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6201  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 27, 2016, 03:08:32 AM
I just checked out the lobby and things look better than last time for sure.

I think it's a mistake to run satellites to tournaments that are rebuy+add.

You're running a 1 chip rebuy satty to a 15 rebuy+addon 1500 guar.

You want to focus on attracting the players who can afford 1 chip and think 15 chips is a bit much.  Players will often be disappointed when they realize the ticket they just won will be worth much less if they dont come up with 15 more chips of their own to at least take the add on.

Schedule satellites to freezeouts only so that a ticket winners bankroll doesn't wont reduce their velue in the target event.


If you run satellites, you should have a Satellite Policy on how these situations will be handled:

A player wins a ticket and registers for target event - target event is cancelled

A player wins a ticket and registers for target event then wins 1 or more identical tickets.

A player registers for event with their own funds, then wins a satellite to the same event.

A player wins a ticket but forgets to register for target event.  There are no other tournaments scheduled with the same buyin.

A player wins a ticket but doesn't want to play target event.



If you ever decide to run satellites right before a tournament:

A satellite finishes after its target event has already started and late registration is still open.

A satellite finishes after its target event has already started and late registration is no longer available.







6202  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 25, 2016, 10:34:28 PM
These books have been very good in giving responses from questions that I've asked. You would be surprised at how honest and the amount of information that they have disclosed.

This is especially true for the books at the top. They aren't getting to the top without it.

Well I started a thread in early January of issues they ignore, and it keeps getting longer.  (They banned me in Nov/December because I wouldn't stop asking)

Most of them are poker related involving them stealing literally 100+ bitcoin, but here are some which involve them as a whole:  (gogo has probably asked them 20-30 times by now)

  • Claiming their "parent company" overlaps with  BetCris and Winning Poker Network to gain trust from the community.  However have since refused all requests for them to clarify.  WPN has comfirmed that they "only provide tournaments, that's it"
     
  • Betcoin player emails and login details were used in multiple phishing attacks beginning Jan 2015M
    ost or all Betcoin users received identical phishing attempt emails which included exact login name (seperate from screen name) which looked like it was from Betcoin support.  Betcoin refuses to accept responsibility for allowing player account information to get into the hands of criminals.  Since then multiple scam attempts have been attempted on email addresses which were used only to register Betcoin accounts. Examples of 2 of these emails can be seen HERE[/color]

  • Betcoin was caught paying for good reviews in their own thread on BTCTalk.  Complete transcript/Screen Shot of Support offering a player a reward in exchange for saying why he liked Betcoin,and posting it exactly where he was told, after Managment approved the post can be found HERE

    Betcoin staff later claimed they "thought it was common sense" for them to pay players for good reviews and held a promotion the next day offering 10 players who wrote 3 sentences about why they liked Betcoin a free tournament entry.

    I have more evidence than I know what to do with, let me know if you need anything specific.

    Here's the thread in scam accusations:

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.20
6203  Economy / Reputation / Re: Poll Should Mexxer-2 Lutpin Be Removed From The Default Trust ? on: February 25, 2016, 04:41:40 PM
Every opinion matters for the well being of this forum.

Should the value of every persons opinion be multiplied by the number of alts they have?

If so, this poll is a great idea.
6204  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: February 25, 2016, 05:21:09 AM
This is the 2nd time in the last couple of months that you've offered people money to post ass-kissing things.  Could you please take that money and use it to pay back all of the players that you overraked?  I promise you, if you do the right thing and pay back the money you stole you'll get WAY more positive feedback.

It's not even so much the ass kissing that bothers me, this is just a straight popularity contest. People who hang out in chat (or moderate chat like plo8) all day were upvoted the most and awarded the tickets, with the notable exception of jonnyrocket who was downvoted to -9, wonder why. I nominate plo8 for Betcoin Homecoming Queen.

I think this "Tell Me You Love Me" promo is a reaction to geting caught paying for good reviews (and maybe because one of the top shills, ftwbtc1, got busted in the same week) 

Remember the circumstances leading up to their last "Tell Me You Love Me" promo a couple months ago?

I think when Jessica decided to call out dooglus for not being trusted was the beginning of a mental breakdown or something.

