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741  Other / Off-topic / Re: [CENSORING ME?] I found the real Satoshi on: June 04, 2013, 07:20:11 AM
I've just typed both of his email addresses in the "forgot password" field of the forums and it came back as no account existing, so the email address for the Satoshi account currently in the DB is different.

A mail has been sent to your email address. Click the link in that mail to set a new password.

The yahoo works fine for me o.o

When you try to pull of a shenanigan, better do it a bit more professionally. Satoshi 's forum handle is "satoshi", no capitalization of the initial.

You're an idiot, look at the dump, capitalization doesn't matter.


Hahaha, all the other luminaries' account names are correctly spelled.

And guess what I have found:
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15808,Satoshi_Nakamoto,jellybeans.andjohn+mtgox@gmail.com,$1$2y78fc.6$Ykkf99VOvG3w2vwNZaJpK0

Now, try to find this account profile on this forum.
742  Other / Off-topic / Re: [CENSORING ME?] I found the real Satoshi on: June 04, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
When you try to pull of a shenanigan, better do it a bit more professionally. Satoshi 's forum handle is "satoshi", no capitalization of the initial.
743  Other / Off-topic / Re: [CENSORING ME?] I found the real Satoshi on: June 04, 2013, 07:01:17 AM
Huh? OP, why didn't you just post the link to the IRC record so people can know the context?

Here it is: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2011/07/16
744  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 04, 2013, 06:17:09 AM
I tend to believe that people losing their faiths in religion not because of their misfortunes, but their fortune to be able to live in the modern era, and the availability of alternative explanations. Medieval people suffered a lot more than perhaps any of us, yet they are always feverishly religious, without finding out how much better life could possibly be, or having access to alternatives(they didn't know about Confucianism, and Greek/Latin literatures are off the limit for most people) , you will just choose to believe life is what it should be, because it's the same for everyone, or rather, your material well-being, and everything else is decided by you lineage, you have not seen an exception. Actually, the real revolution of thoughts only happened after the scholars(all of them clerics) started studying works of Antiquity, and learning things that none of them had conceived for the previous hundreds of years. Then slowly it started to transform every aspect of people's life, first the nobles, then the poors.

Also hundreds of years later we are perhaps much more confident with our own judgement, be it about morality or something else, seeing that people here pretty much question God because they are already assertive about certain things being right regardless of God, unimaginable for the Medieval folks.
745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Verbal Contracts on: June 04, 2013, 05:42:33 AM
Why do you need to go verbal when you can notarize with blockchain.... Roll Eyes

My experience is that, if you don't even care to put things down, most likely you will miss out on crucial details, like lending someone money without specifying a repayment date, which is not enforceable whether on a forum(the TradeFortress case) or on a court.
746  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 03, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Why Americans have to draw lines when it comes to belief is beyond me.....
Same here. Guess freedom of speech and will encourages discussions and conflicts between those who think different. It isn't something that anyone can change or easily influence.

It's interesting when they adopt a certain belief they tend to accept the whole 'package', a complete system of world view and way of living, while in East Asia we casually hop from one to another from time to time, and mixing things up a bit, and can hardly feel anything unusual.

Yeah, we had that in US too, we called it New Age Cheesy  Crystalz and dreamcatchers & Tarot & scented candles. 

New Age is fine, but still, it's the 'coming' of something.. Wink
747  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 03, 2013, 03:50:37 PM
Why Americans have to draw lines when it comes to belief is beyond me.....
Same here. Guess freedom of speech and will encourages discussions and conflicts between those who think different. It isn't something that anyone can change or easily influence.

It's interesting when they adopt a certain belief they tend to accept the whole 'package', a complete system of world view and way of living, while in East Asia we casually hop from one to another from time to time, and mixing things up a bit, and can hardly feel anything unusual. Maybe we are just quite a bit more superstitious and want blessings from any deity we come upon.

Otoh, whether there is a place for a creator in the Universe is an interesting question on its own, if you can throw away some of the premiums that came with the 'package'.
748  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 03, 2013, 03:12:29 PM
Why Americans have to draw lines when it comes to belief is beyond me.....
749  Other / Off-topic / Re: Unknown Mathematician Proves Elusive Property of Prime Numbers on: June 03, 2013, 03:09:57 PM
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No impact on Bitcoin

Let's hope the VC W Twins feel the same way.

