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181  Economy / Economics / Re: If you can get paid through cryptocurrency, do you still choose fiat currency? on: August 01, 2021, 04:41:48 AM
If the boss pays in Bitcoin, would you want it? Or you continue to prefer to pay in fiat currency to facilitate the purchase of tokens you like.

If you're doing a portion of your paycheck as a way to dollar cost average in, that makes sense.  It's just like an investment account where you would have the same arrangement.  But I can't imagine anyone who actually needs their job income to live would take 100% in bitcoin.  The utility isn't high enough and the volatility risk is extremely high.
182  Economy / Economics / Re: They want $28 billion from "Crypto Brokers" on: August 01, 2021, 04:32:38 AM
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Language in the $550 billion infrastructure bill before Congress wants "Crypto Brokers" to pay $28bn of that...

Crypto Brokers is not well defined, very vague, probably overly broad.  The crypto industry is not happy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/not-drill-infrastructure-bill-could-sink-american-crypto-industry

Zerohedge is an unreliable source of information.  They regularly overhype threats, deal in conspiracy theories, and have no accountability because all their articles are written under fake names.  It's a low quality information source and nobody who considers themselves educated should read it.
183  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we really heading towards hyperinflation or towards deflation? on: August 01, 2021, 04:27:15 AM


-95% in 100 years.


That's really irrelevant for all practical purposes because people don't hold cash for 100 years, so nobody suffers the inflation rate this chart shows.  Anyone with significant assets have their wealth in assets other than cash; equities, real estate, alternative investments, etc.  And the dollar will never suffer the type of volatility that bitcoin suffers on a daily basis, so how bitcoin is going to be a "safe haven" for inflation when it has greater price volatility than the USD by several hundred times is something that bitcoin maximalists never have an answer for.
184  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we really heading towards hyperinflation or towards deflation? on: July 31, 2021, 06:00:41 PM
The majority of people out there think the dollar is doomed but because they are expecting hyperinflation. All the media talks about now is inflation and not deflation. So people are expecting a crash in the USD, which is the opposite of what he is expecting. In fact, he is betting against the crowd in this point. Then he explain that as long as some technical (analysis) points are not broken he remains bullish on the USD and bonds.

Another thing to analyze, if he is right, is how Bitcoin would behave in a deflationary environment. I believe that at the beginning of a crisis it would happen like in March 2020, that people would panic and sell fast to get cash. But once the initial scare passed, money would return to Bitcoin, which is an asset that is perceived increasingly as safe. Also, traditionally gold was a safe haven during crises, and I think it will be replaced by Bitcoin.


Hyperinflation is very unlikely, people have been warning about it in the US since we left the gold standard and despite never being right they still warn about it.  But deflation is equally unlikely, if not more.  We just don't have a monetary policy where deflation is likely to occur.  You're not going to have wide-scale falling prices while the money supply is increasing.

As for bitcoin in a deflationary environment, it would suffer greatly.  All the recent price appreciation of bitcoin is based on the false premise that the dollar is doomed to fail or be inflated to meaninglessness.  If a period where the dollar is getting stronger (deflation), Bitcoin is not likely to have nearly the speculative appeal it has today.  It is only the relative economic prosperity of those buying bitcoin that allows it to increase in price.  We see this every time there is an economic shock, bitcoin falls much faster than other assets- gold, real estate, equities, etc.  Because at the end of the day, Bitcoin is only based on speculation, so when people are economically afraid, there is no appetite for that speculation anymore.
185  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin doesn't care about Tesla and Amazon on: July 31, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
At the beginning of this year, Tesla announced that it would accept Bitcoin as a payment for car purchases, and the price of Bitcoin has skyrocketed as a result. In May, after Musk announced that Tesla would no longer accept Bitcoin as a payment option due to environmental concerns, the price of Bitcoin began to dive. At the beginning of July, Musk said that Tesla would resume accepting Bitcoin in the future. Last week, Amazon issued a message to recruit people in charge of digital currency and blockchain products, which aroused people's attention. Therefore, many people would think these news caused changes in the price of Bitcoin.

