Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange They are burning unsold token which may likely bring the total 300m to a very reduced amount plus the different plants already set and more to come, there is no way value of FRNC won't improve over time You're right about the value increasing and a part of me believes that even if they don't end up burning the tokens which i doubt, the need for the token will be so much that it will likely be a scare resource in the future, sounds funny but there's a high probability of that happening, is realistic, is just a matter of time and the whole process will fall in place I saw some estimates on the 4NEW price channel that it could be about 100m tokens that end up getting burned. That means technically, each KWATT would be worth 33% more, and would embody 33% more electric. Where did you see this information, whats the source - i'll be interested to read that, wasn't aware of a burn! Especially 100m tokens :O Impressive and good news for holders! |
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Why you are better than other?
Hello, markbo1210. Our service is different from competitors that offer for example plastic crypto cards or wallets services. We create not only services for end customers, but also an ecosystem for connecting exchanges, payment services, banks, offering their services, and using the opportunity to place their bids. At the same time, all participants in the system are identified by KYC and conduct transactions in the legal field. Customer benefits: mobile application, a plastic card with binding to any crypto currency, the ability to safely store crypto currency, fast and cheap money transfers. The benefits of partners (fintech services) will receive a stream of orders, and if the partner wants to increase this flow - it reduces the commission, which allows the partner to get more customers. As a result, everyone wins, both users of the system and financial services. First of all you, as a potential client and investor. Under this link, you can learn more about the benefits and opportunities that the ecosystem participants receive. On the question of who are your competitors? we will respond simply. We do not have competitors, we have partners. Video: https://youtu.be/nG2vhkbPOn8I always appreciate your replies Erik Fox, very detailed and easy to follow. The benefits to customers is huge, a card binding to any crypto currency ... wow! I love the idea of the all in one ecosystem too, it's a massive task ahead of you guys and I wish you the best of luck, if you can pull it off this is going to be mega. card binding to any cryptocurrency is definitely a very good idea. I would like to see how CryptoOcean team is going to implement the same. WIll be very exciting to see how they go about doing this in the end. I will be following for sure, it sounds like it will certainly help the crypto industry out. |
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Speaking of Amazon. I know they seem soo far ahead but we have to keep in mind that Amazon has its flaws, too. I know of some brands who resigned from selling their goods there because Amazon also sells fakes of the same brand on their platform. Not to forget all the horror stories you can find where Amazon workers speak about the working conditions.
Amazon is not the best one in the field however there is no better option than Amazon at this moment. Implementation of blockchain could give much more benefits to Amazon if they also implement it or use platforms like Vanig. I'm sure we will see blockchain be utilized and used more and more as it gets further developed with interesting projects like Vanig. It's good to be part of one of the first projects looking to grasp the huge e-commerce industry |
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I think the confusion over kyc is driving ICOs nuts as most think they are exempt then when they get advisors they end up getting advised to do kyc anyway to protect the project and company from issues down the line or that’s what I would imagine is the case
It would be nice for projects to do as much research as they can and probably get good advisers from the very beginning so that plans for kyc can be done from the on set. It is a long old procedure especially when the community is rapidly forever growing, I expect they will be expanding resources to help manage as the project expands further. Can't wait for the stingminer to finally be released. Will it be available for virtual machines too straight away? |
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I dont know whether this has already been shared here. Check this option about getting double rewards.. https://www.superbloom.com/2xrewardsPeople need to invest as low as 1 ETH to get the benefits. That is a really nice shout, I wasn't aware of this and it's good to see a low amount of 1 ETH at current market prices which is only around $550. Very tempted to invest some right now |
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What I can see on Bitfence homepage? "STINGMINER LAUNCH IN: 32 days". They raised their require funds (2000 ETH Goals)? Anyone have any information about it? How much amount they raised yet?
What happened their 2000 ETH goals in stage -1? I thought they have stage 2 also. But don't know why they changed suddenly here? Stingminer launching plan was in Q3 or Q4? Nothing wrong with them bringing it forward! The crowdsale was meant to end in July though, so not sure what's happened there Stingminer launch is after 32 days, mean 1st week of July. So may be they will launch stingminer and simultaneously keep the crowd sale going? After seeing the successful launch of products, may be more and more people will join token sale. I guess so too, it's a marketing strategy, a working product means project plan is solid, I agree with the wisdom behind the move I agree. It's nice strategy. I can see token sale is not going fast. And I was expecting some different approach from BitFence team. It's good they decided to launch product during ICO Yeah it will give the ico a good boost because if they have a working product they are already making a lot of profit. It will certainly help within 30 days when they release the stingminer - this will get alot more people interested when it's released, I'm sure many people will be interested to download it and see how it works |
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I have not visited this Vanig project for just few days, but I feel I am coming here after a month. Lots of changes (positive for Vanig) happened in just few days. Good going Vanig team.
