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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Sportsbooks supporting alt coins on: February 10, 2017, 10:40:21 PM
Directbet.eu is great, one of the most trustable sportsmaker casino around, never had any problems using their services but I don't think the support that many altcoins (other than ETH and I remember DOGE I think, it was a big part of their Direct Casino, not sure how that went).

Another option you can consider is exchanging your altcoins for BTC with a service like Shapeshift or Blocktrades before betting. I know the spreads are not the best but they are very easy to use and extremely fast.
742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 10, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
big win for Oklahoma against Cleveland: 118-109.
Westbrook makes his 26th triple-double in 54 matches with 29 points 11 assists and 12 rebounds (average 30.9, 10.2, 10.5)

Bad night for L. James marking only 18 points 7 assists and 5 rebounds in 40'.



Well that shows how good james is considering his stats are that from a bad night. Though i think this clearly shows that this is westbrook's year. I don't see anyone coming close to matching westbrook's performance every night. Sone might say harden but i believe russ is on a whole different level than the rest of the league this season.

I can't believe Lue keeps playing the Big 3, especially Lebron with another +40 minutes game. After the game in Indiana it was evident to anyone that at least Lebron should rest, even take the game off. This was a game you could afford to lose (you did just that after all) so why pushing your stars that hard. I think TNT must put some pressure on Lue and the Cavs management for the big 3 to play but if that was the case then why not just limit their minutes, +40 minutes for Lebron at this stage is complete unacceptable especially on back to back games and after an overtime at Washington which was a very hard fought game.
743  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: February 09, 2017, 05:56:32 PM
Had 520, 502, and 504 cloudflare errors (used two browsers), while trading seems to be continuing??

We're working to restore access to the site. Trading via API is still possible, but the performance is degraded. The best place to get updates is by following our status page.

https://status.kraken.com/

Got my coins out just in time it seems, thanks for your help if you had anything to do with it, support got back to me a couple of hours ago before all the chaos.
744  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: February 09, 2017, 02:43:00 PM
I'm trying to withdraw both ETH and BTC and all my tries were unsuccessful so far, kinda basic stuff. Both got cancelled after being on hold for hours. I got their emails about the withdrawal but no link was sent to approve the transaction either. I've already contacted their support and they don't answer either.

Say what you will about Poloniex (and even Bittrex which is a very nice underestimated exchange) but in more than a year nothing like this ever happened to me at those. I'm only there just to trade Iconomi but I'll getting my business elsewhere as soon as I can if this is how they operate.

Please make a support ticket about this and PM me the ticket number so I can make sure support looks into it for you.

Sent. Almost two days now waiting for support replies and the whole week trying to withdraw without success, completely ridiculous. Deposit went pretty smooth though.
745  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: February 08, 2017, 09:33:27 PM
I'm trying to withdraw both ETH and BTC and all my tries were unsuccessful so far, kinda basic stuff. Both got cancelled after being on hold for hours. I got their emails about the withdrawal but no link was sent to approve the transaction either. I've already contacted their support and they don't answer either.

Say what you will about Poloniex (and even Bittrex which is a very nice underestimated exchange) but in more than a year nothing like this ever happened to me at those. I'm only there just to trade Iconomi but I'll getting my business elsewhere as soon as I can if this is how they operate.
746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lucky ! does it influences by a woman beside of us? on: February 07, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
I think having a woman around will only make a man bolder and prone to taking more risks whatever the activity is. It may be subconscious of course (sometimes) but I've read articles saying how men overeat like crazy on dates to impress women and they don't even know they are doing that because of a biological/evolution propensity.

This exact same thing applies here and I would say it would be a much stronger effect. One can only conclude that the consequences would be either total loss or the biggest jackpot of your life!
747  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: DirectBet Soccer Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter ! on: February 07, 2017, 07:29:32 PM
HT : Barcelona 0 - 0 Atlético Madrid
FT : Barcelona 0 - 0 Atlético Madrid
748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 07, 2017, 03:07:12 PM
The game between the Cavaliers vs The Wizards is very entertaining, Lebron making miracle shot cause the Wizards to end their home winning streak. Now, this team is better now, I think the Cavaliers has a new threat from Wizards, Scott Brooks made this team like the Thunder which are good in offense, he know how to utilize the talents from his team now.
He almost spoiled the match by not scoring the rebound and then he scores that ( as you mentioned miraculous shot ) 3 pointer which was just amazing and unbelievable as he was off balance and only 1 second was remaining . They then concurred the match in OT , great entertaining match.
LeBron got really lucky there. The ball hit the backboard and then went in. He missed a open layup in the game and then did that. He obviously meant to shoot a 3 but got really lucky scoring it while being so off-balanced.