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But bitcoin price fluctuations are largely affected by technical indicators rather than basic events. Bitcoin's short-term upward trend began before Amazon's job advertisement was announced, and the pace of the trend does not seem to be affected by news reports. These news will affect Bitcoin's short-term price fluctuations. In the long run, Bitcoin will not care about Amazon's recruitment information or Tesla's sentiment to cause price fluctuations.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinrivers/2021/07/27/bitcoin-didnt-care-about-tesla-and-it-doesnt-care-about-amazon-either/?sh=48dd020513b8



It's much less technical indicators than macro events.  The dip was corresponding with a crack down in China, so there was a lot of bitcoin that had to find buyers fast, hence the steep sell off.  When that supply waned bitcoin recovered.  You can look at technical indicators all you want, and maybe, maybe it can explain short term fluctuations on a small scale, but the overall price movement corresponds with macro events, not technical charting.


186  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: July 30, 2021, 06:34:11 PM
if you reach the 100k rp encash point would u encash to sats immediately or would u continue to grind for more rp since every rp after that can technically be converted if you wanted to
If you are asking it to me then the answer is ‘yes’. I have already done it two times in this year. Now those converted RP (satoshi) giving me little extra interest in my freebitco balance. So, converting the RP will be a good decision if you keep the converted amount in your freebitco account. And I know that I will reach the 100k RP mark gradually again.


Are you a big gambler?  I have been using this site fairly heavily and consistently for about 4-5 years and still never reached 100k RP.  Just wondering where your RP comes from so quickly that you've reached the conversion threshold twice in a single year.
187  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Member-Hero Accepted) (New) on: July 30, 2021, 06:26:57 PM

The campaign has been managed for almost two years now by me and there's one assurance, all payout are been made accurately when they're been process. I can't give you an exact timeframe but it ranges within two months that's 7-8 weeks so I believe that shouldn't be any different this time around.

Sometimes it's better that way as we get advantage on Bitcoin pump. One other advantage is the bonus the participants get for the delay weeks. If you were supposed to receive payout for your weeks in the campaign, no worries all the data are intact and you'll be paid when payout are made to others.



You've been very good at running the campaign, however I would like to constructively offer a few points about the delays in payment.

1.  A delay in payment is never to the benefit of the people owed money.  With any delay, there is a risk of not being paid what you're owed, and the longer the delay the greater the risk.  As the people who are owed money, it is always in our best interest to have our payment as soon as possible. 

2. The small rounding in payments that happens is not really a good justification for the delay.  That is, I don't consider getting a few hundred extra sats to really make up for having to wait 6 weeks or more for payment.  This is just an opinion, others may disagree and there's no right answer to an opinion, but I just want to float that I in particular would prefer prompt payments over a little extra dust.

3.  Given the very long delays, I would have figured that the weekly payments could be consolidated into a lump sum payment instead of making 6-7 separate transactions.  This greatly increases the expense to us since we have far more transaction inputs this way and will pay more in fees to move the bitcoin in the future because of it.  This is my biggest concern in all of this.  It's one thing if you're getting paid every week, then the transaction fees are what they are.  But we're not being paid every week, we're being paid about every 6-7 weeks and then getting 6-7 transactions instead of just 1.  If lump sum payments were made, that would partially justify the delay in payments, as it would benefit us since we would only have 1 input instead of 6-7 different inputs for the same amount of bitcoin.  But the way things are now, we're waiting for very long periods of time and then our payments are coming in a way that maximize our expenses and for no reason.  I ask that this policy be reconsidered, such that if we are expected to wait so long, our payments be consolidated into one transaction.

Again, you're doing a great job running the campaign and tracking all the information.  Payment has eventually always been received.  But this is not a guarantee it always will be, and so the longer between payments the more risk to all of us who are owed bitcoin.  And if we have to bear that risk, when payments are made they should be done in a way to minimize transaction inputs so we're not waiting for weeks and then transacting in the least efficient way possible.

A quick note about the delayed payments, again, they have always eventually been paid, but the delay is gradually getting longer between payments.  Below is a list of payments over the last year, along with the time between payments.

