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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think casinos can stop demanding KYC? on: May 05, 2024, 10:25:01 PM
Casinos existed without the need for KYC's until the government made it a requirement, and they started demanding it. IMO If the government no longer requires casinos to do KYC verification for new gamblers, casinos will go ahead and still do KYC verifications because they have seen the benefits of knowing their customers better than when they just allowed people to come onto their platform and gamble without their knowledge of who they were. What do you think? Do you think some casino's will revert back to non-KYC and allow money launderers, plus other fraudulent people have their easy way with them as a way to attract customers, or since they recognize the personal benefits of KYC to their casino, will continue demanding it even if it affects their customers?

Well it's very different now, before we never thought of this kind of things, I mean crypto was invented or at least Bitcoin by Satoshi as a payment scheme, you can't read anything about money launderers and others that will take advantage of his invention to be used other done what he designed it to be.

And when criminals found out that they can wash their money in gambling sites, so gambling platform uses like you have to bet x amount before you can withdraw or a betting requirements. But still, it's not enough and so enter the financial regulators.

I also think now that gamblers have accepted this fact already that most online gambling platforms will demand KYC and I don't think that they will revert back to non-KYC as they could cease operations once regulators find it out.
62  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship on: May 05, 2024, 10:03:49 PM
Unfortunately, Artur Beterbiev is once again injured and this fight will be postponed. The rest of the card, which is the 5 v 5 Matchroom vs Queensberry event will still go on. It is still a good card headlined by Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang but its still a disappointment that one of the most anticipated fights in recent history will not be happening.

Beterbiev is no stranger to injury. Many of his fights have been postponed due to injury. This is why he has so few fights for a 39 year old.

I've just read the news. What a bummer.
But yeah, the Wilder Vs Zhang is a good fight on its own to be elevated to the main event. To be fair, it seemed a bit odd that it was on the undercard.

I read that the injury will put Artur off till at least September, which is a long time. He needs time for the knee to heal properly, rehabilitation, and another preparation camp.
This could mean we might not see the fight until very late in the year.

If the fight is indeed "postponed", as the media report (and not just cancelled), then I don't think Bivol would be allowed to fight anyone else before then. The whole purpose of it is for the winner to "take it all", so if Bivol was to fight someone else and lost, he wouldn't be putting anything on the line.

Good thing the card is still going on even without the original main event. It's just sad that sometimes injuries happen. The more this fight is delayed the more chances of Beterbiev declining because of his age. It is also annoying for the part of Bivol. I wonder if he gets another fight or just wait for Beterbiev's recovery. The money is also too big for Bivol to risk fighting another name.

And he is going to be prone to injuries as he age, so it's not going to help Beterbiev with this injuries and then he has to recover for months without any activity as the affected part is his knees and he could be back but not the same anymore.

Looking at the odds, Zhang is the slight favorite over Wilder. Both carries a huge punch but Zhang is not fast so maybe Wilder has a good chance here. Except that Zhang has a granite chin while Wilder isn't. I think Zhang has never tasted the canvass in his pro career.

And I also see the power of the Bronze Bomber also declining, and he needs to be in his best shape because Zhang defense is underrated and it's hard to clip him. And as you have said, solid chin and also has power. And so it's more on Wilder's shoulder to win here so that he can still have money fight with AJ. Otherwise a lost will strike his name out from the Saudis.
63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Canelo Alvarez - Jaime Munguia May 4 Super Middleweight Championship on: May 05, 2024, 09:43:20 PM
Canelo with another spectacular performance. He may not be the same Canelo a few years ago but his experience, ring IQ and skills are too much for the young hungry Mungia. I did not thought Canelo can put down Mungia who's chin is already proven after so many battles. I believe that was the first time Mungia was put down in his pro career.

Yeah, it was the experienced of Canelo was the big difference here, but let's give props to the kid, he did good as compare to others to fought Canelo before. It was the the first time that we see Munguia in the canvass, he still had good chin though, able to recover from that flash knock down and finished the fight.

What's next for Canelo? It'll be unclear since he still has a lot of options. This fight is his last with PBC so I doubt he will ever face Benavidez. I expect Canelo to sign with Eddie. Canelo might pick easier fights like Berlanga, Jermall or Crawford.