The game was amazing and yes it looked like a lucky shot from Lebron although if you watch the replay it almost seemed like he made it intentionally as it hits nothing but net and from that angle it would be a no brainer to shoot a backboard shot. Not to mention the fantastic pass from Kevin Love, we are used to that already.

Regarding the Lebron/Melo/Love triangle, I think there must be some truth to it, I think the Cavs could explore options about trading Kevin Love but just not straight up for Melo, that's just nonsense. However involving a third team that could bring another caliber player for the Cavs (Melo and someone else) could be very enticing. Kevin Love has been playing great this season but he has back problems and I think he's really not a heavyweight in this team (he might be the third best player on the roster but he's miles ahead from Lebron and Kyrie). Cleveland could be a better team without him depending on what players come on board.
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 08:42:40 PM


Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?

I love my future... Cool




I hope they go big with Gnosis (but they don't overpay with this new auction system), I have some reservations about their two tokens but I think it's one of the most awaited ICOs this year. Byteball investment was genius, I wasn't even aware of the project like you said and they scooped it all up. I hope they can take some profits already though since they will be getting upcoming shares in future distributions. The price doesn't seem sustainable right now.

This one seems interesting too, especially because of the huge dating market, but it's not only just a decentralized dating platform, it's more like a hub to find similar interest across the globe:

http://matchpool.co

can you actually say they are legit and that its possible ICONOMI team will invest to them somehow?
its true dating market is huge. the nerds are always finding dates online and guess what. most if not all kids today grow up as nerds lol, i guess online dating is the future.

I don't know, the dating market is already a little convoluted with Tinder and similar apps but this is aiming to match not only romantic couples but also partners in whatever field you can imagine based on common interests, work experience, etc. So it can be used to employ someone with similar past experiences (or sending him/her an offer) or form a band with similar music tastes, etc.

It's not my job to do the research per se, just thought it was a lesser known ICO and seems quite interesting. We all know about Melonport, Gnosis and other upcoming ones.
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 07:11:21 PM


Icos for me are past...the Iconomi Team does research the best projects for me and invest in the most promising ones, did i missed anything else?

I love my future... Cool




I hope they go big with Gnosis (but they don't overpay with this new auction system), I have some reservations about their two tokens but I think it's one of the most awaited ICOs this year. Byteball investment was genius, I wasn't even aware of the project like you said and they scooped it all up. I hope they can take some profits already though since they will be getting upcoming shares in future distributions. The price doesn't seem sustainable right now.

This one seems interesting too, especially because of the huge dating market, but it's not only just a decentralized dating platform, it's more like a hub to find similar interest across the globe:

http://matchpool.co
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE! on: February 06, 2017, 07:03:50 PM
I repeat: use virtual machines

RE: MAC Users, I know it's kinda tedious,but if you want your ANS out, try  http://www.imore.com/how-install-windows-10-mac-without-spending-dime/

For all new Antshares Windows wallet users:

You can download Chain.zip -  270.7 MB to speed up blockchain sync.
It takes 40 minutes to download. And good until block 442604.

Just extract to AntsharesCore folder.



Yeah thanks again for your suggestions but seeing how this is going down the drain I don't even care to do all that work, for what? To dump below 10k sats? We keep mentioning this because it's not a Mac issue alone, it's ridiculous they didn't care to create a simple method to withdraw right from the ICO wallet, they held all investors hostage and they keep doing that, I'm tired of how unprofessional this whole process was handled.

I can name you countless actual scams (and many other 100% legit projects too) that had wallets for all platforms or options to withdraw from ICO sites right after the end of the ICO. I can't understand how many of you are totally ok with this, it speaks miles about the future and what's coming, the price is clearly reflecting that. I understand you don't want to create panic but enough is enough, we need to held the team accountable, this is completely unacceptable.
752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 06:49:28 PM

Who cares about Poloniex, a place where Pascal coin and ETC pump and dump, shady business all around, you don't even know what they do behind curtains. Kraken has a lot more reputation since they can deal with fiat (in the US) and they listed ICN without major issues.

As for Melon Port, well go ahead an invest in those tokens, you don't even know what's the total supply, they will mint more for expenses...ok. Melonport sounds great though in the long run since the team seems very professional and that can only add value to Ethereum ecosystem eventually, but I don't see the investment there. Tokens are not like blockchain coins/assets which are a integral part of the network itself.

Same for Augur for example or First Blood, you get dividends or profits per transaction, it makes sense to hold them.

That's what worried me. They just said more will be released later, but give no specifics whatsoever. For all I know the ICO is going to be 5% of total coins and my investment will be worth fuck all.

It is an interesting project and I will keep an eye on it, but I would much rather own shares in the platform.

I have no idea why this guy is obsessed with Polo. How many company shares are traded on Polo? None.