Payment Date      Days Since Last Payment Date
7/14/2020                            ---
8/12/2020                            29
9/12/2020                            31
10/9/2020                            27
11/6/2020                            28
11/11/2020                           5
12/18/2020                          37
2/4/2021                              48
3/16/2021                            40
4/29/2021                            44
6/14/2021                            46

*Current Days Unpaid            46

The current delay is in line with the recent periods as long as it comes now.  But you can see the trend is clearly getting longer between payments, as it used to be every 4 weeks and now we're at every 6-7 weeks.  And in light of the points I raised above, I ask whoever is in charge to consider some some changes to make things better for us users- either shortening the delay between payments or consolidating the payments if they are not made weekly.

Thanks.
188  Economy / Economics / Re: New Jersey Pension Invested $7M in Bitcoin Mining on: July 25, 2021, 07:08:28 AM
Well, that's a really risky investment considering that bitcoin is a volatile investment especially using pension as a capital for the investment.
This is a shitpost that I'm replying to, but you're right that it's risky.  However, I just took a look at the stocks in question (RIOT and MARA), and it looks like they've been performing pretty well since their inception.  And I thank OP for linking to the article and mentioning those stocks in his post, because I had no idea those two companies even existed and put them on my watchlist.  Investing in either one of them would be a great way to get some "mining exposure" without actually having to invest, run, and maintain all the equipment necessary to mine bitcoin yourself.

Looks like Marathon Digital Holdings is out of Las Vegas, NV but mines in North Dakota--smart, because I can only imagine how much cooling they'd need if the mining was being done in Las Vegas.  North Dakota, on the other hand, is known for its frigid temperatures. 

I have to say, I'm also kind of surprised that a pension fund would buy stocks like these, but if they're administering 401k's (and I don't know that they are), some participants may want high risk/high return investments.  In any case, this is pretty cool!

A pension fund doesn't invest in or administer 401Ks.  Pension funds are a different type of retirement account where the employer is responsible for funding and investing the assets for the purpose of paying out of the pool when employees retire.  401Ks are individual retirement plans that only apply to a single person.

I have never trusted RIOT since it basically abandoned it's previous business venture to become a bitcoin company.  The company used to be known as Bioptix.  It's a huge red flag when a company does a complete 180 and starts a completely new business that had nothing to do with it's previous business.  I guess it has fairly stable operations now, but I've never gotten over the initial distrust.
189  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank of Nigeria to launch digital currency Oct 1, 2021. on: July 25, 2021, 06:52:22 AM
October 1 is an incredibly aggressive timeline for a launch, I'm surprised they're announcing something so soon and I'll be even more surprised if they can actually pull it off. It's not the sort of thing you can just set up and launch successfully on a country-wide scale with so little time.
190  Economy / Economics / Re: On Cuba and economy on: July 25, 2021, 06:35:06 AM
In Cuba the protests are due to a cry for freedom.

That's what I've said before. You live in Venezuela, right?

Those I see praising the Cuban regime I would send to spend a little time there, but not with the politicians there, who live very well, but with the common people. They were going to get a taste of the good life there.

Above I was asking something else, too. Cnut237 was saying that the US has not intervened in Cuba because it has no oil. And this is something I find hard to believe because if oil were the reason they would have intervened in Venezuela many years ago.

The question was for Cnut237 but I am interested in the opinion of anyone else as well.


Well, the US has had a lot of interventions in Venezuela, just not always militarily.  The US continues to put sanctions on the country and also was recognized an opposition politician as the rightful leader of the country after the last election.  Both of these are interventions aimed to regime change, just not a military intervention.  The US has had repeated interventions in Cuba of the same nature, the sanctions are aimed at forcing Cuba to open up the government and become more democratic.  In that case, it's obviously not about oil because there is none.
191  Economy / Economics / Re: Not just money but oil is most important in the World on: July 25, 2021, 05:56:42 AM
Oil is on it's way out.  The resources the world will fight over in the future are rare earth metals needed to make high tech devices and especially military equipment.  There are very few locations where there are good deposits, and whoever controls those will have a strategic economic and military advantage.  We're on our way to solving for a world that uses much less oil, but there currently is no way around a lack of REMs.

