update : 1. We have lost contact with Friedcat more than 40 days, we are now still focusing on finding him. 2. A lot of evidences we have found shows that he is safe, which is the only good news recently. In addition, all rumour around the community are baseless and untrustworthy. We know so far nothing about where has he been and where is he at the moment. 3. We have to focus on finding him currently so there are indeed some delay on replying email of sale@bitquan.com. However, since we have all records of your emails so it is only a problem of time, please understand and be patient. 4. AMHASH project is not from sale team of ASICMINER, we know nothing about the deal between Friedcat and ROCKMINER, no one else has seen the contract between them either ,therefore, we sale department of ASICMINER is not be in charge of AMHASH project, please be patient to wait till we find FC. |
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I'm one of the early investor. Amount Invested(4 months ago): 0.07 BTCTotal Amount Paid( AS OF 3rd March 2015): 0.03621702BTCThe last payment I received from them was on 26th January 2015. Have not received any payment from them since then...since the minimum amount of withdrawal is very high as fuck.  Here's some quotes posted by other investors in the cloudmining.websites forum: Re: mining profits
Postby tt_1111 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:06 am
Yep, comparable results for me, always below 100 Satoshi / GH/sec / day.
It will take another several weeks to reach payout limit at this rate. And no, I won't reinvest here. Re: cant get my first payout
Postby alltips » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:56 am
Why my Latest Payout of 0.00001559 BTC its 10 times smaller then usual?!? Another SCAM?!? |
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Also i might add, for all those weaklings sustaining the wishful thinking that this Chinese scammers known as AMHASH are going to honor their compromise, i challenge you to a test:
Go to your wife, girlfriend, mother or whatever female close to you and explain that you put some money into an investment company and that after 3 weeks of waiting, they give you nothing, they have changed the story 3 times and that know they say that someone that goes by the name of Fried Cat is the one responsible and even believed to be kidnapped or dead, and that when that guy returns they will give you your money back. You gave your money to them, but now they say the cat took it. And you believe them.
Also tell them that you honestly believe that the guy named Fried Cat will return, maybe even raising from the grave or even escaping their captors with the sole purpose of honoring his compromises to you, and when they ask you if you know him personally, tell them that you don't.
Tell them that and see what they have to say to you...
Your mother will tell you that you were always the most weak and gullible.
Your girlfriend will smirk at you and hang the phone.
Your wife will tell you to be a man and will secretly start looking for a real one anywhere else.
And in every case they will tell you to stand your ground, fight for what is yours and that only pussies get stolen and do nothing about it.
Do that test and then come back here and keep defending the indefensible.
While you're at it, tell them that a person called AirWolf told you to ask. |
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Also i might add, for all those weaklings sustaining the wishful thinking that this Chinese scammers known as AMHASH are going to honor their compromise, i challenge you to a test:
Go to your wife, girlfriend, mother or whatever female close to you and explain that you put some money into an investment company and that after 3 weeks of waiting, they give you nothing, they have changed the story 3 times and that know they say that someone that goes by the name of Fried Cat is the one responsible and even believed to be kidnapped or dead, and that when that guy returns they will give you your money back. You gave your money to them, but now they say the cat took it. And you believe them.
Also tell them that you honestly believe that the guy named Fried Cat will return, maybe even raising from the grave or even escaping their captors with the sole purpose of honoring his compromises to you, and when they ask you if you know him personally, tell them that you don't.
Tell them that and see what they have to say to you...
Your mother will tell you that you were always the most weak and gullible.
Your girlfriend will smirk at you and hang the phone.
Your wife will tell you to be a man and will secretly start looking for a real one anywhere else.
And in every case they will tell you to stand your ground, fight for what is yours and that only pussies get stolen and do nothing about it.
Do that test and then come back here and keep defending the indefensible.
