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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fork this! on: September 15, 2011, 02:28:29 PM
You offend my feelings Smiley

Geist is notably more innovative than i0 (not a high standard to live up to, but still) and also the "old" solidcoin (also, more secure than old solidcoin Cheesy )
762  Other / Meta / Re: Should the Community ban people Like DOUCHEBAGEXPRESS, when they fuck everyone? on: September 15, 2011, 02:26:12 PM
Do you think that banning the people you find disagreeable will reduce the number of attacks or increase the speed at which fixes are delivered ?

 
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 15, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)

Why are you using scantime 1?

 ArtForz suggested that since local connection doesn't have LP and some other stuff, s1 Q0 should work out neatly.


 seems to be working out really well.

I'm toying around with other values but it -seems- that 1 is working out better in solo mining.
764  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 02:17:46 PM


The actual fund to my knowledge has not been implemented and there are discussions as to how to best do this.

My quite sincere word of advice is - not by taking away from miners. Srsly.

If the guy is trusted to manage fund "harvested from miners", he can also be trusted to manage a fund he makes with his own electricity (and perhaps some mild coyness with the code)

If the guy can not be trusted to manage a fund he himself premined, why would he treat a fund generated with other people's electricity instead of his own any differently ?

 You can also look at it a different way but they equate to the same thing.... say a miner is getting 49 coins every generated block and an additional coin is created on top of the standard rate to go to the fund, that would not be "stealing from the miner"

The extra coin is still technically generated with the miner's power and GPU lifetime (limited to 12 mnth, I'm told), no?

IMHO that would be a very minor kind of extortion, petty even, but still extortion (or "taxation by a non government entity" if one feels like being extra politically correct  Cheesy )

If the guy needs extra mathemagical monetary units to do stuff, I don't mind that. Not at all. I can relate to that Smiley

I do know for a fact, however, that you do not need to get involved with mathemagical monetary units generated on other people's hardware to achieve that end.
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fork this! on: September 15, 2011, 02:09:38 PM
You forgot to bash Geist :-P
766  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
It's a viable service, the demand for which is only bound to rise.

I can't force people to launder their mathemagical monies (or their "vanilla" money), can I ? So who exactly gets, um, racketed ?

The big mobsters didn't force people to launder their money either, so was it not a racket for them?

Technically, as long as you can't "game" the system to "force" the client into your laundry (which mobsters usually could), no, not a proper racket.


 And you missed answering a couple questions there ;-)  
I edited those in just before you posted.


I really don't care about the answers though, I am just saying be fair, you expect trust in your services and actions, so does RS and contrary to the troll garbage spewed around here he has to date done nothing to warrant a lack of trust.

Like I said, my only objections so far are:

1) taking away a part of coinage that was generated by other people's electricity (and GPUs which don't last forever under mining stress)

2) extremely obnoxious article which I decided to lampoon a bit in my sig.
I too am not a huge fan of the fund, I see the good it can cause and I see the potential for abuse, even with the proposed Constitution/Mission Statement being designed to govern the group that will one day manage and use the fund as intended.

If he premined a ton of coinage for a fund with his own electricity and a bit of tricky code, I would not see much problem.

Taking away stuff others mined   is somewhere in the extortion territory (Or maybe taxes, with the notable difference being that SC2.0 is hardly capable of being a Monarchy unto itself)
767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 01:45:32 PM
Well, all can I say is "cool" and "Can I use your description on Geist frontpage when it goes up, please?" Cheesy
768  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 01:37:10 PM
how is the fund maintained in the long haul, how is it overseen?  

Depends on how large the "buffer" is compared to typical and "maximum" laundering transaction. There is a fairly obvious way to maintain a laundry with a static buffer arrangement, but that assumes that the buffer is pretty damn large (whether my buffer is large enough or tiny is still open to debate, but if it's not large enough then well, my laundry dies due to 4 mil of buffer being to little a sum and a drop in a bucket, with nobody except me noticing Sad )

As to oversight, technology so far simply does not exists to arrange for such system, but do notice that I have no beef with SolidCoin2.0 apparently unsupervised "compensation fund" (the method seems viable in principle, I admitted that much), only with taking away a portion of coins that miners mined with their own goddamn electricity

 And laundering is a bit of a racket by pure definition of what goes on is it not?

It's a viable service, the demand for which is only bound to rise.

I can't force people to launder their mathemagical monies (or their "vanilla" money), can I ? So who exactly gets, um, racketed ?
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 01:31:38 PM

3) Given that the new chain will introduce the concept of coin regeneration (fixed non % based growth), automated would likely be best since lost coins will find their way back into circulation by being replaced with newly mined coins.


