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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 13, 2014, 02:57:55 PM
Where are pookie and BTCgraphics?

i think they sold and moved on.... last i seen them together holding hands and crying about making wrong decisions.
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Jesse Livermore: Whale Watcher - Creator of JLTRADINGCOIN on ClearingHouse on: September 13, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
Bobs next pump is dogecoin - I called it first. 
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 13, 2014, 11:49:48 AM
wow 339 BTC vol and rising!
First again in bittrex
next week will be huge!

wait until mintpal adds us Wink
704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 12, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
Does anyone know how practically we will be able to convert our Stealthcoin to Stealthsend (as stated in the whitepaper) ?

Hondo has the details covered I am sure - there will be a BURN proccess - so literally you will convert your XST directly into the SSX or whatever

I did mention a burn conversion in the whitepaper, but there has been a lot of advocacy in the team towards a DAC-style snapshot since I released the whitepaper. In the case of a snapshot, one would import his private keys from StealthCoin into a StealthSend wallet. The amount of StealthSend in the wallet would be the same as the amount of StealthCoin owned at the moment of the snapshot. In principle, that would make XST a DAC and StealthSend what I like to call an "asset dividend".

I have heard a lot of compelling arguments for snapshots. Namely they are simple and decentralized, which I greatly favor. So I'm leaning in that direction now.


Hondo... this DOES sound like a very GOOD idea!  Once again... Hondo is amazing!

705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 12, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
Bob is hyping up the coin with his newbie accounts again trying to get noobs to build support so he can dump on your asses.

LXC all over again. Get ready for the dump!  Cool Cool Cool

yeah - cause u know everything MR. IwantToAccumulateAllEveryonesCoinsCheaperThanWhatTheyAreNowSoLetsSpreadFudMan man.

yea thats you
706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 12, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
Does anyone know how practically we will be able to convert our Stealthcoin to Stealthsend (as stated in the whitepaper) ?


Dont doubt hondo - or hondo doubts you - and you dont want that, trust me.

Now you have piqued my curiosity. Please, elaborate.

have you not seen what happen to the last guy who doubted hondo ? 
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 12, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
Does anyone know how practically we will be able to convert our Stealthcoin to Stealthsend (as stated in the whitepaper) ?


Hondo has the details covered I am sure - there will be a BURN proccess - so literally you will convert your XST directly into the SSX or whatever - this gives SSX the exact same value as XST and vice versa .

Dont doubt hondo - or hondo doubts you - and you dont want that, trust me.
708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
sorry I do not mean to come off as a person attacking you - or supernet.  My bad.  Please I jsut really was hoping supernet was much more than what I am reading here.

I wish you all the best with supernet.  I wish you many fortunes.  For me though, like I said, its not for me.


peace.
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 01:29:38 PM
supernet is a platform for providing anti-competition.  To innovate you need competition.  Supernet = anti innovation platform. 

Talking about innovation, it's very hard not to confuse XC with a copycoin.
XC : pos, mixer, chat, mobile wallet, zzzz...
Is XC on supernet ?

XC provides something much more than that.  Go do your research instead of investing in someone elses picks of what you should invest in.  You would note that XC is way ahead of the pack and most the other coins are trying to copy xc..


zzzzz is right... its your brain sleeping in crypto space.  wake up dude.  please wake up.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
supernet is a platform for providing anti-competition.  To innovate you need competition.  Supernet = anti innovation platform. 
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:58:37 PM
I am going to take this a step further, and say its a bad idea to invest in it.  You are now making an investment in someone elses coin selection, someone elses management (centralized) , someone elses technological idea.   Not within your own.   The point about (well now you dont need to research all these things) - if you are not researching what you are investing in then what the hell are you doing wasting your money ?

think about it.

peace.

If you invest in XC, you are investing in the vision of the XC developers, not your own.

If you invest in superNET, you are investing in the vision of jl777, plus the vision of other developers whose coins decide to join the superNET.

Think about it.

Huge difference - I invest in XC because I have read and understood XCs vision and I believe the XC developers have control over what XC is to be.  I am not investing in a company which claims it has control over XCs vision or what it can or can not enforce.   For this reason I will continue to invest directly into XC and will not share XCs market cap with umbrella corp which has no control over its body which it can not govern
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:51:47 PM
I am going to take this a step further, and say its a bad idea to invest in it.  You are now making an investment in someone elses coin selection, someone elses management (centralized) , someone elses technological idea.   Not within your own.   The point about (well now you dont need to research all these things) - if you are not researching what you are investing in then what the hell are you doing wasting your money ?

think about it.

peace.
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
What I am saying is WHY are you taking the marketcap AWAY from the coin you like most and throwing it into a supernet stock that represents something it has no way  / means to enforce. 

