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61  Economy / Economics / Re: [LIST] Countries that own bitcoin on: September 26, 2021, 02:53:12 AM
I know it may seem early to make such a list, but I hope it will be filled up quickly in the coming years.
Today we have the first country to announce that it owns Bitcoin.
If you have information about other countries, add it below.



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|El Salvador|.......700 BTC|...Click here|
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Technically the US currently owns bitcoin too, since coins have been seized as part of investigations into illicit activities.  The coins are custodied by law enforcement until they get a court order to sell them.  Although it's probably not what you're looking for because they're not bought for treasury purposes, the US government technically owns the coins until they're sold nonetheless.
62  Economy / Economics / Re: China Is making Fuds Since 2017, But BTC Always Gone higher on: September 26, 2021, 02:50:14 AM
Hi guys as mostly readers would be crypto related. And China is Always bug market crasher. In my point of views biggest whales always Do this with china so they can crash crypto market. So they they get always lower entries and they get higher returns to create fomo when bull market happens. So what are are your thoughts about China. If they crash crypto to 20,000 Dollars or not in coming months.

What China is doing doesn't fit the definition of FUD.  FUD is trying to bring the price down by talking negatively about it, but China is just outright banning it from the country.  They don't give a damn if that makes the price go up or down because they only care about getting it out of the country because they can't have anything challenge the digital yuan.  Since their actions are based on getting rid of it instead of affecting the price, it's not correct to call it FUD, which is a grossly overused term by this community as it is.
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Thanks for checking and the info.  Sucks we're still in a place where gambling sites are blocked based on geography, and sucks even more that in places like the US this is mainly to protect places like Las Vegas because legal online betting would "cost Vegas revenues," or so the argument goes.

Out of curiosity, what site did they recommend using when you used a US location on the VPN?
64  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 25, 2021, 07:44:09 PM
This says MassMutual was fined $4.75 million for failing to monitor Keith Gill. (Slap on the wrist for them, aren't they a billion dollar investment firm?)

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A MassMutual investment subsidiary has agreed to pay $4.75 million to resolve allegations by Massachusetts securities regulators including that it failed to supervise its agents, among them the social media persona "Roaring Kitty," whose online posts helped spark January’s trading frenzy in GameStop shares.

It's a life insurance company, but yes, they are large.  About $560 billion in assets under management in 2020.  This is a state regulator though, and state regulator fines are rarely every eye popping amounts.  Ultimately for the thing they were charged with (failure to adequately supervise employees), this seems like an adequate penalty.

This says Keith Gill touted gamestop stock in his spare time, when he wasn't on the job. Could they monitor him if he did this when he wasn't at work? I would be interested to know how they were expected to accomplish this with reasonable policy.

Yes, in the securities industry employees are required to report ALL their securities transactions and outside business activities to their employers.  It doesn't matter if you do it in your spare time or not, anything you do that is securities related needs to be tracked under rules established by the regulators to ensure there are no conflicts of interest and in the name of professional integrity.  Keith Gill did not do this, and was actively hiding his activities, which is why it's a problem.  Mass Mutual got hit because the regulator felt like didn't have adequate supervision since they weren't able to detect his activities, which he hid by posting under pseudonyms and not using his real name.

This says MassMutual failed to review social media usage or catch "excessive trading". What does excessive trading even mean? According to the article, it means he was making too much money and his individual trades were greater than $700,000, beyond the limit imposed by the company. Not really criminal, but treated as if it were a severe crime.

No, it has nothing to do with how much money you're making.  It has to do with how many trades he made that Mass Mutual was required to know about and didn't.  If it was one trade they didn't catch, that's not as much of a violation as a pattern of trading that all went undetected.  For the purpose of ensuring employees aren't committing transactions to benefit themselves at the expense of the firm's clients, this is a very serious issue.  The whole investment industry is predicated on being able to trust the people managing your money, so that's why there's so many rules about monitoring employees.

The reason the conspiracy theory movement was founded. Was due to people choosing not to accept these questionable explanations offered by the media.

If the media fails to explain things in a way that satisfies people. They will inevitably reject the media explanation, to form their own theories and conclusions. Necessity being the mother of all invention.