I think it will be Berlanga next for Canelo this year and most likely this September. But not sure why Caleb Plant is confronting Berlanga and starting to beef with him. Similar to how he goes to the gym of the Benavidez before.

Overall good performance by Canelo and he is still not on the sunset of his career as most of us thought that he could not pull the trigger anymore.
64  Economy / Economics / Re: The role of private sector involvement in Economic growth on: May 04, 2024, 09:43:38 PM
he has created wealth to his employees by way of paying them salaries which in turn translate to economic growth
This is a reason why it is important for employers to pay their employees well because it is a contribution to the economic growth. If employees earn well, they will have more to spend, and other business owners that they patronize will have more to either pay their own employees well or to spend on other businesses.
It becomes a cycle where everyone earns well, everyone is happy, crime rate reduces, and the economy improves.


But the business should be huge though, to employed a lot of youth from their population for the jobs and others. And to give a good example though and I'm not condoning it although I'm a gambler as well, is Macau, which majority of their population are into this business and this is the main source of their GDP.

I do agree that private sector plays a role, but they can only do that much and sometimes, there could also be some resistance from the government to this private sector because they know they could be affected. Like in my country, there are billionaires here who wanted to build roads and infrastructure, but some government officials are blocking it and I'm hinting that they could be affected negatively because there could be no corruption money for them.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship on: May 04, 2024, 02:49:11 PM

4 months of waiting, that's a long wait. Though we can't blame him for that but its an opportunity for the fans to see a big fight and now it's gone. Well, I just hope he'll heal at that estimated time so the fight could still happen as I'm sure Bivol is not happy for waiting longer since time is very important at the level of his career which he is on his prime.

Yes, 4 months is too long and we might see Bivol fighting other boxers in that span and then winning and defending his belt. So we will see, but I think they can find replacement for Beterbiev as there are a lot of SMW-LH boxers who may want to crack at Bivol.

I do love the Benavidez vs Bivol fight scenario, there are videos of David going into Las Vegas and going to watch the fight of Munguia vs Canelo and maybe after the fight and if Canelo wins, he might go up in the boxing ring and confront Canelo. So there's a lot of drama in that fight and for sure fans are going to wait for it.

That depends on the agreement of Bivol and Beterbiev, if Bivol would approve the postponement of fight due to the valid reason, then he will wait for that span of time and if no fight will be realize after that, then that's the time he will find a new opponent so he could be active. Hopefully someone that is as good as Beterbiev so people will be interesting in watching the fight.

if Benavidez is willing, I think it's still a good one as he is still undefeated, great match up but I might take Bivol if that will happen.

I think Bivol can choose to fight and don't need to wait for Beterbiev to heal as it is months and you don't want to be inactive that long. Bivol can get a busy fight, and fight lesser opponents, or just look for huge fight to defend his belt.

Bivol is the slight favorite in this fight already, and the more time it take for this fight to happen the better for him as Beterbiev might aged over night.

And probably HE Turki Alalshikh can broker another fight for Bivol and save this 5 on 5 event.
66  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC go back to $40K - $30K range before a bigger rally? on: May 04, 2024, 02:21:18 PM
No, I don't see Bitcoin dip to $40K - $30K range before any price rally, currently price might  pump a little before dropping to $50k. Then I can anticipate a pump though we can't really predict for now, we just accumulate more and allow the market do it thing. But price will not dip to that range OP.

Lowest we got is $57,000 if I'm not mistaken. Now the market has bounce back to $63,000-$64,000, and with that, I think that we might be on for something big with this kind of movement specially right after the halving.

But for me, sometimes it's good to see that even in a bull run, price will have to go down and then as traders, it's up to us whether we get nervous push the panic button or decided to be a diamond hand, just continue to buy and accumulate and HODL, it's our choice.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20 on: May 04, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
I speculated that it's either Ryan,

a. Knows that he is taking PEDS
b. Doesn't know that he is taking PEDS
c. Doesn't know, but he did take contaminated supplements that's why he tested positive

And we all know that Ryan is good for business in boxing and this could flew under the radar and be quiet about it. But there could be someone that break this news to someone that's why it become so big right now.
68  Economy / Gambling / Re: TonPoker - Telegram Poker Room on: May 04, 2024, 01:44:55 PM

Yeah, same here, although I have seen some telegram casinos and it seems that this is the new trend? However, as maybe I will call myself a old school gamblers, I have played on a telegram casinos that have their desktop version.

