2 rocketbox and 3 BTCGarden units left. Any orders in the next 20 minutes will be shipped today.
Also, R-Box is back in stock
With the BTCGarden if you don't get it with the RPI does it still come with the SD card and everything else you need to set it up? I have the official stack of Pi here and really don't need more.... -Dave |
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Dev and IXC only add about 0.1% more to your profits and it's another coin you have to send to an exchange and then dump for Bitcoin (assuming you only want BTC). I think the uptime and security affording by this pool and others like Bitminter and Elegius exceed the paltry add on of those coins.
Not counting uptime/security (unlikely to be affected), the real issue is extra load on the servers. As you pointed out, DVC+IXC are virtually worthless. I'm not even sure if they're 0.1% actually. Adding extra coins to each pool server means each server will be wasting time accessing the SSDs/RAM for those coins, a few CPU cycles, and some bandwidth every time they get a block. That will at least minimally impact bitcoind performance. How much? I can't say, and nobody else really can either. But it is a non-0 impact, and for how worthless they are, I'm not willing to risk ANY performance for junk coins on BTC Guild. I'm asking this because I don't know / understand not to be a pain: Could they were on a physically separate server? With some of the databases I deal with 90%+ of the work is done on the main box 10% is done on other ones. The 10% does not "matter" it's what we term "live irrelevant data". It's for the programmers to use live data / connections to test work, if it all goes boom or lags behind no big deal the main database servers don't even know about it. The front end application servers here (I'm assuming the stratum servers for you) know about it and talk to it at the lowest priority, but if the test back end fails no big deal. I don't know enough about the stratum protocol to know if that's even possible. And no, I don't think it's worth the time to mine the other coins, but I do want to understand more. -Dave |
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Hi,
you used to have merged mining namecoin enabled quite some time ago. I recently logged in to your pool again (after not mining for a year or so) to see that not only merged mining is gone, but also the NMC that I never bothered to pay out are not mentioned anywhere.
What happened to them? It was not much at the time, if I remember correctly their worth was roughly 1% of the BTC I mined at your pool, which would still make it a nice amount nowadays.
Thanks
If you look back in this thread Inaba stopped the mining of NMC Jan 2013. At that time you could request your balance to be sent to you manually. I can't speak for the other forums but I don't think he checks in here more then once every few days. With the above being said, why would you leave a balance sitting out there for 18 months? Heck, I don't like leaving any coins out there for 18 hours before I get it in my wallet. -Dave |
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):
To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:
DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2
(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)
M
Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c Thanks! I almost have 0.1 BTC worth!  M A few more 0dd3b50ead7d2284928fa2f1caad29488b581d9f7208b1bf05006a5c8bb2d171 BTW where are you selling these? I did not know there was even a market till I saw you were collecting them. -Dave |
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):
To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:
DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2
(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)
M
Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c -Dave |
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whew...I'm stuffed on popcorn...this is getting good  Go for the Snow Caps next! Blasphemy...1st popcorn, then gummy bears, finally snow caps. Wait....were we dealing with something important in this thread? Oh, yeah that was it....Coke or Pepsi? -Dave |
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It's not a "they" is a "me". But feel free to tell the world I'm so amazing I got 20% of network  -Dave |
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Correct. Check the difficulties on those coins, you'll see they are WAY up there, close to bitcoin. While it's possible you'll find a block on them, it's highly unlikely, just like it's highly unlikely you'll find a bitcoin block.
That's why I promote sharing of merged mining findings with p2pool. If everyone did it, it'd make it more like conventional pools.
M
Which is why in my paranoid mind I think that there are people merge mining and not telling. Outside of GHash I don't know of a large pool that is telling people that they are mining DVC / IXC but their difficulty is way above where it should be IMHO if the only big pool mining was them. Yes I know MM and a few other pools are mining but not enough to put the difficulty that high. Once again, using some rough numbers that I put together. -Dave I think you are correct. M Do you have the math skills to run the numbers for approx hash power for the difficulty? I tried and did not like the answer I got. -Dave |
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Correct. Check the difficulties on those coins, you'll see they are WAY up there, close to bitcoin. While it's possible you'll find a block on them, it's highly unlikely, just like it's highly unlikely you'll find a bitcoin block.