There's nothing questionable about the explanation here.  People invent conspiracy theories because they're too stupid to understand the real situation.  That's not an indictment of the media, but the idiots. 
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Does DPLAY just do casino table type games or does it also have a sportsbook?  The table games aren't too appealing to me, but I do like sportsbooks, particularly for NFL and NBA.  Also, any geo-blocking issues for players to be concerned about?
66  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: September 25, 2021, 06:24:29 PM

Lastly, a declaration of Micheal Saylor spoke vaguely about “self-custody” without going much into details.
 MICHAEL SAYLOR: WE CUSTODY OUR BITCOIN AND DO NOT LEND IT OUT


Thanks for posting this.  Although it doesn't seem likely to me, I agree it's possible they're literally custodying the bitcoin in a wallet that's not part of a professional service by themselves.  I just don't know why anyone would do this when it's billions of dollars at stake and it increases the risks.  Since he's couching the above quote though as a contrast to lending, I think it's more likely that he means that they keep the bitcoin (through a professional custodian like Coinbase) and do not lend it out, with the "custodying" just meaning the opposite of "lending".  In the article, he talks about how much that increases the risk for an extra 5% return.  But again, they could mean custodying it themselves in their own wallet, but I would be surprised if this is the case.
67  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 25, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
Not much of a fine compared with the profit of moving shorts in media and nothing compared to the effects that this type of behaviour has had on the market actors, who are now afraid to short even the most decrepit and decadent companies with awful results sheets. This is not healthy for the market and I believe the regulator has failed to achieve any deterrent for the future.

Well the fine wasn't designed to address any of the things you mentioned.  First, Mass Mutual had nothing to do with any of the activities Keith Gill was undertaking.  Gill wasn't working on behalf of Mass Mutual when he made his trades or his social media posts.  Second, touting market moves isn't illegal, but the manner it which Gill did it was fraudulent, but again this has nothing to do with Mass Mutual.  Third, if short sellers are afraid to over-short certain companies because now they're at a high risk of being squeezed, I'm not really certain that's a net bad thing.  Shorting always carries more risk than buying long because your potential loss is infinite, and despite knowing this they put themselves in a vulnerable position anyway which was reckless and they have no one to blame for that but themselves.  The amount GME was shorted created a massive incentive for someone to put the screws to them, and Keith Gill eventually found a way to do that- just unfortunately committing fraud was a major component of it.

What this fine was about is failure to supervise employees adequately, and the fine and the bad press is going to have exactly the effect the regulator desires.  If you think other insurance companies and brokers aren't reviewing their social media policies and personal trading policies in this aftermath to make sure they don't get blindsided by something like this... well I wouldn't bet on that is all I'm saying.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: CHINA Banning bitcoin: PBOC Says All Crypto-Related Transactions Are Illegal on: September 24, 2021, 10:31:14 PM
Bloomberg news:

China banning bitcoin, again:

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PBOC Says All Crypto-Related Transactions Are Illegal (1)
By Bloomberg News
(Bloomberg) --
The Chinese central bank says all cryptocurrency-related transactions are illegal, according to a Q&A statement on PBOC’s website about a joint government guidelines on cracking down on cryptocurrency trading and speculation risks.
Online crytocurrency services to Chinese clients by overseas exchanges are also illegal
It is an urgent task for China to root out crypto mining; the crackdown is important to meet carbon goals, according to the guidelines on website of the nation’s economic planning agency
Bitcoin dropped as much as 3.8% on the news; Ether also tumbled, along with crypto-related stocks
 


Filippone QuickTake:


  • China banning bitcoin, again
  • The less Bitcoin has to do with China, the better
  • When something is useful and enacting freedom, immediately a dictatorial government will try to stop it
  • This is going to be an historic error for China, as it was banning bitcoin mining
  • If bitcoin wants to be the best and hardes Store of Value in history of mankind, then it has to withstand this kind of attacks
  • Futures are not to blame here, as today expiry has already happened.



