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601  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dont play at satoshibet.com - You will lose your money . :D on: September 24, 2015, 06:08:43 PM
LOL, what is wrong with you guys. Tongue

A bad streak and site is scam?  Roll Eyes

They are just a kid that is not ready to part with their btc because they lose in gamble. This is stupid that everyone think that gambling is money machine that will make you rich and you will not lose, pathetic  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Hahaha yeah, that's why gambling is only for 18+ adults, not for kids, if casinos give money , no one will run casinos, and normal people should know casinos have house edges, which help casinos make profits in long term.

For kinds like OP, if don't trust online casinos, go to local real casinos, and if lost in a streak, don't shout loudly in casino, or security will kick the, out. Cheesy Grin
602  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is betsoft blackjack rigged? on: September 24, 2015, 05:56:42 PM
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

This is so stupid...because you won 3btc suddenly its fair when you questioned it in the first place. Where are you able to bet 3btc on the betsoft single deck game because where I've seen it the limits are 1-100mbtc. I've never seen anywhere that has high limits on this game.  

I've been playing this alot lately and I'm really starting to question myself if its legit. Being single deck with decent rules to the player the house edge is a mere .33% yet somehow playing perfect basic strategy I'm down several BTC and remember the limits are only 100mbtc maximum bet. I mostly bet in the 5-20 chip range. Now I don't always lose I do come out ahead on some sessions but it goes into some beast modes where you won't make any hands and when you do dealer will always draw out to 20-21 and have many blackjacks.

I'm done playing anymore Betsoft table games because I suspect somethings not right and it rigs the deal. I've been playing online blackjack for 15 years and overall I expect to lose of course but its how this game accomplishes you losing in such a fast manner when it goes into its beast mode. It's done it far to often where I deposit .5-1btc and the game goes into rage mode and eats your balance up quickly.

Try betsoft single deck in fun mode and many times you will win so quickly so easy then try it many hands also in real mode and you tell me its not rigged. Cheesy

I will stick to the microgaming single deck blackjack even though I don't like the european no hole card it also has better odds because dealer doesn't hit soft 17.

lmao, I bet on betcoin, betting limit is from 1mbtc - 5000mbtc, if you wanna play there, I can send the link to you by PM, if you can be my downline, I can offer rakeback and lossback to you.

I played 3 large hands there,  i won twice for 3 btc per hand, lost 1 hand, I think should be fair, not rigged, if it is rigged, I can easily lose 3 hands.
603  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 24, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
in cloudbet I have few payments pending for ~6 hours, not that satisfying for a top BTC sportsbook... they don't have clear standards on auto/manual more like Nitrogen now.

There grading is excellent but they need to speed this up....

Directbet deserves an A in my opinion, fast, easy and great support although I had an unpleasant experience with a bet confimation odds recently but not their fault most likely.

The cloudbet thread consistently has people complaining of payments taking hours to days.

Also consistent complaints of waiting many days for a response from their cs.

A book taking some of the bigget bets (if not the biggest) on the net not being able to afford 24/7 live chat, or even enough cs people to be able to respond promptly,  is disturbing.

haha, maybe I am the lucky one? I withdrew 1 btc from cloudbet, it was instant, and then i withdrew 18.2btc, i only waited for 1 hour and got my payment, I am pretty sure they are fast, at least to me, I just wonder how much btc do others withdraw, is it larger than 18btc?
604  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBOOK RANKINGS ~ USER GENERATED & MOST ACCURATE (PLEASE CONTRIBUTE) on: September 24, 2015, 06:46:41 AM
cloudbet 5

1. highest odds for sports betting, it is a paradise for me.
2. instant deposits and withdrawals, only big payments need manual approval, but very fast, once i withdrew 18.2BTC from there I just waited for 1 hour, pretty fast.
605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How FAIR are those provably fair games? on: September 24, 2015, 05:43:07 AM
I see u guys said it is not rigged, I don't think so. How can you guys explain nitrogen sports' provably fair blackjack, too many people complain  their blackjack is 100% rigged, when you get 20, dealer gets 21, when you get 19, dealer gets 20 or 21, when you get 18, dealer gets 19,20,21, when you get 17, dealer gets 18,19,20,21, i estimate players have 20% winning rate on their bj, which is highly suspicious, although nitrogen claims it is a provably fair blackjack.
606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 24, 2015, 05:30:55 AM
My current strategy is just double my faucet and then tip to other bank account in dadice, i have 12500 sat faucet, just double and double, play 2X twice, very easy.  Grin  If i am lucky, i can get 25000 sat after one roll, and then all-in 25000 sat, lucky again? Got 50000 sat after the other roll  Grin   30 minutes per time, i could earn several mbtc per day.
607  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: September 24, 2015, 05:23:54 AM
Do not trust their stats on 14 million, I am working on a fiat casino(biggest in my country, have over 500k members, we have larger wagers per day of course, but i don't think ANY btc casino has this kind of huge wagering per day - 62k btc wagering per day), i know how big casinos can have 62K btc wager in one day, 62K btc = 62000*230 USD =14000000 USD per day, that's the third-class fiat casinos have. AFIAK, daily online players on FJ is 200 people(not every online player bet), let's count they have 200 daily active gamblers, how can a person wager 300 btc per day??  Grin
608  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA on: September 24, 2015, 05:00:06 AM
ok..

i have won a bet but they called it 'half won' and paid me half and took half.