yes, everything seems to be going very fast. Maybe it will continue at this rate and they can do some points of the roadmap earlier But actually I'm in no hurry :-) It would be nice to see the roadmap completed earlier than scheledue but on the same note - it's good for projects to take their time to ensure everything is done in procedure and within time scale ensuring nothing is rushed and everything runs smoothly as planned |
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Interesting piece, highlights the benefits of investing in CryptOcean i read its the first its kind with no competitors. I'll be sure to purchase some CryptOcean token Nice review and short intro. In this article they said we can this platform to pay bills, salaries and lot of other transactions wherever banks do. It is really nice concept. Yep it’s all going to come down to adoption I’m hopeful for the team as they seem to have done a lot of legwork lining up the plan and roadmap and have a grasp of what difficulties may lie ahead hopefully they can get strong real world adoption and usage Given they have achieved the soft cap they have made a great achievement. I think if they are able to provide a prototype of the plastic cards that would really take this to another dimension. Softcap is already achieved? I thought this project is just started. I am still checking the details/whitepaper of the project and yet to decide if it's good to invest or not  Hello, Anilbg. Achieved 159% of Private Pre-ICO Softcap. From 15.05 started Pre-ICO at the present moment collected 1009864 $. The collection for this stage is divided into 3 levels and the minimum amount is $ 3000000. Thank you for your question  Wow, that's some impressive stats - 159% of private pre-ico - what bonus was given at this stage? I hope to see further marketing to try and reach the end goal of $ 3000000. |
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Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange I am also planning to hold tokens for long term, but I still want to see 4new trading at exchange soon after listing. That's give additional confidence. It is nice to see them list on an exchange as it offers further awareness on the trading platform giving an opportunity to grow the project further. I hope we will see a listing post-ICO but either way I'm going to be holding the tokens for the foreseeable future as I genuinely believe in the project |
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Apart from the fact that one gets paid to lure hackers, the feeling of being part of something important give one a nice feeling and the believe that you're helping to make the internet safer has a nice ring to it.
Was just thinking, how will it really feel in reality? I mean if just the thought of it alone makes one feel nice about, how will the act of literally nabbing a hacker feel like?? #FBI_feeling y'all  Do you physically get s hacker? No, you just have the ability of detecting and preventing a hacker from gaining access to a network. Of course you don't physically get the hackers, by "literally nabbing a hacker" I meant the feeling of being paid and knowing you just reduced the numbers of hackers in the world by one. I mean then it won't just be a statement any more but an act. Lmao physically getting a hacker.. But yeah, mining rewards from capturing hackers fingerprints is going to be a great feeling. Knowing that you have made the internet a safer place to be at through the sake of mining using a small little device such as a raspberry pi - not only that but you will be getting rewarded in HNY tokens - which in my opinion will go up in value with the success of this project |
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Is vanig open to external merchants like maybe outside trader who may like to ply their trade in the Vanig platform?? and what's their plan for a franchise system?? is there any of such??
To my understanding yes I believe if you follow within reasons of what the platform supports probably best to talk to the team on telegram directly if you want more info on it I’d imagine Yes. I read it somewhere they gonna serve as platform for other business to showcase their product and service, they even stated that Amazon, Walmart and Alibaba will be listing product on vanig platform. So they will definitely be supporting third party vendor I love this.. If they go ahead and get this companies to list products in the platform vanig will get the recognition it deserves for sure. But i would advice that Vanig vets the third party business well to ensure they are up to the task. So they officially confirmed that those companies will be listing products on the platform? Where does it say that? I can't see how Amazon would want to list their products on another platform? I guess the important thing to remember is that if Vanig can list other products and sell them - it would be in Amazon's best interest to get extra sells through third party companies such as Vanig - making everyone a winner |
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Did somebody noticed how the ICO is progressing? It is moving steadily and crossed 1 mil today. Looks like 5 mil is easy target during the remaining pre-sale period for cryptocean
Yeah, I saw that, too. Even though we are still very early in the pre-sale the amount of money they raised is already great. Seems like the 30% bonus is a good incentive. Yeah, $1m is real good progress already. Im I bet that the $3m lightcap is only going to be a couple weeks away if that, now. Thats awesome news considering what the markets are doing at the moment, Cryptocean is a brilliant investment opportunity. One of my favourite things about the project is that the Cryptocean cards will allow users to automatically transfer several different cryptos into fiat automatically for paying at pay points or taking ATM withdrawals. I know there are a lot of projects working on similar ideas but I like that it doesn't need to be CRON tokens that are converted to fiat, it can be BTC, ETH or DASH. That's the interesting part of the project. It gives you the ease of assessing cash at any point in time without having to go to an exchange site to convert to Fiat and requesting a withdrawal. As time goes they should make provisions for more currencies on the card. This is the most attractive part of the project in my opinion, I haven't seen many other projects attempt to break the crypto to fiat withdrawal from ATM's - it would be huge for crypto if they manage to pull this off and certainly will attract a huge audience from the crypto industry |
