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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
Our BRAND NAME is Spreadcoin.  What's under the hood is a gasoline engine, also known as masternodes.  It's not exactly like other gasoline engines, in fact, it's better in many respects.  But it's still a gasoline engine.  If Mr. Spread turns the gasoline engine into a flywheel, then let's talk. 

I respect your opinion and agree that what spreadcoin uses ATM are masternodes and instantx.

It would be wrong to rename those things now.

Not unethical, but wrong. A bad move... like in chess when you make a bad move.... you don't know the consequences of what this bad move might have, but you feel it's a bad move.

But what is wrong about it?
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:42:29 PM
Our BRAND NAME is Spreadcoin.  What's under the hood is a gasoline engine, also known as masternodes.  It's not exactly like other gasoline engines, in fact, it's better in many respects.  But it's still a gasoline engine.  If Mr. Spread turns the gasoline engine into a flywheel, then let's talk.  
Okay I get what you are saying I just didn't think it was very unethical for the community to suggest names lol I think it was a good way to get the community talking again and positivity returning to the thread Smiley I agree that Evan Duffield deserves the respect and no one here has ever tried to disrespect Evan from what I can recall but I get what you are saying about that the masternodes system is still in fact exactly what it is a masternode system.  I just didn't think that saying you were going to leave the community over this was really necessary in all due respect Smiley  That's what this community is about isn't it? Discussing what we believe to be the "BEST" interest for SpreadCoin and the future of this coin? I mean that's what the discussion has all been about right?  And I mean every single person in the community agrees that the final decision on anything is always left in the hands of Mr. Spread and there is no denying that.  I just feel that there was nothing wrong with the community discussing points and thoughts towards SpreadCoin that's all Smiley Hope that kind of clears things up a bit buddy Smiley

My concern is that if we fail to distinguish ourselves from another coin then we will look exactly the same. There will be no point in investing for the average user. Why buy SPR if you can buy DRK? Mr. Spreads MN program is different, maybe not a lot, but enough to have earned a different name.
743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
Different gasoline engines work differently. If we fail to express that then it will look exactly the same. Everything has a model number, name, etc. I assure you, changing the name is entirely ethical, both business and legal.
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:27:03 PM
Our BRAND NAME is Spreadcoin.  What's under the hood is a gasoline engine, also known as masternodes.  It's not exactly like other gasoline engines, in fact, it's better in many respects.  But it's still a gasoline engine.  If Mr. Spread turns the gasoline engine into a flywheel, then let's talk. 

This is a link to different types of gasoline engines and their respective names:
http://www.rapid-racer.com/car-engines.php
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:25:46 PM
I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole.  It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising.  Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels.  I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner.  So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do.  That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't.  If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it.  I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.
What? How do you figure in anyway that this community would be disrespecting Evan Duffield or lacking ethics by simply tweaking the names of things they have tweaked? Like you're saying if you rename stuff I'm not going to be a part of this anymore?? That is kind of a little bit ridiculous don't you think MyFarm? I mean I get what you are saying about having the respect for Evan and DarkCoin all together but I believe all people were suggesting is trying to escape the fury of comments regarding SpreadCoin as a DarkCoin copy/paste shitclone coin by taking a stance and saying that if the masternodes and Instantx that Mr. Spread is working on are in anyway different than the way DarkCoin's are that we should rename them such just to separate us from being further deemed as the copy/paste shitclone coin that the people are claiming SpreadCoin to be.  We are simply trying to show our respect for Mr. Spread as being just as talented of a Developer as Evan Duffield by doing so.  I mean I really hope that something as simple as renaming a few tweak modifications wouldn't make you leave the SpreadCoin community?  I still don't understand why you would think though that the community would be lacking ethics in doing so?  We have never been disrespectful towards Evan or the DarkCoin community at all and have always stated that Evan was an amazing Developer and that DarkCoin was a terrific coin as well Smiley

I view the renaming of a technology like masternodes when they are clearly masternodes to be lacking in ethics.  And I won't be a part of that.  If/when Mr. Spread continues to innovate masternodes to the point they are no longer masternodes, then name them whatever you want.  But they are masternodes right now and Evan Duffield deserves the respect of them being called as much.  If you created a new technology and someone took it and renamed it for their benefit, how would you feel?

In 2002, Jaguar realesed the S-Type.

The S-type was/is a very good car, but was build around Ford Mondeo's Cassie/suspension/engine.

The S-type got allot of flack for practically being a Mondeo!

The Jag separated it's self from the stigma of being a Mondeo by clearly showing the superiority of the build.

