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601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price manipulation on: June 26, 2018, 10:03:52 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.

It will be hard to track though wallets, but maybe its true that cryptocurrency are being used for drug laundering but there are a lot of people today that are being helped by cryptocurrency on their financial problems so government should not ban bitcoins because everyone will be affected.
The market demand is low and the value of Bitcoin reached at 6.8k dollar but today the demand rate dropped more and the price dropped is 6.1k dollar.

A common person can afford it very easily which makes the market recording a big traffic and which will show its reaction with a quick response soon. With huge investment and with the demand of people the market will manipulate soon and quickly.
602  Economy / Economics / Re: How to calculate profit on: June 26, 2018, 09:32:33 AM
Every company is required to document the company's financial history formally. If you can do this, it's usually easier to calculate your retained earnings over the period by using figures from the official report to find out how much retained earnings on a given date, net profit, and paid dividends, than if you had to manually calculate . The retained earnings of the company up to the last listing period will be shown in the balance sheet, while the net income of the company will be shown in the income statement for the current period.
For example, for example at the end of 2011 your business has retained cumulative retained earnings of Rp512 million. During 2012, your business generates a net profit of Rp21.5 million and pays dividends of Rp 5.5 million. The final balance of retained earnings from your business is:
Rp21,5 million - Rp5,5 million = Rp16 million
Rp512 million + Rp16 million = Rp528 million
So, your business already has retained earnings of Rp528 million.
A person can invest for short term and for long term but we have to choose currency which is favorable in these cases. The Altcoin, Litecoin and Neo are better for short term investment while the Bitcoin and Ethereum being valuable coins are favorable for long term investments. After successful investment all the money is yours to keep and then you know better how to calculate the profit.
603  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the price of bitcoin rapidly going down on: June 26, 2018, 08:33:43 AM
The news in term of development are actually decent, with LN getting closer to a release, so I think this is just temporary. Smiley
This is will be just temporary and not permanent. Most of us, especially those of us that have been into this for a long time now already knows that this is a regular thing that happens almost all the time. And when it happens, after sometime, before the end of the year, the price will recover. So the best thing is just to HODL as long as you can and wait for the price to recover. But don’t forget to always cut your loss, no matter how things has been in the past, don’t use that to judge the present. Always calculate your steps.
604  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trust you trading experience and don't panic on: June 25, 2018, 07:53:05 AM
Even if you buy bitcoin, your psychology in some situations will still fluctuate vigorously and panic because you have a clear understanding of bitcoin, you have a belief in it, you know everything will stabilize again even when the bitcoin goes down. But also because you have this mood, when bitcoin constantly goes down and goes down, it does not recover like what you imagine, your psychology will be more annoying than ever, hope too much but more despair, boredom will be born, panic and sell is what you will do. So I can only say that people can trust experience but not panic, that is impossible
It is obvious some people will panic even when they are holding bitcoin, in fact we saw this in the recent crash, however the mechanics are the same, those that sold in panic did it because they bought bitcoin for the FOMO without really understanding what bitcoin is about so when they saw the price going down when some whales began to cash out they panicked and now they have learned a lesson that they will never forget, never invest in something you do not understand.
Before entering in to a long term market you should set your mind that after buying something you would need to sit like a duck of the ground because starting is from low market and it will end up after a long time when you enter into its high market.