While you're at it, tell them that a person called AirWolf told you to ask. |
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Also i might add, for all those weaklings sustaining the wishful thinking that this Chinese scammers known as AMHASH are going to honor their compromise, i challenge you to a test:
Go to your wife, girlfriend, mother or whatever female close to you and explain that you put some money into an investment company and that after 3 weeks of waiting, they give you nothing, they have changed the story 3 times and that know they say that someone that goes by the name of Fried Cat is the one responsible and even believed to be kidnapped or dead, and that when that guy returns they will give you your money back. You gave your money to them, but now they say the cat took it. And you believe them.
Also tell them that you honestly believe that the guy named Fried Cat will return, maybe even raising from the grave or even escaping their captors with the sole purpose of honoring his compromises to you, and when they ask you if you know him personally, tell them that you don't.
Tell them that and see what they have to say to you...
Your mother will tell you that you were always the most weak and gullible.
Your girlfriend will smirk at you and hang the phone.
Your wife will tell you to be a man and will secretly start looking for a real one anywhere else.
And in every case they will tell you to stand your ground, fight for what is yours and that only pussies get stolen and do nothing about it.
Do that test and then come back here and keep defending the indefensible.
While you're at it, tell them that a person called AirWolf told you to ask. |
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Also i might add, for all those weaklings sustaining the wishful thinking that this Chinese scammers known as AMHASH are going to honor their compromise, i challenge you to a test:
Go to your wife, girlfriend, mother or whatever female close to you and explain that you put some money into an investment company and that after 3 weeks of waiting, they give you nothing, they have changed the story 3 times and that know they say that someone that goes by the name of Fried Cat is the one responsible and even believed to be kidnapped or dead, and that when that guy returns they will give you your money back. You gave your money to them, but now they say the cat took it. And you believe them.
Also tell them that you honestly believe that the guy named Fried Cat will return, maybe even raising from the grave or even escaping their captors with the sole purpose of honoring his compromises to you, and when they ask you if you know him personally, tell them that you don't.
Tell them that and see what they have to say to you...
Your mother will tell you that you were always the most weak and gullible.
Your girlfriend will smirk at you and hang the phone.
Your wife will tell you to be a man and will secretly start looking for a real one anywhere else.
And in every case they will tell you to stand your ground, fight for what is yours and that only pussies get stolen and do nothing about it.
Do that test and then come back here and keep defending the indefensible.
While you're at it, tell them that a person called AirWolf told you to ask. |
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friedcat's name has been mentioned several times in the various threads (and doesn't match 'Della Lu'). The Block Erupter USB address probably hasn't been checked in well over a year, but I suppose you might as well try - ask if they've got some leftover stock (and towels!) while you're at it. Maybe if something is unconfirmed, you just shouldn't post it.
The address AirWolf listed isn't even the one associated with the sale of 200 BE USB's. The right address is 17ZhvKgk95bEK6rbLf5FPC8eE1xf8HdKe9. |
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AMHash has admitted to running a ponzi lol.
No they haven't. AMHash quite clearly denied running a ponzi: 1. The mining farm happened in Dec/25/2014 was not a PONZI like you said, AM did have hashrates before that day, and they were also hurt by the farm partner.When problem happened, AM were talking and finding some way to solve it and continue to pay divs daily, how can you say that PONZI? Any problem been solved need time, hope you understand.
A ponzi is where you pay old customers with the income from new customers. Like I said earlier, AMHash haven't had any new customers since the 24th of December 2014 and the hash rate disappeared on the 25th of December 2014. How could it possibly be a ponzi? FC might have ran off with the money, he might have been kidnapped, he might be dead for all we know but one thing is certain - AMHash hasn't been running a ponzi. |
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How does the use hashratio fit into this picture, does he/she work for Asicminers or Amhash?
Hashratio would have owned the data centre AM were using to host their miners. Don't take it as a fact though that Hashratio was the partner, it's just a rumour at this point and needs to be confirmed. |
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It is true that I don't know any of that information. But you don't know it either. Before throwing shit why don't you better make an educated guess? I always try to do it and I am not afraid to show it. Please show me your educated guess on AM financials and we will see exactly where you stand behind your words. But I must warn you that I will rub it to your face hard!