Jaguar did not call their car Jaguar Mondeo lol They called it the Jaguar S-type.

Yes the S-type used allot of the core features, which make up a Mondeo, but had every right to call it something else.

However, i agree with MyFarm and Georgem that if the names are going to change, more innovation must take place first.

You see, Jaguar changed much of the mondeo Chasse/Engine to suit their car.

But how much of it has to change before we can completely call this Mr. Spreads idea?
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
Masternodes are a concept.  What Mr. Spread has created fits within that concept.

Breathing is a concept yet we each have our own name.

What i'm trying to get at is that we are all humans and still have different identities. We all drive cars, which have different names. We all own computers, manufactured by different companies. If we fail to distinguish ourselves it will look like we ripped off an idea. We will look no better than a folex watch. And guess what a Folex watch is a heck of a lot cheaper than a rolex watch.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole.  It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising.  Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels.  I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner.  So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do.  That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't.  If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it.  I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.
What? How do you figure in anyway that this community would be disrespecting Evan Duffield or lacking ethics by simply tweaking the names of things they have tweaked? Like you're saying if you rename stuff I'm not going to be a part of this anymore?? That is kind of a little bit ridiculous don't you think MyFarm? I mean I get what you are saying about having the respect for Evan and DarkCoin all together but I believe all people were suggesting is trying to escape the fury of comments regarding SpreadCoin as a DarkCoin copy/paste shitclone coin by taking a stance and saying that if the masternodes and Instantx that Mr. Spread is working on are in anyway different than the way DarkCoin's are that we should rename them such just to separate us from being further deemed as the copy/paste shitclone coin that the people are claiming SpreadCoin to be.  We are simply trying to show our respect for Mr. Spread as being just as talented of a Developer as Evan Duffield by doing so.  I mean I really hope that something as simple as renaming a few tweak modifications wouldn't make you leave the SpreadCoin community?  I still don't understand why you would think though that the community would be lacking ethics in doing so?  We have never been disrespectful towards Evan or the DarkCoin community at all and have always stated that Evan was an amazing Developer and that DarkCoin was a terrific coin as well Smiley

I view the renaming of a technology like masternodes when they are clearly masternodes to be lacking in ethics.  And I won't be a part of that.  If/when Mr. Spread continues to innovate masternodes to the point they are no longer masternodes, then name them whatever you want.  But they are masternodes right now and Evan Duffield deserves the respect of them being called as much.  If you created a new technology and someone took it and renamed it for their benefit, how would you feel?

But it is not the same thing. Spreadnodes are different than masternodes. The average user will not know the difference.
748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
But I don't care if you know I have a dick or not. I never claimed to have one.
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
I would like everyone with an opinion about the name change for Masternodes to place it here:
http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116.0
This seems like a big enough issue that we should discuss it and make it known to Mr. Spread how we feel.
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 08:01:37 AM
Going to place the downvote on smartnode.  

Ambiguous connotation, no direct association with prior terms and makes it more confusing.

There is no need for a renaming in my opinion...unless we go with SflarfinNodes!
Masternode is also an ambiguous connotation. It also sounds very centralised. And "node" is an association.

Agreed, spreadnode makes the most sense in my opinion. Our MN are decentralized, or spread apart. Spreadnode. Mastnode means that the masters own it. We should have no masters.
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 07:57:46 AM
I don't care about what its name is,I care about whether the pool mining issue can be fixed.

There is no issue. The coin was designed to make pool mining a ridiculous idea. If you pool mine then you will lose your coins. Unless you get into a pool that you completely trust. The likelihood of that happening is slim, which means that coins will be greatly decentralized. We may see a few small pools popping up, but they will not let in anyone they don't trust.  The coin is working perfectly as planned.
If you never mine at nonce-pool,please shut up!


I'm sorry, have you mined at nonce-pool? Do you know what is going on here? Perhaps your lost.
Yes,I do mine at nonce-pool.It works as well as any other coin with no difference.

Well since the pool function works perfectly go ahead and send me your login credentials.
Unless of course your lying, or you realize that I could steal from the other miners. But if neither of these things are true go ahead and send me the log in credentials. Once I take a picture to prove it to the world you can change your password and all will be well again.
752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
Why don't we call our version of Masternodes Smartnodes. It makes more sense because a masternode isn't really the master of anything.  a Smartnode on the other hand is smarter than a normal node because it can do IX and mixing.

Plus, smartnode starts with an S.

What do you think?


Edit: also "Master" sounds centralised unlike "smart"

This is also a great idea.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:07:57 AM
If anyone does make a legit Jesuscoin please let me in on the pre-mine. Also I would prefer sha256, or X11 or both!