WTF Huh anybody seen that??
I think you play Asian Handicap bet because in this some wins called half and they give half profit if your post your slip here then I can give you better reply

you are right!

anyways i feel its not fair to do so.

support of course wont reply. this site has no support i think...

it is not unfair, cause Asian handicap has different rule and odds compared to European handicap, you should read the rule before wagering, there is push/win/lose in european handicap, in asian handicap, you can win/lose partial, win/lose all and push, quite different from european ones.
609  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: September 24, 2015, 04:54:51 AM
Thanks. But, tbh, I personally don't see how it can be that much. I only got stats per currency on 10 jan 2015, so I could make the following calculations:

2014-09-09   0
2015-01-10   23,565 BTC + 1,008,077 NVC (4365 BTC) + 1,005,193 PPC (1658 BTC) + 1,002,993 NMC (1655 BTC) + 105,758 DASH (1108 BTC) + 685,105,819 DOGE (356 BTC) + 8,572,105,491 RDD (343 BTC) + 8,343 LTC (104 BTC) + 8,105 CLAM (48 BTC) = 33202 BTC
2015-08-25   14123010 BTC (According to thebitcoinstrip you had 9003 BTC wagered in last 30 days)
2015-09-24   14132013 BTC


So this makes the following daily average bets:

Between 2014-09-09 and 2015-01-10 (123 days): 270 BTC per day
Between 2015-01-10 and 2015-08-25 (227 days): 62.069 BTC per day
Between 2015-08-25 and 2015-09-24 (30 days): 300 BTC per day

As you can see 300 BTC per day seems realistic, but 62.069 BTC per day is pretty impossible.


These are daily average of other sites (BTC only and only stats from my site so not since start of sites which actually results in relatively higher amounts for most sites):

Code:
JD (during BTC time):	14.420 BTC per day (remember this was with daily crazy highroller action)
Primedice: 2.022 BTC per day
PocketRocketsCasino.eu 426 BTC per day
BitDice.me 324 BTC per day
Rollin 264 BTC per day
SatoshiDice.com 222 BTC per day
BetterBets 222 BTC per day
SafeDice 112 BTC per day
Peerbet 20 BTC per day
dicenow 17.5 BTC per day

As you can see,  62.069 BTC per day is quite unrealistic.



Are you sure you don't have some calculation error with the alt coins? Would you mind sharing per currency stats like you did before?


Either way I do not think anything bad (as in scam etc) about FortuneJack at all(!) I just think there is a mistake in the wagered amount calculation.

good stats, 60K BTC per day is impossible for an infamous casino in fiat world, or famous btc casino, it is possible for a famous fiat casino, it is an obvious exaggeration of marketing.
610  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to play poker now ? on: September 23, 2015, 08:32:32 PM
The sites you guys recommended to him include Texas Hold'Em Poker?

Of course, to me, poker is equal to texas holdem poker, I am not very interested in other kinds of pokers, like omaha, 2-7 draw poker and so forth, texas holdem poker is the most profitable and popular poker in the world.
611  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♦ ♣ Birwo Casino ♥ ♠ Provably Fair - No Deposit Bonus - 100% 1st Deposit Bonus on: September 23, 2015, 08:30:16 PM
50% deposit bonus is not attractive, and 40X wager requirement is a bit high, many other sites only have 35X wager requirement, and your site only has softswiss games, which are too limited for us, not funny at all, i wanna see betsoft and other providers' games
nearly all bonuses that casinos offer are unattractive as they create it not to spend their money but to gather more new players who would play and loose their money

No, williamhill offers 20X rollover first deposit bonus, which is possible to withdraw, at least much easier than 35X or 40X bonus, bet365 offers 3X deposit bonus for sportsbetting, which is also cool, withdrawals from those biggest sites are possible. Cheesy Grin
612  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to play poker now ? on: September 23, 2015, 08:14:47 PM
ACR is one of the biggest poker site in fiat world, in btc industry, the best one should be betcoin, second one is SWC poker, luckyflop is third one. I prefer betcoin cause there are many active players there.
613  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♦ ♣ Birwo Casino ♥ ♠ Provably Fair - No Deposit Bonus - 100% 1st Deposit Bonus on: September 23, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
50% deposit bonus is not attractive, and 40X wager requirement is a bit high, many other sites only have 35X wager requirement, and your site only has softswiss games, which are too limited for us, not funny at all, i wanna see betsoft and other providers' games
614  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: September 23, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
I have been wondering this for a while now and I know others have too. I will keep the first question simple :p

Are the wagered stats of 14+ million BTC on the homepage correct?

This stat is obviously wrong. It could be a simple error though.

If it were correct, assuming a very rough average of 1% edge, that would mean they have an expected profit of £21 million/ $32 million which I think would be safe to assume is not accurate.

