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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 11:11:30 AM
Hm, indeed.

doublec, I wonder why it compiles allright on my ubuntu when I go the autogen route... somewhat weird.
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 11:01:04 AM
Code:
make 
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[3]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[2]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing     -g -O2 -MT minerd-cpu-miner.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/minerd-cpu-miner.Tpo -c -o minerd-cpu-miner.o `test -f 'cpu-miner.c' || echo './'`cpu-miner.c
cpu-miner.c: In function ‘parse_arg’:
cpu-miner.c:786: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘json_load_file’ makes integer from pointer without a cast
/usr/include/jansson.h:221: note: expected ‘size_t’ but argument is of type ‘struct json_error_t *’
cpu-miner.c:786: error: too few arguments to function ‘json_load_file’
make[2]: *** [minerd-cpu-miner.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas whats wrong here?


I vaguely suspect jansson is to blame. What's dependency versions and what are you building it on (and for) ?

I've built it for windows from under Fedora 15 (Eh, I know) vm and under ubuntu for, well, ubuntu.



in Gentoo for Gentoo

dev-libs/jansson Installed versions:  2.0.1
and works fine with other *coin miners/apps


Did you try going  autogen.sh route as described in readme ( needs  automake and autoconf)?
603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
"tPKbCkqgio92KVJj4cQAXqs7Ng4dfbhFxR","-765.00"

"tFCq32aZFqa13wrab6m55Nv3R53tk4zkL8","-765.00"

"tVEFkyC8VkXyMfpCyeM78k2nBC6nYUHKS4","-765.00"

"t9ArZXPEa4hiPY22WXDyLu8LW34b13zVMB","-765.00"

"tUK2EQTMF6cN6vuNEfJtVf1BMqarvEZJBL","-765.00"

Sent. Also, other people who posted their addresses before this message will recieve a sum too, a smaller one tho Smiley
604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 10:39:24 AM
No, plain English for Yet Another Useless Piece of Shit Currency...

Still trying to decide what's worse, if you and Artforz losing your time to do this or all this morons mining it lol

With all due respect to your opinion, I believe that in a world where i0coin is being actually sold (or perhaps it would be better to say actually bought  Roll Eyes) it is most unfair to call a cryptocurrency with novel PoW that significantly changes adoption dynamics "Useless Piece of Shit" :-P

OK I got it working with : ./minerd --user 1 --pass 1 --url http://127.0.0.1:8697


But I'm not sure if I'm getting the right hash rate...

./minerd --user 1 --pass 1 --url http://127.0.0.1:8697
[2011-09-26 18:30:19] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0
[2011-09-26 18:30:20] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2011-09-26 18:30:21] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2011-09-26 18:30:22] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3
[2011-09-26 18:30:23] 4 miner threads started, using SHA256 'scrypt' algorithm.
[2011-09-26 18:31:00] thread 1: 65535 hashes, 1.66 khash/sec
[2011-09-26 18:31:01] thread 2: 65535 hashes, 1.65 khash/sec
[2011-09-26 18:31:02] thread 0: 65535 hashes, 1.53 khash/sec
[2011-09-26 18:31:04] thread 1: 8191 hashes, 1.66 khash/sec
[2011-09-26 18:31:06] thread 2: 8191 hashes, 1.66 khash/sec


Looks a little slow although I must admit I don't usually CPU mine

what are you guys getting?

Typical hashrates for TBX.

Do mind that most GPU implementations will be notably slower with modern GPUs.

605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 10:26:05 AM
Is anyone else getting a lot of false proof of works?  around 80% of my proof of works turn out like the one below.