EDIT: Just found this discussion on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/melonproject/comments/5ok42j/melonport_contribution_vs_inflation/

These guys are going to have absolutely enormous inflationary pressure relative to the tokens available at the ICO. They will generate more tokens each year than is initially available to the public at their ICO.  It could be a very successful company whilst leaving its initial investors with absolutely jack shit. For it to be a worthwhile investment it would have to grow very large, very quickly.

I agree, seems similar to Lykke, I participated in the ICO without much research, then I saw that basically it was completely overvalued with a fixed price of 0.05 CHF and more than a billion coins, lol, sold instantly back to BTC (which by then started a huge rally before the end of the year). At least those were actually shares in Lykke company and they already have a very nice working product I must say.

But with Melonport, they ask for a lot without anything close to being ready, what do you think it will happen in the meantime from the ICO to 2018-2019? The mother of all dumps! Also like I said, they aim to decentralize Iconomi, so their project is much more ambitious, perhaps in 5 years we can vote to move certain aspects of Iconomi to Melonport as we won't need Cashila to handle it all, but that could take almost a decade to become a reality if at all.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.

Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?


Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic  system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head Wink charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.

I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...

Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.

We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.

That's exactly why MelonPort can be listed on Poloniex while ICN will NEVER EVER be listed on Polo since ICN is a security.

MelonPort ICO is starting next week and ending March 15, and will probably list on Polo soon after, while ICN will NEVER make it to Poloniex.

http://www.coindesk.com/meet-the-ex-banker-using-ethereum-to-take-on-traditional-hedge-funds/


Who cares about Poloniex, a place where Pascal coin and ETC pump and dump, shady business all around, you don't even know what they do behind curtains. Kraken has a lot more reputation since they can deal with fiat (in the US) and they listed ICN without major issues.

As for Melon Port, well go ahead an invest in those tokens, you don't even know what's the total supply, they will mint more for expenses...ok. Melonport sounds great though in the long run since the team seems very professional and that can only add value to Ethereum ecosystem eventually, but I don't see the investment there. Tokens are not like blockchain coins/assets which are a integral part of the network itself.

Same for Augur for example or First Blood, you get dividends or profits per transaction, it makes sense to hold them.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 05:50:46 PM
With this attitude, I highly doubt any investors would trust their funds on your centralized Iconomi platform.

Question: Why would people buy crypto funds from shady Middlemen in Slovenia (Iconomi), while they can skip these middle men and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort or TaaS where everything from trades to performance is transparent, and especially since these other platforms can also hold funds safely in Cold Storage which eliminates DAO-like hacks?


Decentralized is just a fancy word for democratization of a system that ends up being a communistic  system in the end (our modern western system) this is great for you but china existed for 5000 jears untill now. Whithout Segwit miners will soon have a 17 bn dollar gun at your head Wink charging whatever fees they want. And btw what are you going to say to the thousands of noobies of whos transactions is not being realised becouse block size is full? FYI I own both bitcoin and icn.

I don't think you understand...Investors don't give a damn about democratization of a system or communistic systems...

Once investors realize that they can skip these middle men (Iconomi) and buy identical crypto funds on a decentralized platform like MelonPort that's safe, transparent, faster and cheaper, it's GAME OVER for Iconomi.

We'll see what happens with Melonport, but their project is much more ambitious and will take a lot longer to go live. I would say close to one year or more. Plus their tokens don't really give you dividends, they are not actually shares in the company like Iconomi, just tokens to use the platform, so yes, in a way there are fees and won't be free. I don't know much about TaaS but just pegging their token to $1 from the start is ridiculous really. I think many of these ICO that don't have anything remotely close to a MVP (Iconomi was one of them, a good one though) need to stop. Well, people need to stop throwing money at them, an idea or a roadmap can't be worth more than 10 millions of dollars unless is that good.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE! on: February 06, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
Still waiting for some sort of solution for Mac users or even Android users for that matter. No proper wallet in place after months and millions of dollars. I just recently synced Byteball BTC address, if you don't know what that is, that's only one guy, giving it all away for BTC holders. Not only the wallets work perfect in all platforms and systems but they have a chat bot which makes it a breeze. Plus the technology used actually brings something different to the table similar to IOTA project.

This guy didn't need an ICO or even a team to deliver all this, it makes you wonder why so many BTC maximalists keep saying ICOs are all scams. I don't agree with that at all since there are plenty of good examples of projects using their funds to create a working product. Antshares is most definitely not a scam but so far the work done compared to the money invested has been completely unacceptable.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 06, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Did anyone yet see coin market cap. See the third position.
Digibyte comes on third position.

In 24 hours it showed a growth of 22485500.00 %.  Shocked

He he, now see the daily volume, its less than $300.
Don't worry, it's just another yobit scamcoin...