Do not enter into the market if you have no experience, learn the basic knowledge and start trading for short term so that you gain some experience and then you will be able to start on large scale.
605  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best time to take profit in Trading on: June 25, 2018, 07:22:16 AM
Because the market now are decreasing and bitcoin and even altcoins down you can buy more coins now because the price is more cheaper and if the price will grow again you can gain more profit. The income now in trading is decreasing too but once the price increase you can get more money.
indeed if viewed at this time, we should buy coins or altcoins. and sell them later when prices have gone up, maybe around the end of this year. at the moment the price is decreasing and still cheap
Yeah it is good to hold coin because selling will be good for high price, don’t sell now as price now a day is rising more and more high, so now is cheap in price so we should hold our coin and don’t forget to sell, price only decreases with panic selling, so if people are holding price will be on high, I think not a day price will be highest till the end of year.
One of the best times to take profit in trading actually starts from the red market. You invest in red market and own crypto for a low prices. Hold and wait until the market price rise high and you are well off to cash the portfolio. There are people with less knowledge who make unwise decisions and thus loose the impending money that can be earned if you have a passionate mind and if you are patient.
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Successful ICO Experiences on: June 23, 2018, 10:04:50 AM
Previously ICO's are good to invest especially when some celebrities are getting involved to promote their investment. but as the time pass by, Its getting sour because most ICO's this days are scam, You had to scrutinize carefully the ICO before you can find a trustworthy project:)
The mistake virtually most new investors usually make till date is to think there is a lot celebrity endorsements has to do with the success of a project but I would rather pay no single attention to that at all.

That to me has always been a way to just simply draw people or investor's attention to the project and there has been some project in the past few months that even with some celebrity endorsement still ended up scam and the devs are being tried or have been tried already.
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin as the national currency of the United States on: June 23, 2018, 08:18:53 AM
The idea of the author  is interesting, but so far bitcoin is a national means of payment only in Japan, where even cosmetic services can be paid with bitcoin.
Just look at the easiness and simplicity Bitcoin has introduced in the world. No printing of money, no nothing. As far as Bitcoin being the national currency of America is concerned, almost a huge part of Bitcoin users are Americans.

This means America already hold a big share of Bitcoin and can be thought of as a hidden big Whale that we have not seen yet. Yes Bitcoin is not owned by anyone but there are manipulators who can do the job of owners. They have a great control over the crypto.
608  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the Bitcoin market going to collapse? on: June 21, 2018, 05:27:13 AM
The market today is turbulent but that doesn't mean bitcoin will collapse. precisely, this moment will be used to invest both bitcoin and altcoin. just waiting for time to go breakout.

The market conditions of Bitcoin is not good these days but only for those who have invested in a normal market so selling market will some only after long term hold. The market will never collapse and if it had to collapse then it would have collapse in the past or in the start of crypto market. Bitcoin has given its survival assurances and now it is our time to get benefit of this market.
609  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and retirement - how do you see your future? on: June 21, 2018, 04:49:45 AM
I’m not planning my future by relying on Bitcoin, that’s funny. Bitcoin is not even my main job, there are lots of good jobs out there that are far much better than cryptocurrencies.

I’m an entrepreneur and I can survive without Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just like my second job that I do on my free time, especially whenever I get home, just to keep busy. So I don’t plan my future to rely on Bitcoin. If you’re planning such, then I will advise you to desist from that and make better plans for yourself.
610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin is still dropping ? on: June 20, 2018, 11:57:33 AM
In my careful reading of these forums I have learned about this situation, perhaps because of the investors and miners who hold lots of bitcoin is the reason why the price of bitcoin decreases because they sell it high bitcoin price and it's great and great.
Bitcoin dropped few weeks ago and rose again after some time. There was even a rise in the values of Bitcoin again. This is a good sign and this good sign leads people to invest more in Bitcoin. More investment, rising price. Besides, the current year has been considered as the year when Bitcoin cross $30000 and this level is great enough for the current holders of Bitcoin.
We can not say about the market and the constant drop of the Bitcoin because the market is totally unpredictable and may be the value jumps in few days or may be tomorrow start its increase trend.

The price has dropped at 6.4k dollar and this is due to the low buying rate of the Bitcoin which resulted in the low rate of Bitcoin. We may see the future improvement very soon as we have seen many recoveries in the past which may follow this time by the Bitcoin.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Keep these things in mind when you are into crypto world on: June 20, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Always be prepared that anything can happen, it could be upsetting or could be overwhelming. In crypto world there a lot of doors open to become wealthy, but on the other hand you have to be prepared that it is possible of losing too, that is the reality in crypyo industry. You must be a risk taker in joining crypto world😊
As far as I am concerned, you can easily lose in any investment if you have not prepared yourself, knowledge wise on how to make the best out of your investment.

