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641  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Slot, Roulette, Bit Spin | 99% Dice Released! on: December 25, 2016, 03:28:41 AM
His past games can be views on the site also those two lines showed how he was playing when he hit.
The verification results page you can search any users bets https://bitvest.io/results

I meant more in calendar terms?
642  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Method To Start Your Own VCC Shop Christmas Deal $5 Today - Autobuy on: December 25, 2016, 02:07:20 AM
Ads- I will be making the method to sell loaded vcc soon. Smiley
so exited.

Vcc can be loaded from $1 - $5000

No investment.

The price will be $100 for the method.

Complete legal.

It's called Coinizy or any of those types of sites...
643  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Method To Start Your Own VCC Shop Christmas Deal $5 Today - Autobuy on: December 25, 2016, 02:06:53 AM
You are correct, in my country PayPal charge $1.90 after card added, account verify they return the funds back.

Exactly...they can't charge or return funds to a card that doesn't exist
644  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ✔️💰✔️ Super Cheap ❤️ Windows Keys ❤️ [VOUCHED] + [PROOF] ✔️💰✔️ on: December 25, 2016, 12:59:14 AM

With the invites, you can redeem a few windows keys,
anyway, i sold them all.

If you want to buy keys send me a PM.

How many can you tell em?
645  Economy / Digital goods / Re: betting site script - gooood and cheap price on: December 25, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
Lolol so much for $900 starting price, eh?
646  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: December 25, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
Staking my address here: 1kqZHj33rmzKzZpUzJkEbxt3W4Mni2pKd

Signed message below (everything below is message until -----)

Verifying this message for fiscorcle
HwfmiSGDcT02O/1NyhQe0JIliI5Nb1iskPnHyg+OEvOcdzWGwyxSnYeC8T9Rwd4gAg0tbdoFszF9ygoKstXTRIU=

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647  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hack Into BitDice And Get 1BTC! on: December 25, 2016, 12:37:58 AM
Hey guys,

Whole thing was to prove default settings. As I've mentioned it in the first post, I did not set any additional security settings. This is security by default, which each user gets after registration. You can lower it, if you feel comfortable, or increase. It's up to you. But by default you should be as safe as your email provider.

Regarding security problems with email, your account still can be safe even if your email has been compromised. Just set 2FA. You can also set IP address lock, or withdrawal address lock. We provide as many options as you can possibly use.

Regards,
Alex

But if a hacker had hacked the email and he has the password to the account can't he just reset the withdrawal address and the IP address? Or by 2FA you mean other thing than email? I'm sorry if my question was a stupid one, I'm new to this thing.

They also have a 2FA option to use your phone as 2FA with Google Authenticator or similar. This is probably an even more secure method than email as they would have to have access to your phone in order to get the 2FA code.

2FA is more secure way that's why you need to be carefull.
When and if you enable it, you MUST store somewhere your 16-digit code/key.
If you don't and you loose your devise, you are in a black hole... Roll Eyes

Yeah, especially if it's for your e-mail, which as the 2-FA keys for the rest of your account, who would do something like that?

*looks around*

But seriously, always print out/write down your backup keys. ALWAYS!
648  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS]Office365 Global Admin ACC|Unlimited domain Email and 1TB onedrive[VOUCHED] on: December 25, 2016, 12:20:32 AM
I think, it is a very good offer to people who wish to temporarily access all features, but the long-term working is not guaranteed, if I understood right. That should not be an issue for such a price, but I still am wondering one thing. If I bought an account from you and it got disabled not due to my wrong doing, would you take guarantee on instant replacement with a new account? Would it be a free replacement or a paid one? That is an important question when it comes to business continuity.

Lol this is almost a word for word quote of what someone else posted in the last thread...interestng
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] BetBase SHARES | Invest in Bitcoin gambling | Escrow by RHavar on: December 25, 2016, 12:18:52 AM
5BTC? Founders should also invest in their own ICO only that should be more than 5. And in crowdfunding in general you first find investors than hope for network effect. A lot of red flags in your approach to this but gambling and blockchains does have a future for sure.

Lol shut up man, you obviously haven't read anything in this thread. 5BTC was the amount raised, and it wasn't nough
650  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com on: December 25, 2016, 12:17:46 AM
What about some kind of variable kelly option investors? Maybe the site maintains a constant kelly criterion, but investors could invest up to a certain kelly level that theyc an specify?
651  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ✔️💰✔️ Super Cheap ❤️ Windows Keys ❤️ [VOUCHED] + [PROOF] ✔️💰✔️ on: December 25, 2016, 12:13:49 AM
Bump !!!!
5 last invites for sale, price $30 each !!!!


Invites or keys?