Dooglus, we had nearly 200 players on dice alone in the last 24 hours with no errors, but you seem to have an issue.  Does this have anything to do with your negative trust rating here at BitcoinTalk?  What is going on here?  I am just the forum rep but we have had no reported problems in the last 2 months and all of a sudden I see this.  You certainly have no tickets at Betcoin.ag on the matter.  

Jessica


Betcoin was still responding to me once in a while to offer bonuses for me to come back to their site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13130775#msg13130775

They continued to respond to softballs from ftwbtc and hopenotlate, while ignoring questions about why they made claims about being owned by BetCris (when they weren't) or other similiar issues.

Then they got caught in another lie, claiming a user couldn't possibly have 9 month old tickets because it was a new system (it wasn't) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13152864#msg13152864

They started responding to posts they had already responded to a week earlier: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13152864#msg13152864

Then there was this classic response:

What is the point of having a thread like this if every time someone asks a difficult question you spam the same 3 posts on top of it to hide the difficult question?

Please either answer the questions or explicitly admit that you don't want to answer them. Repeatedly spamming the same out-of-date information about tournaments that already finished is annoying, ugly, and rude.

What question(s) do you want answered?  There are no difficult questions.  We know as we grow you can't please everyone but we certainly try.  We continue to experience very good growth in this industry and we are continuing to work on some remarkable improvements at Betcoin.  Fortunately, people enjoy experiencing opportunities for themselves and when they do experience Betcoin they stay at Betcoin.  Can improvements be made?  Absolutely and they will.  When your goal is to be the best gaming destination in the world, you will face many obstacles, however we will always do right by our wonderful players.  We know twitchyseal is so passionate because he had a great experience at Betcoin, he was in the community many hours daily even up until the ban.  He built up good account equity and made some friends with players and staff that still talk about him today.  If it wasn't something of value he would not spend this much time on a forum.  Betcoin's team is well funded and highly experienced and we look forward to providing an exceptional place to play for many years to come.  

We don't endorse ftwbtc1's statement but there is some truth in it.  The only thing this dialogue does is drive more people to at least read about Betcoin and some visit and when they do they become long time players and for that we are very thankful. 


My Personal Favorite:

In an attempt to be more responsive, yet still keep customer support inquires at the site www.betcoin.ag/support we are wondering if this is a complaint or how to respond here?  Should we not have thank a poster after a certain time period?  May we point out that you are commenting on a post from over 2 months ago as well.



The last post was December 5th

Dec 10th, was the day I posted about about how they were knowingly over raking players for the past month.

After not activity since December 5th, this was their first post back:

BetcoinPoker.com is giving away 10 mbtc to the first 25 players that respond in this thread with their Betcoin username to experience the ring games at Betcoin.ag.  Simply respond with your Betcoin.ag username and we will add 10 mbtc directly to your poker balance for play in the ring games.  Your wallet access will be locked during this promotion which will last for 2 hours.  Once the two hour period is up your account will be reviewed and you can use the btc remaining to experience Betcoin.ag. 

The top 5 ring game players will also be given a daily coin ticket each (value 50 mbtc) to play in the 1 BTC Daily Coin at Betcoin Poker.  We also appreciate any feedback, anytime. 
6205  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 11:45:30 PM
woo-hoo, you are still on that conspiracy multiaccount train, aren't you!
how many multiaccounts do you have, grandmaster?
you seem to know a  lot about that thing, right?

oh right, i see -"Play Plinko or Invest!" - that's your game Tongue
all you can play in this life is with your small undersized child balls,
hope you're not a woman, that is... then your task is only to suck it!

Conspiracy ok.

I doubt you even considered not cheating.

i reserve the right to decline your allegations - you have presented no proof of anything you say,
and i hope nobody comes to play your poker, because you are  so cheap you ban players who won most freerolls,
now you're pissed and simply grab the balance and ban the account - with that mindset, you are not going far!

hope you break a leg, cheapsters

First of all we have paid out over 6 bitcoins since we launched so I think your "so cheap we ban players who won most freerolls" allegation is incorrect.

