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701  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: STOP SPAMMING PEOPLE - 90% OFF WALMART, AMAZON, EBAY... on: February 15, 2019, 10:56:23 PM

He's not SPAMMING, he's SCAMMING.

You mean this wasn't a clue?





Or this?


702  Economy / Digital goods / Re: CryptoGifter's Legit E -Gift Card Auto Buy Shop - AMAZON, WALMART, EBAY, & MORE! on: February 13, 2019, 06:16:39 PM
Looks like Mr YoutubeTV/Kimb0scamz/Skeptical/Love/Prince is warming up a 1 yr old scam thread to bring back an old ALT complete with new fake sock-puppet vouches.  Probably Scamtical One.  Sounds like his voice.
703  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 11, 2019, 06:24:02 PM

Hey Sandy,
The player won and is trying to get his withdrawal. The player has already sent in all the required documentation that was asked for by cloudbet and does not live in the United States.
You mentioned he probably lost a lot? You should read the full story before commenting. You can see above he is waiting on a 330 bitcoin payout. He also already withdrew 145 bitcoins  [/b]


I am aware of everything you stated however you obviously missed my point or didn't clearly understand or actually read my comment.  My comment was strictly regarding someone's suggestion about LEGAL ACTION against Cloudbet.  If the PLAYER resides in the US where online gambling is ILLEGAL and if he went to court it would likely be thrown out whether he was cheated or not.  There is a legal doctrine  called "dirty hands or clean hands" that basically states if you do something that is not legal and get cheated the courts will not help you to resolve it.  

Think of a drug dealer suing his supplier for ripping him off.  Since the drug deal is an illegal action the courts will not help you.

I made no judgement on either the poster or the casino just the suggestion of legal action. As for me saying he "lost a lot" that is true if he won 330BTC and didn't get paid. He most definitely would have LOST A LOT. I also never found out if he was from the US.

From what I have been reading around the web regarding online gaming there are many US players sneaking in using various surreptitious methods then getting pissed when they don't get paid when they win. I tried to join a casino and was locked out as I was from the US.  Their TOS also state that they don't accept players from certain regions.



He is from the Philippines. The suggestion by the poster in regards to legal action was to go after Cloudflare for servicing the book. Cloudflare is based in the US.

Too many would be lawyers around here.  Cheesy  Good luck to him, hope he gets his money.  Worth the try but it would be interesting to see the results.
704  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 11, 2019, 03:29:35 AM

Hey Sandy,
The player won and is trying to get his withdrawal. The player has already sent in all the required documentation that was asked for by cloudbet and does not live in the United States.
You mentioned he probably lost a lot? You should read the full story before commenting. You can see above he is waiting on a 330 bitcoin payout. He also already withdrew 145 bitcoins  [/b]


I am aware of everything you stated however you obviously missed my point or didn't clearly understand or actually read my comment.  My comment was strictly regarding someone's suggestion about LEGAL ACTION against Cloudbet.  If the PLAYER resides in the US where online gambling is ILLEGAL and if he went to court it would likely be thrown out whether he was cheated or not.  There is a legal doctrine  called "dirty hands or clean hands" that basically states if you do something that is not legal and get cheated the courts will not help you to resolve it. 

Think of a drug dealer suing his supplier for ripping him off.  Since the drug deal is an illegal action the courts will not help you.

I made no judgement on either the poster or the casino just the suggestion of legal action. As for me saying he "lost a lot" that is true if he won 330BTC and didn't get paid. He most definitely would have LOST A LOT. I also never found out if he was from the US.

From what I have been reading around the web regarding online gaming there are many US players sneaking in using various surreptitious methods then getting pissed when they don't get paid when they win. I tried to join a casino and was locked out as I was from the US.  Their TOS also state that they don't accept players from certain regions.

705  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 10, 2019, 03:45:39 AM

just don't , you should have hired a lawyer from day 1 , by accepting only the initial deposit, you are somehow weakening your position.  




I have tagged Cloudbet until this issue is resolved.

I did not read the entire thread.  Is the OP from the US (I can't tell)?  If so he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on since an illegal "contract" cannot be enforced.  The only thing that might work would be negative reputation pressure. That being said many years ago when it was (sorta) legal in the US this happened all the time dealing with off-shore casinos.  It was always a fight to collect.  We also had "organizations" who were supposed to represent us but rarely did they do any good. Those were the good old days but long gone except if you live in certain states.

As for the OP without knowing all the details and seeing all the docs and hearing both sides it's impossible to know what really is going and make a judgement other than he possibly lost a lot of coin. If
706  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Buy anything you want from AMAZON with a DISCOUNT! Sell your funds for BTC also! on: February 08, 2019, 08:23:48 PM
Purchased $700+ in "Gift of Prime".  Went into my account without issue.  Good deal from a trusted seller.  Thanks.  Now I can order my BBQ.  Cheesy
707  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [SELLING] Verizon gift card on: February 03, 2019, 08:32:59 PM
Are these just prepaid cards or could you use these to pay a verizon wireless bill, do you sell any other cards or just verizon?
 Paid my Verizon POSTpaid bill with it yesterday with no problem.  One note:  if you have no bill due at the time (zero balance) they won't accept gift cards (you can't use it and get a credit balance). Once you have a balance due you won't have a problem.
708  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [ SELLING ] GIFT CARD FOR 50% OF THE PRICE on: February 02, 2019, 04:21:14 PM
Warning: to buyers: Selly provides no protection for buyers.  Buy through Bitcointalk trusted escrow because you have better protection against scams. Even that isn't 100% safe but Selly is dangerous.
.

