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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TENEBRIX CODE BOUNTY on: October 14, 2011, 01:05:36 PM
Well, that seems smart.

Since I'm not a coder, "a-la namecoin" should be interpreted as "really thoroughly destroyed, those coins should be", not "implement it specifically as in namecoin" (other tricks are fine, as long as it works as described above).

So yes, "sending" them to a special-cased bullshit address such as DevNull0DevNull0DevNull0DevNull0000000 might be  an option.


 
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TENEBRIX CODE BOUNTY on: October 14, 2011, 08:29:35 AM
Edited for clarification
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TENEBRIX CODE BOUNTY on: October 14, 2011, 07:51:12 AM
so when you send 0.2 as fee, 0.1 being the minimum fee, would then the tip be 0.1 and 0.1 be destroyed?

Exactly!
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should there be a Litecoin exchange? on: October 14, 2011, 07:49:26 AM
Actually, thanks to a little help from a benefactor who would rather remain anonymous, BTC-E will open both a Fairbrix/BTC and an LTC/BTC exchange

Sadly, they have so far declined to consider direct speculation between LTC, FBX, and TBX Sad LTC/TBX and LTC/FBX would have been some serious fun
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE][BOUNTY] First Tenebrix Service bounty - a Tenebrix Poker Room on: October 14, 2011, 12:20:45 AM
$60s a little low.

Well, Coinbuck's almost done. I'd just like to get some official confirmation and as soon as he greenlights, the bounty's closed (payouts shall occur when terrytibs solves the new website's bounty section issue, to avoid giving grief to auto-watch crowd by accident)
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [ANNOUNCE] TENEBRIX CODE BOUNTY on: October 14, 2011, 12:19:07 AM
Okay, the first TBX code bounty isn't very horribly sophisticated, and the reward will be equivalent of 25 BTCs in TBX @ moment of completion (just so that dear programming types don't worry that much about TBX value fluctuations, a concern some candidates have expressed)

What I want is to slightly tweak fee system so that it becomes a mild deflationary influence. This is one of several upcoming tweaks that introduce deflationary influences (perhaps not strong ones, but combined they will amount to something)  to TBX without cutting subsidies or involving any form of demurrage, since deflation folks are giving  a fascinating ammount of sustained grief (they even found my reg email, somehow  Angry ), and after a while I decided that if someone wants "deflashun" so bad, I may as well find ways to give it to him without compromising core commitments of TBX (such as no subsidy decrease and no demurrage)

The gist is as follows:

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Basically, currently both mandatory and "speed me up" transaction fees are being sent to the miner.

In a setting where miners will never switch to "feed on fee" model, the fees play only two roles - discourage spam in the chain and "bribe" the miner to process your tx faster (a very "down the line" issue when the net is teeming with them tx'es)

My idea is to basically impose a rule that says that "if currently set fee for a transaction is  2*(minimum mandatory fee for this transaction) or more, BUT no less than X, then it is a TIP.

Tips are sent to the miner and thus normal "miner bribe" stuff applies"

Meanwhile, if fee for a transaction is less than X and/or less than  2*(minimum mandatory fee for this transaction), then it's a fee and it gets destroyed a-la namecoin coin destruction.

Thus, we still can "tip" the miners (with certain minimum for a tip being  X ), but usual "mandatory-antispam" fees are burned, thus creating an additional deflationary effect without "offending" miners or disrupting user's normal coin hoarding inclinations.

In case both a tip and a fee are present (minimum mandatory fee is 0.1, X=0.2, user sets his fee to 0.2), the "minimum transaction fee" is burned and the remaining part is used as "tip" to the miner (if minimum transaction fee is 0.1, X value is 0.2 and user has set his fee to 0.2, 0.1 is burned and the remaining 0.1 is used as fee)


Fee-burning would be best made  network-mandatory for mandatory fees (that is, blocks that contain TXes that don not include a burned fee but  SHOULD have included a burned "minimum transaction fee" per "minimum fees" rules would be best rejected by well-behaving nodes.

edit:
Also, it would be nice for an option that would enable a user to knowingly make a transaction that would burn a specified number of coins to be added.

The mechanism should be ready for deployment at "block N", and should be implemented in a manner that only requires 51% of miners to upgrade (and not all clients), and generally care should be taken to minimize the disruption those who fail to upgrade in time could cause.