Here is our proof:

For the past month or from what I can see you are playing with the following accounts (I will hide the IP addresses so you will not get DDOSED or what not):

moonbind logged into session 00002471 from IP *.*.*.*, PC EAA23603
moonbind logged into session 0000004E from IP *.*.*.*, PC EAA23603
droneprobe logged into session 0000246E from IP *.*.*.*, PC 38856361
dolphin logged into session 0000246F from IP *.*.*.*, PC B3CC4025
dolphin logged into session 00000051 from IP *.*.*.*, PC B3CC4025
atthegame logged into session 00002470 from IP *.*.*.*, PC DA1A6373
atthegame logged into session 00000050 from IP *.*.*.*, PC DA1A6373

What really made it obvious is you are using droneprobe, dolphin, and atthegame to constantly transfer funds to your main account "moonbind". Below I will post just a few of the MANY transfers that you are doing directly to your main account.

2015-06-06 08:41:24|Account|droneprobe -2.34 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-06 08:41:24|Account|moonbind +2.34 balance 14.04 (Transfer from droneprobe)
2015-06-06 08:41:24|Account|droneprobe transfers 2.34 to moonbind

2015-06-06 08:43:38|Account|dolphin -6 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-06 08:43:38|Account|moonbind +6 balance 20.04 (Transfer from dolphin)
2015-06-06 08:43:38|Account|dolphin transfers 6 to moonbind

2015-06-06 08:45:45|Account|atthegame -3.66 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-06 08:45:45|Account|moonbind +3.66 balance 23.70 (Transfer from atthegame)
2015-06-06 08:45:45|Account|atthegame transfers 3.66 to moonbind

2015-06-13 04:17:12|Account|dolphin -3.07 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-13 04:17:12|Account|moonbind +3.07 balance 14.33 (Transfer from dolphin)
2015-06-13 04:17:12|Account|dolphin transfers 3.07 to moonbind

2015-06-13 04:32:55|Account|droneprobe -7.90 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-13 04:32:55|Account|moonbind +7.90 balance 22.23 (Transfer from droneprobe)
2015-06-13 04:32:55|Account|droneprobe transfers 7.90 to moonbind

2015-06-13 06:30:32|Account|atthegame -4.83 balance 0 (Transfer to moonbind)
2015-06-13 06:30:32|Account|moonbind +4.83 balance 27.06 (Transfer from atthegame)
2015-06-13 06:30:32|Account|atthegame transfers 4.83 to moonbind


Shall I post more? It is quite obvious to us with the tools we have to catch players doing this. Players may do 1 or 2 transfers every now and then but I constantly watched you login, transfer funds to your main account, then log off.

Thanks.


it's nice how you make up a collage of information!

now, enjoy your player online number = 0
happy yet?

don't invest in this cesspile of a joke, go visit real reputable poker sites, like

https://swcpoker.eu/
https://www.betcoin.ag

those are real legit and truly respectable poker sites, that's all

hey, you are good at fantasy! you could write children's books!

way to go, pal!

I know the poker sites compete, but it would be nice if Moonbind's IPs were shared in some way so that he's not playing online, anywhere.

well, there's a thought i wanted to share with you - this particular poker site,
bitcoinpoker.gg is already dead with it's outdated cheap software, incompetent staff and dime-cheap budget/investment return plan!

also, this is not about me, please don't flame/troll and make your own topic, like:
"Moonbind - the killer of online poker" or something along those lines in your crooked little head!

or, best of all - go play barbie-online with the rest of your age group, apparently poker is too difficult to you...

BitcoinPoker.gg is fail, R.I.P.

the site is dead empty, like all the other half-ass poker start-ups based on the cheap Maven web software

operators - get a life, get a real job at a factory or a vegetable farm!

mark my words...
6206  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 02:58:57 PM


Hi,

Sorry to keep bugging you but nobody will know what this means. 

Quote
- chips rebuy

Some good info would be,

X Starting Chips
Unlimited/X Rebuys for X Chips for X BTC for first X minutes
Is there an add on?
How many minimum players?  If its more than 10 I think it might cancel.

X Starting Chips
1500 starting chips.

Unlimited/X Rebuys for X Chips for X BTC for first X minutes
max Rebuy 10 times per person. With one rebuy of 1mbtc you get 1500 chips.

Is there an add on?
There is no add on.

