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81  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 27, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/160ghash-mining-solution.html

"912 Ghash Bitfury Mining solution"

"$1250"

"Availability: In Stock"

"USED, Non-refundable"

And at ~50W per board you're looking at nearly 1200W for just over 900GH.
82  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 27, 2014, 04:39:15 AM
I got curious as to how close you can pack these together so I got out my Fluke and took some measurements. The ambient air temp of the intake on the first miner was 80o. The measurements below are from between each of the miners in F.

2.5" Gap
1) 89.7o
2) 99.1o
3) 105.2o

1.75" Gap
1) 90o
2) 102o
3) 109.5o

1.25" Gap, I only measured between the 3rd and 4th miners @ 111o. For now this is how I'll run them.

83  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 26, 2014, 02:11:07 PM
So does anyone know when compensation units will be shipped?
84  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 26, 2014, 03:06:59 AM
Well, well, well. A big box from Miner Hosting LLC arrived at my doorstep today. I didn't know I was receiving a package.... To refuse delivery or just accept that I lost a bunch of money on this, that is the question.

And I paid Dec 25 2013 for those of you who are curious as to shipping order from Minersource. I should also mention I threw a big stink and bugged them about my refund status nearly every day for the last couple weeks.

Big box? Did you order an X3?

Four X1's
85  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 25, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
Well, well, well. A big box from Miner Hosting LLC arrived at my doorstep today. I didn't know I was receiving a package.... To refuse delivery or just accept that I lost a bunch of money on this, that is the question.

And I paid Dec 25 2013 for those of you who are curious as to shipping order from Minersource. I should also mention I threw a big stink and bugged them about my refund status nearly every day for the last couple weeks.
86  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: August 24, 2014, 05:20:56 AM
I went to use my 3 unused coupons today from the Bitmain Hash speed issue and found out that they expired.

What a crock of crap.

If they dont give me my coupons back or the equal bitcoin I will not purchase their products anymore.

Has anyone else had this happen???

  Someone already said it expired last week so I think.

That's BS. Had I realized they were going to expire before I could mine more coin to purchase more I would have opted for the refund in BTC. Bitmain better make this right or I will also go to a competitor. Customer service and delivery times are what set the hardware manufacturers apart.
87  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 22, 2014, 11:31:57 PM
Hello guyz,

Can someone tell me what is BA's address, is their office is located in HK and facilities in Shenzhen?

TIA

There's some info in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711559.msg8037756#msg8037756
88  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 22, 2014, 02:03:44 PM
If BA takes preorders on this scrypt asic of theirs, this will officially become a Ponzi scheme.
89  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 21, 2014, 05:25:33 PM
If you have proof that you requested your refund prior to them shipping it to you then I would refuse delivery. There are laws in the US that protect consumers from receiving unwanted merchandise. If everyone who requested a refund refuses delivery they will have to do something about it and they won't be able to sweep it under the rug.

And on top of that, MS is going to be paying all those extra shipping costs to return them. They're really shooting themselves in the foot here by not communicating.
90  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 21, 2014, 05:08:10 PM

They are bleeding for money!  They will be gone soon.  So many useless parts since they can't build a miner that they are hawking them onto everyone else.  Don't buy that shit!  Even if it is a little more expensive, go with their competitors.  Help put a nail in BA's coffin and stick in the ground where they deserve to go.

Hard to get rid of parts when you can't build a working miner I suppose.

They have plenty of money, they're just running out of money that they don't want to steal. I have never to this day heard a single report of a customer having paid BA directly in bitcoins having seen their payment ever leave the payment address supplied by BA.

Thats true, you are very right.  Although given their high IQ level, I would wager a guess that they lost their private key and can't access those coins anymore.  Smiley

That would be the funniest thing ever.
91  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 21, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
I think this graphic sums it up quite well.

92  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 20, 2014, 02:07:59 PM
Is it possible this is just another Zifkin operation? I mean for all we know this Sovu guy is just a fugitive with his name on a holding company obviously designed for criminal purposes. We have evidence that someone did some press last fall to promote this scheme under the criminal alias "Alex Berk", which frankly is such a ridiculous load of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego bullshit it's almost comedy. All we're actually hearing from are three fake and/or anonymous entities that we know nothing about. They're EXACTLY following the Zifkin plan leaked by PG to a T.

The only question that's really up in the air at this point is whether Matt Carson and this "Stuart" guy from the UK are in on the con game, or whether they're just useful idiots getting played. The take on this scam is probably good enough that it's worth running their reputations to the ground, not that Matt Carson wasn't already a known scammer to begin with.

