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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 05, 2014, 06:25:01 AM
Will Darkcoin implement the Zerocoin protocol when it is available?

No, and nor should it. ZeroCoin uses research-level cryptography. This sounds fancy and impressive to most people but as a researcher myself, I would never trust more than $5 of my money on it. We just don't know how it could be exploited because it hasn't been around long. It has other hurdles as well, but this is the main objection.

In contrast, the CoinJoin approach is conceptually sound and doesn't make any drastic changes. Crypto transactions are irreversible and there's no insurance so I want confidence, not novelty.
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 11:50:51 PM
DRK *needs* mass adoption due to its protocol. It's not merely about value. DarkSend is more effective the more people there are to mix in transactions at a given time. Therefore we eventually needs multiple DarkSends per minute around the clock. This requires a large global user base in order to avoid time zone effects.

We should definitely promote (with good taste). Price volatility is a small cost to pay (and in any case, the baseline will end up higher).
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 09:54:13 PM
Top 100 digital currencies by social media presence (Reddit+Facebook+Twitter followers):

http://crypt.la/2014/03/01/top-100-digital-currencies-by-social-media-presence/

1   Bitcoin....... 410,184
2   Dogecoin.... 207,791
3   Litecoin...... 37,596
4   ReddCoin.... 36,092
5   Vertcoin..... 34,594

...

55   DarkCoin.... 582

LOL. Behind such titans as BBQCoin.

Impressive, though, that DRK has the market cap that it does. Comparable to VertCoin with far less awareness.

Note: the list is missing our /r/DRKCoin subscribers so I added that in.
704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 09:10:46 PM
Someone throw some donations my way PLEASE!!!! 227 DRK and 2 DRK/day on the official pool is just not enough!!!! lol

500 DRK sent.  Cool

What nice guy Honest Tim is!

WTF ? Just like that ? I have even less than that and didn't dare beg ! Generosity beyond belief out there. Impressed. But: What about me?

501 DRK sent!
705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 07:38:14 AM
BTC stolen from polo. Here we go again.
Doesn't mean DRK will be targeted. Not sure what the previous thief's reasoning was for changing it all to DRK.
706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 07:12:45 AM
If anyone is interested in contributing, I would like to put together a DarkCoin Mining Hardware Comparison list for the wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/DarkCoin). I've got a shell with my own info and would like to add more. The info I am looking to add is GPU (please be specific), kH/s, Core Clock, Memory Clock, Volts, Watts, which Miner is being used, the Config/bat, and Misc Notes (OS/Drivers/Temp). If you want to PM me your info I will get it added to my list.

This is way too esoteric for wikipedia. None of the major coins have such a list on their wiki pages.

It needs to be put on a separate site. A public google doc works.

Litecoin has one.  That's how I decided what GPUs I wanted to use on my first rig.  It would definitely be nice to have the same thing for X11.

https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

I'm referring only to placing it on the Wikipedia, not our own wiki somewhere else.
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 07:03:26 AM
If anyone is interested in contributing, I would like to put together a DarkCoin Mining Hardware Comparison list for the wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/DarkCoin). I've got a shell with my own info and would like to add more. The info I am looking to add is GPU (please be specific), kH/s, Core Clock, Memory Clock, Volts, Watts, which Miner is being used, the Config/bat, and Misc Notes (OS/Drivers/Temp). If you want to PM me your info I will get it added to my list.

This is way too esoteric for wikipedia. None of the major coins have such a list on their wiki pages.

It needs to be put on a separate site. A public google doc works.

I can put it on the subreddit wiki if you like. And it could be linked to from the main website (when the new one launches).

Where ever it will be most useful. I remember pouring over the litecoin hardware comparison before and it had good info. I've been going through this thread and the SPH (PHM) Miner thread pulling info. Once I get it together I'll shoot it your way.

Yes, I've used the LTC list myself when I got started, but wikipedia admins would delete it for sure. The solution is to get it up somewhere else and google bomb it to the top of searches.
708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 06:37:19 AM
If anyone is interested in contributing, I would like to put together a DarkCoin Mining Hardware Comparison list for the wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/DarkCoin). I've got a shell with my own info and would like to add more. The info I am looking to add is GPU (please be specific), kH/s, Core Clock, Memory Clock, Volts, Watts, which Miner is being used, the Config/bat, and Misc Notes (OS/Drivers/Temp). If you want to PM me your info I will get it added to my list.

This is way too esoteric for wikipedia. None of the major coins have such a list on their wiki pages.

It needs to be put on a separate site. A public google doc works.
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 06:22:09 AM
I think I'll abandon basic investment principles and go all in for DRK. All eggs in one basket. Tongue I have my stock portfolio for more rational investing.

Don't let me down, DarkSend.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR][MANDATORY UPDATE] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: March 04, 2014, 05:35:29 AM
I wish exchanges would offer the ability to short

Exactly my thoughts. I would short this with 100% confidence.