Regarding rare earth elements (REE), I have heard that they are somewhat abundant in the planet. The main issue is with processing of the mineral deposits, which produces large volumes of toxic byproducts. Right now, China is a leader, because their environmental regulations are not very strong and private players can get away with the toxins they produce. China accounts for 58% of the global REE production, and this in turn has made them a global leader in the production of electronic appliances. Myanmar is another country, which is increasing its production right now. US has enough deposits, but getting the clearance from the government to extract them is quite difficult.

You may be right about them not being as "rare" as the name might suggest.  I did some reading after your comment and it turns out the US has several significant deposits, but there's not currently a way to get them out of the ground in an ecologically acceptable way.  So while the US is waiting for a technological breakthrough to access them in a better way, we're reliant on China where we import 80% of the REE we need.  That's an obvious economic and national security threat, one which China has already threatened to use as leverage in trade negotiations.
192  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is key to the future of Twitter, Jack Dorsey says on: July 25, 2021, 05:43:00 AM
I thought we stopped trusting these billionaires for their takes on cryptocurrency, especially after the fiasco with Elon Musk. These people made billions off traditional institutions and traditional currencies, I’m not interested on their useless commentary. Dorsey should fix his social media platform and promote free speech first, then maybe I’d take his opinion serious

What ever gave you the impression twitter was a free speech platform? The company built a communications platform, it gets to decide what can be said on it. It's under no obligation to host speech that violates its terms of service.
193  Economy / Economics / Re: EU wants to ban crypto anonymous transactions and wallets on: July 25, 2021, 05:27:47 AM
That’s a little disappointing, what happened to the whole alleged value of freedom by the EU?

But I don’t see that becoming a big problem, how can they possibly influence the transactions that are done off the exchange? People with hardware should be fine, the only problem will be withdrawal. But I guess those regulations will just lead to the emergence of unlicensed and underground exchanges.

What makes you think that will happen?  Bitcoin was outlawed in China and did we see a bunch of underground exchanges open up, or did we see a mass exodus of bitcoin leaving China while people could still exchange it legally before the crackdown?  We saw the latter, so there's no reason to think that there's going to be a bunch of illegal exchanges popping up to try and get around the law when it becomes illegal to operate one.
194  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is key to the future of Twitter, Jack Dorsey says on: July 24, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
Yeah, we are happy until we aren't. What I mean by that is that some people said it too back then when Elon was vocal about his company's acquisition of billions of worth of bitcoin back then and then suddenly suspending the payment option and saying that mining isn't good for the environment.

The difference is Elon is a whackadoo and flip flops on a lot of stuff and Dorsey has been very consistent.  Elon also is mostly just talk (and doing so for attention) but hasn't done really anything concrete to advance crypto, except say Tesla would accept bitcoin before canceling that.  Dorsey's Square has actually integrated bitcoin into the Cash app and has made tangible contributions to bitcoin adoption.  These two are almost polar opposites on crypto.  Elon talks about it because he wants attention, Dorsey actually builds things that have value.
I hope that you will prove me wrong because these billionaires and businessesmen supporting bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have a good track record of being a manipulator, I mean look at Elon, you may say that he is crazy but he is smart he was supportive of bitcoin until he pulled a rug under on many of the people.

If you're talking about Jack Dorsey, then just look at what he's done.  He's integrated bitcoin directly into the Cash App, which is one of the largest consumer and business cash transfer apps in the country, and it's expected to become much more of a hub to both consumers and small businesses.  He's also working on integrating bitcoin directly into Twitter, so imagine being able to send tips in bitcoin for certain tweets and stuff like that.  These are things that have real value.
195  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: July 24, 2021, 04:46:04 PM
Technically, I suppose I would classify Saylor's involuntary removal as CEO as possible but extremely unlikely. It sure would be interesting to watch a fight like that play out to see if the hypothetical possibility could actually play out in reality.