This isn't really unique to bitcoin.  The ccp is exerting increasing levels of control over all aspects of chinese society.  China has always been hostile to foreign tech companies operating in the country, but recently they've started harshly restricting even chinese-based tech companies and basically anything that could exert influence over the society and sap loyalty from the party, including video game makers, tv and movie studios companies and others.  At the core of the moves are promoting ultra-nationalist tendencies as china gears up to challenge the US globally.  With the implementation of the digital yuan, bitcoin is just another element that threatens the party's power because they can't control it.  But unlike the maximalists on these boards that claim it's censorship proof and the government can't stop it, I say just watch how few people are going to be out of compliance now that it's fully illegal.  
69  Economy / Economics / Re: Tulip Mania 2.0 on: September 23, 2021, 06:31:40 PM
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How are NFTs different from Bitcoin at all? The value of each is based only on speculation, they're premised on a manufactured scarcity to give the impression of being valuable because they are somewhat rare, people are only interested in them as a get rich quick vehicle... the comparison is perfect. I see no difference between NFTs and Bitcoin, so for someone to criticize NFTs as an investment vehicle and not crypto is the peak of cognitive dissonance to me.

Well, to give you a short answer, Bitcoin is a payment method, and NFTs are far from it.

You can buy BTC for $48k apiece, and since Bitcoin is accepted by 15,000 businesses worldwide, including major companies like PayPal, Microsoft, AT&T, Starbucks etc., the same day you can pay for their goods and services at more or less the same rate. Theoretically, we could be doing the same thing with NFTs using barter system, but good luck with buying an NFT for $48k and expecting provision of goods and services for this amount.

Kinda missed my point.
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No, I didn't. I'm sorry to have made that impression on you, but I didn't miss your point. The thing is that I'm always trying to write posts that aim not only to someone I'm replying to, but to other people who might read my post also.

I'm not talking about the literal differences between bitcoin and NFTs, I'm talking about what makes each "valuable."  You probably should have been able to pick that up from the context of the rest of the post.  Your post didn't address the substance of my post, which is how are you drawing an arbitrary line between NFTs and Bitcoin and trying to pretend they're different when it's the exact same thing that makes each valuable- large groups of people who arbitrarily agree they are.

If you think of it, it could be said about almost anything. Take gold, for instance. We all know that gold is highly efficient and, at the same time, corrosion-free conductor which makes it irreplaceable in electronics. But do you know that today 80% of the newly obtained gold is used in jewellery manufacture? So, the main demand is coming from that field, jewellery, and thus it's the main factor that affects the price. Now, why do people think that gold jewellery is valuable despite the fact that gold can be replaced by materials that look absolutely the same but thousand times cheaper? Maybe because, using your words, there are large groups of people who arbitrarily agree it is?  Smiley

But now you've given an example of gold's intrinsic value- use in jewelry.  The value comes from it's intrinsic properties; not people speculating on it's value, but actual use.  That's not where bitcoin's value comes from, nor NFTs.  In both cases, that value comes exclusively from speculation on the future value of them, based solely on a mass assumption of future worth.  To differentiate, gold as a store of value is completely arbitrary, just like bitcoin.  But gold still has a demand outside of store of value (the intrinsic value of gold) and bitcoin and NFTs do not.  That's the difference between bitcoin and gold and why there's no difference between bitcoin and NFTs.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: Tulip Mania 2.0 on: September 21, 2021, 04:26:00 PM
That's my argument too when someone says that bitcoin or worse, cryptocurrencies are like the Tulip Mania, I always say to them that how come bitcoin's going to be the same when it has been a decade since the genesis block and the original Tulip Mania only lasted for about 2 or 3 year iirc.

It sounds like you're mistaking what makes mania. It's not duration, it's severity of the bubble.  Nobody ever knows they're in a bubble until after it pops, otherwise you'd never have bubbles.  People buying tulips during the tulip bubble didn't know they were buying into a bubble, just like the people buying houses in 2007 didn't know they were buying into a bubble, just like (for all you know) the people buying bitcoin now don't know they're buying into a bubble.  It is impossible to dispel the non-existence of a bubble contemporaneously, it's something that can only be known after-the-fact.
71  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 20, 2021, 05:15:44 PM
they know it was impossible to target the reddit group as there was absolutely no wrongdoing on their part so they have decided to catch the brokers involved instead. The cycle would go on again, they are blaming the company, the company would eventually blame this on their employees and sack them, at the end they will make a middle class suffer.
Say what, now?  The middle class didn't suffer at all because of the Game Stop shenanigans as far as I know.  If anything, those Reddit retards (who I assume are pretty middle class) made out like bandits because of their manipulation of GME stock.  But you can't have people who work for financial institutions doing that, else there would be utter chaos in the markets. 