Because you need to diversify your holdings?

True, I can diverse into anything I see ass successful... supernet is not one of those things for me unfortunately.  I don't get it.   I was really hoping someone here would be able to show me why it is useful.  I thought there was more to it... I guess not. 
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:43:42 PM

right then... so you need to ask - what athority and governing does supernet have over quality control?  if supernet says "YOU cant do this"  does the coin within stop doin it?      sounds to my like jl7777 has absolute NO authority over anything within.  No power..  Only promises ... promises it cant enforce

You seem to think that superNET is joining together coins, but it's not. It's just allowing coins to interact in a much easier way (as opposed to going to centralized exchange and buying a new coin for each new feature.) If a coin within superNET does something that someone doesn't like, just don't use that coin/feature, use other coins/features.

I am not saying its joining together of coins at all - I am saying exactly what supernet is saying it is on its own website.  It is trying to get coins within to coolabertae and share ideas with each eachoher ?

What I am saying is WHY are you taking the marketcap AWAY from the coin you like most and throwing it into a supernet stock that represents something it has no way  / means to enforce. 



715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:32:33 PM

You can transfer between the coins?  Bitcoin already allows this.. you can transfer any coin into bitcoin and back out to any other coin via any exchange (no) ? Why do we need a supernet (stock)  which is jsut a Nxt stock... to do this?  Bitcoin already is the supernet embracing all the other coins.   The dectenralized exchange built within some of the alt coins could be used already regardless if a coins part of supernet or not...  (again not trolling , but really where is the benefit in INVESTNG in supernet?)

as i said, the exchange is decentralized which is a huge difference, at least to me.

and ofc bitcoin "embraces" the other coins, but supernet is planning to add coins with real potential, which basically gives you a prefiltering of coins.

i see it a little bit like a big physical fruit market, where everyone who wants to enter needs to meet certain quality standards.
also if anyone finds a new method to store fruit better or enhance something etc... they share it among the other fruit sellers.
people who shop on the market can be sure to not buy complete crap and they can choose if the want apples, oranges,...

the ones who organize the market and take care of the quality control etc. take a little of the profit for doing so.

please dont judge me on details...

right then... so you need to ask - what athority and governing does supernet have over quality control?  if supernet says "YOU cant do this"  does the coin within stop doin it?      sounds to my like jl7777 has absolute NO authority over anything within.  No power..  Only promises ... promises it cant enforce
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
@bitcad4u,
my idea is SuperNET just gives you exposure to different coins and technologies it is going to incorporate without having to research and own them. You basically buy the index fund of SuperNET and let others worry about making it profitable. Which has its pros and cons. I wouldn't invest a whole bunch, but staying out of it could be missing an opportunity.

so, I am correct then that supernet is an umbrell company - an investment in supernet is an investment in umbrella corp, umbrella corps idea is to get friends within to cooperate and share, yet umbrella corp has no means or authority / protocols / laws to enforce the sharing?

Im out.  unless someone can give me better ideas as to why I should be in.   This whole thing sounds like a FAD.  Like poptarts, pogs, napster, furbys and fannypacks.
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
Good questions.

I think the best way to look at it is to exagerate for a minute the difference between ford, toyta, and gm.  say toyota makes mainly commuter economy cars, ford is more the go to company for heavy trucks, whereas gm aims more at family cars.

It makes way more sense for these companies to begin sharing distribution, economies of scale, trade representatives to foreign countries etc, all the while not trying to become like one another. They can share a salesroom in Germany, and have a car model for every buyer.

Today's crypto situation is analogous. Some coins have a mini blockchain. Others are great at sms anon. Others aim at being 'real world' coins with publically known staff, etc.

One of the functions of the supernet is to establish a network effect among these  coins without the coins giving up their own identities.  In addition,participating coins gain the benefits of the network - anon coins may pick up a fiat gateway. Fiat friendly coins can have access to anon teleporting for certain transactions. All coins benefit by being able to move effortlessly from one blockchain to another. Like the federal highway program. Etc. etc.