Matt could easily be in on it, hand-picked from Sovu, saving the I-had-no-idea trump card for the very end, walking away a bandit for his efforts for garnering the bigger bandit, Sovu, the bigger payday.

Don't forget, there's two other resellers (UK & Aussie), plus that dude down in Florida that owns a scooter shop, and Alex Sovu loves scooters.

Joshua Zipkin has been to BA's facility and is supposedly be in like flint with them. Notice how these scammers stick together.

His only problem with that defense is we all know that he went to the BA factory and saw everything. He would have to prove without a shadow of a doubt that BA did in fact have the manufacturing capabilities they claimed to have. It's not going to hold up for him in the end and once that flaw in his story is exposed then it's all over for Minersource. Matt, you should have stayed at home and got pissed like the rest of us.

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93  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 19, 2014, 09:10:14 PM
I'm getting sick of waiting around. I encourage everyone who has asked for a refund from Minersource and have been refused to fill out the form below.

https://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/consumerfraudcomplaint
94  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 18, 2014, 03:16:45 PM
Seeing as they haven't bothered picking up the pace of production I can only assume they plan on closing up shop after this. They technically have a functioning miner so one would think that they would be trying to pump these things out as fast as they possibly can so they can start selling further batches. Then again, the BA engineers aren't known for their intelligence so maybe it's just another day at the office for them.
95  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 18, 2014, 02:30:40 PM
I messaged Minersource again, asking for an update on the LCD and compensation and to ask for a partial refund due to the lie I was told about my ordered being valued at $100 when it wasn't. So far it seems they dont give a shit and ignoring my emails.

So if anyone is considering buying from minersource, just stop, because as soon as you have an issue. They will ignore you!
You honestly need to file a claim with the FTC to get their attention. Once you have their attention, they can be reasonable people from my experience.

ftccomplaintassistant.gov

Thanks, I've gotten nothing but F you from MS at this point. However, I had to use this link to get to the site.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1
96  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 15, 2014, 09:28:22 PM

And they're going to get a fraction of what they paid for it.
97  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 15, 2014, 04:58:14 AM
Hey Captain where are the miners you agreed to ship me 5 1/2 months ago?

I've lost over $12k in revenue and the miners are fucking bricks now you worthless pice of human garbage.

Actually when you consider that you paid them for the machine already,.. it's actually not a brick, it's still a money maker for them until they ship it, it's still profitable for them, chugging those last few BTC out before they ship b/c no one will take legal action at this point, everyone has just given up or given in.

That sounds about right. I'm sure their rigorous testing includes several weeks months of hashing on a pool of their choice.
98  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 14, 2014, 09:13:31 PM
They must have found an issue with the miner so they're going to fix the problem before they resume shipping. You know, to save us from receiving a poor excuse for a miner.
99  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 12, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
I think they may have stopped shipping altogether. Anyone get any recently direct from BA?

BA, how about an update on shipping?

They're too busy assembling the 50 miners that will ship this week to give us updates.
100  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: August 12, 2014, 08:51:10 PM
UPDATE: So, Dan Murtha decided to reach out to me in order to fix the situation. He asked me how much store credit I thought was fair and I said $1200 since that's how much I lost in the refund. I also said that I'd be willing to accept two S3s as well. He offered me $1000 credit and I agreed.
I hereby rescind/renounce/repudiate/abjure all the negative things I've said about Minersource and I will be sure to edit all recent posts referencing them to reflect this update.
Thanks Minersource for doing the right thing in the end.

Cool, now will minersource start refunds for other customers who are still waiting?

My refund went from "after B1 & B2 shipping is complete" to basically "You're going to get your miner whether or not you want it" when I asked about it again the other day.

Quote
Thank you for contacting us and for your patience while we worked out the shipping dates with our supplier. We have done our best in a challenging situation to deliver your units as quickly as possible, but understand that you have now decided to refuse to accept delivery. While we appreciate and acknowledge that the wait has been longer than you had hoped, this was a “pre-order” of mining equipment which, according to the terms of purchase posted on our site when you placed your order, is non-refundable if cancelled. Those terms (www.minersource.net/contactus) explicitly notified buyers that delivery dates were not guaranteed, and that buyers should not rely on them as a factor in making the decision to place an order with us. We encourage you to accept delivery of your pre-ordered product because we are not approving refund requests at this time. We recognize that this has caused inconvenience, and have worked with our supplier to add additional compensation units to your order, free of charge. These will be included in a further shipment sent to you. Again, we are sorry that this order took so long to fulfill, and encourage you to contact us with any additional questions.

Thomas Salvatore
Head of Logistics
support@minersource.net
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