Un governo, oggi, può solo:
1) calciare in avanti il barattolo, tenendo bassi i tassi e convincendo la gente a comprare titoli di stato
2) abbattere il più possibile il debito, svendendo beni pubblici e applicando una patrimoniale salatissima (dimezzare tutti i conti correnti? forse non sarebbe sufficiente)
3) ripudiare il debito
Nel primo caso considererei il governo come un disonesto (sa che è una strada senza uscita, una condanna per i nostri figli o nipoti); nel secondo come un ladro (enormemente peggiore di quanto ladro sia già) e un irresponsabile, anche perché passata la tormenta diventa quasi automatico ricominciare ad indebitarsi come fatto da sempre e in modo scandaloso negli ultimi 40 anni scarsi.
Solo con la terza via c'è qualche speranza di rinascita; per lo meno sarebbe l'occasione pressoché irripetibile per archiviare una repubblica vergognosa assieme alla sua intollerabile costituzione.
Posso chiederti cosa ha di intollerabile la costituzione? Comunque, il problema del debito è chiaramente un problema serio, nessuno credo che qua lo neghi. Stemby, posso chiederti una cosa personale? tu saresti toccato personalmente da un default dell'italia? Con tutto le conseguenze gravissime per diversi anni ampiamente descritte? Poi magari, veramente, si rinasce eh! Ma anche su questo dubito...insomma, gli stati usciti dal default non hanno certo smesso di fare debito. |
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so many unusefull posts.
At least they pump this thread on first page.
Things for gigtrick aren't going very well. They really need to do something for the marketing becouse the idea beyond the project is great, but without commercial, there will be problem..
Promotion is indeed very important for a project because with so many promotions can determine many investors who join this project, hopefully, in the future, more promotion of this project will be increased so that more support will flow for the project. I have to say one other things. Sadly i see that this is one of the many thread on btt with a lot of posts, but with no replies from devs or something. I would really appreciate some answer or post from them, especially becouse they are very active on telegram.. |
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Sono stato via dal forum per qualche giorno, e mi trovo questa discussione che ha preso una piega molto diversa dall'ultimo mio post. Pensavo veramente che certe cose non le avrei mai più lette.  Del resto, purtroppo,credo che sia sempre la stessa storia. Si fa presto ad augurare tutti i mali del mondo, quando non se ne viene toccati. Se vogliamo, può essere veramente visto come una forma di darwinismo sociale. Che vi devo dire...io spero che ne usciremo tutti sani e salvi. |
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Buon pomeriggio a tutti/e... Come tutti i giorni apro la mia mail e mi trovo questo messaggio: Article/Blogs Campaign da parte di Google Формы che sarebbe Google Form... Sfortunatamente per il tizio che ha usato la mia mail per partecipare a quel bounty program su questo form c'è la possibilità di cambiare i dati e cosi' ho fatto...gli ho cambiato l'ETH address  e sempre per sua sfortuna ho tutti gli altri suoi dati a disposizione...ecco qua cosa mi è arrivato ( ho tradotto il format in italiano )  Riepilogando questi sono i dati del tizio che ci ha provato: btctalk username: Action2018indirizzo ETH ( che ovviamente non è il mio ): 0x2Ef0f47eA6562A9a01c1Ff39407b92b00739d3Af link del bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4989188.0A chi devo segnalare questa persona??? PS: sarei veramente grato a chiunque possa prendere provvedimenti verso queste persone puoi sempre scrivere nella sezione scam e/o chiedere un trust negativo a qualche "big" del forum. A me invece sono capitate situazioni in cui persone provavano ad iscriversi a signature's campaign con nick molto simili al mio, sperando che poi alla consegna dei token si sbagliassero e li mandassero a loro. Aggiungo che credo sia una truffa con una possibilità di successo del 2%... |
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if you say so, you think that will never be a bull run like the past bull run in the future...
well, i'm pretty sure that there will be an other great bull run, but not before 2020..
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hello,
just to advise that i've left the signature's campaign on 2th october 2018.
Please reserve my stakes.
Thank you
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A lot of crypto fans and investors are now worried about continuous bearish trend for Bitcoin price and other cryptocurrencies this year 2018. And now beginning to doubt their initial commitment to the Bitcoin ecospace. A lot of people have forgetting the core idea behind the invention of Bitcoin. Most of us have forgetting that Bitcoin was created to challenge the established FIAT system where money can be printed without control and no regards for inflation.
