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641  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool on: April 10, 2017, 06:54:29 PM
I want to try buying more nicehash hash

Anyone knows any altcoins PPS pool that works well with nicehash?
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: What is zpool? on: April 10, 2017, 06:46:57 PM
I'd say it's like YiiMP considering it's an implementation of that opensource pool  https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp

It's sort of like MiningPoolHub in function. What ever you mine will be auto-exchanged for BTC, or other listed coin by using "c=CoinSymbol" in the password field, so you kinda sell hashingpower by default, selling what you mine for BTC or other coin of your choice.

you can buy hashingpower with their "HashTap" thing, though sadly it seems new user registration is down atm due to some technical issues with their captcha of all things.
Is it pay per share?

Any pay per share pool?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1861090.msg18509044#msg18509044
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My current setup on: April 10, 2017, 06:43:47 PM
you can do everything you want in wattTool , you don't need afterburner at all.

How do you set memory and GPU clock in watttool?

Can watttool save settings?



watttool can save settings , there is the button under Profile "SAVE" Smiley make sure you give a .ini extension for your saved profile file...
then you can open manually ( Profile - open ) or just create a simple bat file and set it to autorun  Smiley
Dont use that  two tune program together , stick with watttool or afterburner.
if you post a picture , then dont replace that picture with another one . update your post with the new picture you want to share with us ! Smiley this way everyone who is reading this topic going to understand what we are talking about ! BTW i dont think you really know what you doing with those " p state numbers " ... is still wrong on your "new , replaced" picture Wink
You really should not worry about what wattage the afterburner or gpuz or any software give you , you must to check the power usage at the wall . Those reading is for the gpu , if you underclocking your gpu but overclocking your mem , you reading might be less but the real power usage will be more at the wall !!!

Okay. But can wattool change GPU frequency and memory frequency? How? My power usage at the wall for 6 RX 480 is 1200 watt.

The reason I ask is because I use afterburner because it can change GPU frequency and memory frequency.
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Can anyone tell me how multipoolminer works? on: April 10, 2017, 06:10:50 PM
Quote
  Type: {AMD, NVIDIA}

Miner          Algorithm                         Speed            BTC/Day         BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----          ---------                         -----            -------         ---------- ----
ClaymoreDual30 {Ethash, Sia} {29.69 MH/s, 445.36 MH/s} {0.00180, 0.00017} {0.06050, 0.00038} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
ClaymoreDual40 {Ethash, Sia} {27.04 MH/s, 540.81 MH/s} {0.00164, 0.00021} {0.06050, 0.00038} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
ClaymoreDual20 {Ethash, Sia} {28.48 MH/s, 284.83 MH/s} {0.00172, 0.00011} {0.06050, 0.00038} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
Claymore       Ethash                       29.71 MH/s            0.00180            0.06050 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum


   Type: AMD

Miner    Algorithm         Speed BTC/Day  BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----    ---------         ----- -------  ---------- ----
Claymore Equihash    293.84  H/s 0.00191 6,492.64478 MiningPoolHub-Zcash
Sgminer  Ethash       27.76 MH/s 0.00168     0.06050 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum
Sgminer  Equihash    210.90  H/s 0.00137 6,492.64478 MiningPoolHub-Zcash
Claymore Cryptonight 744.00  H/s 0.00103 1,377.73283 MiningPoolHub-Monero
Sgminer  Cryptonight 730.70  H/s 0.00101 1,377.73283 MiningPoolHub-Monero




   Status: Running

                    Speed Active                      Launched Command
                    ----- ------                      -------- -------
              156.40 KH/s 01 Days 01 Hours 04 Minutes Once     Bin\Lyra2z-CPU\cpuminer.exe -a lyra2z -o stratum+tcp://europe.lyra2z-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17025 -u
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -p x
{30.21 MH/s, 453.12 MH/s} 01 Days 01 Hours 04 Minutes Once     Bin\Ethash-Claymore\EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool europe.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -dpool hub.miningpoolhub.com:17022 -dwal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -dpsw x -dcoin sc -dcri 30


MultiPoolMiner is 13% more profitable than conventional mining!

Miner                                              btc     usd
-----                                              ---     ---
MultiPoolMiner                                     0.00253 3.06008
{ClaymoreDual30-Ethash/Sia, CpuminerLyra2z-Lyra2z} 0.00224 2.71630

1. Is there a way to put power calculation in? For example, equihash consumes lower power than ethash. How to tell multipoolminer to do equihash instead?

What does it mean multipoolminer earns 13% more than conventional mining?

2. Also should we donate to multipoolminer? I don't mind. I just want to know what feature will I miss if I don't.

3. Is Sia coin always the best for claymore as the second coin for dual mining?

4. Multipool miner says I would make .00253 BTC. I wonder where does it get the number. It says if I use Ethash/Sia I would make .0024 BTC. Again, where is that number come from? This ClaymoreDual30 {Ethash, Sia} {29.69 MH/s, 445.36 MH/s} {0.00180, 0.00017} suggest that I would make only .00197 btc per day. Not .00253 btc per day.
645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3 on: April 10, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Can anyone confirm? I mean i like nicehash better than multipool. Easy to use. So if diffeence is not high then why bother.