[2011-09-26 17:50:30] PROOF OF WORK RESULT: false (booooo)

Try setting -s in your miner to 5
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 10:08:07 AM
Code:
make 
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[3]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner/compat'
make[2]: Entering directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing     -g -O2 -MT minerd-cpu-miner.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/minerd-cpu-miner.Tpo -c -o minerd-cpu-miner.o `test -f 'cpu-miner.c' || echo './'`cpu-miner.c
cpu-miner.c: In function ‘parse_arg’:
cpu-miner.c:786: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘json_load_file’ makes integer from pointer without a cast
/usr/include/jansson.h:221: note: expected ‘size_t’ but argument is of type ‘struct json_error_t *’
cpu-miner.c:786: error: too few arguments to function ‘json_load_file’
make[2]: *** [minerd-cpu-miner.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Tenebrix-miner'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas whats wrong here?


I vaguely suspect jansson is to blame. What's dependency versions and what are you building it on (and for) ?

I've built it for windows from under Fedora 15 (Eh, I know) vm and under ubuntu for, well, ubuntu.

You need automake and autoconf before you can use the .sh script

How do I build that modified miner of yours?

I tried git cloning it then tried:

./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh: 8: aclocal: not found


Do you have automake/autoconf ?

The .sh is intended for use with them and kinda-sortish favors Fedora, but should work oke on ubuntu

I just installed automake

Code:

chris@galaxy:~/Tenebrix-miner$ automake
configure.ac: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found.
configure.ac: You should verify that configure.ac invokes AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE,
configure.ac: that aclocal.m4 is present in the top-level directory,
configure.ac: and that aclocal.m4 was recently regenerated (using aclocal).
compat/Makefile.am:2: WANT_JANSSON does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:   The usual way to define `am__fastdepCC' is to add `AC_PROG_CC'
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:   The usual way to define `AMDEP' is to add one of the compiler tests
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:     AC_PROG_CC, AC_PROG_CXX, AC_PROG_CXX, AC_PROG_OBJC,
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:     AM_PROG_AS, AM_PROG_GCJ, AM_PROG_UPC
/usr/share/automake-1.11/am/depend2.am:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
Makefile.am:2: WANT_JANSSON does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Makefile.am:24: HAVE_x86_64 does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
Makefile.am:25: HAS_YASM does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
configure.ac:7: required file `cpuminer-config.h.in' not found
Makefile.am:16: compiling `cpu-miner.c' with per-target flags requires `AM_PROG_CC_C_O' in `configure.ac'

If you have both  automake and autoconf, start the autogen.sh, and follow the readme step-by-step from there (assuming autogen.sh doesn't blow up again)

YAUPOSC  Roll Eyes

French  ?  Huh
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin v2.0 features new hashing algorithm, faster on CPUs on: September 26, 2011, 09:58:30 AM
Actually, it's doing quite fine, thanks for asking. A major update and an interesting Wink development Wink is on its way.

Given that both are essentially community projects, and given that they have vastly different goals and niches, Tenebrix shall in no way subtract from Geist Geld.

LOL ok. I look forward to some new constants you change and package as a new coin. How many premined coins are in Tenebrix btw? 10 million?

Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
How do I build that modified miner of yours?

I tried git cloning it then tried:

./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh: 8: aclocal: not found


Do you have automake/autoconf ?

The .sh is intended for use with them and kinda-sortish favors Fedora, but should work oke on ubuntu
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 09:46:06 AM
do mind that Linux users are advised to change daemon=1 to daemon=0, as d=1 makes some distros unhappy and kills the Tenebrix
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin v2.0 features new hashing algorithm, faster on CPUs on: September 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
[ Indeed, it's what I do, get things moving. A question about your previous coin geist geld, is that given up on now? I thought you just made a new website for it and all? What sort of support can we expect going forward for your new coin?

Actually, it's doing quite fine, thanks for asking. A major update and an interesting Wink development Wink is on its way.