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Thanks for the reminder, I had actually missed this but will get on it now. A great chance to get some free tokens - why not  Not only free tokens, but essentially free membership on the SEED platform, no excuse for anyone to not be a member when you can get a decent start for free haha Amazing free membership and free tokens you can earn a lot by also following the referral program you can earn up to $400 worth of SEED Tokens. Fantastic opportunity to get some free SEED tokens just for referring some friends, it will help the project grow it's community and expand further to become a global success There is Airdrop also? I was not aware of this airdrop. Thanks for sharing the link. I am going to participate in this airdrop. Hope I am not late. I'd also missed the announcement airdrop for this so thanks for the reminder and link. Airdrops are so useful in spreading the awareness of a project and bringing many supporters on board. Will have to go sign up now i think the major thing about this means that there is literally no excuse for anyone to not be a SEED member, they're giving it to you for free haha, also means you have to invest significantly less if you want to reach the 10,000 mark for the tier 2 membership. Tier 2 is a good target to realm some nice rewards, I missed the airdrop but hoping I can contribute another to reach tier 2. |
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Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications. I would think they would finish all the verification before they start the sale to ensure everything goes smooth - I'm sure the 4NEW team are keeping on top of it just like everything else. Can't wait for the sale to start |
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Thanks for the reminder, I had actually missed this but will get on it now. A great chance to get some free tokens - why not Not only free tokens, but essentially free membership on the SEED platform, no excuse for anyone to not be a member when you can get a decent start for free haha Amazing free membership and free tokens you can earn a lot by also following the referral program you can earn up to $400 worth of SEED Tokens. Fantastic opportunity to get some free SEED tokens just for referring some friends, it will help the project grow it's community and expand further to become a global success |
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Interesting piece, highlights the benefits of investing in CryptOcean i read its the first its kind with no competitors. I'll be sure to purchase some CryptOcean token Nice review and short intro. In this article they said we can this platform to pay bills, salaries and lot of other transactions wherever banks do. It is really nice concept. Yep it’s all going to come down to adoption I’m hopeful for the team as they seem to have done a lot of legwork lining up the plan and roadmap and have a grasp of what difficulties may lie ahead hopefully they can get strong real world adoption and usage Given they have achieved the soft cap they have made a great achievement. I think if they are able to provide a prototype of the plastic cards that would really take this to another dimension. I'm very excited to see the progression of this "plastic card" this will bring cryptos to the next level having the potential ability to withdraw money from ATM's from crypto currency! |
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While AI is developing machine learning is pretty every day and I sort of expect projects like vanig to lean more towards the machine learning side of things to improve the platform than any form of true ai. But most companies refer to AI when they discuss machine learning.
I think AI could be the next step. For now I think they should focus more on their value proposition which is the ability to track products from source and get its history. One of the main selling points being able to track the product regardless of where it is in the world and see where it originated from - it's bringing a new level to transparency |
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Apart from the fact that one gets paid to lure hackers, the feeling of being part of something important give one a nice feeling and the believe that you're helping to make the internet safer has a nice ring to it.
Was just thinking, how will it really feel in reality? I mean if just the thought of it alone makes one feel nice about, how will the act of literally nabbing a hacker feel like?? #FBI_feeling y'all Do you physically get s hacker? No, you just have the ability of detecting and preventing a hacker from gaining access to a network. This will make the world a better place to be in and keep us all safer especially with the rising amount of smart devices which has a internet connection - it's quite scary when you put it into perspective |
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What I can see on Bitfence homepage? "STINGMINER LAUNCH IN: 32 days". They raised their require funds (2000 ETH Goals)? Anyone have any information about it? How much amount they raised yet?
What happened their 2000 ETH goals in stage -1? I thought they have stage 2 also. But don't know why they changed suddenly here? Stingminer launching plan was in Q3 or Q4? Nothing wrong with them bringing it forward! The crowdsale was meant to end in July though, so not sure what's happened there They obviously have made great progress with the sale / stingminer - I was a bit gutted having to wait till Q4 so I'm ecstatic to see that the release of the stingminer is within 32 days. Great work Bitfence team! |
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