Anduck oh you again ? Hello.
Seems like from all the people around you are the only one asking questions which had already answer.
Actually I do answer this few times, and there is almost 8 pages in 2 different threads to find your answer for the very same questions again and again.
For 6th time, I didn't travel specially to meet this guy, I travel to Peru for different reasons and not specially and only to meet this person.
To teeGUMES, this pictures were provided to me also with TXT file in flash drive.
Those pictures were taken before we meet ( I guess ).
Because in first place when he realized the coin is double funded and started his plan, he already made his scam plan in few parts so it can be successful.
I will repeat myself again, this is planed scam and planed before we meet.
Its just I were the guy who take the bite.
drbitcoinve is really convincing person and he know what he's doing.
I don't expect him to do wrong move because so far his acts were brilliant and just in time.
This scam is not a daily/hourly challenge, this is plan from at least 1-2 weeks before he find a victim.
This was the only opportunity for him to actually take the total amount from the double funded coin.
He know I wont be able to unload my coin because its double funded and had all the time needed to setup a perfect plan, prepare thread on this forum, contact titanbtc and also fabricate fake conversation using two telegrams.
Sadly I exchanged few pms with TitanBTC and seems like their ego cannot force the truth.
The hours I give to TitanBTC to refund me is ticking away, and this will go to reddit and many other forums and websites.
In matter of fact I have few surprised in the end for all of you which is PM's from TitanBTC which will become public.
All of you will be highly surprised how the owner of TitanBTC washing his hands.
Just hush, you locked your thread after dodging all of the questions because " hOw CaN fOrUm MeMbERs dO AnYTHiNg To HeLp yOu" Now I seen drbitcoinve come back and I want to see if these questions can be answered by him. Sick of your walls of text that don't explain anything. Even if you were scammed its getting harder and harder to even give a shit about you. |
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drbitcoinve I have one last question. this picture, was it suggested to you to be done by Pichotklasa or was it for a TitanBTC fake representative over telegram.  if you could provide some sort of chat log for proof even better. |
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P.S: to Anduck. No matter is none of your business, your questions were answered. learn to read.
Sorry, but I don't see answers to my questions. Could you please answer again? I have a bunch of new Q's too if you don't mind. I'm trying to help you here. 1) Did you buy the physical Titan coin? 2) Was there a hologram in it? Was it intact? 3) Did you peel the hologram of the coin yourself? 4) Do you have the redeem code which is/was under the hologram? None of your business but feel free to read -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50937711) The metal coin not, the full infos about using it yes. 2) I had only the infos from it so I could take control of it and change email and password. 3) obviously no 4) I do have ALL the infos not only redeem code but coin id, coin password, coin email. Then you've been scammed. The coin is a physical token, that's the real thing. All the infos you've received are only part of the 2FA thing. The physical coin has a redeem code in it, which is needed to redeem it. Titan's 2FA stuff is not enough.. Can you describe the process of transferring this 2FA stuff (coin id, associated email) to you? I can be scammed only if TitanBTC allow that. 2FA coins are handled by human hand after verification they didn't do. They didn't requested up to date coin password and email but old dated infos from the original owner who sold me the coin and scammed me and them. I didn't received a part of 2FA thing I received FULL info about the coin. Full details for redeem request so I can verify myself as the new owner. There is no half or part 2FA thing. I have the FULL infos and no one else. This physical coin have 2fa,coin id,coin password,coin email. The previous owner cannot provide full up to date infos to be verified as the current owner of it because only I can. If you want anything to be described to you, visit titanbtc website and you can see how a 2FA coin should be redeemed. Obviously they bypass-ed their own "security" by letting someone using the coin without valid up to date infos such as coin password and email, which is not my fault. The coin in question was overloaded with 2 BTC. Not once do you talk about this. (You apparently paid him with a sack of cash for 1 BTC) You have phished drbitcoinve and think you're a genius with this Scam Accusation but luckily in this case the information you didn't know was that the coin was overloaded with 2 BTC. You socially engineered drbitcoinve through telegram pretending to be a representative from TitanBTC and I am sure that is how you were able to transfer ownership of the coin id and coin password to your own. You then probably manipulated him into sending the picture of the 2fa code underneath the hologram which you have showed us a picture of. Luckily for the actual owner there was previously a hold reservation on this coin due to the overloading of it. Get the fuck off our forum you scumbag. |
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You dodge too many important questions for me to want to continue helping here.. im out.