How many minimum players? 
Minimum number of players - 20 people
Less than 20 players the tournament will be cancelled.



Only things missing:
How long is rebuy period?
Forgot to ask this one, At what point can you rebuy with regards to your chip count: (Only if you have 0 chips or Only if you have 1500 or fewer chips are the two most likely answers)




10 rebuy limit is kind of weird.
1 or 2  makes sense, otherwise I think it should be unlimited.  If someone wants to shoot off 10 stacks, no reason to stop him from shooting off 10 more .

6207  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 02:19:54 PM


Hi,

Sorry to keep bugging you but nobody will know what this means. 

Quote
- chips rebuy

Some good info would be,

X Starting Chips
Unlimited/X Rebuys for X Chips for X BTC for first X minutes
Is there an add on?
How many minimum players?  If its more than 10 I think it might cancel.
6208  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 01:57:04 PM
We have corrected this clause in our rules of the blackjack, consequently we have credited you with the bug bounty. Thank you for your input.

Thank you. 
6209  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 01:51:09 PM


Please send bug bounty to: 1772S37GYafXgZsNXN87GZD171vV82ecsD

or maybe just a thank you?


nah man, they rather give away 27 btc in a video contest, or give away 15btc monthly in freerolls...
Why bother with bounty.
Who is even in charge of this?
Person responsible for marketing, and especially poker marketing please contact me by email. I am open for cooperation, and got required knowledge and experience.
FortuneJack username same as bitcointalk username.

Overall, after a poker game has finally started, I must admit that software is great! Smooth, configurable, looks very clear. Also it looks like designed especially for FJ.
Way to go with poker software in 2016! GG

We give out the bug bounty when we have the bug in the system of the game malfunctions so that we can correct it, consequently the person is rewarded. Here were indicated the clauses that we may have to change or delete. We have to discuss them with the provider. Thank you once again.

In that case, the terms for you bug bounty offer should be changed.
I'm sure you understand how important the Terms of Use are for any Casino which makes my suggestion to fix yours (not to mention explaining how to find them for you), a pretty valuable suggestion.  

Quote
Get involved! Inform us of any bugs and suggest improvements, and we'll reward your effort!

Your input can help to make FortuneJack even better! Please let us know if you find any glitches, or if you would like to offer ideas to enhance the website (functional, technical, new products etc.)

The reward rate depends on the size and relevance of a highlighted bug or improvement.



everytime a thread is self-moderated, we can be sure that we will be facing a betcoin like attitude Cheesy
slow on negative response, fast on positive one
and the attitude, you can guess it yourself
no surprise here actually  Tongue
i already give up


Wow, that's a very serious thing to say.
6210  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 12:41:26 PM


Please comprehend that you push when you and the dealer have the blackjack. This is what happened to you with the hand ID that you sent to our support. We are not providing the answers to customers without thorough analysis. We have analysed your hand in our database and gave you the sequence of the blackjack game that really happened.




Please comprehend that your rules are wrong, they need to be changed, not just the grammar.

"A Player and Dealer Blackjack on the same hand results a loss."

Please also comprehend that the terms and conditions listed for for your poker room are completely ridiculous.  They say you require documents from everyone, and you will close any account and seize the funds if a player is from USA or many other countries wtf?


Could you show me where did you find that information on the site.



-snip-

Feel free to send bug bounty.

Username: TwitchySeal


Please show me the information where we have on the site the term and condition for the poker room where we require the documents from everyone and close or seize the funds if player is from USA.

I showed you on 2/19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg13939407#msg13939407

I showed you again on 2/22: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg13972067#msg13972067

Here is the link to your own Terms of Use: https://poker.fortunejack.com/terms.html

Here is where you require documents from everyone:

Section 2.
Quote
To maintain a high level of security, the Company reserves the right to conduct a security review at any time to validate your identity, verify your financial transactions and further document your consent to this Agreement. To facilitate these security checks, you agree to provide such identification or other information or documentation (including but not limited to copies of a valid passport/identity card and/or any payment cards used)

Quote
YOUR WARRANTIES AND REPRESENTATIONS
You warrant and represent that:
you are not a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Bulgaria, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Estonia, France and its territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Australia, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Netherlands Antilles, Republic of Serbia, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, and/or The United States of America and its territories;

Section 3.5
Quote
In order to be eligible a player must setup a real money account, which includes his full contact details, so that we can pay any winnings to this real money account.

