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721  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Should I stop trading in this bear market? on: August 15, 2018, 05:35:02 PM
Trading is like an addiction, but this bear market seems will be very long. Bitcoin is going to under 6k USD, ETH is now 262 USD, Almost 80% coin fell down. I can't make profits at this moment in trading, Because after getting a little bit of profit, the market again goes under, then another coin eats my profit too. What should I do now?

I think any situation in crypto can always profitable when prices are falling always there will be a bounce and it's great for short-term trading, due to long-term I worry the price will more crash. so you don't have to stop trading because I think the current situation is still good for profit.
722  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin now below 8000 time to buy now on: August 14, 2018, 04:42:25 PM
Bitcoin is very low today even 7700 buck...do you think is good time to buy now or will more lower and crash to 3000 buck...very difficult to predict...what do you think... Who t f is selling on this price.....?....
I believe bitcoin prices will probably continue to fall sharply until the end of 2018, you can see that the market is bearish in the long run so to be able to reduce the risk I think at this point You should only trade short-term bitcoin to be profitable with the least risk. Bitcoin prices will likely continue to decrease at any time and will drag the price of altcoin down very deeply.
yeah buy now for the long term are still not good because it seems that bitcoin price will still crash. the right time to buy bitcoin for me maybe if bitcoin price dump below $4k. I'm sure if it happened, bitcoin price won't last long below and it will directly fly to the moon. but I dunno I hope the news about sec/etf could help the price increases at the end of the year.
723  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Investasi yang bagus 5 juta ? on: August 14, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
kebanyakan disini menyarakan invest di eth, memang bagus untuk membeli karena saat ini harganya murah, tapi saya pikir ini bakalan untuk jangka panjang. lebih baik invest di indodax beli beberapa koin seperti TEN, ini bagus untuk jangka pendek juga dan ngambil untung 100rb-1jt.
724  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 14, 2018, 03:01:31 AM
Memang ditahun 2018 sulit untuk kita prediksi harga bitcoin gan,
Karna kemarin sudah mulai membaik dan sekarang tiba-tiba harga turun lagi, kalau ane yakin gan,  diakhir tahun 2018 akan naik harga diatas 150 jutaan.


benar gan, saat ini harg bitcoin semaki anjlok gan ,dimana hari ini harga bitcoin meyentuh harga 89 juta gan, entah apa yang menyebabkan harga bitcoin terus merosot, sebagai pengguna kita haya bisa berharap semoga di akhir tahun 2018 ini harga bitcoin bisa kembali melonjak dan menembus harga diatas 200 juta lagi gan.


sulit ditebak memang harga bitcoin ini, banyak yg nebar isu isu negatif dan hypenya akan turun terus dalam beberapa bulan kedepan. tapi entahlah akhir tahun selalu diprediksi naik, mudah2an itu terjadi ditahun ini.
soal SEC dan ETF mungkin bisa menaikan harga bitcoin nanti di akhir tahun, itupun kalau hasil akhirnya positif.
725  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do with the current market? on: August 09, 2018, 03:55:36 PM

Looking at the current market, many people are disappointed in the market price, bitcoin prices stomping at the $ 7000 level, altcoin prices are falling deeply. Recent good news, however, shows that the market continues to grow and has great potential in the future. What would you do this time: Buy bitcoin, buy altcoin or do nothing?
coins that have already lost value 80% better I hold, and of course I will buy some cheap altcoins also bought bitcoin if fall deeper. I believe this is a good situation to buy because I am sure the price will increase in the next year, and I've always believed with crypto.
726  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade Vs HODL on: August 09, 2018, 03:31:29 PM
What is your recommendation for Crypto trading,  Day trading or HODL
Experience in crypto trading big loser or winner
I have lost 50% of my assets since May, now my reason is that I have HOLD NEO and did not sell it when it hit high value. In my opinion, daily trading is the best option for the present, you can exit every time you reach the target it is not the same as hold
I also lost more than 50% of my assets, and there is no other choice, just hold. I think when the trend bitcoin is down, day trading is good enough because we will get at a cheap price, but for the long-term is also quite good, because obviously, the current price is very cheap. but my suggestion if hold for the long term, better wait for bitcoin prices increase and stable.
727  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it the best time to buy cheaper crypto while Bitcoin is at high price? on: August 09, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
It mostly depends on you. Because there are many crypto currencies are coming UP .They are much cheaper  than Bitcoin for now. It is so hard to decide  which to buy  yes that's the point.  But bitcoin is the most growing crypto ever. It has a great future undoubtedly. I prefer to buy bitcoin for investment. It prices already reached too much high rate that was really unexpected. But in case of other crypto ,
there exist some risk.
It is personal, if you if you have some knowledge about the market about the new coins you can buy them if you trust, but if the price is high and you'll not believe in it you will make mistake.
Choosing alt coin for hold term is the stupid thing ever. Cheaper coins will remain cheaper it won't increase they only gives you profit in trading.
Depending on the project, if the coin has a long-term project, in the end, the coin will rise very high. We can see many altcoins that used to only have the low price but now the price is high.
728  Economy / Economics / Re: Choosing the one | What I think! - Real Job or Full Time Crypto! on: August 09, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
For me, i will choose Real Job because of the stability of profit every month even if that is lower than the crypto. We cannot assure that crypto currency will stay for how many years that's why i would choose real job.
you have to think more broadly, even I leave my real job to focus on crypto. Although crypto has no guarantee of profits for the future, but you can earn much money in a fast time. When we have a lot of money, you can open a business to guarantee the future, and it is already I did after getting lots of money from crypto.
729  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I wish I dump all the BTC in late DEC 2017 on: August 09, 2018, 11:15:25 AM
everyone will wish like that, but unfortunately, in crypto, we don't know what will happen, even on the next day. If we remember the past, of course, we will always regret. so from now, we have to learn from the experience.
730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Never Be greedy! on: August 08, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
While trading we have to follow few rules and without following those rules there is no way to be a successful one except a successful by chance. There are lots of rules of them greedy plays a vital role. While trading never be greedy. If you become greedy while trading then you can be assured that there is 90% possibility to be a lessor.