Never trust vouches from someone with no previous posts and who joined this forum 10 minutes before posting the vouch.  Usually fake.
709  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [SELLING] Verizon gift card on: February 02, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Took a chance and purchased a $98.50 card.  I sent first and codes were received within minutes.  Checked and verified amount with Verizon and all is good.  Note that VERIZON WIRELESS will not accept payment from a gift card if account has $zero$ balance so I have to wait until Feb 1 to actually use the card but their system did confirm the balance as you can see from screen print. I reserve "full vouch" until Feb 1.  Cheesy


Vouched.  Finally was able to apply my card to my account and it worked fine.  Card was good they are obviously good cards.  WIll buy more at the end of this month if you still have them.  Cheesy
710  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: @cheapestgiftcards scammer No.2 on: February 02, 2019, 03:50:21 AM
It's BOLG1 ------  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1015285
Long time scammer with multiple accounts.  But why does OP's chat log say "last seen long time ago" ?
711  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [ SELLING ] GIFT CARD FOR 50% OF THE PRICE on: February 01, 2019, 05:53:20 PM
Warning: to buyers: Selly provides no protection for buyers.  Buy through Bitcointalk trusted escrow because you have better protection against scams. Even that isn't 100% safe but Selly is dangerous.
712  Economy / Reputation / Re: hacked account , do not trade "Milkz" on: January 30, 2019, 04:53:52 PM
LOL, Hmmm, how do we know his last message was legit?  Don't yet see it here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099645.msg49317801#msg49317801

Once we get some more confirmation in this thread  will most def remove neg.  Just being careful.  Cheesy

You can see that manual ownership recovering was completed around an hour ago here: https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php



Cool, thanks.  Neg removed.  Can't trust anything any more.  Cheesy
713  Economy / Reputation / Re: hacked account , do not trade "Milkz" on: January 30, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
LOL, Hmmm, how do we know his last message was legit?  Don't yet see it here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099645.msg49317801#msg49317801

Once we get some more confirmation in this thread  will most def remove neg.  Just being careful.  Cheesy
714  Economy / Reputation / Re: hacked account , do not trade "Milkz" on: January 30, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
Just got a PM from "Milkz" saying account was restored but I don't yet see it in list so not YET removing neg (admittedly I did remove it for about 5 secs until I realized it hadn't yet been confirmed).
715  Economy / Reputation / Re: A list of top scammers on the " Digital Goods " market. on: January 30, 2019, 03:40:12 AM
Off the top of my head:
Bolg1 AKA FASTENS, DUSKS, DUSKEEGIFTCARDS, Sinceyadin @ kafiristanica.

Embroiderymate AKA  HouseOfWesteros and Huh

cpmzin AKA KentSupplier, bysmoith66, iliair110, Hagenuk1976, NutrichMass, SuWang91. hpot82. SoftW888, MinecraftKeys, XYCHRIZZY

Brazil3018 AKA IPTV_DESTINATION and IPTVRESELLER

716  Other / Archival / Re: ///WALMART///TARGET///BESTBUY///STEAM///GOOGLE PLAY///AMAZON///EBAY/// on: January 30, 2019, 03:09:08 AM
Hi
contact icq 639137745
telegram Amaya99 https://t.me/Amaya99


Getting your logins confused?
717  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling e-gift cards Amazon on: January 29, 2019, 10:46:18 PM
lol, I noticed that there are many giftcard thread here these days.... most of them need to talk on telegram and don't accept escrow ...

Because most are scammers and this place is a haven for scammers.
718  Economy / Digital goods / Re: I am selling Target, Walmart, Bestbuy giftcards @60-65% on: January 29, 2019, 04:07:04 PM
This man is a scammer! Be careful. I gave him the codes from the google play. Did not pay me $ 1000!!!



If what you say is true start an official "scam accusation thread" in the proper place and if it can be proven he will be quickly tagged as such by many users. 

This is the forum:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Read the 2nd message in that forum for explanation.
719  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: @cryptogift Is a scammmer on: January 28, 2019, 02:11:00 AM
Good point ... due to OP's low post count I just "ASS"umed.  Cheesy  Generally speaking though that's the case.
720  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: @cryptogift Is a scammmer on: January 27, 2019, 10:30:08 PM
I find it interesting but sad as well that despite the negative ratings he is still managing to scam other over his catch line : 80% off.

Likely because they are newbies who often buy without creating an account here and are unable to see any trust ratings.
Discussed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100111.0
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