I don't know what that is but it's not Digibyte, it's Digicube. I trust coincap.com more than coinmarketcap.com though, every once in a while these sort of things happen and you are left wondering wtf is wrong with crypto, it definitely feels like a joke sometimes or at least something not that serious. As kalpit said though, the evidence is in the volume, it doesn't matter how much a coin gains...if you don't have liquidity or volume it's not real.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 06, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
Finally GSW lost . So much drama in regular time and over time , kerr was ejected in the third quarter when GSW was trailing but then they erupted and took the lead but again in 4th quarter they failed to score in the first 4 minutes . In OT too they had a fine chance of winning but they didn't make it .
Yeah my predictions are right I've bet for kings +10 finally the gsw if I just bet on moneyline maybe it's a big amount for me. I thought klay will made his last shot for .7 seconds luckily it missed so my bet for total spreads is also right.
It's unbelievable when a team like Golden State Warriors lose. When you look at their team and then the opposition, you can never imagine they would lose, be it home or away. The only issue GSW have is the center. Players like Cousins can easily dominate green or McGee. If they manage to get a better center then it would be close to impossible to stop them. Green is a defensive player of the year but its hard to defend guys who are huge and have talent like cousins. He is a star and pretty much a lighter Shaq on his day, with better shooting.
Every time the warriors lose a game we always see their weaknesses, if they really need a big man, they would have search for it. What we see is just a lost for one game, and I believe the warriors does not need to win every game to prove they are the best team.

In playoffs time it's different, they have proven already and beat the Cavaliers at home which I believe their only rival when they can make it to the finals.
I believe that every time you lose, there must have been a weakness because of which it happened. This is not the first time the warriors lost this season because of a dominant big man in the opposition. They struggle a lot when Green is not on the floor with their defense. They lost 2 out of 3 when green was absent and struggle with offensive rebound. Having Durant helps coz he's close to 7ft tall. They definitely need a good big man coz McGee is generally not first team worth and should be just used for bench.

I would be more concerned about Green's behavior than any team weakness in terms of actual basketball. This is the second time Green bullies Durant during a game and it's very obvious, embarrassing him, close to humiliation. I've read an article about Green antics and how the whole Warriors organization try to handle it, the players tolerate him because he's a leader but from what I read he's ruthless and hard to manage. He is especially hard on Klay Thompson, so go figure!

I think this could be the real weak link if they can't get it together since that's the core of the team. If they are on different pages and have different ideas (even Kerr has a hard time managing Green temperament) then the Warriors are in trouble no matter how much talent they have.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: February 06, 2017, 03:07:48 PM
Factom coming to Jaxx now.. exciting times.

https://twitter.com/diiorioanthony/status/828431469894836224

Jaxx is very slow wallet I don't use it and don't understand why people so like it?
Regarding the news and activity in Factom project I will summarize this way: it is better to don't have any news than to noise fake news with stupid marketing strategy. In other words - you should talk only when you want to announce some important things and keep your mouth closed when you have nothing substantial to add. If no, it is only hype foolish and misleading marketing.

I don't like Jaxx wallet very much, it seems all over the place and they keep adding or removing features as if they don't know what their goal is. Exodus on the other hand is amazing, beatiful, easy to use and they are constantly adding new features, slowly but surely. In their last version you can now hide assets you don't have or care about. I can't wait to see Factom listed there. The integration with Shapeshift is great, I doubt I'll ever use it due to the spreads and fees but the option to quickly change your assets right from your secured wallet without messing with exchanges it's great.

We don't know what the future holds but sometimes there's no time to send to a exchange, wait and then create orders to sell, so maybe Shapeshift integration will come in handy. It's definitely the closest thing to an usable decentralized exchange if you think about it.
759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 03, 2017, 04:36:05 PM
Carmelo rumors about going to the Cavs don't seem to be stopping anytime soon. Some serious talks must be underway and I'm beginning to think the Cavs could pull that off, trading for Carmelo and O'Quinn for example would be very welcome, the issue is what the Cavs give up for them. I think they can definitely send Andersen (waived), McRae and Felder (these guys have some potential). In my opinion if the Cavs get Melo, I'm sorry to say but Frye won't be really needed anymore even if he's a great locker room guy. They will also need to shop for a backup PG, but I think they will sign either Chalmers or Farmar in that case.
760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: February 03, 2017, 04:31:41 PM
I personally like to bet on sports but once in a while, just to make the game attractive or interesting. In terms of regular games, I prefer blackjack, roulette and poker. I'm very exciting about prediction markets lately and how they can actually become a more useful type of gambling in a way, kinda like taking calculated risks, more similar to trading but with so many common elements with gambling still.

I think that would be a great evolution in a way, since anyone could use their expertise, skills and knowledge (whatever the field is).
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