The economic illiteracy present here is breathtaking. Solid entertainment. Smiley
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin-Adaptive N-factor Scrypt-No more ASICs-[EXCHANGES/AMAZON/ATM/MERCHANTS] on: March 03, 2014, 07:32:54 AM
Is that graph a good or bad thing for vtc? :0

It means that it's extremely unlikely that price can drop in the near-term. Only way to go is up because demand is much greater than supply at the current price point.
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 07:25:52 AM
The DarkSend beta doesn't fork the blockchain, correct? I can still safely send/receive DRK using the 0.8.9 Mac wallet?

That's a toughy... I switched to the beta. I'd wait till morning for the devs just to be safe.
Currently I'm stuck because there is no Mac beta wallet.

Hi eizh, DarkCoin Mac v0.8.9.2 is up here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4585071#msg4585071

Will be posted on the site shortly as well.

Oh, thanks for your work. Just upgraded.
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
The DarkSend beta doesn't fork the blockchain, correct? I can still safely send/receive DRK using the 0.8.9 Mac wallet?

That's a toughy... I switched to the beta. I'd wait till morning for the devs just to be safe.
Currently I'm stuck because there is no Mac beta wallet.
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 07:00:56 AM
The DarkSend beta doesn't fork the blockchain, correct? I can still safely send/receive DRK using the 0.8.9 Mac wallet?
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 01, 2014, 08:26:46 PM
Anyone with R9 x290 who can provide descent settings to mine ? PLS ?


-I 20 --thread-concurrency 24550 gets me 2.5 MH/s
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 01, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
I don't buy-in to a cryptocurrency to get rich. I buy it to anchor something I've researched and believe in. DRK deserves to succeed for the betterment of humanity, so I put my drops in the bucket to make it just a little heavier.

Same here. Plus, I just want to say I was there at the beginning. Tongue
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | KGW | No Premine on: March 01, 2014, 06:08:40 PM

World's First Completely Anonymous Coin
or
World's First Truly Anonymous Coin

I had this exact same thought yesterday.  Needs some differentiation between coins which claim anonymity and DRK, which is TRULY anonymous.

"World's First Truly Anonymous Coin" gets my vote.  Explain the decentralized, zero-trust nature of Darksend in the first post and how that is different from the current "anonymizer" features of a couple other coins.

I agree with this. Way too many coins nowadays claiming anonymity based on a very loose interpretation. Many people still don't understand that the bitcoin protocol only makes tracing a hassle, but nowhere near impossible.

I am also not convinced yet that Darkcoin is anywhere near impossible to prove trace for the people we really want out of tracing it.

Where is the proof? I'm not saying this sarcastically like "LoL THERE IS NO PROOF!"!""111", but I actually want to read if if there is proof! 

Yes, DRK needs a white paper that explains it roughly at the level where an engineering undergraduate or amateur coder could understand (like the Nakamoto BTC protocol white paper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf). Either from the dev or a volunteer willing to study the code once it's open source.
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | KGW | No Premine on: March 01, 2014, 05:39:22 PM

World's First Completely Anonymous Coin
or
World's First Truly Anonymous Coin

I had this exact same thought yesterday.  Needs some differentiation between coins which claim anonymity and DRK, which is TRULY anonymous.

"World's First Truly Anonymous Coin" gets my vote.  Explain the decentralized, zero-trust nature of Darksend in the first post and how that is different from the current "anonymizer" features of a couple other coins.

I agree with this. Way too many coins nowadays claiming anonymity based on a very loose interpretation. Many people still don't understand that the bitcoin protocol only makes tracing a hassle, but nowhere near impossible.
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 01, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
I've been with this coin now for a week or so. It looks great and I have high hopes for it. Mining is pretty tough, but I will keep at it!

Any donations are greatly appreciated Smiley XwbqNLswHQbJkwWJJHBLApHiQrbYRY7gWT

Me too, week or two max. Mining difficulty is a good sign, unlike maxcoin which was a investment nightmare.
With the flood of supply. We need slow inflation. Does anybody know the time and rate of coin increase?

Entirely dependent on network hashrate. The more miners there are, the slower the rate of increase because block reward is inversely proportional to difficulty^2 (plus a large constant term that currently  dominates). There's no fixed halving structure in this coin.
720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | KGW | No Premine on: March 01, 2014, 11:08:55 AM

Darkcoin's case is a little different. We're going to face an uphill battle for public acceptance. We're going to be smeared by the media. People are not going to be generous and look for positive interpretations of the name. Every other news article is going to mention the possibility / reality of illicit activities conducted under the cloak of darksend. The public will form their opinion on us based on the name alone. Essentially, anything ambiguously dark & shady in our branding puts us on the back foot with these challenges.


You just described Bitcoin and look how successful it has been. Even the collapse and disappearance of 800K coins hasn't hurt it much, just lowered the price enough for people to buy in.
What heppened to 800k coins

Mt. Gox coins 'disappeared'.
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