Section 4.4
Quote
Before making a deposit and to avoid unnecessary delays in processing your payouts make sure all information (Name, Date of Birth etc.) including your address is correct and that it matches your bank records. In the case wherein we are/were unable to verify your account information and validate the same you may be required to submit additional documentation for account verification that may include the following (but restricted to):
i.   A photocopy of your picture ID (e.g. Driver’s License, Passport)
ii.   Photocopies (front and back) of your credit cards
iii. A credit card statement or utility bill
iv.   A credit card verification form
v.   Imprint of your credit card

Section 12.4 Your (Players) Responsibilities
Quote
You shall provide us with all information requested by us and necessary for the operation of the Player Account, including, but not limited to, proof of identity, notarized documentation, proof of address, utility bills, bank details, bank statements and bank references. You shall provide us with any such requested documents immediately upon request and not later than within a reasonable time of response.


Here's where you list the countries that are not allowed to play:
Quote
YOUR WARRANTIES AND REPRESENTATIONS
You warrant and represent that:
you are not a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Bulgaria, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Estonia, France and its territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Australia, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Netherlands Antilles, Republic of Serbia, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, and/or The United States of America and its territories;

Here's where you say you will close accounts if player is from USA (or other countries)
Section 20
Legality of Participation in Games
Quote
...Residents of USA ,Italy, Australia and Singapore are not permitted to play using the software, accounts of residents of these countries will be closed and any balance void.

Here's my favorite, where you say anyone banned from any online casino ever is not allowed:
Quote
You have not previously held a Player Account which was suspended or terminated either by us or by any other online gaming operator, charged back any monies via a Player Account or maintains a current Player Account; and

Please send bug bounty to: 1772S37GYafXgZsNXN87GZD171vV82ecsD

or maybe just a thank you?



6211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be profitable in the long run! It is possible! on: February 24, 2016, 11:54:41 AM

You're right about both having the same EV.

But they aren't the same.  

The difference is with the commission model, the player will win slightly more often, but each win will be slightly smaller than the House Edge model.  

Technically they are, the payout and the probability is the same thing calculated under the EV.

If you consider these are the same.

Win 200% of Bet 49.5% of the time
Win 199.5% of Bet 50% of the time

Do you consider these the same?

Win 109.5% of Bet 90% of time
Win 1,000% your Bet 9.5% of time

They all have same expectation. ( -1% )


(Dont get me started on Taxes lol)
6212  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
The dealer did not Blackjack also.
The dealer had a 3 card 21, not a Blackjack.

I know. The second part is just a mistake I found.

Player BJ + Dealer BJ = push
Player BJ + Dealer 21 = Player Win

We know this, they don't.
Everyone know about that basic rules. I think it's more likely to technical fault which it's accidentally or we can say it's a bug? Mistaken algorithm.
Never happened to me the case like this btw, i just wish fj could clarify and solve this problem asap .

They emailed me back saying that the dealer had a Blackjack which is why I didn't win.
I want proof of this FortuneJack.

You cannot even check the bets on their provably fair system to see the cards.
They are fabricating a lie saying that the dealer had a blackjack on bet id : 8447318
If you have this same issue, you better screenshot it so you have undeniable evidence or they will cheat you out of your money.

They are trying to cover up their cheating system all for a mere 0.053 Bitcoin Blackjack.

Stay away from their normal Blackjack.

Please comprehend that you push when you and the dealer have the blackjack. This is what happened to you with the hand ID that you sent to our support. We are not providing the answers to customers without thorough analysis. We have analysed your hand in our database and gave you the sequence of the blackjack game that really happened.




Please comprehend that your rules are wrong, they need to be changed, not just the grammar.

"A Player and Dealer Blackjack on the same hand results a loss."

Please also comprehend that the terms and conditions listed for for your poker room are completely ridiculous.  They say you require documents from everyone, and you will close any account and seize the funds if a player is from USA or many other countries wtf?


Could you show me where did you find that information on the site.





Feel free to send bug bounty.

