I'd rather die in the gutter than take one penny from the State for my food, shelter, clothing and education. I make my own way, thanks.
you should not walk on the streets and road that we have paid for. Everytime you buy anything in a store VAT is paid which should be enough for the roads he is walking on. the VAT is a tax on the merchant.how would he get to the store, when he don't wants to walk on the roads? fly? and anyways, it was he who decided to not use anything that the state owns... |
|
|
|
I'd rather die in the gutter than take one penny from the State for my food, shelter, clothing and education. I make my own way, thanks.
you should not walk on the streets and road that we have paid for. |
|
|
|
"Wealth redistribution" is just another way of saying "confiscation". Robbery is robbery, no matter if a person or a State is doing it.
you entered an agreement with the government when you where born, just as you did to your family. this agreement allows you to take advantage of free education, and other public services, and the government to take taxes. |
|
|
|
I am a human being, not a freeloading monkey.
Taxes have paid my education and founded a stable society that have enabled me to make a decent living, food in the stores, reliable public services etc.
+1 |
|
|
|
Not paying taxes is an enshrined right to alter or abolish a despotic government.
The State dictating what I may or may not do with my wealth when I die is a despotic government.
i disagree with this... the government is not despotic, when it tries to redistribute wealth. |
|
|
|
|
do you also declare that your credit card contains +$10k?
|
|
|
|
|
"all men are created equal", Thomas Jefferson.
do you agree with that statement?
|
|
|
|
i don't care, im just stating that inheritance of wealth does not go well with your people are born equal. you can only have one of the options.
Trying to make people "equal" results in what happened in China during the Cultural Revolution. The Soviet Union suffered the same fate. when a baby is born: a) it is born into a rich family b) it is born poor family. (yes i know there are degrees of rich/poor) now say that all people are created equally, a premise of liberalism. then the baby born into the rich family have unfair advantage over the poor baby, and are therefor not equals. in other words: you can have either one, but not both. stop using the liberal propaganda of "every one if created equally", or surrender your inheritance. |
|
|
|
i have not in this thread said it should go to the state, just that it are against your own political believes.
Then who gets my wealth when I die if I'm not allowed to leave it to my family? as i answered before: I don't know, it could just "vanish", given away to a 50 random strangers, given to the state, given to a "good" course. i don't care, im just stating that inheritance of wealth does not go well with your people are born equal. you can only have one of the options. |
|
|
|
|
all you people are doing is talking about gain!
|
|
|
|
"Want your inheritance to go to your spouses/relatives 100%? Then do it through Bitcoin!"
if you want people to be born equal, then the wealth of the parents should not be transferred to the children. Hmm.. then what do you propose happens to someones wealth/assets when they die? It all goes to the government? i don't know... if you want people to be born equal, then the wealth of the parents should not be transferred to the children.
Spoken like a true statist. Steal everything from people when they die. Wonderful! Make certain that people live in poverty, or at least help ensure poverty. i have not in this thread said it should go to the state, just that it are against your own political believes. |
|
|
|
"Want your inheritance to go to your spouses/relatives 100%? Then do it through Bitcoin!"
if you want people to be born equal, then the wealth of the parents should not be transferred to the children. |
|
|
|
There's a serious disconnect here...
There is NO reason to assume that AVOIDING tax is the same as CHEATING tax.
There are plenty of ways to avoid tax without being a "cheat". Sure, many people won't take advantage of the legal ways to get around being gang raped for more than they need to pay, but that doesn't necessitate that just because YOU didn't take advantage of those ways that other people are cheats.
Again, this is just more buying into common misperceptions.
If you can avoid tax, why not? Large corporations do it all the time.'
Why is it ok for a fortune 500 company to do something, but it's "immoral" or "unethical" for you to do it?
I say BS. If you don't work the system, it will work you. Just take advantage of the ways to avoid tax that are available. There are LOTS of ways.
it is also immoral for the fortune 500 companies... |
|
|
|
Isn't that a part of the attraction of bitcoin? You can AVOID tax? And as for "realized gains", why not just sell your bitcoins offline to some person willing to show up at a coffee shop and pay cash?
No, the the attraction of Bitcoins is fast global payments an order of magnitude cheaper than anything else. +1 truer words have never been spoken. |
|
|
|
Hey guys,
I'm kinda new to BTC, and some things are unclear even after some reading. I kept the blockchain page open, and noticed that block 232424 was mined by Eligius, and the subsequent block 232425 only has the initial transaction of 25 mined bitcoins in it and is immediately also mined by Eligius. Does this happen often? Doesn't that break the whole concept of mining? How did they immediately find the next block?
So many questions..
Thanks!
luck. I don't really believe in that much luck for someone who doesn't appear to even be in a pool? The timestamps are even the wrong way around.  and? ts it here is nothing in the specification that says that a block should have a perfect timestamp(only that they should be within acceptable limits). Eligius could be running multiple boxes with bitcoind on them, with a slightly different clokcs on them. or it could be that Eligius did not mine the block. |
|
|
|
Hey guys,
I'm kinda new to BTC, and some things are unclear even after some reading. I kept the blockchain page open, and noticed that block 232424 was mined by Eligius, and the subsequent block 232425 only has the initial transaction of 25 mined bitcoins in it and is immediately also mined by Eligius. Does this happen often? Doesn't that break the whole concept of mining? How did they immediately find the next block?
So many questions..
Thanks!
luck. |
|
|
|
no one is avoiding paying taxes, bitcoin is a global currency its called a totally new concept
that does not matter in tax laws... if i have a capital gain from bitcoin, i would have to pay taxes. it does not matter if im exchanging them back into fiat: i still had a gain. if its claimed as capital gains then it can be claimed as capital losses with the similar tax deductions, yup. but you don't have capital losses(unless you are stupid and bought at 266). |
|
|
|
no one is avoiding paying taxes, bitcoin is a global currency its called a totally new concept
that does not matter in tax laws... if i have a capital gain from bitcoin, i would have to pay taxes. it does not matter if im exchanging them back into fiat: i still had a gain. |
|
|
|
Isn't that a part of the attraction of bitcoin? You can AVOID tax?
And as for "realized gains", why not just sell your bitcoins offline to some person willing to show up at a coffee shop and pay cash?
All these threads about "how do I pay tax" sound like a cacophonous symphony of masochists screaming "Rape me! No, rape me first!"
Paperwork is painful enough. Why add to the misery?
Or at a minimum, why not just only sell back an amount equivalent to your initial investment and keep the BTC? The next time you take a holiday, or step out of the country, you can probably cash in some of your BTC and stay under the radar and avoid more paperwork.
becuase they realise that personal monetary gain does not always maximize their wealth. i want to pay taxes, because i think its best for the society(and in turn me) to have "free" education. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