MassMutual was right to discipline Roaring Kitty for making social media posts related to Game Stop.  Can you imagine if stock brokers or hedge fund/mutual fund managers were allowed to make bullish statements anonymously on sites like Reddit?  There would be so much manipulation that nobody would ever know the true value of anything because of all the noise.
Seriously? You think these hedge fund managers don't make such statements? Switch on any business finance channel like Bloomberg or CNN, all you would find is different experts giving their opinions about different stonks, that shit is even more dangerous than randomly saying things on twitter!

Hedge fund managers try to create as much buzz as possible for their portfolio and about the great growth they see in Economy just to shape the consumer sentiment. Won't say Roaring kitty was very right, but calling him out after a year gives clear signs of scapegoating him. Also I don't know the American SEC laws precisely but if it's not proved illegal then I am stern that roaring kitty is nowhere wrong, ethics are the first thing these hedge fund managers screw for money.

Making statements about stocks isn't illegal, but making false representations while you're doing it is fraud and that is illegal.  When a Bill Ackman goes on CNBC and says "We're shorting this stock because it's a garbage company and it's going to zero" there's nothing wrong with that.  But that's not what Keith Gill did.  He created several online alter egos and pretended to be an amateur trader in order to get people to trust him and buy into the narrative that the little people could band together and stick it to the professional traders, never revealing that he himself was actually a professional trader.  That's fraud.  That's illegal.
72  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 19, 2021, 06:55:05 AM
This seems a lot less severe than what Robinhood had to deal with when they limited trading on their platform during the GME craze.

If you wanted to play conspiracy theorist, one might suggest they were actively colluding with the private companies doing the short selling. Keep in mind, most brokerage firms did not limit GME trading - just Robinhood.

That's because most brokerage firms didn't have near the exposure to GME that robinhood did through its client base.  There was no conspiracy.  The market makers demanded more collateral from robinhood to continue having access to that market as the frenzy was making it prohibitively expensive for the market makers to continue facilitating trades in that market, and robinhood didn't have the cash for it.  Eventually they were able to raise a ton of cash on an emergency basis for collateral, but until then they were cut off from the market and were forced to cut their customers off as a result.  I suppose if you don't understand what was going on behind the scenes it's easy to just call it a conspiracy theory, especially when you want to believe in the boogeyman, and most people around here do.  Doesn't make them any less stupid for doing so.
73  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 19, 2021, 04:03:20 AM
There is saying, "the one who gets caught while sniffing, is the real thief". The same thing applies here, now that Gill is caught manipulating the market his the one wrongdoing. There are even great examples who are live ones like Elon Musk, whose manipulating the market all the time.
I feel like Gill was part of the plan of Mass Mutual, they needed a fall guy and so they chose Gill to be that person, the company won't be hit too much by this fall out but Gill is going to have his life collapse right in his face.


No.  Mass Mutual didn't know and didn't have an positions in the stocks.  Nothing Gill did benefited them, in fact he only caused reputational harm to the company by exposing how inadequate their compliance procedures were that they couldn't detect his social media activities.
I feel like Gill was part of the plan of Mass Mutual, they needed a fall guy and so they chose Gill to be that person, the company won't be hit too much by this fall out but Gill is going to have his life collapse right in his face.
74  Economy / Economics / Re: Tulip Mania 2.0 on: September 19, 2021, 03:34:13 AM
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How are NFTs different from Bitcoin at all? The value of each is based only on speculation, they're premised on a manufactured scarcity to give the impression of being valuable because they are somewhat rare, people are only interested in them as a get rich quick vehicle... the comparison is perfect. I see no difference between NFTs and Bitcoin, so for someone to criticize NFTs as an investment vehicle and not crypto is the peak of cognitive dissonance to me.

Well, to give you a short answer, Bitcoin is a payment method, and NFTs are far from it.

You can buy BTC for $48k apiece, and since Bitcoin is accepted by 15,000 businesses worldwide, including major companies like PayPal, Microsoft, AT&T, Starbucks etc., the same day you can pay for their goods and services at more or less the same rate. Theoretically, we could be doing the same thing with NFTs using barter system, but good luck with buying an NFT for $48k and expecting provision of goods and services for this amount.

