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61  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 10:55:03 PM
What's with the 1 week delay? Are you going to be mining with it during that time?

Oh yeah! extra burn in testing for the buyer :-) I'm such a nice guy.
62  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
Looks distinctly... old, scratched and used, not a nice polished surface. Maybe it's just the photos...

Have fun mining! Make sure to update with power usage.

Now you say that, I kinda see where you are coming from!

I reckon BFL held off are and still holding off sending out LOADS of miners because they themselves are mining a MAJORity of them first >.<

simple test.....
Open it up and check for dust/signs of heat marking.

If there are none, then I would suspect the bubble wrap, we have a similar problem in the China factories, we find the Bubble wrap is sometimes CRAP and will actually damage a products painted surface due to impurities in the BB wrap.....

Also certain types of poly bag has the same effect...., it depends on the paints chemistry.

The other thing is that if you ordered early it should be a 60GH/s unit.........

Yeah, I'm not the best photographer, but you nailed it. It was from the bubble wrap and the surface seamed a little porous. I was able to wipe it off with a slightly damp cloth.
63  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
That's awesome! get it up and running and let us know how she runs  Shocked

It's been running for over an hour now. Seems to be averaging out around 56+ GH/s.
Just wish I had not lent out my killowatt meter. I really need it right now.
64  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 10:41:43 PM
Congrats

Order Date?


first day ordering was opened. I made several that day for friends, family, and of course myself.

Decided to sell it on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190857744643?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

When the others come, I will be over my power budget. They were only supposed to be 60W miners; so, a few will need to go.
65  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 10:37:49 PM
Did it not ship with its own power supply?

Edit: Grats!

nop :-(
66  Bitcoin / Hardware / Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 17, 2013, 09:49:34 PM
I guess making multiple orders the first day and paying extra on shipping has paid off.
Received BFL single today and took some screen shots to share.
I'll admit that I did receive an email when it shipped from BFL asking me to share PICs and I agreed.
This has made my day. Good luck to all those still waiting. I'm still waiting for many other BFL Miners I have
ordered for friends, family, and myself.

Forgot to mention: I had lent my kill-o-watt meter to a friend so I will have to get back on that one.







Powered with two PCI-e power connectors (same as the GPUs)

Stop at Fry's on the way home to get a good power supply.



Here's the miner setup and working away. approximately 50+ GHs (average looks around 54, but
need to let it run longer to know for sure)

67  Bitcoin / Hardware / bASIC BFL Miner Development (4 Chips) on: June 16, 2013, 04:23:51 AM
Building a miner for the BFL ASIC chips.

Design will be shared with the community.

It will use 4 chips that will fit snugly underneath an off the shelf CPU FAN



The PCB will have the ability to expand to 8 chips using a customized water block.

Also, going to make a PCB with a socket similar to this for testing purposes.

Don't want to mount DUDs on a board



Plan to do all this in eagle. If you want to work on a similar design, please let me know and
we can share work. Programmers and coders neaded. This is something I do on the side and
can't pull it all off.

thanks,
   Allten





68  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: BFL Chip Credits - Buy, Sell, or Trade Here on: June 16, 2013, 01:20:22 AM
16 Credits up for auction here.

https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/39179-16-x-25-butterflylabs-chips-redeem-code

Start price is above my starting offer price so I won't Byte.

69  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] 64 Chip BFL Credit 24 hour auction on: June 16, 2013, 01:12:28 AM
Offer: $3.00 dollars / credit.

Thanks.

hope you get the deal you are looking for.
70  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: BFL Chip Credits - Buy, Sell, or Trade Here on: June 16, 2013, 12:44:10 AM
Interesting Program by BFL.

I'm currently offering $3.00 Dollars for a credit Paid in BTC.
My offering will rise over time to a maximum of $15.00
Sorry, but what do you mean by this?  That you will pay $3 (paid in BTC at market xRate) for credits now?  But you will pay more tomorrow...?

"That you will pay $3 (paid in BTC at market xRate) for credits now? " YES
"But you will pay more tomorrow...?" YES

There are some that want to liquidate ASAP. Might as well get a good deal.
If no one bites or if people stop taking my offer then tomorrow (or next weak) I'll change
my offer to $4.00.  I'll inch up over the next several weeks to $15.00.
71  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: BFL Chip Credits - Buy, Sell, or Trade Here on: June 16, 2013, 12:24:53 AM
no thanks
"no thanks" to selling chips? "no thanks" to buying chips? "no thanks" to what?
Why make a post?
72  Bitcoin / Group buys / BFL Chip Credits - Buy, Sell, or Trade Here on: June 16, 2013, 12:08:42 AM
Interesting Program by BFL.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3272-customer-appreciation-chip-credit-program.html


Have BFLC Credits and want to sell, post here with the number of credits and how much.

Want to buy BFLC Credits make a post with an offer.

Want to provide escrow, PM me with a link and I will add it to the OP.
Note: I will not vouch for any escrow service. I will list all that apply.

Current worth of BFLC Credit is $25

This is a great opportunity to support your preferred 3rd party BFL ASIC manufactures.