Invites

Sorry what's the difference?
652  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Slot, Roulette, Bit Spin | 99% Dice Released! on: December 25, 2016, 12:13:30 AM

Any idea how N8 has eben betting on BV?
653  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Method To Start Your Own VCC Shop Christmas Deal $5 Today - Autobuy on: December 25, 2016, 12:13:01 AM
hi

is that work with other site like facebook or google?

which country vcc is that, would you pls tell this atleast?


thanks

This method works worldwide.

Only loaded vcc works with facebook and google yes.

Empty Vcc works well with paypal to verify your account.

Start your VCC's shop today.

Empty VCC doesn't work for paypal? They charge the number and you have to confirm deposits. Don't spread false information
654  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com on: December 24, 2016, 06:37:47 AM
My question here is... is there any tangible difference between:

10 bets at y for 10% (10x)
100 bets at 1/10y for 10% (10x)?

Well, let's look at a simpler case:

Is there any tangible difference between:

a) betting 1 BTC at 50% (1.98x)
b) betting 0.5 BTC at 50% (1.98x) twice

Both risk 1 BTC, so both have an expected profit of -0.01%.

Let's look at the possible outcomes:

a) has 50% chance of profit 0.98 BTC and 50% chance of profit -1 BTC
b) has 25% chance of profit 0.98 BTC, 25% chance of profit -1 BTC, and 50% chance of profit -0.01

So the maximum and minimum profits are the same, but b) (betting a smaller amount, more times) fills in the middle. The extreme outcomes become less likely the more you subdivide your bet, and the expected outcome becomes more likely. In the extreme, if you bet a single satoshi 100 million times (ignoring rounding), you will be very likely to have a profit very close to the expected profit of -0.01 BTC

For the players, their only hope of winning is to beat the expectation, and so their best strategy (assuming they have a fixed amount to bet, and have to bet at a certain chance of winning) is to make a single large bet.

We could plot the outcomes against the chance of them happening. Both charts would have the same "center of mass" (ie. the expected profit, -1%), but the chart where the bets were divided up more would be more pointy, with the outcomes concentrated around the expected -1% point.

Edit: I missed the end of your question:

Such that let's say it were capped at 100x. Doing this:
If (win) bet wonAmount at 100x
if (lose) returntoBase

Would be the same as just betting straight at 10,000x? Or is there something I'm missing here? In #1, you'd have a 1%*1% chance, or 0.01% = 1/10,000 chance. In the second, you'd still have a 1/10,000 chance.

I think the player is at a disadvantage if you limit them to 100x. They effectively pay 1% of everything they stake.

If they can bet 1 BTC at 10,000x, their expected profit is -0.01 BTC.
But if they can only bet at 100x, they have to bet 1 BTC at 100x, then 100 BTC at 100x. That second bet has an expected profit of -1% of 100 BTC, ie. -1 BTC.

The strategy "bet 1 BTC at 100x, and if I win, bet 100 BTC at 100x" has an expected profit of -0.01 BTC for the first bet, and -0.0099 for the second bet (0.99% chance of having to make the 2nd bet, and an expect profit of -1 BTC if you have to make it, for an overall expectation of -0.0099 BTC), for a total of -0.0199 BTC. That's very nearly twice as bad for the player as if you let them make a single bet.

I didn't actually think about the house edge problem before, that's a very good point - of course the same point could be made about a max-profit.

Then again there have to be limits at some point, whales wiping out the bankroll is never a good thing
655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKing.io ICO - Bitcoin Gambling website - 581.4 BTC raised so far on: December 24, 2016, 06:35:04 AM
I've made quite a few changes to just make the existing site better while the ico is going on.
Added rakeback and jackpot promos, made things look a bit better and improved chat and pm system a lot.

Nothing major like new product as that will be decided after ICO what we do first but not sitting about waiting either Wink

Also got the possibility of launching a version of BetKing for runescape gold. Seems to be a large amount of users interested in that and a lot of volume potential.

Investors of the ICO will get a share of profit from that site too since it's part of BetKing.

Thanks

That sounds brilliant - especially since its pretty unregulated from what I hear, and totally unregulated if it's at all like what I remember...
656  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS]Office365 Global Admin ACC|Unlimited domain Email and 1TB onedrive[VOUCHED] on: December 23, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
Wont take Microsoft long to block these accounts and tag them as fraud.
If you want get totally safety. Just buy from MS.
I just promise that all account i sold out have all benefit i said above,and i will give after-sales service like other guys reply.


Lol what would you expect for $2.50? Come on...

Err think for a moment, onedrive acces gone, access to email gone.

I checked this guys accounts 16 of them disabled for fraud, lucky one of them i think 16/15 was re-enabled luckly.

Gotta be a complete idiot to save and use data on an account that will get disabled. (using VPN was the worst idea to create them)

(should hide the company name on the example, easy to get all the .onmicrosoft.com tenants from it).

I only checked them to ensure you guys were safe.

So that you think you have check them all but please post you evidence.

Editing post:

removing comments

Lol so are you conceding that you were being an idiot?