Its like you bought a key for a Lamborghini, meet up with a guy and he goes.. "yea heres the key its over there in the parking garage" .. "alright man seeya later thanks for the 250k." Then you walk down into the parking garage and your key opens up a Honda Civic.
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The original owner of this coin does not speak of selling his coin, only redemption of it. But Picho has pictures of it peeled and 2fa code showing. Why would pictures like this even exist unless scam attempt.
Edit: Can you show an email with intent to sell Picho? Without any invasive or private information showing.
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-snip- But that's not something that TitanBTC require to unload your coin ? And the previous owner do not have access to the hologram? Thanks for your concern but your statements are not right. Take a look at titanbtc website what is required for 2FA coin to be unloaded. I am trying to explain from 2days that actually the old owner could provide only outdated infos and not a single actual one than the coin id and coin 2fa code. And that's far away from enough for you to prove you are the original owner, because if that was enough, this other case won't exist ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026181I could be wrong here, but I believe you need the coin id / password / whatever the code is underneath the hologram correct? Please correct me if I am wrong, I have been trying to find this information from someone that has successfully redeemed one of these coins themselves. You need: CoinID/CoinPass/Coin Email/Coin 2FA. The previous owner can provide only coin id and coin 2fa, but not coin pass and coin email because he don't have access to them. He cannot provide also up to date picture of the hologram because it was destroyed for my own security as new owner so he could not use it in future for fraud. Sadly, that didn't help the case and he bypass the security even when he don't have all the sensitive infos. He had 2/5 of what is required coin to be unloaded Picho I am sorry if what you are saying is all true. As bitcoiners we need to always err on the side of caution. I myself have lost 20+ bitcoin due to scam investments and just random bullshit, BUT never once have I fallen for a peeled hologram. This is most likely going to be chalked up to a loss for you unless you can provide chat logs/plane ticket/cash withdrawal receipt to TitanBTC and even then it is tough because you don't actually have the physical coin itself. 2fa coins opened itself to this sort of social engineering scam and Titan Mint realized it and discontinued this line of coins, thank god. If you continue down this road of being a bitcoin coin collector and have questions about whether or not something is shady there are always those of us in the Collectibles forum that can spot a potential scam a mile away, just come in and ask. Drop the hostility towards us users, we are just trying to get facts right ( some of them own their own 2fa coins and want piece of mind aswell ). Also, paying cash screwed you over here aswell, hard to track, bitcoin we could have at least been shown a txid and confirmed what may have been a sale on the blockchain. Edit to add: As I said before, the most important piece of information is the coin 2fa code that is under the hologram itself, almost everything else can be phished/malware logged from your computer. The only solid offline portion in this whole ordeal is the 2fa code underneath the hologram and since drbitcoinve still is in possession of that, I believe this is why TitanBTC sided with him/her. |
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-snip- But that's not something that TitanBTC require to unload your coin ? And the previous owner do not have access to the hologram? Thanks for your concern but your statements are not right. Take a look at titanbtc website what is required for 2FA coin to be unloaded. I am trying to explain from 2days that actually the old owner could provide only outdated infos and not a single actual one than the coin id and coin 2fa code. And that's far away from enough for you to prove you are the original owner, because if that was enough, this other case won't exist ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026181I could be wrong here, but I believe you need the coin id / password / whatever the code is underneath the hologram correct? Please correct me if I am wrong, I have been trying to find this information from someone that has successfully redeemed one of these coins themselves. |
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Now tell me guys from your viewpoint because we may have different one. Lets pretend that you own 2FA coin and you are second owner. Will you feel responsible after securing the coin that someone get in thru the TitanBTC security ? Will someone can force you to wait, force you to hold or force you anything that prevent you from owning your funds from the coin you purchased? Who is the guilty ? The team which didin't follow their own security ways to unload the coin no matter they were manipulated with stories and old dated "proofs" that are not longer valid ? You as holder or they as people who offer you security for your money/coins? What fault have the second owner of the 2FA coin about they bypassing their own rules and letting previous owner with old infos to unload something that's not belong to him anymore ? How can someone force you to co-operate in any investigation except the local police ? Yes I will help him with information because I have nothing to hide and I am not the person