greed in trading will make us be destroyed. this is my experience I have always been greedy for gain many profits, and I don't pay attention to the trend. so I continued to hold and ultimately until now the price falls more than 80%.
731  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who believes in HODLING? on: August 08, 2018, 11:40:41 AM
Actually almost 90% traders, especially newcomers use holding because they did mistake and now have to do so. And in the current situation this is the only correct solution. As we can see on the above message, we only in the beginning. In this market wins only the one who has enough patience.
True, the situation of market is not getting better and the only way we can survive from losses is to hold and waur for the btc price pump.  Selling is the least that i can do if i really need to sell.
sometimes holding is a forced decision because there is no other choice, other than survive. because if the downturn is already above 50% we do have to hold, rather than sell, and sometimes can so regret after selling.
I believe in hodling, because ultimately bitcoin price will increase again after slamming deep enough, everything just takes time.
732  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 07, 2018, 02:46:08 PM
sangat wajar untuk tahun ini susah naik dan tren memang lagi menurun, karena bisa agan lihat tahun 2017 kemarin harga bitcoin naik gila gilaan. jadi menurut saya jangan berharap lebih untuk bitcoin meningkat ditahun ini. asal jangan turun terlalu dalam dan mudah2an tahun depan harga bisa naik.
Kita nantikan saja bagaimana trend pergerakan harga Bitcoin kedepannya gan, apakah tetap jalan di tempat atau
malah naik pesat seperti di akhir tahun 2017 kemarin. Ane berharap jangan sampai ada berita2 negatif lagi gan.
berita negatif sih pasti ada, tapi kalau tidak salah berita soal ETF saya baca baca itu bisa membuat harga bitcoin naik. awalnya sih diwacanakan agustus tapi diundur, entah kapan. katanya sih akhir tahun ini, ya mudah"an akhir tahun selalu menjadi kenaikan untuk harga bitcoin. kalau saya sih stabil di 150jt udah enak bitcoin untuk kedepannya nanti.
733  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 07, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
Kalau akhir tahun tembus 200jt itu harapan banget mas, sya sangat yakin dan berharap harga akan naik mungkin karena saya yakin jika bitcoin adalah koin yang akan sangat berharga dimasa depan jadi ane optimis pasti akan naik mas.,

setuju gan, sebagai pengguna bitcoin kita wajib optimistis kalau harga bitcoin dimasa yang akan datang akan kembali meroket gan, karena jika memilihat pergerakkan dan perkembangan bitcoin sangat baik gan, yang memungkinkan harga bitcoin bisa mengikuti harga di akhir tahun lalu gan yang mana bisa menembus harga diatas 200 jutaan.


Berbicara untuk masa depan sih sudah pasti gan harga Bitcoin akan sangat mahal harganya, karena Bitcoin hanya tersedia
21 juta unit, semakin kedepan semakin berkurang stok nya akhirnya Bitcoin akan semakin sulit di dapatkan sehingga membuat harganya pun meningkat.