As you outlined jaysabi, about a snowball's chance in hell of removing him, absent some major-ass screw up and getting himself and/or company into criminal trouble or something like that - otherwise, if he plays within the parameters of his own discretion which is almost complete in the sense of: "if you don't like what I do, get the fuck out then kind of power, then he's pretty much untouchable." 

I think the only way it's possible is if the board convened an emergency meeting for the purpose of removing him, but as Chairman, they couldn't do this without his knowledge.  Logistically I don't know how the order of events would come out first.  Could the board officially fire him before he officially removes board members?  I don't know which events could technically happen first, but I think it's extremely unlikely he would be removed in any event.  After all, he wasn't removed as CEO after fraudulently cooking the books, so I don't know how you could survive outright fraud but not being wrong about an investment where there was no ill intention.
196  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: July 24, 2021, 06:52:58 AM
It is for this reason that Saylor constantly reminds that they are not going to sell bitcoin. They don't care about the price, be it very high or very low.
And I'm saying Michael Saylor's job as CEO may not be as secure as you think, especially if bitcoin were to drop to a price low enough that it starts adversely affecting MSTR's stock.  It doesn't matter if Saylor thinks it's his company.  MicroStrategy is publicly traded, and if a strategy starts causing stockholders to lose money, they'll be out for blood.  And when that happens to any corporation, who do you think is the first person out the door?  The CEO.

You can be out for blood all you want, but that doesn't mean you can do anything about it, and in this case shareholders literally can't do anything about it.  Shareholders don't have enough voting power to elect anyone to the board of directors without Saylor's say, so there is literally no way for shareholders to check Saylor's power.  He simply controls too much voting power to ever not get who he wants on the board elected.  And as long as he's making the appropriate risk disclosures, shareholders will likely never win a lawsuit either so there's no way to check him from outside the company either.  MSTR is Saylor's show and investors are only along for the ride.  The best they can hope to do is pressure him to do something, but he'll never be under an obligation to follow it.

My remaining question is: Doesn't the board of directors still have the authority to oust him as CEO if, for whatever reason, it came to that?  Boards of directors are supposed to have a responsibility to the companies on which boards they sit, and it's supposed to transcend things like majority shareholders, personal allegiances, etc. (though I realize that in practice it doesn't work that way).  I didn't think a board of directors needed shareholder approval to fire a CEO--and yes, I realize that Michael Saylor is chairman of the board, but he's not the whole board.

Yes, this is technically true. The CEO reports to the board of directors, who have the power to fire the CEO.  However, as a super majority shareholder, nobody can get elected to the board without Saylor's say. Is it possible that if bitcoin falls below $10k, board members will go rogue and seek to fire Saylor? That's possible, however as Chairman of the Board, Saylor has the power to remove board members so he'd likely be able to ward off an attack from the board preemptively. Technically, I suppose I would classify Saylor's involuntary removal as CEO as possible but extremely unlikely. It sure would be interesting to watch a fight like that play out to see if the hypothetical possibility could actually play out in reality.
197  Economy / Economics / Re: On Cuba and economy on: July 24, 2021, 06:40:34 AM
Comments like that show how unfamiliar you are with American history. America has been attempting to undermine the autocrats in power in Cuba since the 1960s certainly, and possibly before. The embargo is part of that effort (as misplaced as it is) and the interventions have included more active means like training resistance fighters or even invading the island (Bay of Pigs). Cuba always has the backing of Russia though, so you couldn’t just go in and “liberate” the people from the government. But as far as criticizing the autocrats? Do a google search man!


Cuba's present day military is far weaker than iraq's was. Amassing guns and weapons requires capital. iraq being an oil rich nation gives it money to burn. They can buy tanks, jets and scud missiles. What natural resources does cuba have to exchange for military hardware? Aside from a very small tourism industry.

Cuba relies on the charity of communist regimes around the world to give it free stuff. And the amount of free stuff they have is far less than the military power iraq had when the united states invaded them both times.

The united states could destroy cuba's military easily. Its hard to define a reason, why that hasn't happened. Politics definitely factor in to it. Sanctions by themselves usually do not topple rogue states. There are other motives, consequences and side effects of sanctions. Which are well documented and known. But I suspect, you do not know them.