This is entirely not the fault of most of us but it is because of the Bull run Bitcoin has enjoyed so far especially in 2017 where price reaches as high as $20,000. We all got greedy and forgot about the initial ideals behind bitcoin. We all want to cash in the same Fiat currency bitcoin is trying to challenge. This in my opinion is one of the reason why bitcoin price fell this year. We do not fully trust the crypto space yet.
Bitcoin is here to stay and will remain dominant for the future and I still consider it as the most secured investment in this digital age after gold. Below are some of the reasons why I think Bitcoin is a safe investment
1. Bitcoin has already achieved mass adoption though this is subjective . A lot people will now accept bitcoin payment without worrying about how to exchange it.
2. Bitcoin is limited in supply , only 21 Million Bitcoin can ever be created. Out of which 4 million is already lost making it 17 Million.
3. Bitcoin remains dominant in the coinmarketcap with 55% of the entire marketcap
4. Bitcoin current price is still higher than what it is this same time last year
Please I will appreciate if anyone can add reason why they think Bitcoin is a safe investment.
bitcoin is not a safe investiment. We have to be realist.. bitcoin is a risky investment. And i would add that it's true that a lot of people now accept bitcoin as payment, but how many of bitcoin's owner use btc to purchase things? |
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UbcoinMarket is the new strategic feature of Ubank - mature existing company since 2009, leader in mobile finance in East Europe.
this is really a strenght of this project, but i think that is great the parternship with samsung too. About that, can someone tell me more about this parternship? |
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The ico will be end today, dev, what will happen with unsold token? will you burn the unsold token?? I hope the project will run according to the designated roadmap.
they have raised less than 1.5 million $. I really like this project and i really hope that, when they fixed softcap in eth, they have foresee this drop of the price. It will be a pity if they will not be able to follow the road map.. |
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and you believe all this? guys. this is SCUM
i don't think extending the ico date is sufficient enough to tag this project as scam without any proof or reason to consider this project as one, Jinbi is a big project considering they are into gold, it is very necessary the project raise enough funds to finance the development, Sudan Gold Coin has been running ico since last year 2017, they yet to lunch in the exchange, i think the ico is still on, they are also into Gold, can you tag them as scam because their ico is already running for almost a year now? i think the project in the Gold filed always take time to put things in other, this is just my personal observation though, everyone is entitled to their opinion. totally agree about this: "i don't think extending the ico date is sufficient enough to tag this project as scam without any proof or reason to consider this project as one" i would add that, a lot of icos in this months have decided to postponed the end of the ico to raise more funds. |
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The GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation ) entered into force on 25 May 2018, although not all today's companies (especially startups and small organizations) are ready to it. In short, the GDPR is a new set of rules designed to give EU citizens more control over their personal data. In particular, it guarantees certain data subject rights to individuals from the EU. Some of these rights are: - Right to rectification (Art. 16)
- Right to erasure/right to be forgotten (Art. 17)
- Right to restrict processing (Art. 18)
So, if you participate in some projects or use some services, your data is officially protected by the relevant laws. In theory. In practice, when it comes to blockchain projects, your rights are most likely violated. In general, GDPR is incompatible with (many) blockchain projects. Many, because maybe there are several projects which I just don't know about and which are compatible (can you suggest any?). Firstly, transactions on a blockchain are immutable. You cannot change or delete these transactions once they are written on a blockchain. This is one of the main benefits of the blockchain technology (the blocks cannot be deleted or modified to ensure the security and accuracy of the data), but this is also against GDPR requirements. Secondly, everybody can browse through the complete history of transactions on a public blockchain. Transparency is another benefit of the technology, we need it and do not want to lose this feature. As a blockchain user, you agree to send your data on a public blockchain, so I believe this is not a problem for a while. However, you also have the right to leave the project in future if you wish, but your data will still remain there. Thirdly, an essential aspect of GDPR is the data storage location. A company must specify where it stores and transfers your data. The best practice is not to transfer the data outside the EU. However, when it comes to public blockchains, there is no control on who hosts a node. Of course, GDPR relates to the personal data, so the regulation does not cover a blockchain that uses fully anonymized data. But many blockchain-based projects involve the use of users' personal data. Blockchain developers must reckon with the law, especially taking into account the support of the technology in Europe - many of your customers will be from there. Some ways to deal with the problem was described here. The main idea is to store the personal data off-chain and store the reference to this data on the blockchain. Not the most optimal solution for obvious reasons, but I could not come up with a better one yet. An alternative solution would be a revise (extension) of the law for crypto projects. But until that happens, we have to cope with these restrictions by ourselves. As blockchain developers (if there are any here) are you going to support all the GDPR requirements? Which means do you use to implement user rights, for example, the rights to portability or erasure? this is a very good point. I'm asking becouse i would like to know more about it: a project like ethereum, in which way may be impacted by GDPR in europe? |
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As the title says, very simply I want to gather people's opinions on the investor sentiment and the future of ICO as a form of fundraising.