Given that both are essentially community projects, and given that they have vastly different goals and niches, Tenebrix shall in no way subtract from Geist Geld.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 09:40:27 AM
OK I got it compiled with qmake and make then I tried:

chris@galaxy:~/Tenebrix$ ./bitcoin-qt
bitcoin-qt: src/main.cpp:1754: bool LoadBlockIndex(bool): Assertion `block.hashMerkleRoot == uint256("0x4e77ffdc1baa20ffffab9d901f418f7496b2a710e462ac4047accdb8b3b774f9")' failed.
Aborted


Now I know you are misplacing the config Cheesy  Either put it into %home%/.tenebrix or put it anywhere you like and use -datadir Smiley

Also, Linux users are advised to change daemon=1 to daemon=0, as d=1 makes it unhappy.
612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin v2.0 features new hashing algorithm, faster on CPUs on: September 26, 2011, 09:19:05 AM
I already knew it was possible but thanks for getting artforz to help me show others before the big SC 2.0 release. What's your next coin going to be? Something else I propose or? Cheesy

Maybe, depends on whether the proposal is sound.

But, I humbly suspect that the idea (and, consequentially, the "proposal") of "CPU-friendly / GPU hostile" mining existed quite since before this thread, however, your seemingly unrivaled ability to catalyze discussion was necessary for issue to gain enough momentum for kind people like ArtForz to pay some attention to it and make a nice reference implementation Smiley
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 09:08:35 AM
Ok, I have to ask, since you didn't say anyhting about it in the OP, can you give more detail about this currency?

Block size, block frequency, total number, simmilarities/differences to bitcoin, etc, etc, etc?

Boy oh boy I forgot, sorry.

Will amend.

1 block per 5 minutes, retargets every week, accept window cut down to 1 hour (half bitcoin's value), Zeitgeist exploit patched.

No upper limit on mining, not unlike Geist
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
Send some coins to '1DrPLgBFdrkSDCe7yx4S57SiRb9gPDQVmy' for test and I'll send 1/2 of it back to you.

Checking whether you can recover from "accidents" with pywallet or whether there is "accident protection" at all ?
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 07:45:21 AM
I've gotten 10 stale blocks out of 11 so far.  Is it possible that the blockrate is fairly fast and I am connected to some slow nodes?

Target blockrate is 1 in 5 minutes, so it's hardly "ZOMGFAST" like Geist.

Current blockrate seems already quite above that tho.

It is not entirely impossible  that you are indeed connected to some slow nodes, try opening up incoming so that you get better connectivity. However, I think your miner might need some tweaks to better fit your hardware (default settings in the bat were established trial-and-error on an i7), minerd --help might help.
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 07:11:24 AM
Um - I think you missed reality with your statement about bot nets trying to be covert.
They CPU mine - and they take away LOTS of cycles from the machines they have infected.
It's only in the rare case where the machine has an appropriate GPU that they even could be covert.

Well, natural selection will sort this one out.

CPU mining too aggressively (or even GPU mining when the user is doing GPU-intensive stuff) is morel likely to get user's attention, and usually that's gameover because as soon as user finds he is infected (esp. with something that interferes with normal day-to-day use) he will eventually get rid of the bug.

Give it some time.

Someone who lucratively mines coins on other person's rig has obvious incentives 1) not to have the activity noticed (thus not to interfere with normal performance too much) and 2) not to get the box / it's owner into "hot water" (that would mean lost resource) unless doing so is vastly more lucrative.

"Minerfections" have significant likelihood of naturally ameliorating as they become more sophisticated (much like real infections by the way)
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Geist Geld now has a website! on: September 26, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
GG update soon(ish). Stay tuned Smiley
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2011, 06:50:08 AM
Well, you're flattering me by calling it a Lolcust currency. It verily much a joint / community effort, even at the conceptual level (Geist is mostly my brainchild in terms of concept, this one evolved organically from all the "how do we design a GPU-hostile PoW" discussion flowing around Cheesy )
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 26, 2011, 06:47:48 AM
GG update soon(ish). Stay tuned Smiley
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SolidCoin v2.0 features new hashing algorithm, faster on CPUs on: September 26, 2011, 06:46:38 AM
Well, all I can say is that I hereby officially testify that CPU-friendly/GPU-hostile miner design is possible   Cheesy
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