But as what others have pointed out, it seems though that the exchange rate is not that fair and this could be a give away already that not many will play on this telegram casino because of this discrepancies.

For me personally, I prefer to play the games on the PC, in the desktop version, but since Telgeram has its desktop version, I imagine that you can also play there by downloading the version on Windows or any OS, however when it comes to Telegram Well, there is not so much restriction due to its high encryption, because Peroans everywhere can open a telegram, talk in private mode and nothing happens, so I imagine that the version of any casino must provide some privacy, I don't think it is They can put some laws in there, although SEO has to be done from a country due to the issue of licenses, it is what I believe is the most convenient thing to do.

If there is a desktop version, for sure I will try it as well, but if it's pure Telegram, kinda small screen so yeah, I might skip that casino for good. Doesn't matter though if there is high encryption, not against it but sooner or later this cyber groups might have found a loophole to exploit.

And just like the majority, we like to see games being played in our screen for better view and better experience. Specially for me who have been playing on traditional land base casinos for many years but trying to adjust on online games in desktop mode.
69  Economy / Gambling / Re: MetaWin.com | The First WEB3 Casino on: May 04, 2024, 12:14:06 AM
Yoooo @Kemarit, rocky is going to premier league hahaha



If they're going this far for rocky, wonder what promotions will be when they actually release their sportsbook and $MWIN, food for thought lol

Out of curiousity, does anyone know an estimate range cost for this type of sponsorship? 🤔

Damn, one of the biggest sporting league,  Smiley

For sponsorship? it could be free for all we know  Wink as Metawin is really supporting crypto, and it could be a win win situation for them. And they are teasing everyone for what Cyber Truck colors they wanted.

Opening a sportsbook will be huge for MetaWin, lot of gamblers here are into sportbooks, from football to basketball to any contact sports. So let's wait for the listing.
70  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Nery For Undisputed 122lbs Title - May on: May 03, 2024, 11:55:00 PM
Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.
Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.
And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

No he could be very small at 147 lbs, natural welterweight are big guys around 5'9 in height and walks around 150 lbs off-season. So that will be too much for his frame. But then again, we have Manny, but he was like a gem, like a fighter that we will see once in like 50 years, very special fighter.

But we love to see him test the featherweight division next with fighters like Rey Vargas, tall with decent power and see how Inoue will strategized and fight that kind of boxer because I think it will be his first time to fight a taller guy with this kind of frame.
71  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 03, 2024, 11:35:20 PM
^^ And this is what Ryan has to say against McGregor,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1786462011968369115

Are we going to see Conor vs Ryan in the future?  Grin for the biggest cross-over fight? UFC vs Boxer?

Funny thing is, everyone is jumping on the bandwagon including one of the biggest UFC superstar during his prime, LOL. Ryan denied it already, so for now let's give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he submitted again and failed then maybe there is truth on it.

72  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20 on: May 03, 2024, 11:12:52 PM
Not defending Ryan, but let's put it this way, a boxer was also found to be positive but he didn't win the fight, Michel Rivera suspended six months, fined 15% of purse for failed drug test.

So there is an argument that even if you uses Peds, it will not help you win a fight as the example above. Ryan doesn't look jack at all with all this Peds accusations though. So this remains to be seen and the timing of the released of this news, when everyone was celebrating Ryan's victory, they try to destroy and discredit it by some entities.

After the break out of the news, Ryan became a hot topic and had so much criticism, that those so-called experts even asked to make the fight a no-contest, these are the same people who predicted that Ryan would be overwhelmed by Haney and beat him.
Ryan denies it

Quote
“Why in the world would I volunteer for a drug test if I planned on taking drugs?

“Make it make sense?” Garcia concluded.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-protests-innocence-following-failed-drug-tests--183248

We all thought that this was over after Ryan upset Haney there's too much drama going on in the fight and the drama still continues and it's more controversial now.

Yes, it really doesn't make any sense, but as you have said, it added another layer of drama and now it's all over the media again and the Haney's are branding Ryan Garcia as cheater. But let's see how the B-sample will turn out to be, if I'm not mistaken, he has to request from VADA to take another sample from him and tested it again.