Share below.
HubrisOne Team
it's seems to me that in the last few months, ico's team have had much more problem to raise fund only with ico's itself. Often they need to make deal with big private investors with venture capital |
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"Where does the value of gold come from?"
Gold is a noble metal. It is used in different industries. For example in electrical appliances. Yes, much where. Google to the rescue . mmmm i disagree. the value of gold are not related to its use in the industies! gold had a great value centuries ago, when that industrien didn't exist |
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i won't sell my token for two reason:
1)becouse right now they are almost worthless
2)becouse i don't lose my faith easily.
Anyway, it's really uneasy don't think the worst when i see the price and the lack of news..
I kept the tokens that i received from bounty for more than 2 months but sold them for 0.07$ each at the end many months back. I am glad that i made that decision , i know the ico price was much more than what i sold for but still i am happy seeing token price today. are you happy for our loss?  i'm joking, anyone made his choise. I prefer to wait, maybe until 2020. I'm not in hurry. |
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when will on spectre's platform be possible to short italian's btp?
i'm very interested in such possibility.
Thank you for your help.
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just an update. I've talked with one of the admin of the official telegram channel and he told me that they are sure that they will make the deal with this big chinese investor. But he don't know when..
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A distanza di tempo si sta concretizzando quanto avevo inizialmente detto.
L'assenza di obiettività nell'assegnare e nel ricevere merit, sta spostando molti utenti su altri lidi, vedi l'azione del team di TokenSuite come quella lungimirante di Amazix che addirittura ha fondato un nuovo forum.
Insomma, a breve le prospettive sono:
1. Riduzione di traffico su questo forum;
2. Aumento della qualità dei post;
3. Peso maggiore alla Activity (Come avevano suggerito anche molti altri amici che sono intervenuti sotto questo post);
4. Alto peso del Trust.
Buona giornata
hai delle statistiche concrete sull'effetiva riduzione del numero di utenti di questo forum? C'è veramente, per esempio, un calo dei nuovi iscritti? (il che può non essere necessariamente un male, visto che magari chi rimane non sta per un mero interesse economico) |
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NOTE:💥👌
Sometimes you can find you'a late from the Buying zones recommended,..don't panic wait for its correction then enter especially if the targets are not reached!!
There is many chances in the trades if the market is promising!!
Don't jump to the trade that have arisen for more than 5% because its initial take profit for Whales!!
Learn to Protect your capital!!
Let's trade safely!!
i think that trade well in the crypto's world is much more hard than trade in the real financial's world. "trade safely" is something that in crypto's world, doesn't exist. |
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so many unusefull posts.
At least they pump this thread on first page.
Things for gigtrick aren't going very well. They really need to do something for the marketing becouse the idea beyond the project is great, but without commercial, there will be problem..
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"And the oscar goes to...... Beniamino!". Se cercate trash non serve andare oltre Dopo aver assistito alla moda dei bitcoin, le criptovalute si sono, come ampiamente previsto, sfracellate sul selciato. Hanno perso oltre il 50% nel 2018. Non ne parla più nessuno. A parte purtroppo lui Il fatto che le valute virtuali vengano considerate dal pubblico moneta di scambio o strumenti di investimento significa che coloro che emettono criptovalute o bitcoin hanno avuto un grande successo nella manipolazione delle parole. No comment chissà cosa muove queste persone. E' impossibile che una persona un minimo intellingente pensi certe cose. E' chiaramente mosso da altri interessi. Insomma, per dire una cosa, visto che il tale lavora anche in ambito finanziario, come può non considera le crypto strumenti di investimento. Ma se io faccio trading con il btc, per esempio, cosa sto facendo secondo lui? |
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