Better than the auto industry might be socio political examples,like the EU, or robber baron examples, like the steel industry gaining power over politicians by working together. Or even crime cartels, who have no love for each other but find it quite profitable to work together.

I am sure others can give better examples than these.

I do understand what you are saying - in some instances it is worthwhile to "share" between companies.   In the end though to me,  I am throwing my money into a company that is promising that the companies within are "going to share" - I am not throwing my money into the company I believe in that has the most unique features.  

What authority does JL777 hve to enforce each company within it to share?   If supernet can not enforce sharing then I do not see the point... supernet can not enforce these policies is more or less promising these features.  I can not invest in promises. There has to be more to it than this ? no ?
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
So I want to understand "SuperNet" better - so please do not think I am here trolling or whatever.  My questions are serious.
 
So supernet seems to be like a "Stock" that represents a "group of coins" which are all part of this "stock" - the goal of this stock is to have all these coins within, work together, share ideas, share benefits on advert costs - basically share to the point of becoming a better crypto space?  and so on ?   (please correct me if I am totally wrong)

So I am trying to get my head around lets say if this was a supernet for "motor indusrty" - so lets say we had ford, GM, toytoa, mazada, etc... what benefit would these companies have in joining a auto supercar company.  Whereby, the autospercar companies goal was to make the auto companies within, work together, share ideas, share buildings, share parts, share revenue streams adn advertisements.  What benefit would that have to each of these auto companies ?   and why does such a thing not exist for the auto industry ?

It would appear to me, that investors who are investing in supernet are making an investment in a comapny whose goal is to try and get competing brands to cooperate for the greater good of crypto, or or the greater good of car companies (lets say).   

So serious question, why if, if I really believed in Ford, would I not just invest in Ford.   Why would I invest in a company that claims to ensure that Ford works nicely with Honda?   Why would I increase this "umbrella" companies marketcap instead of increasing Fords market cap - considering I believe heavily in Ford?

These are all serious questions - please reply with serious response only, I really am trying to wrap my head around this supernet idea.  thank you for your time.

there are cooperations within the auto industry, the only difference is it is not under a global supercar company umbrella. some benefits are that they can share technology and have increased lobbying power when it comes to legislation.

although i think its hard to compare those industries.. the clear benefit here is, that you can transfer between the coins, they all can use a decentralized exchange system, it distinguishes crap coins from coins that actually have a potential. The crypto space is very "chaotic", thats why i welcome an initiative like this..

You can transfer between the coins?  Bitcoin already allows this.. you can transfer any coin into bitcoin and back out to any other coin via any exchange (no) ? Why do we need a supernet (stock)  which is jsut a Nxt stock... to do this?  Bitcoin already is the supernet embracing all the other coins.   The dectenralized exchange built within some of the alt coins could be used already regardless if a coins part of supernet or not...  (again not trolling , but really where is the benefit in INVESTNG in supernet?)
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 12, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
So I want to understand "SuperNet" better - so please do not think I am here trolling or whatever.  My questions are serious.
 
So supernet seems to be like a "Stock" that represents a "group of coins" which are all part of this "stock" - the goal of this stock is to have all these coins within, work together, share ideas, share benefits on advert costs - basically share to the point of becoming a better crypto space?  and so on ?   (please correct me if I am totally wrong)

So I am trying to get my head around lets say if this was a supernet for "motor indusrty" - so lets say we had ford, GM, toytoa, mazada, etc... what benefit would these companies have in joining a auto supercar company.  Whereby, the autospercar companies goal was to make the auto companies within, work together, share ideas, share buildings, share parts, share revenue streams adn advertisements.  What benefit would that have to each of these auto companies ?   and why does such a thing not exist for the auto industry ?

It would appear to me, that investors who are investing in supernet are making an investment in a comapny whose goal is to try and get competing brands to cooperate for the greater good of crypto, or or the greater good of car companies (lets say).   

So serious question, why if, if I really believed in Ford, would I not just invest in Ford.   Why would I invest in a company that claims to ensure that Ford works nicely with Honda?   Why would I increase this "umbrella" companies marketcap instead of increasing Fords market cap - considering I believe heavily in Ford?

These are all serious questions - please reply with serious response only, I really am trying to wrap my head around this supernet idea.  thank you for your time.

720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: September 11, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
Dan Metcalf created XC (X CURRENCY) which has been in the TOP 10-15 coins for a long time now.

IF Dan says this coin is legit - then this coin is Legit!!!!

 
Prepare for space time.

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