Ane setuju kalo harga bitcoin kedepannya bakalan naik atau tinggi harganya,akan tetapi saat ini bitcoin belum ada tanda tanda untuk uptrend justeru yang ane lihat cenderung mengalami penurunan terus ya gan tapi sebagai pengguna crypto/bitcoin kita memang harus menyikapinya dengan positif saja yakin bahwa bitcoin adalah coin masa depan yang menguntungkan.kita berdo'a saja semoga bitcoin harganya lekas membaik ya gan.

sangat wajar untuk tahun ini susah naik dan tren memang lagi menurun, karena bisa agan lihat tahun 2017 kemarin harga bitcoin naik gila gilaan. jadi menurut saya jangan berharap lebih untuk bitcoin meningkat ditahun ini. asal jangan turun terlalu dalam dan mudah2an tahun depan harga bisa naik.
734  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Investasi Bitcoin atau Etherum on: August 06, 2018, 03:53:30 AM
jika agan mempunyai kedua pilihan tersebut, mana yang akan agan pilih ? menurut saya kalau bitcoin itu cocok untuk investasi jangka pendek dan Ethereum cocok untuk jangka panjang. share analisis agan  Cheesy
setuju sih kalau bitcoin untuk saat ini pergerakannya lebih cepet jadi enak buat jangka pendek, sedangkan eth dari dulu gerakannya selalu cukup lama. dan pastinya tergantung bitcoin juga, intinya kalau bitcoin bisa naik lebih tinggi ya pada akhirnya eth akan ngikutin juga. tapi karena saat ini pergerakan bitcoin tidak terlalu signifikan, jadi pergerakan eth ya segitu segitu saja sudah beberapa bulan ini.
735  Economy / Economics / Re: Why spend time in bitcoins? on: August 02, 2018, 03:19:27 PM
We all experience being financially challenged and we cannot deny that money makes us revolve around it. When we find ways to alleviate our financial suffering, we stand our ground and spend so much effort just to see the result and of course, benefit from it. Do you think that spending time and effort to gain bitcoins is a rational idea? Do you think that you could've been wasting your time? Let me know about your thoughts.

Initially I really hard to get the money in bitcoin and it's been running a couple of months when I first know bitcoin. but after that I was able to get more money in bitcoin, so the lesson is the effort will not betray the results. I always spend time everyday just for bitcoin and it's very worth it when I can get a lot of money in bitcoin. so as long as you can make a lot of money it will not be in vain.
736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why invest in altcoin? on: August 02, 2018, 02:42:25 PM
the simple is, in altcoin do not need huge capital, but we can get the maximum results. While in real estate of course we need huge capital. and also altcoin that's pretty simple, not too complicated and also of course benefits obtained could be faster and bigger.
737  Economy / Economics / Re: What are your plans for the next 5 years in Finance? on: August 02, 2018, 06:48:16 AM
I want to have "Passive Income"
I will raise capital to build a business that can provide me with passive income, so in my old age I do not need to work to earn money, how about you?
do you have an idea to build a business that can provide passive income with minimal capital?

currently, I've done that, try to get passive income from offline, because I think it's pretty hard to get passive income from crypto. so a few years results I get in bitcoin, current is enough to make the business and get passive income. like making a rented house with revenue around $1k/month, and it's good enough for the long term, and not to mention from other things.
738  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading or mining? on: August 02, 2018, 03:17:56 AM
yeah, mining at the beginning it took huge capital and we should be aiming for quick ROI, while trading can start with a small capital and pursue profit as much as possible. but on the other hand trading, it took knowledge, and it's really not easy. so if have the money I prefer mining, this a simple job. because trading should continue to focus on the screen as long as possible I think, and it's going to be quite a drain on time.
739  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Right time to buy a lot of bitcoin. on: August 02, 2018, 01:53:45 AM
If you are a short term trader yeah of corse this is the time for you to enter because it is predicted that bitcoin will fall around 7K and jump back to 10K.
But in long term it is not advisable to enter now because a huge dump is coming by. Most probably market will fall when btc hits 10K and will dump for around 4-5K where long term traders need to be patient.
earlier btc has dump until $5900, then after that and until now increased and reaching $8000. the choice is if the next few months bitcoin news does not make bitcoin price rise higher above $9000 I think the price will fall below $5000, so let's look at the next few months.
740  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Harga Tokenomy on: August 01, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
kalo menurut ane kabar listing di market baru seperti itu masih abu2 gan,,yang bisa memicu harga TEN di saat platformnya udah full launch
ane barusan baca artikel tokenomy di medium katanya tanggal 17 september platform exchange tokenomy udah bukan beta lagi
ini memiliki kemungkinan naiknya harga TEN lebih besar
iya masih jadi perencanaan namun ini tetap jadi perkembangan bagus bagi Ten,soal penglistian di market thailand tinggal nunggu saja kalau sudah di publikasi lewat sosmed berarti tidak lama lagi akan terjadi.
kalau september sih bertepatan dengan ETF juga kalau saya tidak salah baca, dan itu jelas akan membuat harga bitcoin naik dan otomatis TEN pun ikut terbang. saat ini mau tidak mau ya harga tergantung bitcoin.
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