who should be afraid of investigation, but that doesn't mean I should be forced or accept anything he telling me right? As current original owner of my coin all I want is access to it and nothing more. I want access to what is mine. If they provided someone else access to what is mine, they should refund what is mine because that's not my mistake. The scammer didn't break thru my security, he breat thru their own security. Don't get me wrong, I am totally fine with investigation and if TitanBTC needs my help he will receive it. But not before I own what is mine. Why ? Just because it is mine. Nothing more nothing less. It is not a redflag to buy something that you have secured. Something that the owner don't have access to. A circle metal piece don't give you any special access but only the sensitive information from i All the sensitive information belongs to me, and no one else have access to the coin email and password. This metal circle of metal cannot provide me more or less security than I had and than I have. Their 2FA coins are secured not only by 2FA but also coin email and password which they strictly require for unload. They are there for reason right? What evidence ? Do you read that the previous owner cannot complete the security checks to verify his up to date ownership ? I am the only one who can. They redeem requirement requires them, only I have them. That's the only valid security this coin provide you except the 2FA. I don't need police, I don't need lawyers, TitanBTC needs, he were scammed out of something which not belong to him. He gave access to something which is not his without requesting the up to date infos. Why you ignoring the fact that the smart scammer just bypass their security with setup no proof based story and with old infos ? Why I should need police consider I can verify my ownership and that I own 1bitcoin ? TitanBTC is responsible for his coin security, if there is something wrong with them, he needs to fix it not me ? He let the scammer took the bitcoin not me ? Why I should search anything else than the one who owns what's mine? I don't understand your viewpoint ? There is guide how you should unload your coin ( www.titanbtc.com/redeem ) and the scammer could not finish it because he don't have email and password. Simple as that. If someone of titanbtc let them in, how that could be my problem ? The portions of information that you figured were yours(when you changed them) and that you figured were safe are available to be phished or stolen through malware or social engineering. The only piece that is 100% completely private and secure is what is underneath the hologram. You do not have the coin and the person who sold you the coin peeled it and had access to that vital piece of information before you. |
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  I am very sorry but this was the biggest red flag out there and you should never have went through with a sale after seeing the peel / void showing through hologram. Social engineering of scams is only going to rise in the years to come and these are things you need to see through to avoid being taken advantage of. Your best bet now is to follow through with TitanBTC's advice and compile all the evidence you have and hopefully come to a conclusion with/without police or lawyers involved. As for future sales/instances like this.. after seeings these pictures I would not have left the meeting without having transferred the bitcoin to a wallet that I own. The holograms don't lie. The intent to scam/steal was right there. Don't ever trust just changing a username/password.. phishing and malware have lost a lot of people their coins aswell. |
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Pichotklasa please provide picture of physical coin with peeled hologram. Thanks.
Also deep down this feels like a scam that involves two people that know eachother and think they can exploit Titan Mint 2fa coins. (honestly i hate the idea of a 2fa coin)
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Can you verify that he link leading to legit TitanBTC website? Also please look at e-mail source as "from" field can be faked. I will consider that as stupid joke from someone not familiar with 2FA Titan coins... You get that email when u change your coin email and password. If you don't know what to say don't say anything. I am not here to learn you stuff, I am here to report a scam. Now please stop spamming in my thread or I will start report your posts. Thank you. Even if you were in fact scammed you are a complete idiot. Many of the people here are asking questions to help get to the bottom of this and figure out whether you (the supposed buyer) or the seller was the scammer. These aren't just people that frequent the Scam Accusations board, we are actually buyers of thousands of coins that are often loaded with 1 BTC+. If you were able to give out enough information and it were verified true then those of us from the COLLECTIBLES community would be able to put enough pressure on TitanBTC to make things right. Currently you're being labelled as a douchebag (look it up since English isn't your first language). None of us want to put up with your shit attitude anymore and you can now deal with TitanBTC alone, and it is apparent they have sided with the seller of the coin. Good luck in your endeavor alone. |
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You flew internationally to another continent with cash in hand. Gave thousands of dollars to a stranger in cash and left without the coin.....that's the story? And did you know there was 2btc on the coin when you bought it?