Kinda missed my point.  I'm not talking about the literal differences between bitcoin and NFTs, I'm talking about what makes each "valuable."  You probably should have been able to pick that up from the context of the rest of the post.  Your post didn't address the substance of my post, which is how are you drawing an arbitrary line between NFTs and Bitcoin and trying to pretend they're different when it's the exact same thing that makes each valuable- large groups of people who arbitrarily agree they are.

And you're grossly overstating Bitcoin's utility as a payment method.  15k businesses worldwide is nothing, and extreme volatility makes it a piss poor currency.  Bitcoin is a speculative asset, same as NFTs.  Anyone pretending otherwise is perpetrating a fiction.


You can argue for that, and I would respect it. Plus using ONLY the market as the main standpoint for your argument, I would say you’re right. But Bitcoin is more than the market. It’s also the protocol, the incentive structure, EVERYTHING about it that makes the system stick together IS the true value. NFTs are issued somewhere in a shitcoin blockchain that might not exist in 10 years.

The “art” in NFT are also not good. Most of them are worthless or will be, and stupid. It’s Tulip Mania 2.0.


Fair enough, but everything you're saying about NFTs are the exact same thing that's been said about Bitcoin (and continues to be said about Bitcoin by the naysayers) that you take such exception to.  You're just drawing a line that around NFTs and saying "Come on, how is that going to be worth anything in the future?" the same way the mainstream financial media has been doing about bitcoin since it started gaining widespread notoriety.  It does remain highly amusing to me that anyone who thinks bitcoin is the future uses the same arguments against NFTs that they have rejected against Bitcoin for the last 10 years without a hint of irony.  Highly amusing.
75  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: September 19, 2021, 02:37:28 AM
I just wish there was more NFL football matches.  I think they usually have the Super Bowl and perhaps the regular playoff rounds, but weekly games during the regular season would be a good offering.  Even if it's just key matchup games like they usually do on Monday Night Football, that would be better than nothing.

Last year we did a selection of games throughout the regular season.

I think they don't do it because there hasn't been a lot of interest in it perhaps?  But NFL betting is a huge market.  I'd be surprised if it wasn't utilized.  I'd be interested.  Couldn't care less about soccer or crypto price betting, but NFL is in my wheelhouse.

The real reason we haven't done it this year is that NFL is my least favourite US sport and I hadn't realised the season had started yet. I'll get onto it for next week.

Oh well I look forward then to having some NFL games to pick through in the near future.  A bit surprised to hear the NFL is your least favorite sport, but to each their own though.  If nothing else, it's a great betting sport so at least it should drum up some extra wagering business for the site once you get some games up.
76  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: September 19, 2021, 02:30:50 AM
The board is definitely not a multisig, it wouldn't make sense for several reasons.  First, with any company, the board generally doesn't have access to bank accounts for the company so there would be no reason to give them such access with bitcoin through a mutlisig setup.  It's cumbersome and needlessly bureaucratic, and therefore unnecessary.  Also, the board doesn't really have any power to check Saylor due to his super majority voting power, so there's no reason for him to share responsibility with the board.  They serve as figureheads only with no real power in the company.  You definitely wouldn't give people like that responsibility to control any part of the company's day-to-day operations, which again would be needlessly bureaucratic.

In that case, it could still be multi-sig and he controls super majority of the keys. An example would be a 3-of-7 quorum, and he has all 7, but 2 other highly trusted employees (not necessarily part of the board, but usually are) have one key each, and the other 5 are kept as backups somewhere safe. Why? What if Michael Saylor the individual gets hit by a bus? The company has to survive and it would need access to the coins. Then one other key can be released by his lawyers or something like that.

The way he talks, it would seem unlikely he has the company bitcoins in third party custody.

I mean, you don't need to be separate individuals to do multi-sig. I do it myself, altho I usually use single sig to save on fees. I'm going to wait for full taproot to go live before doing any more multi-sig.

Otherwise we are looking at the next QuadrigaCX. (The exchange where the owner with sole possession of the keys died.)