657  Economy / Digital goods / Re: ✔️💰✔️ Super Cheap ❤️ Windows Keys ❤️ [VOUCHED] + [PROOF] ✔️💰✔️ on: December 23, 2016, 09:19:42 PM
Bump !!!!
5 last invites for sale, price $30 each !!!!


Invites or keys?
658  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com on: December 23, 2016, 09:18:16 PM
Maximum multiplier: 9900x

[...] all I'd have to do is stack multiple smaller multiplier bets together [...]

Attempts to circumvent our rules would result in having API service cut off.

Are you saying that if I make a small bet at 1,000x and win, then place the winnings on another 1,000x bet I would be "attempting to circumvent your rules", because the net win would be 1,000,000x?

No, but if the app does it, I assume they would be attempting to circumvent the rules

What if it isn't done automatically? If I created an app, had the player place the first bet, and if he won, I could have them press a button that says continue or cashout, and keep going till I won 7 BTC from 70 satoshi or another amount.

Or what if placing a bet tips the amount to a site owned bot (or having the player directly place a bet like what I outlined), which would bet 1 BTC and 70 satoshi, with a chance to either lose 70 satoshi (very high chance), a chance to win 1 BTC and x amount for 4/6, a chance to win 1 BTC and x amount for 5/6, and 8 BTC? (using Dust Lottery's current set up as an example)

Well, first there are no more forced tips I believe I saw. Second, if you have to decide in between the first and second bets, then that's a completely different situation.  I really don't see how you see them the same at all
They are different. I'm simply asking because someone could run a game like that, and add an auto betting feature where it would cash out after x wins. People that wanted to play dust lottery could do that, and it wouldn't be circumventing the rules I think.

Lol then you might be in violation - I can't speak to that then
659  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS]Office365 Global Admin ACC|Unlimited domain Email and 1TB onedrive[VOUCHED] on: December 23, 2016, 07:28:10 PM
Wont take Microsoft long to block these accounts and tag them as fraud.
If you want get totally safety. Just buy from MS.
I just promise that all account i sold out have all benefit i said above,and i will give after-sales service like other guys reply.


Lol what would you expect for $2.50? Come on...

Err think for a moment, onedrive acces gone, access to email gone.

I checked this guys accounts 16 of them disabled for fraud, lucky one of them i think 16/15 was re-enabled luckly.

Gotta be a complete idiot to save and use data on an account that will get disabled. (using VPN was the worst idea to create them)

(should hide the company name on the example, easy to get all the .onmicrosoft.com tenants from it).

I only checked them to ensure you guys were safe.

a) How do you know all his accounts
b) onmicrosoft.com is a microsoft domain you idiot

wtf are you talking about at all?
660  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com on: December 23, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
Maximum multiplier: 9900x

[...] all I'd have to do is stack multiple smaller multiplier bets together [...]

Attempts to circumvent our rules would result in having API service cut off.

Are you saying that if I make a small bet at 1,000x and win, then place the winnings on another 1,000x bet I would be "attempting to circumvent your rules", because the net win would be 1,000,000x?

No, but if the app does it, I assume they would be attempting to circumvent the rules

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works but I thought the app just does whatever the user asks it to do. The user asks the app to play two 1000x bets in a row, so the app passes the requests on to MP. How is MP meant to know whether the bets were initiated by a real user or by the app itself? And why would it care?

If MP investors are happy to bankroll a 1000x bet of 100 satoshis, paying out 100k satoshis, and also to bankroll a bet of 100k satoshis paying out 1 BTC, would they really not be willing to bankroll those two bets one after the other? It seems unfair to cut off an app because one of its users got too lucky.

Suppose I start with 100 satoshis and try to repeatedly double it on 2x bets. After my 10th win in a row I will have 1024x'ed my starting bet. Will the app have its MP service cut off because it has circumvented the 1000x limit rule? I think the new rules need to be more clearly stated.

hi

now I am confused or lets see

I understand max multiplier will be x9900

max profit will be 0.5% of BR

what you are describing is martingale and why should martingale be not allowed? a player cant win more than 0.5% of the BR anyway so his martingale attempt will be stopped latest when max profit is reached and MP will not accept next bet that would need to pay out more than 0.5% of BR

please correct me if I am wrong or more confused now Smiley

I agree a more detailed explanation would be very much appreciated because the discussion looks all about dust lottery and dust lottery cant work with a x9900 multiplayer anyway

edit
with martingale I mean reverse martingale = Paroli

I think what he means is if someone manages to multiply their balance by 1024x (or possibly anything else that exceeds their limit) doing reverse martingale , should that be considered circumventing their rules. If not, where does the line go?

I mean mathematically they're equivalent, so I gotta think that they're looking at the psychological side of it. Making 10 consecutive bets like that (assuming it's a high value wager) would be harder than making one "aw fuck it" bet. Those aw fuck it bets are the ones that break the bank
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