Lol, tell me more what I don't know about Cuba.  My concentration in college was cold war foreign policy. You're the same guy that's always posting conspiracy theories, so I don't know why I'd expect you to have a rational view of Cuba.  Apparently in your world, just because the US could crush a military they should?  Russia is still a huge backer of Cuba.  Cuba's economy is tied more closely to Russia than any other nation because Russia is Cuba's largest creditor, so any military intervention by America today would be almost as much of a threat to Russian interests as it would have been during the Cold War.  Cuba is still Russia's foil in the western hemisphere exactly because it's the only place Russia can support a destabilizing presence near America, which America has been doing to Russia consistently since the end of WWII.  Thinking this is just about Cuba alone is myopic and misses the larger foreign policy implications, but I've gathered that grasping a rational larger picture isn't quite your thing, as evidenced by all the posts from you tinged with conspiracy blather.
198  Economy / Economics / Re: EU wants to ban crypto anonymous transactions and wallets on: July 24, 2021, 06:26:52 AM
Same old, same old. "Money laundering and terrorism" is always used as an excuse to gain more control over the people.
But those two are a serious problem though, I mean I would gladly give away the privilege of pseudonymity if it can prevent terrorist funding and money laundering from using crypto, I think that the market would benefit more if we crypto isn't rife of these malicious or even evil activities.

Fiat is a serious problem, then, because most money laundering is carried out using cash. And don't think that abolishing cash would help either. Large amounts of electronic money are laundered via corporate networks and international transfers through tax havens.

That's why there's KYC for banks.  Transacting in large amounts of cash is an obvious sign of money laundering, and at least in the US, banks have to verify identities and also report large cash transactions to the government specifically to combat money laundering.  There are two ways this is done, through Currency Transaction Reports and Suspicious Activity Reports.  Fiat actually has a lot of regulations surrounding its use, so in analogizing crypto to fiat, you're implicitly agreeing that the same KYC efforts undertaken with cash should also apply to crypto.
199  Economy / Economics / Re: Higher Inflation Is Here to Stay for Years on: July 24, 2021, 06:15:12 AM
More people say store of value now than ever before, but my point about that would be the same.  An asset needs to have a reliably predictable and steady value to be a store of value.  Bitcoin I wouldn't say fits due to its extreme volatility.

I slightly disagree. An asset needs to have a value that doesn't go down drastically in the long term to be used as a store of value. If the value goes up in the long-term, then it is not an issue. And I don't think that stability and predictability needs to be there. If that is the case, then even gold can't be termed as a store of value. Because during the 2011-16 period, gold prices went down by 40%. If you talk about US treasury bonds, then in fiat terms the value is stable. But the returns are only around 1.1%-1.2% per year, while the current inflation rate is in the 5%-6% range.

"An asset needs to have a value that doesn't go down drastically in the long term to be used as a store of value."  If that's your criteria, there's no possibly way you can view bitcoin as a better store of value than the dollar.  The dollar depreciates very slowly and rather predictably.  Bitcoin depreciates very rapidly and without any predictability whatsoever.  There's no possible comparison between bitcoin and the USD in terms of what is a better store of value, it's unequivocally the USD.
200  Economy / Economics / Re: Not just money but oil is most important in the World on: July 24, 2021, 05:54:13 AM
Oil is the most important. Without oil, we'd have a transportation crisis. Folks will not be able to move their cars, motorcycles, trucks, trains and planes from point A to B. It would be Hell.  Without Oil, the world's electricity will be gone and people live in total blackouts. There would be food shortages worldwide because there'll be no electricity to power your refrigerator. Without the byproducts from crude oil, the world will be without the basic necessities of life, how would we manufacture paints and fertilizers, what about the plastics.

Think about it, not just money but oil is the most important thing in the world.

Oil is on it's way out.  The resources the world will fight over in the future are rare earth metals needed to make high tech devices and especially military equipment.  There are very few locations where there are good deposits, and whoever controls those will have a strategic economic and military advantage.  We're on our way to solving for a world that uses much less oil, but there currently is no way around a lack of REMs.
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