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Art Forz has reviewed this proposal for "general sanity" and will review submissions. The implementation that is found to have no flaws as per ArtForz's assesment, and/or the first to correct any flaws found, shall receive the bounty.

More (tiny but distinctly deflationary) tweaks to come.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE][BOUNTY] First Tenebrix Service bounty - a Tenebrix Poker Room on: October 13, 2011, 11:56:23 PM
coinbuck, hey hey hey - how's it going ?
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE][BOUNTY] Second Tenebrix Service bounty - a Tenebrix Ponzi "Game" on: October 13, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Okay, guys, let me know when it's in working order
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTCBTC OTC Forum Exchange Thread on: October 13, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
WTF, terry's been always nice and helpful...wtf?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: October 13, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
Second pool coming
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoin will succeed ? on: October 13, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
Define success

Also, I like Fairbrix on a conceptual level somewhat more than LTC due to lack of the (empirically unstudied) subsidy halving shenanigan.

You know, there already is a cryptothingie with that (fairly unconventional as far as majority of non-antique assets go) model, and it's called bitcoin.

You know you've been mining Litecoin like a fiend.   Grin

My only really CPU-mineworthy rig is currently quite too occupied with VMs and work-stuff for me to mine anything, even TBX
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoin will succeed ? on: October 13, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
Define success

Also, I like Fairbrix on a conceptual level somewhat more than LTC due to lack of the (empirically unstudied) subsidy halving shenanigan.

You know, there already is a cryptothingie with that (fairly unconventional as far as majority of non-antique assets go) model, and it's called bitcoin.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin Now officially most secure p2p currency on: October 13, 2011, 02:13:16 PM
**Preface I think DBX is full of shit**
Assuming DBX DDOS'ed even one of these servers I hope and will support seeing her behind bars I don't care if it is against TBX,FBX,SC,BTC,I0,IX,LC,etc. she deserves jail time for it, and DDOS attacks against online computer resources are illegal and it won't be hard to track her down either even with all the lies she tells on this forum about her identity and affiliations.

Wait, BTCex's a girl ?
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin Now officially most secure p2p currency on: October 13, 2011, 12:45:43 PM
^^ Ha ha. Good luck with "legull acshun"

Go back to launder money and post on your shitbrix threads

One day the US will tame your pet dictator and then you'll now what legal "achsun" is. And it will be a nigger called Bubba who will teach it to you Wink


Cool story, bro
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin Now officially most secure p2p currency on: October 13, 2011, 11:47:13 AM
^^ Ha ha. Good luck with "legull acshun"
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where is the latest, Windows 64 bit/Intel-optimized Scrypt miner binary? on: October 13, 2011, 11:46:31 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45667.msg570003#msg570003
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: October 13, 2011, 11:33:08 AM
new minerd sped-up and slowed down some of my PC's

we need a 64bit intel miner PLEAAAAAAAAASE!

Miners in twobits-pack have 64 bit optimizations (just not obvious). Ask him for details.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where is the latest, Windows 64 bit/Intel-optimized Scrypt miner binary? on: October 13, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
I saw it on the Tenebrix thread, but didn't find windows binaries.
I'm mining Litecoin of course, I assume the same miner works for both.

If I need to configure it somehow, can someone please explain how?

Use twobits-pack.

It has 64 bit optimizations (kinky-cool ones, ask twobits for details)
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC Releases his 'white paper', hilarity ensues on: October 13, 2011, 01:06:37 AM
Actually, lottery based (re?)distribution seems like a fun idea.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE][BOUNTY] Second Tenebrix Service bounty - a Tenebrix Ponzi "Game" on: October 13, 2011, 12:55:50 AM
Only another 7700 bounties and you'll have used up the premined fund.

Obviously that ignores the 2 million (or was it 3 million) set aside to be released 50 at a time for the conduit - ony 4000 or 6000 releases before that's gone too.

What is "50 at a time by a conduit", dude ?

Don't make me look up the URL.  There was some conduit where you moved to a seperate account 2 or 3 million TBX and were releasing them to the conduit 50 at a time - so only 4000 (if it was 2 million) or 6000 (if it wasd 3 million) transfers needed to use up the escrowed coins (using the term escrow very loosely).

Conduit?

You mean faucet amrite? Well I pledged two mils to the faucet, and community approved. BTW, the faucet of course doesn't give out all 500 coins it gets in a batch to the same client lol.

P.S.:
English not your native language, right ?
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