The thing is I plan to buy from nicehash and sell to multipool. I can't do that if nicehash already pay seller higher than multipool.

Currently I use a miner to mine ethereum straight. The result is 23.7Mh/s.  That is around $2.06 per day.

Let's see if I do it with nicehash.

Besides nicehash anything else? GUI where I can see dollar per day quickly?

Update:

Nicehash pick dagger hashimoto and claim that I am making 1.96 per day. So around 5% less juice.

There is no option to hash nthash at nicehash!!!!

Even though my card definitely can do nthash. Hmm.... Something is wrong here.

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Dagger Hashimoto is nthash.

Nicehash pay a bit less than mining on other pools straight. But they switch algo giving you a bit of extra juice.

That being said, is this even true?

I am using multipoolminer now mainly
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My current setup on: April 10, 2017, 08:17:29 AM
you can do everything you want in wattTool , you don't need afterburner at all.

How do you set memory and GPU clock in watttool?

Can watttool save settings?

647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My current setup on: April 09, 2017, 06:31:07 PM
The p state is wrong. It should go up in steps not randomly

I put better pics. Still not quite right. The one I showed before is a crashing configuration.
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My current setup on: April 09, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
You can try 1070 core, 2050mhz memory with 1625 straps, 850mv. Mine shows 80w (good cards) to 95w (bad silicone lottery) for eth dcr dual mining.

Are you using afterburner or watttool?
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / My current setup on: April 09, 2017, 05:30:55 PM


I am using 2 software. MSI afterburner. And watttool. I use MSI afterburner to overclock memory and underclock GPU. I use watttool to lower electric usage.

I wonder if there is a way I can pull this up with only 1 software.

Also my power according to MSI afterburner is 100 watt. I wonder if I can do 70 watt dual mining?

Can MSI afterburner reduce core voltage by more than 100mv?

Can it reduce memory voltage too?






650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / What is zpool? on: April 08, 2017, 03:59:40 PM
Is it a place where you can buy and sell hash like nicehash?

Is it PPS or PPLNS pool?

What?

https://www.zpool.ca/renting


Is this like miningpoolhub?
651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Need Pay Per Share Pool for various alt coins on: April 08, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
Anyone knows that?

I am making a trading bot and I want to test the bot without having to worry about variants for miner at the pool.

Anyone knows? Zpool?
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin. on: April 08, 2017, 03:47:30 PM
If we drop the assumption that
D
and
B
are fixed, this simple variant is not hopping-
proof. A participant’s contribution is determined by the current diffi
culty, while his reward is influenced by the future difficulty. Pool-hoppers can use knowledg
e of imminent difficulty adjustments to their advantage – joining when the difficulty is set to
decrease, and leaving when the difficulty is set to increase
. Another simple variant, where t
he number of shares is chosen as a given multiple of the difficulty at the time a block is found, su
ffers from similar problems.  To be completely hopping-proof, the following method, called “unit-PPLNS”,
should be used:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.4980.pdf

So if I mine when difficulty is low, I am mining when difficulty is set to increase. That paper says I should be leaving. If N is small enough it's not a big issue. But small N means bigger variant.

What the paper suggest is the same with what I suggested

When a share is submitted, store two attributes for it – units, eq
ual to the value of p at the time it was submitted, and amplifier, equal to the value of B
at the time it was vsubmitted

So each share should have a weight. That weight doesn't depend only on difficulty of stratum pool but also the inverse difficulty of the network. p in that paper is 1/D.

After that it gets complex. I would say just pay proportional to the unit but the guy has this complex formula. I got to look that up yet. Basically they have the same constant and whether you're in range or not depends on the 1/D of the block finding time.
653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I used RX 480 and got only 24MB/s rate on: April 08, 2017, 12:01:25 PM
I have a Sapphire RX 480 8GB Nitro + OC which runs at 1342 MHz (boost speed)
I copied the bios and edited the memory straps 1750 -> 2000.
With that I am getting about 28.1 MH/s (instead of 24)
The thing is, if I increase the memory speed to 2250 Mhz (or lower the core as well), that has no effect and the speed stays  at 28 MH/s.
really weird.. This happens on all of the cards I own..

Any ideas ?


You got to update the bios

Dowload polaris editor and atiwinflash

Then make sure you know how to switch to silent bios and via versa in your card.

Back up BOTH of your bios.

Then reply to this thread for your next lesson.
654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Need a Pool that's suitable for those with better timing on: April 08, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
the reward will not be the same, because the pool will find more blocks when the difficulty is low.
how that reflects to miners payment, depends on the share reward method.