Well didn't know people should visit other country with empty pockets. In fact I had much more than the coin value, actually x3 or x4 of the value for different things. I mean, that's not millions, im not sure how you are surprised people visit other country with some money with them just in case or for some gifts or anything. And we all are strangers when we meet new person to deal with... The claim itself is an answer. I left with the valuable part of the coin and not the metal one with promises I will have also the "precious" metal coming with the valuable part. And no, I didn't know there was 2btc on the coin. If I know that I would want to sweep the coin right after I got the infos for it. That would be a free 1btc for me if I know it. And I don't want 2 bitcoins, all I want is what I bought. A bitcoin. How can failure of TitanBTC security can be my problem ? Because based on the situation that's what we all see (correct me if I am wrong). The previous original owner of the coin were able to sweep the coin using old dated infos. The previous original owner cannot redeem the code by the requested secured and requested way from TitanBTC which is to provide up to date valid proof of ownership because the previous owner don't have the coin password and email. I don't want anything else than what's mine. Nothing more nothing less. If they have security problems or someone bypass their security somehow, they should double think how they store the funds and how they serve their customers. And not in last place to follow their own security ways to redeem their own coins. By providing all valid UP-TO-DATE information including coin email and coin password. In a person to person trade you do not hand over cash and walk away without first moving the bitcoin to an address that you yourself control the private key for. I am very sorry if you are indeed sincere here but you did this to yourself. Consider using a bitcoin exchange or localbitcoins if you want to buy bitcoin with cash. Judging by TitanBTC's response I don't think we are getting the full story. You didn't even check the public address to see if the coin was funded(and in this case overfunded) It appears there is a "Verify Value" and code on the hologram of TitanBTC coins that you didn't take the time to load up the website and use. |
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The previous owner cannot provide full up to date infos to be verified as the current owner of it because only I can.
How was ownership transferred? Pinky swear from what I can tell. |
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TitanBTC or anybody else around reading, can you post a picture of a Titan coin with a semi-peeled hologram?
There are tamper proof holograms on almost every single physical bitcoin collectible out there, if you are meeting with someone and see the usual "honeycomb" pattern then you should not be buying the coin as the private key has been compromised.
Pinky swears and promises don't count for shit in the bitcoin world.
Also TitanBTC can you confirm that with the information displayed on your 2fa coins that the buyer would have been able to confirm that this coin was indeed funded with an additional bitcoin through a block explorer. (I am unfamiliar with your 2fa coins)
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I laugh hard at the way you are trying to wash your hands how smart scammer managed to scam you of the value of my coin because I am the new and original owner with the full infos for it. It is interesting how he bypass your "security" with OLD and out dated infos. We all know who is responsible if someone used my coin without having current the coin password and email. If you let all original owners who re-sell their coins to scam the amounts from the coins after selling them, believe me, not only your business is dead but your name in the bitcoin community. No one than you can help the old owner to scam the value inside my coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093771You resolved issue ?  There was never issue, the OP is scammer who sold me the coin and then claimed this issue so he can steal the value inside the coin he sold me you stupid idiot. Your security problems will cost you a bitcoin not me if you let him steal the coin value without him having the password and email of the coin in the very right time he sweep it. because I am the only one who have it and not the OP scammer. Theres such a thing as a bitcoin blockchain that provides proof of transactions when you purchase something from somebody. Let's see your txid with a signed message from the address you paid from. Aswell, this is a perfect and prime example of why ESCROW should be used. Edit to add: TitanBTC has many many loaded coins worth 10s of if not 100s of thousands of dollars in the hands of collectors. Their due diligence on something like this is a little more complex than you may think, theres a lot at stake if they make a mistake. I agree with you, but consider we are already 2019 and scammers becoming more and more smart TitanBTC team should be also smart. OP is the most smart scammer I ever meet in my entire life. From