VCs who know something about primes? You kidding me?
750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you sleep with me for $100, No? how about $1,000,000. Maybe? on: June 03, 2013, 03:08:09 PM
So now we learned that you are a prostitute, we just need to wrangle over price...

Bitcoin is a payment system that can be bought. Dont give me this "but were decentralized bullshit"

If and when the corporations/govt want to make bitcoin usable and stable enough for the world to conduct commerce it can bid its price up so it no longer a shallow pool(yes we early adopters will win a bunch debt/military based money) But they will own enough coins to stabalize the price, removing any notion this is gold 2.0

They will destroy any weak hands.

Unless bitcoin has its own value not attached to that of fiat, It become just another payment option.

You thought you are the master of the prostitute, actually, she is your master.

When you go all out like this to get my bitcoins, things will then have to be arranged on my terms, and I will make sure you are the sucker in the end.
751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is "money laundering" really that big of a deal? on: June 03, 2013, 02:44:47 PM
Uncheck money laundering is a huge deal. It is by and large used for criminal and/or politically motived (IE: terrorism or otherwise) operations. One of the core methods that holds organised crime at bay is the government's ability to constrict their money supply. You can only get so large as an organisation if you do all your transactions in cash.

Those guys are far more innovative then our authorities, I assure you, and Bitcoin just give them a platform.
752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FinCEN: Bitcoin Self-Regulation on: June 03, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
The problem is what will happen if  said organization fail to prevent some illicit behaviour technically unpreventable?

Also, anyone still spreading the Gox "fake DDOS" FUD is free to go to #gox to ask for a DDOS advisory report issued by Prolexic of any particular day from user neofutur, and then call Prolexic to check if it is legit.
753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This sums it up well. on: June 03, 2013, 01:04:56 PM
Self contradictory. To make murder legal REQUIRES law. Outside of law it's a matter of morals. Immoral men will murder regardless of law.

Thus, the first requisite of freedom is general competent armament. For those few men without morals to be made to think twice, or never again.

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"Whoever desires to found a state and give it laws, must start with assuming that all men are bad and ever ready to display their vicious nature, whenever they may find occasion for it."
--Niccolo Machiavelli

I'm guessing Lohoris would be the first to found a state if ever we were absent of one.  Since murder would then be legal (which would just make it killing, technically,) it would be assumed that all people, everywhere, would begin systematically killing every person they came across, until everyone was dead.  Somehow, I don't believe this is normal human behavior.

This was normal human behaviour. Not sure if it still is consider that we maybe much more enlightened then our ancestors.
754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is "money laundering" really that big of a deal? on: June 03, 2013, 11:14:35 AM
...this just made me think of a new alt coin CleanCoin™.

I'm anticipating a pretty good chance that we'll not need an alt coin for that since that may be the trajectory of Bitcoin proper.

One of the more interesting observations from the 2013 conference came from the security discussion.  With the exception of Ranier, there seemed to most like a no-brainer to employ tarnish/taint.  I anticipate it happening shortly after mining and SPV servers can be centralized enough to apply pressure at the network level.

The (likely correct) idea seemed to be that a relatively few entities honoring a taint framework would be sufficient to implement it because even those who dis-agreed and would otherwise take BTC at face value would have to worry about getting shafted going forward.  It would be interesting to know if any modeling has been attempted on this.

It was also interesting that ~vess gave a pretty clear warning about using mixing services.  The implication seemed to be that if/when taint is introduced, there will be no grandfathering.  A lot of people might be in for a rude awakening.  All my coins came from Tradehill-I, but I heard rumors that some ~allinvain coins had been deposited with them prior to some of my purchases.  So I might be looking at taking it up the ass for something I had no control over or knowledge about. (For those who are interested, several people took Tradehill coins straight to Mt. Gox and Mark immediately locked them based on his own taint analysis system I guess.)

It also strikes me that a taint system would be an outstanding method of encouraging users to pay fees where appropriate.  The tainting body itself is going to be needing some funding to do their job (e.g., gumshoe work in identifying legitimate thefts and what-not.)  And, of course, the Bitcoin Foundation probably deserves some cut of the economic activity for their services in shaping the solution's trajectory.



I am going to tell you one of the things that will happen.

"Polluted" coins will fall in price, while "fresh" new coins will gain, illicit businesses will carry on as usual, it's not like the big bosses are the only ones who know how to employ taint analysis.