That's why I promote sharing of merged mining findings with p2pool. If everyone did it, it'd make it more like conventional pools.
M
Which is why in my paranoid mind I think that there are people merge mining and not telling. Outside of GHash I don't know of a large pool that is telling people that they are mining DVC / IXC but their difficulty is way above where it should be IMHO if the only big pool mining was them. Yes I know MM and a few other pools are mining but not enough to put the difficulty that high. Once again, using some rough numbers that I put together. -Dave |
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Thanks Dave
Merged mining slows down anything on BTC side?
Which cons are must for merged mining when running BTC node?
Also eligius says and i can see from payouts that my daily payout is 0.12213 BTC per day.
Your approximate maximum potential earnings at the current network difficulty of 11,756,551,916.90 and maintaining your 3-hour average hash rate of 2,855.07 Gh/s is 0.12213214 BTC per day.
P2Pool says that my payout if a block is found is about 0.11 BTC.
So far 3 days I would have gotten payouts with Eligius of 0.36 BTC.
But with P2Pool I have 0. You saying that something within the week I should get about 4 blocks to compensate statistically for the loss?
Or as long as there is no payout from P2Pool the payout amount is increasing?
Merged mining slows down anything on BTC side? Not if the server has enough RAM / CPU speed / Drive Speed. At the smaller node level it's not a lot of extra power, as you get to the larger levels it can jump quickly. Once again simple numbers 1TH = X amount of computing power, 10TH = 2 times X computing power, 50TH = 5 times X computing power, 100TH = 70 times X computing power. Somewhere along the line you have to go to separate stratum server, and DB server, wallet server, etc. Once again, these are made up numbers to illustrate the point. Which cons are must for merged mining when running BTC node? If you mean which coins then: It's an opinion question. Some people think that anything but NMC is a waste, others think mine everything if you have the computing power after all money is money. If you mean what are the cons, then the more processes running on your server makes for more things to screw up, which could put you off line and not mining till you fix it... But with P2Pool I have 0. You saying that something within the week I should get about 4 blocks to compensate statistically for the loss? In *theory* yes. In reality luck can be good or bad for weeks / months at a time. And with the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks or so a long dry spell might take a while to catch up. P2Pool should be finding a block about once a day using my back of the napkin numbers at 550 TH. From 10:45 AM on June 3rd to 7:30 AM on the 5th the pool found 5 blocks, with 3 of them being on the 4th. And none since the 5th. Luck can be like that. Or as long as there is no payout from P2Pool the payout amount is increasing? Nope, what you get paid per block is what you get paid per block, there is no "bank" -Dave |
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Using simple numbers
2 Pools
1 has 1 miner with 10 TH
1 has 10 miners with 10 TH each for a total of 100 TH
The faster pool will find 10x as many blocks as the slower one. BUT when the slower one finds a block that 1 miner gets the full amount with the faster pool each miner gets 1/10 of the amount. In the end you do wind up with the same amount.
And yes, the old work gets chucked in the trash.