Experience over time will let you know that if you can take advantage of the space, there are just so many things to gain from it and so much to lose if you are dumb and these same things are applicable even in real life investments which is the main reason why you should always be careful.
612  Economy / Marketplace / Re: issues on the internet on: June 19, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
A lot of people might not have heard of this forum as not everyone uses this.
Not hearing about this forum does not change the fact that they can easily get news from somewhere else. The population of general investors at large is far higher than the population of this forum on its own.

Now, we have news platform and no one can control what they are dishing it out just the same way we cannot control what each individual is dishing out on this forum, but it is all just part of the market, and one thing no one can ever discard as it is part of any other market even outside cryptocurrency.
613  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, ICO, Lending, Bounty. Which one should I do ? on: June 19, 2018, 10:04:17 AM
Dear friend,
So far, I know for kind of earning money from bitcoin and altcoins.
I start trading when bitcoin 17000. until now, I lost a haft of money.
ICO I have win any ICO. But  I did not invest to much.
Lending I think have not join anyone. But I think in the first time you can get profit from lending. But no more later.
And now, bounty, I still reading and research information about it. No one help or support. One day, hundreds of campaign public. But dont know which one scam or good.
I am distempered. Need more advice from you here Smiley


You should try joining bounty campaigns. I am participating in blog/content campaigns only but it is very useful so far. Initially I was participating in every campaigns but now a days I have decided to participate only in those bounty campaigns which have some ranking. Other seniors have elaborated briefly as well.
Rather than the OP even asking us, I am sure he should know what he is capable of and what exactly he can offer. Bounties really does not require so much as long as you have a social media page with good number of quality followers or you have the ability to write articles and so on, but at the end, I am sure only the OP will really know exactly what he has to offer to be able to get anything at all and we cannot be the ones making those decisions for him.
614  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hackers ? on: June 19, 2018, 09:28:10 AM
Are there a lot of hackers now in the crypto's world ? I mean, it a place not totally safe, because of it's quit new.  Do you think hackers can change the crypto economy for their own benefit ?


That's a always a concern mate, especially since the market and all its transactions are heavily inclined with the use of the internet. Thus, we can't stay away from the fact that many shady personalities will take advantage of the how they can profit from the market, unfortunately, in the expense of other people who are working. And I would say yes that they can really chance the landscape of the market, especially if a "hack" would affect a big part of the market.

I agree. Hackers are everyone's concern. These bad people trying to steal our accounts and our money. It is really our responsibility to keep our accounts safe from these hackers. We should be very careful about it to avoid being hacked because these people are everywhere.
It is sure our responsibility. It is just quite unfortunate that a lot of people take security of their accounts with levity and rather than studying ways and making use of those ways to beef up their account, they nonchalantly allow those hackers to crawl in and take everything.

The security measures are there for everyone, and it is important to always make use of them, and it would be utter carelessness for anyone who still at this age does not know how to keep their accounts secured.
615  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: SECRET OF TRADING on: June 18, 2018, 11:09:36 AM
I think that there are no secrets about trading in here.
Most people think that there is a hidden strategy or something like that, but it is totally false, and you all need to understand that