And let's not forget about colored coins, which can used once by, say, drug dealer and discarded.

Vessnes should resign from Bitcoin Foundation for no other reason but his utter failure to understand Bitcoin alone.
755  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: MTGOX丢失7000多美元 on: June 03, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
MTGOX丢失7000多美元 求助MT账户历史显示是2013年5月31日 3时 这个时间段被取出 本来账户是美元

楼主你好,我跟你同一时间被盗同样金额,而且最后余额也是0.15比特币。  我发邮件问过Mt gox,他们完全不管,而且对方在我的BTC转出发邮件通知了我,让我及时跟她们说明是否是我本人操作。结果我说了不是我,是被盗了,对方仍然不管,只让我报警。  美国这边警察也不懂这些东西,所以这事儿不了了之。

我大概是3点10分左右被转出的。

你如果可以的话加我QQ,387772811.

可以的话把你的转出交易贴出来,我有些怀疑需要证实。
帐号现在联系了MT 正在被锁定中,我需要先和他们联系才可以打开

我说的是引用你的那个人,你的那笔转出交易我已经知道了。
756  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Please do not change MAX_BLOCK_SIZE on: June 03, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
It's the bandwidth and the computing power - keeping only the UTXO does not change much here.

Bandwidth ?  Like 150 Mbit down / 10Mbit up you can already get in most developed countries ?

Computing power ? Like Beowulf cluster you can build at home ? Like Core-I7 ? Dedicated FPGA's ? Extremely powerful Graphics cards ?

I don't see ANY PROBLEM AT ALL here.
You don't - I do.
Lets just stop here, then.


Obviously, soon not everybody will be able to run a full node. It will be a job for geeks, academies, non-profit fundations and companies. And that is completely normal.
You forgot to list governments and corporations.
No - it is not normal.
It would be a huge threat to the network, and thus to the currency itself.

People who really care about their freedom is always a minority, whenever, wherever.

We can't force them to care about it, we are already fortunate enough to have a chance to change something.
757  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Please do not change MAX_BLOCK_SIZE on: June 03, 2013, 09:31:13 AM
You can keep only the UTXO set rather than the full blockchain.

Also, I may turn off my miner for profitability reasons, but it doesn't imply that I would not turn it back on at my own loss just to protect my freedom, if it is in real danger.
Yes, but it is not the storage that we are concerned of.

It's the bandwidth and the computing power - keeping only the UTXO does not change much here.

The USB miner can solve the computing power problem, if people really care a bit about their freedom, they will run the miners when they hardly cost them anything(it's only 2.5W atm), albeit generating negligible revenues, it's up to them.

Bandwidth....well, I suspect it will be dat big a problem, true not everyone will have access to enough bandwidth, but a significant percentage will be, the ISPs could cause some troubles though.
758  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Please do not change MAX_BLOCK_SIZE on: June 03, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
You can keep only the UTXO set rather than the full blockchain.

Also, I may turn off my miner for profitability reasons, but it doesn't imply that I would not turn it back on at my own loss just to protect my freedom, if it is in real danger.
759  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 03, 2013, 08:52:07 AM
Okay, since this is supposed to be a thread about Religion and Bitcoin.....

I would not bother God with my real-life issues if he does exist and answer my prays, instead I would ask him:" Could you show me a  preimage of '00000000000000000000000000000000' under SHA256 hash function? Thanks." This is very important for me because if he does exist, I would not doubt that P=NP, which is an utterly profound revelation if you think about it. Aslo hash functions are somehow constructions of human minds, so it would be interesting to see if God can reverse it.
760  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 03, 2013, 05:42:12 AM
Of course you know the answers you will get to the "there is no God because the world is evil." Most of them will give you the whole "free will" speech but I have to agree with you. If God is watching all this happen and turns a blind eye because he wants people to live their life without interference.

That "free will" thing doesn't fly when you spend a bunch of nights passionately praying for hours for god to intervene, even just a little bit, only to find out a few weeks later that the person you were praying for bought a one-way ticket to hell through suicide after not being able to handle their god-ignored situation. That whole premise didn't make any sense to me either.

Also, if you think about it, didn't Jesus basically commit "suicide-by-cop?"

Actually, the question gets really interesting when you stop trying to seek meaningful answers to your real-life problems from it.

And no, not the Bible, sages living three thousand years ago have nothing to do with the creation of the Universe, still an invaluable work about literature/history/moral guidance though.
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