According to the stats it would also mean an average bet of 6.1 Bitcoin but most of the bets showing on the site are actually only a few k satoshis.

I don't think they can profit so much money, I doubt the stats of total wagering 14 millions BTC are 100% fake(i remember several months ago I saw that figure was 50k-100k btc, can't be increase so FAST), and their other games have much higher house edges.

They have video poker and blackjack variants, they changed the house rule so the house edges of their new video poker(4% house edge) and blackjack(over 2%) are higher than standard ones, like the rule 21 VS 21 is lost here, unless you get BJ and delear gets 21(non-BJ) but it is push in other casinos.
615  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Gen Social Gambling Dice Experience | Progressive Jackpot on: September 23, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
I'll check weekly DaDice with the new owner. Hopefully they'll do something with the faucet.


The faucet will for sure not be better as it is now.

Will for sure not be better? So I guess the faucet size will go significantly lower in the future, right?

It will not get lower at all, but wagering requirements will get imposed.

Hi, when i wagered 0.7btc, my faucet was 250 sat, it says "Your faucet will increase after 1 BTC wagered.", and I wagered 1.5btc now, when i claimed the faucet it still shows "Your faucet will increase after 1 BTC wagered" Can I get higher amount of 12500 sat if I wager 1 more btc? AFAIK, the highest faucet is 12500 sat, now higher than it??? Shocked Shocked
616  Economy / Services / Re: BitcoinVideoCasino High Rate PayPerPost Signature Campaign. (OPEN) on: September 23, 2015, 04:47:54 PM
First payment received, thank you.  Here's to the start of a good campaign!

but a little strict cause 75 words limit
It's 75 characters, not words.  It's easy to write more than 75 characters.  See?  I just did it, and not counting spaces or punctuation.

Lol, i misunderstood the rule, 75 characters are easy, I usually post sentences over 50 words, thanks for reminding me dude. Cheesy
617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most profitable type of gambling? on: September 23, 2015, 04:44:17 PM
Slot machine I used to play them when I was inlove with Good Girl Bad Girl. an I won lik 4 btc in 2 days but it's been a very rare case

You are so lucky when u played good girl and bad girl, I tried it many times, but only lost money, never got lucky on it. Any strategies on slots??how many mbtc do you bet per spin? I almost gamble as less as possible cause slots always busted me.  Sad Sad 

There are exceptions for me: at the copa, greedy goblins and sugar pop. I checked the house edges of these 3 slots, are all 2.X%, which are lowest house edge slots, no wonder I have earned from them, but I still can't complete casino bonus 35X-40X rollover, that's too difficult to complete.  Angry
618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the most profitable type of gambling? on: September 23, 2015, 05:02:52 AM
Run your own HYIP,its very profitable Wink About 500k $ if you scam after 15 days but !i hate this style!

Are you sure so profitable?  Cheesy  As far as i know, not every HYIP site is profitable, like gambling site. But there are a few sites can earn so much money like you said-500K USD, but less than 5%. If just running a site can earn 500k USD for 15 days, nobody will be a site owner any more.

You need good resources, posting ads on HYIP list sites, very big campaign, and most important, retarded people to give you money, it is even difficult to run a casino, I don't think there are so many morons in the world now, especially in BTC industry.
619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 23, 2015, 04:51:15 AM
You can, I started my gambling life from 2010, from 2010-2012, I only bet on bet365 and williamhill, i lost 2X0 Euros there, 10 on bet365, 200 on williamhill, I thought i don't have good luck on gambling, that's my initial gambling experience, after that i didn't gamble again.

In 2014, I started to gamble on bitcoin dice site, and luckily, i made 40X profits in 1 week, made 10btc profit, I thought I could be lucky on gambling now.  Cheesy Grin

This year, I started to bet on tennis, which is the most profitable sport, so far I have earned over 7btc on tennis, I love this game, love djokovic, betting on him is always earning money.   Wink Smiley Besides, I have earned at least 5 btc pure profit from blackjack.

So is 2010-2015 a long term? It can be long term for me, and I am profitable.  Cheesy Grin
620  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | high stakes LIVE NFL and NCAA on: September 22, 2015, 06:46:22 PM
its a fact, cloudbet is not posting here anymore as u guys see..


this is not looking good
Last post 21 September and its not too much time and Cloudbet is currently one of best sites for bitcoin sports betting some time they take too much time which is not a big problem

yeah, i agree with bitcoinmar, I thought dadice is not looking good before, but I still chose to deposit 5 btc here in end of August, although I have seen so much negative posts against Cloudbet, I still think this site is 100% legit, cause I did research on this site before, most of negative posts were made by newbies accounts, some of them are scammers(refer themselves to make commissions and have multi-account), some of them are other casinos&sportsbook shills, I have seen people have proofs show directbet had many shill account to attack other sportsbook, I am not sure those accounts are directbet's or some others'. All of high level members over senior level said this site is best and legit, so I chose to trust them, not trust those shills, and I was correct, I made 4 btc profit here, and got my 18.2 btc large payment in 1 hour, so I can confirm this site is very LEGIT.   Grin Cheesy
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