Ryan deny it though obviously, but let's see, this test has been there for a reason but there are a lot of boxers who tested positive in the beginning, but there's out to be a false positive. This is not the first time that we have heard someone getting "caught" after the fight. But with the magnitude and the hype before and after, it will sure drag the story again and again.
73  Economy / Economics / Re: Production of goods and services as an economic stimulant i on: May 03, 2024, 10:52:23 PM
bigger countries with technological know-how are not sharing the technology with them though. we were so keen on fighting to "end hunger" or to make peace not war. but making the lives of others easy seem not really what they provide.

some countries dont even have a clean water supply but when Mr. Beast helped them develop hundreds of deep wells, he was canceled for doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58DqVM2Y5C0

for them to help themselves, they need the basic necessities but bigger countries seem preventing them in becoming economically independent.

True, unfortunately, that is the case, they wanted to no help, but obviously countries like Nigeria who doesn't have even a tap water to drink and someone wanted to help them were being shut down the minute the government feels threaten by the outsiders.

So it's very hard to solve their problems, unless the people inside the government will change for good. But officials are corrupt as hell and only wanted that position and take advantage to make money. This is not only in Nigeria though, in Asia as well this is like a "norm". But Africa is worst, bad governance, corruption and other factors contributed to the continents continue decline.
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: No gambling today due to bitcoin high transaction fee. on: May 03, 2024, 10:32:54 PM
It's good to see that bitcoin transaction fees have fallen and returned to normal. This allows gamblers to return to gambling using bitcoin again.
I can send some satoshis to my gambling account to gamble again and hope there is no increase shortly. But gamblers can still use altcoins or stable coins if they feel comfortable with their choice.
But for those who like to gamble using bitcoin, it's time to get back to gambling again. But be careful when gambling because we don't know when we will win.

Yes, at the current fastest rate of 15 sats/vB I think everyone is glad to see the transaction fee normalized and we back to using our precious BTC again. And at least we have been tested by whatever the reasons for the sudden surge in the fees and we all pass it.

I think everyone knows what gambling is, some of us have been in the Bitcoin gambling for so long.

And also for sure online crypto based are very happy to see the fees going down, so it's a win-win situation for us and for them.
75  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will the real bull run begin? on: May 03, 2024, 10:18:40 PM
I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

for me before you hold bitcoin you have to check if the market of Bitcoin is going up or is falling before you hold, sometimes people hold bitcoin base on the time they purchase bitcoin, my advice is that when you want to invest in bitcoin make sure that you invest when the price is low and you can decide to hold until you make a surplus profit for bitcoin you are holding, people who is new in Bitcoin don't like to hold for long time

No, you just buy and HODL regardless of the price, that's how long term investors are doing. They don't look at the price because their mindset is that they are going to accumulate more many years whether the price is very high or it is low.

That's why they are called diamond hand, because they are not affected by the price itself. All they do is go on years after years to buy. Even if you are just average joe like the rest of us, you can used this strategy for good and it has not flaws whatsoever. Even if you have small money to begin with, you can start with this strategy.
76  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 18th MAY 2024 re-scheduled on: May 02, 2024, 11:20:20 PM
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He said he took it serious both before and after the fight, but we all know we can't believe what he says given he lies so much, but there's also the possibility that he's just not as good as we thought he was. I guess this Usyk fight really is going to be the litmus test because there's no sleepwalking into this fight out of shape as Usyk will dismantle him and if Tyson loses then he's lost to a 'jumped up middleweight' in his own words.

Does he lie a lot though? I always considered Fury to be one of the most honest in the boxing world and speaking his mind. The fact that he wasn't making any excuses after the Ngannou fight somewhat proves that.

Excuses are only for those who losses the fight, and obviously he still emerge victories with the help of the judges. And he might have said that right after the fight and we don't know behind close doors if he is trying very hard for Francis or no.

But here he shouldn't underestimate Usyk, he knows what's at stake in this fight. He should come in here in the best shape of his fighting career. Otherwise, if he is caught sleeping again like in the Ngannou fight, Usyk will take advantage of it and going to dominate him.

77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Canelo Alvarez - Jaime Munguia May 4 Super Middleweight Championship on: May 02, 2024, 11:00:22 PM
It's getting personal now between Oscar DeLa Hoya and Canelo Alvarez the two almost come to a blow after Oscar disrespected Canelo for telling people it was The Golden Boy Promotion that he headed that created Canelo and telling everybody about Canelo's two failed doping tests.