You mean to say the key to success in trading, in order to be a successful trader you need to have a strong grasp on the basic market rules for trading so that you will be safe from loss or any problem. Make relevant decisions according to the present conditions of the market and if you follow the right times then you will make profit while trading and this is only possible if you buy coins in a low market on low price.
616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: yes. crypto is more suitable for gambling because it can overcome many problems on: June 16, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
yes. crypto is more suitable for gambling because it can overcome many problems in online gambling situations, such as fast deposit and withdrawal
I can agree that crypto is one of the best payment method in gambling because of its anonimity and its easy verification of account not like fiat method that it need certain information of yours that can be prone to data breaching.
Yeah that is absolutely right. Crypto is considered as good payment method. People are making good and efficient transactions that are made so fast. No one could have even thought of such amazing speedy transactions that crypto have just provided to the whole world. So just go for them. Don’t waste your energy and money here in gambling, invest in crypto and make good wealth.
617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addiction Stories! on: June 16, 2018, 10:01:48 AM
I used to play poker online. As i have temember, i was pregnant wiyh my first child at that moment. At first, i was just like to ease my boredom since i have a delicate pregnancy and was not allowed to go out at home regularly, So i tried looking for online games. But the things is i am sort of liking the game and almost got addicted into it. Been experiencing so many sleepless nights which is bad in my condition and in a day instead of sleeping, i was still hooked with in front of my laptop and keep on playing. Until i realized that it is not just bad for me but most importantly to the baby inside my tummy, so in an instant i quit.

Hard story to believe though. Grin

No one can quit from gambling instantly once they addicted to it but you may think too much about the baby will help you to get out of it. Loneliness is is also an important reason of getting addicted to something at that time you were spend too much time on online gambling resulted addiction for you but luckily you get out for a good cause.
No doubt in your saying that no one can quit gambling instantly for good. He can’t quit it even if he wants to quit that’s why call it as an addiction. It’s like the same that someone inhales oxygen while he wants to quit inhaling Oxygen because if he will do this, he would be soon dead.  Gambling has a proper method with which it can be easily cured.
618  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculation on BTC on: June 14, 2018, 06:53:36 AM
I am kinda worried about one factor - rate of Bitcoin adoption. It seems like adoption slowed down significantly during last year, and sometimes even reverted (Steam is no longer accepting BTC)
Metcalfe's law states that the value of a network increases as the number of users on said network increases. So the number of users we have, affect directly the price  BTC
Adoption is somewhat stagnant - no major company is talking about accepting bitcoin as a payment method - because they know that people are not willing to spend their coins anyway.
I am worried that "hodling' mentality of Bitcoin users, in the end, will be a very big problem and the reason for low BTC adoption.
I think those two things are different aspects, in one hand you are right when you say that business have stopped adopting bitcoin and in fact we seem to see the opposite, the adoption by new users has slowed down somewhat due to the crash but it was very good before it, the main problem for business were the high fees and I sent a transaction some days ago and the fees were very cheap comparing them to a few months ago and this is going to improve when the lightning network is working, so we will see more adoption in the future it is just going to take longer than we anticipated.
Negative speculation will discourage people and they will stay away of the market of cryptocurrencies due to the negative news. On the other hand positive speculation in the market will encourage people and more people to take the ways straight towards this market.

This improves the mind of people and brings increase in the demand factor which further improves the value of Bitcoin and other coins.
619  Economy / Economics / Re: Beside Cryptocurrenices where would you invest? on: June 14, 2018, 06:19:28 AM
beside cryptocurrencies i invest in most of the mutual funds and share market i feel they will grow in a time when the market responds positively
I am not in very much favor of investing of the money at more than one places and that too at the same time. it is not suitable thing to do as this takes more energies and that you must put in lot more efforts to manage the things in a better way.

However, if you think you can do that, then it is better to go for investment like that of the real estate or something which can make you earn more money.
620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any gambling site that uses bitcoin? on: June 13, 2018, 11:25:14 AM
many if you are looking for gambling sites that use bitcoin on the internet, but whether they are scam or not, I do not know. because I have never tried it. I think it's too risky and better to hold bitcoin alone.
  In online gambling many sites use bitcoin but almost all type of online gambling is done with bitcoin. Yes, there are also many scam sites of gambling but before gambling one must confirm the site and search about it the he should go for gambling. I think if someone wants to gamble with his coins then he should go for it but must confirm the reality of the website and must have a limit in his gambling.
Look, don’t you people see the charm and profits of crypto? Do you really want to over go through those profits and despite of become beneficial from those earning sources, you are putting them in a game that is only made for making you a loser. Not today, but tomorrow you will be losing all what you have and then you will be regretting on what stupidity you just have done.
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