Extremely unlikely there is multisig in any fashion going on.  I also agree with Fillippone that I would expect that the coins are professionally custodied by Coinbase since I believe that is the company that is buying the coins on MSTR's behalf.  It would make poor business sense and be extremely risky to have Coinbase execute the trades and then move billions of dollars worth of coins to another wallet controlled by Saylor personally, or some combination of Saylor and the Board in a multisig set up.  I would be extremely shocked if those coins ever left the custody of whatever platform placed the trades to buy them, because there's no logistical or business reason for them to and only increased risk associated with doing so.
77  Economy / Economics / Re: MassMutual Fined in GameStop Fallout on: September 19, 2021, 12:06:03 AM
Now they're calling it a manipulation but when they do it everyday to other companies to make money shorting their stocks, it's just a normal day, that's a pretty deplorable capitalist move right there if I've seen one.

There is saying, "the one who gets caught while sniffing, is the real thief". The same thing applies here, now that Gill is caught manipulating the market his the one wrongdoing. There are even great examples who are live ones like Elon Musk, whose manipulating the market all the time. But what to say the Senator himself is Elon's follower so he does not see it as market manipulation. That's the normal person and he cant be caught because does have billions in his left pocket and who knows how many powerful peeps in the right pocket!
Now unfortunately Gill does not have both of them (or whatever he has is not much). His one pocket is surely light weight.  Wink

The difference between Gill and Musk is that Gill created false personas to hype his personal holdings, and Musk did not.  You can't even say that Musk is trying to hype things for his personal benefit, as opposed to just stroking his ego by watching you all freak out over everything he says and does.  Gill had a position he was trying to make more valuable through fraudulent actions.  You can't say the same about Musk. Two entirely different scenarios.
78  Economy / Economics / Re: Have you notice how corporations took over the internet ? on: September 18, 2021, 10:39:25 PM
Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The "democratization" of communication was supposed to be a great thing for humanity, but giving everyone a voice just conditioned everyone to think that their opinion was the most important and that if things weren't happening the way they wanted then the government or the system or the world was broken.  The internet created echo chambers that reinforced the notion that anyone who didn't agree with you was your enemy who had to be defeated.
 In reality, the internet ushered in this era of extremism and vitriol we see in politics now, and it's not fixable.  The internet and social media has ruined public discourse forever and turned everyone into intolerant trolls.
79  Economy / Economics / Re: Visa reportedly aims to integrate Bitcoin payments in Brazil on: September 18, 2021, 10:34:50 PM
If Bolsanaro is associated with this move. Brazil would be the latest "right wing" state to embrace bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. After "right wing" texas and florida. It is possible el salvador's leadership is also right wing leaning which could be part of the motive behind recently passed crypto mass adoption. I don't know enough about el salvador's political climate to say exactly what is happening there.

If such is the case, we could be witnessing a pattern where left wing china and its left wing banker allies oppose bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in places like nigeria where central banks moved to ban crypto. Left wing leaning states like new york and california are also known to be very unfriendly towards crypto with new york having outright banned stablecoins like tether and imposing strict anti crypto regulation in place.

While the right wing does the opposite by supporting and embracing bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. As seen by florida, texas and now brazil. All of which are heavily attacked by left wing media for various reasons.

That could be one of the most important emerging trends as far as cryptocurrencies go in 2021.

I'll take "left wing" regulation over the arbitrary legal hellholes like the Brazil Bolsonaro wants to create every or the religiously fueled insanity in Florida or Texas day of the week if that's the trade off you're trying to offer with this post.  You can really feel the desperation in this post to make this a left vs. right divide though with how far you're reaching.  Is a lying, pandemic denying politicians like Bolsonaro now one of your great heros because he's too busy undermining democracy to regulate crypto?  Cuz he's not exactly a useful advocate to those of us in the civilized world.
80  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world on: September 18, 2021, 10:04:59 PM
I'm not sure why there's such a large push for vaccine mandates when the vaccine works on an individual basis. Whether someone else gets vaccinated has no effect on you, yet they expect you to talk around triple masked after vaxxed, or might impose regulation on businesses when case counts go up? It's nonsense, and there isn't any actual science behind it. Covid is just going to keep mutating and it seems seasonal lockdowns might be a thing and more probable than a forced vaccine program.

Because reducing the number of infection vectors is a major part of defeating the virus.  The more people who are vaccinated, the fewer bodies the virus can propagate in.  Vaccines, masking, social distance- all three of these reduce infections.  It's insane at this point there are still people who don't understand how this works, but that's exactly why the world is still as bad off as it is- people who question why vaccines are necessary or why there are mask mandates.  You're very clearly part of the problem.
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