it will charge us less and furthermore it is an opportunity to collect a lot of Bitcoins which will brighten our future. Keep working here and once you gain momentum then success is yours.
Absolutely!! This is the best time to buy bitcoin because the price is dropping and great time too to enter in bitcoin. And i swear it will rise up the next few years, just hold your bitcoin and just be patient. I think it will surpass the last year's price. Just start to invest now with bitcoin and you will get big profits.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: when you sell out of panic, you are contributing to the dump! on: August 08, 2018, 04:27:54 AM
Something that we have to look here is that it's human instinct to respond contrarily notwithstanding misfortune. More than whatever else, negative occasions can likewise be considered as trial of character. For this situation where the estimation of cryptographic money is encountering a plunge, it would most likely be protected to state that the individuals who offer their monetary forms in frenzy would presumably be because of their absence of involvement in this field. Truly, they would likely contribute the landfill yet I don't think this is the first occasion when it happened.
I already did panic selling and that was biggest thing i regret in my life. I know panic selling is not good to the market but dont judge me. I do that because need money for my daily needs and important needs like in fiancial. Some says i am weak, well i dont care what do you want to say but i have my reason why i did that.
69  Economy / Economics / Re: Wise thing to do with your savings. on: August 08, 2018, 01:24:37 AM
At the moment, I am putting all my savings into my own home. And of course, it's better to invest in crypto currencies. Here earnings are 200% faster than in other ways.
Well if you have savings and wants it to grow, invest in bitcoins. Go buy bitcoins today because this is the right time to buy btc because the price is dropping. Another is put your savings in business. Build business to have profit. Also your giving a opportunity to others because you giving them a job.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: I almost lost my rock solid regular job because of crypto on: August 08, 2018, 12:50:47 AM
Like the title says, i almost lost my regular job as a software developer today when my boss reviewed my work. The job has been able to economically provide a comfortable life for me and losing it would really be a big hit to my income. I almost lost it because i spent so much time learning about everything crypto (mining, trading, bounties, etc.).

Has anyone else experienced this? I just feel pretty lucky I was given another chance and want to remind other people that having a regular job is much better than relying on the volatility of cryptocurrencies. Make sure you prioritize your work!

right, because it's not recommended to leave your work in the real world to risk everything with bitcoin.
I personally took the time very well, so far there was absolutely no problem.
I cant relate with this because i am still student but its your mistake if you lose your regular job because of bitcoin. You need to have time management, i think spending 2-3 hours in bitcoin is ok extending with that is not good because you have regular job. So if you cannot control your time just pick on this those 2 to be your priority.
71  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is a trending topic all over the world? on: August 08, 2018, 12:40:38 AM
Everywhere you can find cryptocurrency topic especially ICO projects are doing well on the marketing through social media like facebook, twitter, reddit, linked, youtube and etc. Celebrities, influential individuals and high ranking government officials are talking about cryptocurrency and that is why i think cryptocurrency is a trending topic all over the world. Do you agree with me? Even haters help cryptocurrency to be known all over the world so let just leave the haters then.
  I think the media and social networking will be the foundation for bitcoin or cryptocurrency to be popular with everyone and give them a different perspective on cryptocurrency. And when more people are interested in the market will be more and more open, many investors will spend money on the project. This is a good news