Username: TwitchySeal
6213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be profitable in the long run! It is possible! on: February 24, 2016, 11:22:26 AM
Quote
Manipulating the probability via house edge ,or manipulating the payout via comissions is the same thing.

Both affects the expectancy the same way. It's like putting an income tax on a lottery prize, it's hard enough to win the lottery, but by taxing the payout, you lower the expectancy even more.

You're right about both having the same EV.

But they aren't the same. 

The difference is with the commission model, the player will win slightly more often, but each win will be slightly smaller than the House Edge model. 



Quote
Not definitely, you can still have enough losses in a row to wipe out the balance.

Or you can still have enough wins in a row to become a billionaire. But most likely you end up 0.

True!  I was not considering a limited bankroll.
My statement is only true if we have a infinite bankroll.

With a limited bankroll, there will always be some risk of ruin. 
6214  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 11:00:16 AM
The dealer did not Blackjack also.
The dealer had a 3 card 21, not a Blackjack.

I know. The second part is just a mistake I found.

Player BJ + Dealer BJ = push
Player BJ + Dealer 21 = Player Win

We know this, they don't.
Everyone know about that basic rules. I think it's more likely to technical fault which it's accidentally or we can say it's a bug? Mistaken algorithm.
Never happened to me the case like this btw, i just wish fj could clarify and solve this problem asap .

They emailed me back saying that the dealer had a Blackjack which is why I didn't win.
I want proof of this FortuneJack.

You cannot even check the bets on their provably fair system to see the cards.
They are fabricating a lie saying that the dealer had a blackjack on bet id : 8447318
If you have this same issue, you better screenshot it so you have undeniable evidence or they will cheat you out of your money.

They are trying to cover up their cheating system all for a mere 0.053 Bitcoin Blackjack.

Stay away from their normal Blackjack.

Please comprehend that you push when you and the dealer have the blackjack. This is what happened to you with the hand ID that you sent to our support. We are not providing the answers to customers without thorough analysis. We have analysed your hand in our database and gave you the sequence of the blackjack game that really happened.




Please comprehend that your rules are wrong, they need to be changed, not just the grammar.

"A Player and Dealer Blackjack on the same hand results a loss."

Please also comprehend that the terms and conditions listed for for your poker room are completely ridiculous.  They say you require documents from everyone, and you will close any account and seize the funds if a player is from USA or many other countries wtf?
6215  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 10:43:45 AM
The dealer did not Blackjack also.
The dealer had a 3 card 21, not a Blackjack.

I know. The second part is just a mistake I found.

Player BJ + Dealer BJ = push
Player BJ + Dealer 21 = Player Win

We know this, they don't.
Everyone know about that basic rules. I think it's more likely to technical fault which it's accidentally or we can say it's a bug? Mistaken algorithm.
Never happened to me the case like this btw, i just wish fj could clarify and solve this problem asap .

Well according to their rules Player BJ + Dealer BJ = Player Lose

So maybe not.


You cannot even check the bets on their provably fair system to see the cards.
They are fabricating a lie saying that the dealer had a blackjack on bet id : 8447318

FJ better get their shit together before dooglus catches wind...

6216  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 10:07:33 AM
The dealer did not Blackjack also.
The dealer had a 3 card 21, not a Blackjack.

I know. The second part is just a mistake I found.

Player BJ + Dealer BJ = push
Player BJ + Dealer 21 = Player Win

We know this, they don't.
6217  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 10:02:50 AM
Had an issue with FortuneJack about 2 days ago now.

Was playing normal Blackjack, and I had a Blackjack, the dealer had like 13. Normally this would be an automatic win as the dealer didn't have a Blackjack, when I did.
The dealer rolled an 8 and got 21.

Instead of paying me for having Blackjack, the dealer pulled a 3 card 21, it gave me a draw instead of my 3:2 Blackjack win.

No matter where you play Blackjack, if you have a Blackjack, and the dealer does not, you win, here on FortuneJack, you push. Even if you're playing on the live Blackjack Tables you have a Blackjack and the dealer pulls a 3 card 21, you still win with your Blackjack.

I emailed support, supplying them the Bet ID, and all details of it, and they emailed back asking me for the Bet ID again, even though I supplied it in the first message. I supplied it again and since have heard no word from support again.