-Dave
Thanks Dave, so if I understand correctly it doesn't really matter where you mine. Based on chances you will anyway get the same amount of BTC any pool you mine (maybe with a 10% luck difference) if you mine for a year. So what about solo mining then? I have 2.8TH/s so my chance is that I find a block in 208 days. Even if I do find it in 1 year it is much more than mining in a pool. So that's question #1. Which bring me to question #2: So for 3 days no blocks have been found with p2pool. If I stop mining today in p2pool I will get payment for 1 block only? Or will I get payment from next blocks as well even though I'm not in to compensate for the "loss" ? This is a vast oversimplification of it but you get paid on shares of work submitted. These are rolling shares that are good for a period of time. So using the simple numbers that I like. If you submit 10 shares an hour over 10 hours you will have 100 shares. If the rolling period of time is 10 hours and you keep up the 10 per hour you will always have 100 shares in the pool. So if a block if found at 1:00 and then again at 1:01 and another at 1:02 you will have 100 shares in each block. And get paid accordingly. Now, if you stop mining at 2:00 then by 3:00 you will only have 90 shares by 4:00 you will have 80. If a block is then found at 4:00 you will get paid on 70 shares. If a block is found at 11:59 you get nothing. Now along that same note if we are in a dry spell like now and with my simple numbers your shares fall off after 10 hours then whatever you did 11 hours ago does not matter. Let me state again, this is an oversimplification but should give you a good idea of how it works. Now as to the which pool you use, for the most part in the long run yes they all will give you about the same payout. However, there are other factors. Some pools charge a fee some don't, some are closer to you and will give you slightly fewer stales shares then others, some will merge mine coins and give them to you. Some will merge mine coins and pocket them, never tell you making them money. Some pool operators are friendly and help out others are egotistical a--holes who think they know better then everyone and you just want to slap them upside the head. Also, when mining at a pool that is not p2pool node you have to trust the operators not to run off with your BTC, with P2 they can't. Although they still can merge mine and not tell you about it. -Dave |
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I installed p2pool 2 days ago and still no payment.
I see the past two days no block has been found.
I assume today or tomorrow 1 or 2 blocks will be found and get payouts.
Which brings me to the next question.
How many blocks is p2pool is trying to discover at the same time?
No blocks found for 2 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes and 54 seconds as of me writing this. Expected time to block is 23 hours, 19 minutes, 42 seconds. It's variance. On 6/3, p2pool found 4 blocks in 24 hours. Pretty sure the answer to how many blocks at the same time is exactly like the answer for every other pool: the latest one. Thanks for your answer. Just to clarify how mining works among competitive pools. So if P2Pool has 500 TH/s and Eligius has 6500 TH/s how can any "smaller" pool (e.g. P2Pool) be competitive? Eligius in this example has more chances to to find the block as it has more TH/s. What happens to the work that the P2Pool has done on this block as well as the work done from other pools? Just goes to trash? Just trying to figure out with simple words/example how pool mining works... Using simple numbers 2 Pools 1 has 1 miner with 10 TH 1 has 10 miners with 10 TH each for a total of 100 TH The faster pool will find 10x as many blocks as the slower one. BUT when the slower one finds a block that 1 miner gets the full amount with the faster pool each miner gets 1/10 of the amount. In the end you do wind up with the same amount. And yes, the old work gets chucked in the trash. -Dave |
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As far as I can tell US1 is not a real stratum, it's just a proxy.
And I think that's why there are issues with it. Plus on http://www.liveipmap.com/home it comes up as the Netherlands. I doubt they really have any US servers at all. Just misrepresentation. Running a traceroute from my laptop on a Verizon circuit to 46.229.169.89 (us1.) the next to last hop is a cogent router in the US as far as I can tell (38.122.62.114). You don't have to have IP space from RIPE in their region. I have some clients with LANIC IP space in my data center in NY. -Dave |
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If some of you have some spare hash power could you point some to a small node I just setup for testing. (0% fee) http://75.127.136.68:9332PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have a failover set as I am still working and learning and I don't want to cost you any BTC. I want to do more with it over the next few weeks but for now I just want to make sure what I did so far works. Thanks, Dave |
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am I the only 1 mining this?!?
There aren't too many people doing it, that's for sure. But I appreciate the effort, keep on going. In the new version (to be announced on Monday) the proof-of-work era will end at block 22068, about a week from now. That's an strange number, what not 22000 or 22500? -Dave |
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for some reason, the shipping to me costs +40$ when I buy it on ebay. I'll keep looking, otherwise cannachris I'll take up on your offer Where are you located? -Dave |
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