Absolutely, because they can see now the big opportunity behind bitcoin, that it will make you rich in just a short period of time. And media is the big thing thats why many more people showing inerest investing in bitcoin and that is really great. The number of people investing in bitcoin is increasing time by time and i would say the price of btc will rise up just like the price last year.
72  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm leaving Bitcoin on: August 06, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
You may have your own excuses for leaving bitcoin but some of us have tried to overcome all these excuses and still believe in crypto. Bitcoin cannot always meet our expectations but what I do know is that bitcoin will rise again and again.
No, just stay because i swear to you bitcoin's price will rise next year. The price right now is slowly increasing, dont lose hope my friend, its just a challenge for us holders. Juet remain calm and have a long patience. Your patience is the key for you to become rich. Just continue to invest in bitcoin and you will be successful, i promise.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ✅✅✅[BOUNTY]【ANN] $300K GCOX FIRST DECENTRALIZED ⭐CELEBRITY⭐ TOKEN EXCHANGE✅✅✅ on: August 02, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
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74  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cannot be a global currency on: August 02, 2018, 07:56:28 AM
Linking today's technology with philosophy is like asking an atheist to believe in the existence of God just because the convincing party is theist. Bitcoin came into picture not exactly to make up for the deficiency in the current monetary system, but in order to make it highly secure and easily accessible although being based online. Who knows, we may even come up with better tech in the near future, marking a new era of easy payments but for now, lets just crown blockchain as the flagship here.
I strongly agree with your opinion, who must believe in god because we are also created by god.
Absolutely because many countries are still againts in bitcoin, and i think many countries will be againts in bitcoin in the future. Why? Because bitcoin being used in illegal transactions and trades in black market and that really affects the economy. And if that illegal things continues btc will be banned in all countries in the future.
75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TIPS to be come victorious in bitcoin on: August 02, 2018, 07:46:38 AM
everyone should have such a soul, they must believe and not get carried away bad issues that want to drop bitcoin.
bitcoin and other kin will recover soon and prices will rise again, we wait until the end of this year
First thing is you need to be Knowledgeable about Bitcoin. Know the history of bitcoin, know how it works, know how to ear money in btc and know how to invest. Dont be shy to ask bitcoin investors about the process or the system on how to invest in bitcoin. Read some articles of blogs about bitcoin. And lastly you need to be brave to take the risk, because investing in bitcoin is risky.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: bitcoin down, altcoin rise. why? on: August 02, 2018, 07:28:56 AM
This is only depends on altcoins demand. In these days altcoins decreases along with BTC decreased. I don't think so that altcoins has  effected on BTC.
Because some altcoins moves faster than bitcoin thats why. As you can see in the market the price of bitcoin is dropping and altcoins price is increasing, it means more people try invest in altcoin than bitcoin. Im not saying that altcoin has many investors than btc, what i mean is investors try to invest in another coin because they see btc is falling down
77  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that other coins move faster? on: August 01, 2018, 11:13:29 AM
It levels the playing field somehow. But the biggest reason why Bitcoin remains to be on top despite its slow upgrade is that it is the beginning of crypto. It is the godfather.Bitcoin is considered as the king among the crypto currency and its market capital is very high comparing to the other alt coins. So no chance to the alt coins to move faster than the bitcoins.
No, no coin can surpass bitcoin in the market. The price of bitcoin is very far if you campare in the onther coins, thats why bitcoin is called the king of all crypto. Maybe some altcoins move faster but it will never surpass btc as the number 1 in crypto and 6th currency in the world.
78  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin grows everyday through Shared knowledge on: August 01, 2018, 09:53:45 AM
This is true, bitcoin really grows everyday because of the shared knowledge that it have because of the people that are continuously creating a way to share their knowledge to bitcoin. With bitcoin, they are able to make profits and they didn't stop there, they share it by helping other people to establish their chance to make money also.
Bitcoin grows and spreads from many things and roads, from the mouths of users, from various media such as social media and television, or even from government rules that prohibit bitcoin. the growth and spread of bitcoin can be spelled out very quickly. in my country alone there are more than 1 million users
Absolutely bitcoin became more famous because of others share it to others and because of that everyday the number of  users investors will increase also. And it affects all the factors, the value, the pricing of bitcoin in the maket will increase too. Thats why i convince my friends to invest in bitcoin and i always say to them that btc can make you rich
79  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Cryptocurrency Stand Without Bitcoin? on: August 01, 2018, 09:41:07 AM
which happens to cryptocurrency without bitcoin, I think there will be fewer investors, and will probably have a bad impact on altcoin prices. bitcoin is like a mother, which is the inspiration for other altcoin.
and I think it's possible that another altcoin will replace bitcoin, because altcoin like ethereum keeps rising. but do not know if bitcoin is lost, cryptocurrency will be more interesting or not.
Absolutely No, because of bitcoin crypto world became famous around the world and if bitcoin is gone, crypto will end up badly, maybe it can stay around 1 to 2 years but it will go down. Because no one will invest on it, most of the investors in crypto invest in bitcoin and if bitcoin is gone also the investors will gone.
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we change the public's view of Crypto world? on: August 01, 2018, 05:21:28 AM
People trust in net banking and internet and investment  and money transfer is going paperless,The global economy is moving towards digital system so I recommend the modern addition that  is cryptocurrency . It is a digital and decentralized virtual currency that uses cryptography for security it is not issued by any central authority so the government can't take it from us . In cryptocurrency all the transaction is saved in a public ledger so no fraud happens . It is ease to use and low fees the only thing we need is smart phones and an internet .
Convince them that investing in bitcoin really make you rich, and show them sa proof that you really get rich because of bitcoin. Honestly i am really get tired of convincing peolple, specially my friends. They dont believe me. Dont make yourself fool try to pursue people who doesnt like btc in the first place. But honestly i dlnt really carw about them i care for the price of btc in the market
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