Oh, "coin regeneration", that's how you marketing-speak it.

Thanks, I was struggling to convey "7 coins are minted with each Geist block forever, with no upper limit" in three English words or less  Wink
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
Urgently, BTCEx should rewrite old SC chain to give himself a billionteen coins, then claim "compensation", lol Wink
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Ixcoin fork -> I0coin on: September 15, 2011, 01:15:29 PM
Is I0coin still dead?  This is the only coin that is easy to mine, and I have mined quite a bit. 

Geist is easy to mine, too. Or it was untill diff shot through 170+ Wink

Is I0coin still dead?  This is the only coin that is easy to mine, and I have mined quite a bit. 
Zombiecoin never dies completely. Its living dead.
Its trading at 0.00039998 right now at bitparking I0Coin exchange.  Smiley

You do know what is in the Geist genesis block, don't you Smiley ?
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Oky, looking forward to it.
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
Will you publish some, I dunno, reasonably concise description of the new protocol, especially improvements introduced ?
774  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
which part of the mafia style protection 'voluntary' funding did you not understand?
: )))
Wink

I did not understand the part where he is supposed to tunnel a fist over TCP/IP to "convince" me to pay "protection" lol.

Protection racket on the internet seems tricky because fist over TCP/IP was never properly implemented   Cheesy

Also, I am generally not very fond of rackets Sad
775  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
Love your sig Lolcust.  All Bitcoin forks are a scam, I'm sure Satoshi has a lot of BTC but at least it's decentralized unlike all these new cryptocurrencies.  Bitcoin has a lot going for it still, even if it were to collapse it would take a few years imo unless market manipulators are as viscious as most posters here make them out to be.

Personally, I have nothing against Solidcoin (and nothing against the reset except the "protecshun fund" which sounds  as close to a honest to Cthulhu racket as a digital currency can get)

I do have something against that "ready for Bitcoin collapse" article, though.

P.S.:

I also have something against fork-hate Cheesy

Ya know, at least Namecoin is a very useful and innovative fork (I do  hope for  Geist to get as useful as innovative as it can, after all, it has already taught the knowledgeable folks around here some interesting things, and I hope it will go on doing so...that, and fuel my UniLaundry  Wink )
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How are the new solidcoin accounts mached to old accounts? on: September 15, 2011, 12:31:26 PM

It's kinda hard to con thousands of people Eskimo, even though I'm sure you would be so secretly delighted if I was such a scammer, "I told you so guys , total scammer this guy!!!!". You are a ghoul

Oh my... Sad
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ARE YOU MINING GG? on: September 15, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
Hey spacey, I heard Solidcoin2.0 will not have an upper limit on coin amount as well, just cosmetic drop downs in output rate. Is that so ?

Don't know, they are discussing about how reducing the number of coins generated each block after a fix amount of time... If that never goes to 0, you are right, after an infinite amount of time there would exists infinite coins ;-)

As far as I know, you can't "have" infinite coins in  a blockchain with current code (you can have about 130-something billions  however).

Also, if subsidy is allowed to fall below some (very small, for the purpose of this discussion) fraction of a coin, it's functionally as attractive as no coins to the miner even if the miner does see it (unless the price in USD soars absurdly high  Smiley )

So either SC 2.0 will be quasi-inflationary, as Geist (Quasi because you know, growth of amount of money is not equivalent to inflation proper, and, as a matter of fact, throughout history the amount of gold physically available to mankind has only grown and will continue to grow for quite some time, despite apparent presence of a hard theoretical limit to physical gold extraction on a given planet) or it will be quasi-deflationary as Bitcoin (bitcoin, due to theoretically infinite divisibility of a coin, and above considerations as to what inflation "really" is, isn't properly deflationary in the "vanilla" sense)

778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Multi chain block explorer on: September 15, 2011, 12:20:21 PM
It would be nice if you added Geist - I'm very curious if anything other than mining and me helping some folks to get a grasp of how Escrow works is taking place, lol
779  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 15, 2011, 12:19:14 PM
I don't mind the restart that much per se (and the compensation proposal is technically plausible, one has to admit), but taking a % of newly mined stuff into some fund (even assuming it will be used to do useful stuff) rubs me very wrong way (after all, it was the miner's time and electricity, no? )
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 15, 2011, 12:10:11 PM
I too am running cgminer today, to test stuff and see how it goes (-s 1 -Q 0 --no-longpoll ) and it's doing remarkably well on mere 250 mhashes so far (despite the notably raised diff)
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