I understand that the first batch of Jupiters had to make over 70 coins to break even in BTC and that was going to be tough... but how can you look at a Neptune and say that it will produce less than 10 coins. My two jupiters today still create 1 coin a day (combined). The risk is very different than it was with purchasing Jupiters when BTC was at $100.
unless you've got 2 November Jupiters pushing 700GH/s each I find it had to believe you can mine 1 BTC a day. please explain how you're doing this if it's true. or is it a mistake and you're calculations are incorrect. I have less than 200gh pointed to slush right now, and I'm making .25btc/day. I have no doubt he's making 1btc/day. I've just checked slush pool luck:  so for the last week we had 103%, so you should have slightly more btc than whatsoever profit calculator will tell you, 3% more on avg to precise. So in the last week a 200GH/s machine should have minted 0.1422 * 1.03 = 0.1464 BTC a day. |
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Right. So OP's comment, while technically correct, was completely misleading. His pool had a lucky string of days. He will not make that day in/day out. It certainly seems like some of you say intentionally misleading/inflammatory shit, in the hopes someone will call you out on it. Then we get to have a multi-page, retarded debate on semantics.  Well for me, I'm just sharing how things have been going.. never intended to imply it will remain that way. Unless of course, myself or whomever, adds hashing power at every difficulty hop. In fairness to vesperwillow, my November Jupiter, hashing at 660GHs had been averaging 0.5 BTC a day since it arrived last week. The last 24 hours have been a bit slower as there have been some longer running blocks, but it's still been about 0.38 on Slush's pool. # Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward 21050 2013-12-04 20:56:58 5:54:12 2136256505 3216780 0.03562181 21049 2013-12-04 15:02:46 1:52:39 660059896 1050300 0.03475407 21048 2013-12-04 13:10:07 1:29:54 536861068 812160 0.03830325 21047 2013-12-04 11:40:13 2:15:47 802450507 1287360 0.03828439 21046 2013-12-04 09:24:26 1:40:52 594906424 912600 0.04082403 21045 2013-12-04 07:43:34 2:11:11 773472128 1223640 0.04210782 21044 2013-12-04 05:32:23 4:27:56 1581873847 2415420 0.03565230 21043 2013-12-04 01:04:27 1:28:09 519766669 804600 0.03768075 21042 2013-12-03 23:36:18 3:10:12 1121630102 1794960 0.04282651 21041 2013-12-03 20:26:06 1:26:57 506502935 803520 0.04032198 I think we were talking about October batch. |
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I understand that the first batch of Jupiters had to make over 70 coins to break even in BTC and that was going to be tough... but how can you look at a Neptune and say that it will produce less than 10 coins. My two jupiters today still create 1 coin a day (combined). The risk is very different than it was with purchasing Jupiters when BTC was at $100.
unless you've got 2 November Jupiters pushing 700GH/s each I find it had to believe you can mine 1 BTC a day. please explain how you're doing this if it's true. or is it a mistake and you're calculations are incorrect. I have less than 200gh pointed to slush right now, and I'm making .25btc/day. I have no doubt he's making 1btc/day. All the profit calcs that i've tried tell me that at current diff 200gh will produce 0.1422 btc a day |
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Twitter update
@HashFast: GN chip bringup - connected to cgminer, working through some timeout problems...
Wonder if conman or kano are working on this with them. I guess we wont know since they are probably NDA'ed if they are. I never sign an NDA. I'm not involved with this chip bring up, but hopefully should see one of their first completed pieces of hardware when it's done. stop fucking around here. Go fix cgminer to include knc per-chip stats. So here (HashFast) we have a company that cgminer is involved with to develop a driver. KnC, on the other hand, is a bunch of cunts that asked for our help and then told us to fuck off. Then some time after they had their 500GH/s miner working ... lulz that didn't even do 500GH/s in the video ... they sent ckolivas the cheapest miner they have. Really they sent him only a mercury? I for sure would had gave him a Jupiter and if I were in his shoes I wouldn't had accepted nothing less than a saturn. |
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I am not sure what KnC did or didn't do that caused you to be so negative about them. Hm? I'm not that negative, as far as I can tell a lot of people are perfectly happy with them. When I communicated with them they couldn't keep a consistent story and it made we wary, but I'm glad other people are happy with them. I'm personally not all that happy with any of the major hardware companies right now, I'm concerned that their business practices have not been doing the ecosystem well, but thats neither here nor there and KNC is certainly not the worst of it. versus 1W/Gh for KnC (Oct Batch pre-0.98 firmware) Go update the mining hardware comparison as it's claiming 2.5w/Gh, if thats wrong then I retract my whining. data just taken from a running October Jupiter running latest firmware hashing 562.86 Gh/s at the pool:  that means more or less 530 watts for the 4 asic boards. Add to that a few more for the BBB and the controller board and we could get something like 560-70 at the wall. so roughly we have ~ 1w/GHs |
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I think there's no turbo mode that need to be enabled. It's simply a misunderstanding IMHO. The turbo mode is enabled by default and give you 100GH/s more hash power respect to what achieved with an October Jup, and It's due to the new PCB design. Ah I forgot you can't disable it :-P |
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Use putty?
putty is a ssh client. so yes on a windows system you could use putty to log in into the miner. |
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you cant get turbo mode
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Oh and would anyone else care to share why not only has the price of the Neptune gone up but the SHIPPING has too? Christ mate. Talk about gouging both new and existing.