If you just want to get rid of your credits, please send them to mqpickens@yahoo.com

I'm currently offering $2.00 Dollars for a credit Paid in BTC.
My offering will rise over time to a maximum of $15.00

Update: Dropped the price a dollar.
Update: No longer buying. Thanks.

thanks,
     Allten


Escrow by "CanaryInTheMine"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235346.msg2491974#msg2491974



73  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 14, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
Are you writing the firmware for this project ?
Will this hardware be supported by cgminer?


I could sure use some help, that is for sure. Been too busy to get anything started.
BKKCOINS has a very identical setup and I'm hoping he won't make me reinvent the wheel, but we'll see.

-Allten
I've been following your work, and was going to chirp in about relaying a couple chips if I end up with too many, but thought I'd better wait and see what I actually get. Anyway, my firmware will be open and should work for your design with perhaps some small changes. It's just a matter of when I feel confident to release it.

If you were going to work on software you'd be better off putting energy into the cgminer driver as I stalled there when hardware started arriving and needed my attention.

Thanks BKKCoins! Appreciate your support.
Seems like Luke-JR was offering help. Can't remember for sure.
74  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 14, 2013, 02:35:27 AM
Are you writing the firmware for this project ?
Will this hardware be supported by cgminer?


I could sure use some help, that is for sure. Been too busy to get anything started.
BKKCOINS has a very identical setup and I'm hoping he won't make me reinvent the wheel, but we'll see.

-Allten
75  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 14, 2013, 01:08:33 AM
Received the stencil today.
Also, a photo of all the components. If i wasn't so order happy, there would only be two boxes :-)




I used SEEED studio express to order the PCBs
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/fusion-pcb-service-4-layers-p-1383.html?cPath=70_71

Great price, but I've never used them before. I don't know how long shipping will take, but hopefully they will come in before the Chip(s) arrive.


76  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 13, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
Here is a very simple mounting tool that I think would enable any clumsy idiot like myself to do smt mounting.

http://vpapanik.blogspot.gr/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html



Nice:-)

intron

intron,
     saw your work for a 16 AVALON ASIC in another thread. Nice work. Do you plan to sell a DIY version?
One of my goals is to get all the DIY offerings out there and do a tutorial and writeup and add it to this thread.

thanks.
77  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 10, 2013, 04:11:53 AM
With news of Sample chips coming in soon. The order for PCBs have been sent out.

There have been 10 PCBs ordered.

Here are all the files:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovyar1n32h4ktbl/BOM_A0_Build0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iukhvpdwda9zq19/Bottom%20Copper_4th_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdag2uykr0a3wdo/Ground%20Copper_2nd_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21hsn7jg3pqnv6p/Schematic_A0_Build0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/58o3exjfhar7ivv/Silk_Top_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d7xdxafymo7j5p1/Solder%20Mask%20Bottom_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hodef47o7i7quv1/Solder%20Mask%20Top_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ksntsswkzwlltj/Supply%20Copper_3rd_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/npsdh1u5zle9l77/Top%20Copper_1st_A0.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8rr6solxp05x1wr/Top%20Solder%20Paste_A0.pdf

Sounds like the competition for the sample chips is tight. Hopefully a few make it my way.

Thanks,
     Allten


78  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bad News: Avalon ASIC Samples shipped, BUT... on: June 09, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
Very disappointing indeed.

If there's room for just one to come my way. I would really appreciate it.

thanks,
   Allten
79  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL rewarding Jalapeno orders at the expense of LS/S/MR orders on: June 06, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
*Sigh* so once again, if some redneck in Arkansas orders a singing fish off Amazon, and they're currently backordered, does Amazon halt shipping on all orders, until Bubba's singin' fish comes back in stock? You know, so that it's "fair"?

People do not stand to lose money in that situation. This is completely different. Also, BFL said they would ship all product lines at the same time so there would not be unfair advantage. See this post: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3092-latest-news-jalapenos-shipping-en-mass-now-ls-s-mr-boards-done-shipping-soon-5.html#post38652


Quote from: dave3;38652
Well, originally they had planned to ship all of the various products at the same time, and build up a large supply to ship out all at once, and not just let a few trickle out here and there.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139375.msg1109145#msg1109145
Quote
Right now, we plan on shipping a mix of all three types of units and yes, 1/3 from each amount we plan on shipping. Each class of mining hardware will be treated on it's own 1/3's balance sheet, not all lumped together. Does that make sense?

As far as what's "early" and what's "late" is going to depend on how many units we ship in the first batch. Like I said, we do not want to ship out just a handful of orders in the first batch and trickle them out. We want to ship a large quantity in the first batch.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139375.msg1108821#msg1108821
Quote
No, what I don't want to happen is that we ship out a handful of units here, a handful of units there, and those units that get sent out first give the first deliverables a huge advantage and pump the difficulty. We want to have all the participants lined up and released at the same time, so no one has a marked advantage. I don't mean we are going to send out minirigs or probably even singles to anyone. We would send out the a Jalapeno to a few individuals that are trusted by the community to evaluate and report back that yes, they in fact do what's claimed and it's not a big scam. Frankly, I am really boggled by the fact that people are seriously complaining that we are trying to be open with the performance of the product and send it to people that have no vested interest in BFL conducting a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102040.msg1179157#msg1179157
Quote
BFL has said that units of all types will come out at about the same time.
Quote
This is correct.