Edit: Also it should have a ridiculously low supply. Perhaps 10,000?

YES!
Matthew 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 04:01:26 AM
I still don't know why there is no ChristCoin. You know "in God we trust" that kinda thing. I bet it would go BIG.

Oh...they tried...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399681.0

I'm still amazed that it didn't go to the moon...but then again, I think people who believe in Jesus don't necessarily believe in the moon...; )

It looks like someone made a joke coin. I'm serious though this could take off. Think about it. You could rip off any coin and few people would dare calling it a shitcoin. Especially if people thought God was backing it. It could not fail.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:58:25 AM
I still don't know why there is no ChristCoin. You know "in God we trust" that kinda thing. I bet it would go BIG.

I'm sure they are working on it.... but it's probably difficult for them to find good christian mathematicians!  Grin

lol with GodX11 algo and HolyGhostSend

...actually guys this might be infallible.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:52:16 AM
I still don't know why there is no ChristCoin. You know "in God we trust" that kinda thing. I bet it would go BIG.

I'm sure they are working on it.... but it's probably difficult for them to find good christian mathematicians!  Grin

I'm just imagining all of the backwoods republicans who will refused to buy into virtual currency. This would be perfect for them. And let's face it, republicans are great at holding back progress. 
757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:45:29 AM
Are we really having the bit/satoshi argument here.

Refer to it as the industry standard reference. No name change necessary.

I am just happy that we have our original thread back. hahaha.

See how such discussions keep us entertained and the trolls away? I love it.

Everything we say here is just thinking out loud, to be taken with a grain of salt.

Ofcourse.  Roll Eyes

I'll buy that foe a dolla...spit balling is fine.  But there is no reason to start implementing a name so that we have to explain everything again.  People know what Masternodes are.  The Masternodes here provide the same function and people already know what that entails.  If anything, refer to them as 'easier Masternodes'.

That said, I think that there is no harm in the discussion...I also think that Mr. Spread has the final say.  If he continues to use the terminology that he has been using then there it is, perhaps.

Of course, there is something to be said about a mildly heated discussion focused on SPR that keeps the trolls at bay...even if it is mildly fallacious...and I loled at the ape analogy.  Let's use this as the main selling point when we market SPR in the Bible Belt...Cheesy

I still don't know why there is no ChristCoin. You know "in God we trust" that kinda thing. I bet it would go BIG.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:30:02 AM
Calling them [whatever] decentralized masternodes won't work either because, make no mistake, Evan Duffield WILL fix the reference node issue at some point and Darkcoin masternodes will be decentralized as well.

They're masternodes. 

I don't know why I'm arguing this as Mr. Spread has proven himself to be ethical which is part of the reason I've invested like I have.  I have little doubt he'll keep the name the same.

Mr. Spread already has kept the name the same. He always talks about masternodes.

I don't think this has any meaning to him at the moment... it's just a name.

My dream is that spreadcoin keeps on innovating more and more, until one day what we now call masternode (influenced by darkcoin) has so far deviated from darkcoin that it can't be called masternode anymore.

Kinda like what separates humans from apes.... yes, those are our roots... but we are our own species now.
Sure, you could insist that humans ARE apes... but at some point it can also be considered an insult to call a human an ape, right?  Grin

Or calling a tree a seed, or a young girl a mother. Those things grow up and develop and become something else. If we don't differentiate that then people will just assume that we are the same.
759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:25:13 AM
I don't care about what its name is,I care about whether the pool mining issue can be fixed.

There is no issue. The coin was designed to make pool mining a ridiculous idea. If you pool mine then you will lose your coins. Unless you get into a pool that you completely trust. The likelihood of that happening is slim, which means that coins will be greatly decentralized. We may see a few small pools popping up, but they will not let in anyone they don't trust.  The coin is working perfectly as planned.
If you never mine at nonce-pool,please shut up!


I'm sorry, have you mined at nonce-pool? Do you know what is going on here? Perhaps your lost.
760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 12, 2015, 03:11:25 AM
Calling them [whatever] decentralized masternodes won't work either because, make no mistake, Evan Duffield WILL fix the reference node issue at some point and Darkcoin masternodes will be decentralized as well.

They're masternodes.  

I don't know why I'm arguing this as Mr. Spread has proven himself to be ethical which is part of the reason I've invested like I have.  I have little doubt he'll keep the name the same.

He may do that, but it will be terrible for trying to market the coin.
If we get a decentralized masternode up before Evan does then we can own that. He can't.

And since the products are different we are stealing the name masternode. Its unethical.
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