That would happen is time between blocks are short compared to time for difficulty change. What about if difficulty change more often than time between blocks? If N is PPLNS is big enough the pay will be roughly the same.

the diff can't change more often than blocks, and there is always some smoothness in diff changes.
Really?

I saw https://miningpoolhub.com/ earns a lot in miningpoolhub.com. .037

Now it earns only .014999

So I mine when it worths .037. Quickly quit when it drops. However, I wonder if my hash really worth .037 BTC/Ghday when I send them? I would be sharing my rewards with those that mine when the value is lower.

Looks like I did make a bit of profit.

The share difficulty is negotiated between your mining software and the pool software - is is not related to the coin / algorithm difficulty.  The purpose of varying the client difficulty is to ensure shares are submitted regularly, but not so frequently as to create unnecessary load on the pool.

When a block is found, the pool software will assign the block reward (minus fee) proportionally across all miners holding valid shares.  The definition of a valid share will vary somewhat based on payment model the pool uses.

I am aware of that.

That is not the issue.

Anyway I am thinking of finding pps pool.

Is zpool pps?
655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin. on: April 08, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
could you please look into your zcoin pool?
Over the last few days i've gotten a maximum of ~70% of my hashrate credited by the pool. Usually i am even lower (40-50%).
I tested some other Pools and my hashrate was fine (only deviations you would expect).

Looking at my payout proves my point. I get around ~50-60% credited of what my hashrate should return when using MPH.
And as i said. I tested other Pools and the hashrate and payout are normal.

thanks in advance


I bought qubit hash to miningpoolhub about 18 hours ago. My software says that I should make 30% profit.

I bought at .026 per ghday/s. I like to say it's .026 per (86400 giga  hash) but 86400 is just 1 day per second.

 Miningpoolhub says that https://miningpoolhub.com/?page=home&normalize=none qubit worth .037 per ghday/s. It's for digibytequbit. Within 6 minutes a block is fine.

I got 5k digibytequbit. However, value of qubit drops to .015 ghday/s quickly.

Also 5k digibytequbit worths .002 BTC and I spent .015 to get it.

I am tracking where things fail.

digibyte qubit price is actually stable. Where can I check it's difficulty graph?

And then there's the issue.  I wonder if I am credited for mining at lower difficulty.

It seems that the game is to quickly mine got some blocks and stop when difficulty is higher.
656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Need a Pool that's suitable for those with better timing on: April 07, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
the reward will not be the same, because the pool will find more blocks when the difficulty is low.
how that reflects to miners payment, depends on the share reward method.

That would happen is time between blocks are short compared to time for difficulty change. What about if difficulty change more often than time between blocks? If N is PPLNS is big enough the pay will be roughly the same.

the diff can't change more often than blocks, and there is always some smoothness in diff changes.
Really?

I saw https://miningpoolhub.com/ earns a lot in miningpoolhub.com. .037

Now it earns only .014999

So I mine when it worths .037. Quickly quit when it drops. However, I wonder if my hash really worth .037 BTC/Ghday when I send them? I would be sharing my rewards with those that mine when the value is lower.

Looks like I did make a bit of profit.
657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Need a Pool that's suitable for those with better timing on: April 07, 2017, 03:16:07 PM
the reward will not be the same, because the pool will find more blocks when the difficulty is low.
how that reflects to miners payment, depends on the share reward method.

That would happen is time between blocks are short compared to time for difficulty change. What about if difficulty change more often than time between blocks? If N is PPLNS is big enough the pay will be roughly the same.
658  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool on: April 07, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
What do you guys think about this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1859108.msg18490571#msg18490571

Say you have the same machine but you have better timing (i.e. you buy nicehash hash at the right time). Pool should reward you more right?

It seems that most pool don't.

Is there such pool that reward more share weight to those with better timing?
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How do I reduce voltage further than -96 mV using MSI afterburner? on: April 07, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
I've heard msi afterburner can also reduce memory voltage. I wonder how.
660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Need a Pool that's suitable for those with better timing on: April 07, 2017, 08:08:27 AM
Imagine a pool having 2 people.

A mines for 1 minute when difficulty is 1000. Then B mine for 1 minute when difficulty is 1. Let's for simplicity sake difficulty change from 1 to 1000 to 1 to 1000 to 1 to 1000 every minute. Say they both got the same machine.

Every 1-2 hours the pool solve some blocks.

The way I understand it is that the pool got far more contribution from B than from A. B contribution to solve some blocks is higher because B provides hash when difficulty is lower.

However, in most pools, A and B will get roughly the exact same payment.

They submit the same number of shares for the same stratum difficulty.

Am I correct here?

This is important for those who are buying nicehash hash to sell to some other pool. Even though you time your buying when difficulty is low you are rewarded as much as anyone with worse timing,

Are there any pool that rewards you more when you mine at lower difficulty?

I am thinking of making my own pool. Any coins (or test coins) I can solo to test things out?
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