But I understand things don't always work out as planned.  Still, I'm hoping things will work out to be as fair as possible given the circumstances.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102040.msg1205251#msg1205251
Quote
We have absolutely no plans to raise the price after the pre-order phase. I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where we would do that.

TL;DR: read the bold part.

There was a lot that happened that they didn't want to happen. Things were delayed WAY more than they intended. Back during the BFL pre-order days, they were they only game in town, so shipping out ASIC units to a few people would have really skewed the market. Well, nothing went as anticipated, and now there are MANY ASICs out in the wild, already driving difficulty.

Things definitely went badly for BFL's plans, but we're to the point where we're talking about what's best for them to do NOW. No doubt things were handled poorly on their part. Their only chance at this point, to make things right, is to get as much hardware to as many customers as they can. They didn't anticipate requiring twice as many chips on their machines (hence not anticipating a cost increase). They didn't anticipate being delayed to the point where other ASIC developers beat them to market, they didn't anticipate the higher-density solutions giving them so much more trouble in development, they didn't anticipate missing the mark on power consumption, etc, etc. We all agree they did a poor job in planing things. And were way more optimistic about things than they realistically ought to have been.

But the question is what is the best course of action from this point? I think they're taking the best course of action that they can, with how totally off the mark current reality is from their original vision.

Best course of action? Regarding the OP, it is simple really. Give customers the option to change their orders to jalepenos while maintaining their place in line.

I had ordered several jalapenos but then I was reassured by BFL staff that the bigger stuff was shipping at the same time and they gave an option to Upgrade.
That was several months ago.
Well, now give us an option to downgrade. Seems like a no brainier.

They are probably too stressed out to try to do any thing for their customers other than just shove product out the
door with little regard to the issue in the OP.
The fact they "appear" to still be holding things together and trying to get product to customers is really amazing. I'll give 'em that.
80  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON: "The Quarter Stick" on: June 06, 2013, 01:56:35 AM
Project update:

So, I don't follow the threads as closely as I used too. Any Avalon sample chips available out there yet?

The PCB is pretty much finished other than a few more tweaks here and there maybe and some adjustments on the top silk layer. I haven't pulled the trigger yet on a PCB order because I would like feedback if there is any expertise out there. The design definitely wouldn't be where it is today without some of the suggestions and feedback I've received (mostly by email).

Here are all the project files to date:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lyy10slcozxyj5/BOM_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/58focv6zya53201/Bottom_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e7r37t8n1vrwe3/Bottom_Solder%20Mask_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f298d04phfdohlq/Ground_2nd_Layer_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tod2bgwhj8vgue8/Power_3rd_Layer_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqp5qfkzt3eetz9/Schematic_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w568igkyw737boq/Top%20Solder%20Mask_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubruz6z78ghhsf4/Top-Copper_June4_2013.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvuxcov9j8eiy2u/TopSilkScreen_Soldermask_June4_2013.pdf


As soon as I get wind of the Avalon chips shipping then i will rush the order on this ASAP. Hopefully, if there are any bugs left, we can catch it before then.

I have two Avalon samples committed to this project. Big thank you to SebastianJu.

I'm still looking for 8 more Sample chip donations that ship before the bulk orders do.
I plan on a initial order of 10 boards. If you have made a bulk chip order, please
consider a few Sample chips donation this way.
Thanks.
One thing I noticed on your schematic rev 0.3 R12 connected to lead 7 on the ASIC this part should be a magnetic bead it's an inductor. The one used on the Avalon board has 30 ohm resistance at 100MHZ it's probably .2 or .3 ohm at DC.

Good Catch! thanks. I could not figure out what those "MB" resistors were all about. I guess I should have checked the BOM after they updated it.

I'm currently looking at this part:
http://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/MU1005-300Y/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtoiMfofRG0LbhzMfk9mut9DLkB8NWOFVo%3d

what do you think?


Sorry I gave you the wrong specification for the Avalon board it is 60 ohm at 100MHZ.  I would go with something 60 to 200 ohm at 100MHZ. Also I would consider using a Schmitt trigger buffer on the report n and report p because they are wire OR and the rising edge is slow. This will only be a problem when both report signals go high at the same time (idle) it might cause the NOR gate to send several clock pulses. You might be able to work around this in software because the nonce should have all ready been transferred when the ASIC goes idle. The communications protocol information was a little sparse so this could be wrong.

Thanks for the correction.
This one should work fine:
http://au.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ABRACON/ACML-0402H-750-T/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtoiMfofRG0LSMefMivMbzvCYz%252b0wYmZAM%3d

The serial clock input to the PIC should be Schmitt trigger. Hopefully, with the RC delay setup, any potential spikes coming out of the NOR gate will not be seen by the PIC.
What do you think? It is one aspect of the design i do worry about a little. Won't really know how good of a solution we have until we get to try it out.

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