what I gather as information from TitanBTC posts so far I realized that after the guy sold me the coin, he instantly contacted them about problem to sweep the coin. He open thread here on this forum and also claims that some scam artists contacted the OP via telegram pretending to be him. Obviously he's pulling himself as 3rd way impersonating scam victim meanwhile trying to scam me (which was done consider titanbtc confirmed he "fixed" his issue) and scam the coin inside. In few words: he taking the money from me for the coin, contact titan about coin issue and providing old out dated infos trying to sweep the coin so he can scam my cash and the coin value. TitanBTC letting him sweep the coin with old dated infos even with the proper knowledge coin owners can be changed but doing mistake to help person who don't know the current coin password and email but only old infos as first and original owner of the coin. The case is OP scammed TitanBTC which he sold me, he scammed TitanBTC not myself because I have full and valid up to date infos to verify I am the owner of the coin since it was sold to me and based on their redeem rules no one than me should be able to use the coin. Op scammed titanbtc which is not my problem. My coin value must be refunded and titanbtc should follow their own security rules. (In order to use 2fa coin up to date password and email should be provided). Otherwise every single re-seller of their 2FA coins can scam the buyer and after that sweep the coin getting help from their team with the old original infos. I am looking forward to receive my 1btc that I bought and I am the current original owner of. Valid proof of ownership can be requested from me anytime in private. Also I contacted them from the same email the coin is registered to. P.S: to teeGUMES, cash in hand don't have TX I am sorry. This scammer (OP) is currently based in Peru Cash in hand but you never received the physical coin itself? Also particular coin has been stated to have had a second bitcoin loaded onto it and in your previous post you state you want your one bitcoin. Things just do not add up here. You would have been able to check the public address and see it had two bitcoin on it which OP and TitanBTC both have confirmed in one way or another. Did you think this was a 50% off deal? |
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I laugh hard at the way you are trying to wash your hands how smart scammer managed to scam you of the value of my coin because I am the new and original owner with the full infos for it. It is interesting how he bypass your "security" with OLD and out dated infos. We all know who is responsible if someone used my coin without having current the coin password and email. If you let all original owners who re-sell their coins to scam the amounts from the coins after selling them, believe me, not only your business is dead but your name in the bitcoin community. No one than you can help the old owner to scam the value inside my coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093771You resolved issue ? There was never issue, the OP is scammer who sold me the coin and then claimed this issue so he can steal the value inside the coin he sold me you stupid idiot. Your security problems will cost you a bitcoin not me if you let him steal the coin value without him having the password and email of the coin in the very right time he sweep it. because I am the only one who have it and not the OP scammer. Theres such a thing as a bitcoin blockchain that provides proof of transactions when you purchase something from somebody. Let's see your txid with a signed message from the address you paid from. Aswell, this is a perfect and prime example of why ESCROW should be used. Edit to add: TitanBTC has many many loaded coins worth 10s of if not 100s of thousands of dollars in the hands of collectors. Their due diligence on something like this is a little more complex than you may think, theres a lot at stake if they make a mistake. |
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OP says his coin shows 2BTC loaded. If the accuser can show the same pub address with 2BTC loaded we can tell if it is the same coin or not.
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This is lie and I already have send email to titanbtc
You sold me that coin and you don't even have access to the coin email and password.
I hope TitanBTC wasn't stupid enough to fail in this failed scam attempt consider you don't have access to the coin email and password.
It is funny how scam artists like you coming here after selling the coin to claim you can't redeem it.
Nice try.
Provide proof with pictures (username and current date required) so we can appropriately red tag this. OP could possibly be referring to another coin if he had bought more than one. Sale looks to have been private and not done publicly on this board. |
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If you want to charge this much money for Bitcoin branded items your BTC needs to improve a lot. As it stands right now half of the items on that website are laughable.
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