Check the video here this has become ugly and we will see more thrash talks and disrespecting words before and after the fight

Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya separated at a press conference

Oscar is right that Canelo became a massive star under the Golden Boy banner, but Canelo was also carrying Golden Boy for many years when most of their best fighters left and Canelo was their only cash cow. It was a mutually beneficial situation, even though both sides are too proud to admit that and just want to take all the credit for themselves. They are putting their egos ahead of acting like professionals. Instead of promoting this fight they are more interested in trying to discredit each other and it’s not a very good look. Munguia is just a background actor in this whole drama.

Yeah, I think Oscar is overshadowing Munguia here, he shouldn't make that disrespectful comments in the press conference as he has bring those old fued between him and Canelo and it shouldn't be the center of the discussion. It should be how his boy Munguia will beat Canelo.

Anyhow, he had said it already, Canelo got irritated, and if you understand a little bit of Spanish, you will understand what he said in the background hehehe. But let's see if this kind of promotion will backfire on Oscar, or if it will make this fight more interesting for fight fans.

Canelo is pissed off I think he is more pissed off at Oscar than all the fighters he faced and I believe Canelo will pour his anger on Munguia because of Oscar's antics, Oscar is always taking away the spotlight on his fighters
but when his fighters lose, he is nowhere to be found, just like when Ryan loses to Tank.
Let's see where he will be after Munguia loses to Canelo, but if Munguia upsets Canelo, I'm sure Oscar and Bernard will be everywhere for an interview.

And that will be bad for Jaime Munguia as he will vent all his anger and frustrations and all the trash talking of Oscar to him and maybe we will see a knockout victory for Canelo here. Just like what he did after that Ryan win, although today it's been question because of the PEDS allegations.

So we will see, Oscar put the stakes so high right now with Munguia and somewhat pressure him to perform his best because he has pissed Canelo. And also this is a good gauge if the old but reliable coach Freddie Roach has still has it to train a young fighter and develop him to be one of the best, just like when he guided Manny Pacquaio into greatness.
78  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next movement of Bitcoin. Let's share everything you can about Bitcoin. on: May 02, 2024, 10:36:27 PM
OP is either hurting or feeling his mistake on getting into Meme and $hitcoins...or both!

Its standard that the replies to such a question are varied and will be after my post because
nobody can tell what happens in the future.

We have a general long term view or expectation for Bitcoin for the future which is up
but for short term anything is possible.

Meme and $hitcoins expect + or - 100x

True mate, and then there is also the element of luck, when you 'invest' in this shitcoin and meme coins. Remember when I met my aunt, we haven't seen for many years and then when I told here I was into crypto, he said that he invested $1000 on meme coins and my cousins his laughing (his son), but of where his mom put that money (although I know that they can afford to lose that kind of money).

Nevertheless I advises her not to invest on shit or meme coins because it's purely for pump and dump and very volatile. But instead go for where your money will slowly grow, and that is in BTC and it's already proven to us since the beginning and that formula is foolproof.
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are online/crypto casinos the most profitable digital business? on: May 02, 2024, 10:00:36 PM

Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?

It could be, gambling whether online or offline, is already a billion dollar business.

You just have to look at this forum and see that there are casinos born maybe every month as a business to at least get a piece of that big pie, just a slice and it will be more than enough to make money.

As compare to let's say a crypto exchange, there could be traders around, but it takes skills and technical know how just to make a decent money. Unlike in gambling wherein, some individual from Asia to Africa started to create an account to a online casino and then deposit crypto and starts to play, easy like that and then you have one customer, one potential customer that can get addicted.
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Buy a Bonus VS playing Slot on normal Spin - which do you prefer? on: May 02, 2024, 09:33:38 PM
Hi gamblers,

So, I am here to ask, buying a bonus and playing on normal spins in slot game, which so far, has been more profitable for or to you?

It will only be profitable if you're lucky to get the buy bonus and win. Because there is no guarantee as slot is luck base. So for me, I might as well go for a normal spin and see if I will get the bonus or not. At least I will be enjoying this way, although I don't have anything about those gamblers who chooses to go and uses buy bonus because it's a feature that could work for them.

But the end of it all we all know with RTP, everything is still base on luck regardless if you won and get a normal spin bonus with 10 spins or a buy bonus with 20 spins.
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