What's the alternative?Buy the same amount in BTC, and hold it, and/or trade with it. I made 30% BTC inrease over the past few days via trading. Example...If you spend 18btc on a neptune, and let's say in a perfect world it turns out a total of 25, you've made 39%. And that's 3-6 months after my recent 30% increase. Likely, I will make more increases over time. So yeah, the alternative is to do what I did, and be making profit.. today. I have no doubt the Neptune will be stupid powerful.. like connect it to a 3 phase outlet and it'll chug along at 6TH or something.. but with a sharp eye, you could take the same investment and do similar--if not better. The Neptune is just a lot easier.. plug it in and let it chug. Or, you could end up like my brother in law who went from 18 BTC to 3 BTC by day trading. There are winners and losers in day trading, and a great deal of luck is involved. People always seem to talk about their day trading gains but often fail to mention their losses. This is what I'm going to do: emulate the money flow that I would have had in case I had bought a neptune from the first batch, i.e. spend the amount of money needed to buy btc instead, store them in cold wallet and leave it there till the neptune actual release date. If I would have done the same with October Jupiter, as of now, I had had a 65% more btc that I got from minting with my miner. |
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You obviously know nothing about KNC. The miners were assembled in Sweden.
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. They assembled it. Screwed the board down to the box and fastened the heat sinks. Super skilled labor. And time consuming. ASIC and PCB design made by OrSoC (a sweden company) ASICs production outsourced to TSMC PCBs production/assembly made in Sweden see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittJ5PQe6IU |
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Hi all,
The october batch of Jupiters have problems with some Corsair PSU.
Anyone knows if this is also valid for the november batch?
Thank you.
Bad information. I've been running my October Saturn/Jupiter with a Corsair RM850 since I got it. It pulls 650/660 from the wall. I did order a more powerful supply in case I added more hardware but I think I may return it since the Corsair is running just fine the way it is. Maybe there are some people that just had issues with their Corsair so I don't think saying ALL Corsair's have issues, just certain cases. All the drama was about corsair HX 850. |
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In case anyone hasnt seen this tiny little addition to kncminers irchan...
[https://www.kncminer.com/ | Current firmware 0.99 <https://www.kncminer.com/pages/firmware> | November shipment in full production | Don't ask to ask, just ask and wait]
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It's been there for quite a while. At least for a week. |
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https://www.kncminer.com/pages/paymentIn the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market. Rather than to only cater for people who have managed to trade or mine the appropriate amount of coins already.
Why did they stop accepting PayPal/CC? Having a payment method with some consumer protection was nice while it lasted. dunno. speaking of paypal, this is still present in their payment section: In the end we have decided to open up to allow PayPal payments as well. The main reason for this was to allow people to enter the market.
On the CC side the only thing I can say is I can't understand why they changed their mind so quickly. Back in September they said "we are the first Bitcoin mining manufacturer to offer secure payments directly by credit card", and more to the point we all know about Orama's endorsement of secured payment. It was stickyed in the main page of "Custom Hardware" board for quite a while. Another thing that I've found strange was the trick that you had to play if you wanted to chose bank transfer as payment method for the first neptune batch. |
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i really wish KNC would answer their phones once in a awhile....
I don't think CS dept works on saturday. naw i mean all last week. sorry then  |
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Just look at the specs, you don't need "word on the forum".
Of course, there's the fact that KnC has shown they can ship, while CoinTerra hasn't yet.
Are you aware of the last product KnC launched (neptune: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-69)? |
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i really wish KNC would answer their phones once in a awhile....
I don't think CS dept works on saturday. |
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Any idea of price per GH/s?
I am trying to decide to wait for you, or order through KnC.
Word of the forum is these miners kick KnC in the ass citation needed. |
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I'm order Naptune on 28th.
But, it's automatically cancelled.
Why this?
which payment method? if bank wire this quote from https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-71 could be relevant All bank transfers that were initiated before 11:00am CET this morning will be honored. If your order has been cancelled and you have already transfered funds it will be marked as paid when the funds reach our accounts. But as of now do not initiate any more transfers.
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