I entered the live chat, and inquired about it, she 'looked up my emails' and said she forwarded them so they can get 'looked over', and said that as per there 'support standards' it could take up to 24 hours if not longer. So it seems all I will get is the constant run around from FortuneJack.

I'm bringing it here to the forums to let everyone know, that the system for their normal Blackjack is rigged, or needs to be fixed.

We have notified you through chat support that your request is being forwarded to the technical team that will examine your case.

Yes you will 'examine' my case. This doesn't exclude the fact that the general public must be made aware of this issue before it happens to them too. I want to play at a provably fair casino, not a 'probably fair' casino.

Just to save the technical team some trouble.

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BlackJack Rules

Based on a score of 21, Blackjack provides the player with some of the best odds in the house. The objective of Blackjack is for a Player to come as close to 21 without going over, while still having a higher total than the Dealer. Prior to receiving any cards, the Player must place a bet. The cards are dealt in rotation from the Dealer, left-to-right. The Dealer's hand has one card face down and one card face up. If the Player's card total is closer to 21 than the Dealer's, the Player wins. The Player wins if the Dealer's card total is higher than 21. The Player also wins with Blackjack when the Dealer's score is 21 made up of three or more cards. If the Player's total is over 21, the Player loses. Players have the option to play one or two hands against the Dealer. You have Blackjack when the first two cards equal 21.

Also, you should change this rule.  (I assume there would be plenty of complaints if you were following it)


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Win or lose
The Player wins when he holds a score that is 21 or less, but greater than the Dealer’s final total.
Achieving a score of 21 or less when the Dealer’s final score exceeds 21.
An ace and any ten-value card together on the initial deal is called a Blackjack.
Blackjack pays 3 to 2, providing that the Dealer does not also have Blackjack.
A Player and Dealer Blackjack on the same hand results a loss.
Any winning score of 21 after a split is paid 1 to 1.
6218  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 3 BTC BONUS on: February 24, 2016, 09:44:39 AM
is the hourly freeroll removed?

Dear player,
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6219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be profitable in the long run! It is possible! on: February 24, 2016, 09:35:12 AM

Actually it's 49 - 51  isnt it?



51-49=2

Hmm interesting , i never thought of this, i always calculated it with 49-51.

Ok then, so it's 49.5% win, 49.5% loss, and 1% house comission.

Commision and house edge are not the same.  House edge assumes the house is playing the game with you (Against you, really).  Commision refers to a fee the house charges in exchange for dealing a game.  The fee is usually directly affected by the amount bet, like a poker tournament that charges $1000 which goes to the prizepool plus $150 fee that they keep no matter what.  Some games , like Baccarat  have both.  If you Bet player, you are up against the house edge.  But you can also bet Banker, which give YOU the house edge, but for that they charge you a commission.

To make things easy to explain, lets assume we are playing a game against the house that only has two possible outcomes. Either  Lose 100 units or win 200 units, and the house wants to earn 1% of every unit bet.  There are two ways they can do this, by gaining an edge or by charging a commission:

If they charge a commission you could have a true 50% chance of either winning 200 units or losing 100.  However, whenever you won, you would have to pay the house a 2 unit fee.  (this is similar to the banker bet in baccarat)

If they don't charge a commission, they could make their money by changing the game so that the the player would win only 49.5% of the time, instead of 50% like before.  50.5% (chance of house to win) is 1% more than 49.5% (player chance to win), so we call the house edge 1%.


Now what does that tell you, it means that the win and loss will be equal in the long run, and its the 1% that drains away your money.

If it were 50-50, you would probably end up breakeven in infinity.

If it were 50-50, you would probably definitely end up breakeven in infinity.




So what we need to analyze is the 1% house edge how much that drains us and what are our expected chances of beating that short term.

We've already figured out how much the house edge will cost us, it's 1%.

To figure out our chances of winning short term, we have to know exactly what "short term" means.  How many bets is the short term?  

If it's 1 bet, our chances of winning are 49.5%

As we increase the number of bets we have to make, the chances of winning will go down.

If it's infinte bets our chances are 0%


If the house edge is on our side, it's just the opposite.

6220  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 24, 2016, 02:34:45 AM
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