SHOW US YOUR EDUCATED GUESS ABOUT AM FINANCIALS or forever shut up!
I'm not claiming that I do know and unlike you, I'm not claiming that my opinions are facts. FACTS: FC claimed to have 60 Ph/s worth of wafers. Income from AMHash sales was at least 4,255.2 BTC. AM bought back Prismas AMHash claimed FC said that more hashing power from new farms would be deployed. Based on the above facts, it is therefore my opinion that AM should have been able to cover the loss. Notice the way I don't claim my opinion is a fact? |
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Producing chips isn't equal to producing miners. Miners cost money to produce. Money which AM doesn't have.
How much capital does AM have? You have no idea. How much money does it cost to produce a Tube? How much does it cost to produce a Prisma? You have no idea. Yet apparently you know for a fact that AM don't have enough money to produce an extra 5 Ph/s worth of miners. Do you not see how such a statement is clearly illogical nonsense? Besides what makes you think AMHash didn't have 5 PH/s already self-mining as FC seemed to claim. They did buy back Prisma's off anyone who wanted to take them up on the offer after all. Do you know how many Prismas were bought back? No you don't. Yet again, apparently you know for a fact that AM couldn't possibly replace 5 Ph/s worth of hashing power based on having no actual knowledge or information. Like I've been saying for months, you seem to have extreme difficulty understanding the difference between a fact and an opinion. |
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How about you provide some references for your facts, shill? How is it you come up with numbers without access to corporate financials?
What is it that makes you think FC put the coin aside for a rainy day? What makes you think he didn't have any outstanding debt to cover with the proceeds of this ...whatever this was?
I never claimed to be stating any facts , I'm simply pointing out that what RoadStress is claiming is just blatantly obvious bullshit which contradicts the evidence. It is a fact that AMHASh claimed to have sold around 3.5 Ph/s of AMHash. It is also a fact that AMHash1 sold for 1.25 mBTC and AMHash2 and AMHash3 sold for 1.2 mBTC. I also said ASICMiner, AMHash, Rockxie and Friedcat should all be punished and that I'd be leaving feedback against them. Then I left feedback against them. Clearly the actions of a shill! Sales? What sales? Selling hashrate on-line is the only option to sell it effectively not sending the hardware overseas due to high taxes and costs. Who would trust now AMhash, Rockminer or asicminer if they cannot control their miners??
I wouldn't trust them and I wouldn't expect anyone else to trust them either. I'd say the only avenue left open for them now is self-mining. |
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So all the money from AMHash went to AM only? Didn't know that.
The $1M which you like to throw around to blind the fools isn't the actual profit. Since you don't know their profit margin the $1M is irrelevant. Please back up your statement that AM has money to deploy 5PH of miners. My estimate is that their profit margin is really low which will leave the actual profit to less than 400k$ which is clearly not enough to deploy 5PH/s. But yes, I like to spread bullshit that I can back up at least with logic, if not with solid proof. What are you doing? Just defending a defunct company with no logic and while all evidences are against you.
I am pointing out the FACTS, not spreading bullshit. What's AM solo hashrate? Where are all those 60Ph/s worth of chips? They are clearly not mining in AM solo mining operation and they are clearly not sold because otherwise AM would bathe in money which clearly isn't happening.
Out of that 4,255.2 BTC, Rockminer would have took a cut as their commission, the rest would have went to AM. Given that the contract holders pay for the actual maintenance of the farm, it's simply logical to claim that AM have money, because they clearly do. To claim that AM has no money is simply ignoring the facts. You claim AM have no money. That is not a fact, nor is it even logical considering I've just shown you that the income from AMHash sales alone was around 1 million USD. Also, please provide a reference for your "facts". |
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Producing chips isn't equal to producing miners. Miners cost money to produce. Money which AM doesn't have. In order to replace the 5PH AM needs to spend money on all the other components that are required for miners. Besides miners a building with the required power cabling is required. That also costs money...
AM have money. 3.546 PH @ 0.0012 BTC/Gh (AMHash1 sold for 0.00125 BTC, but I'll just ignore that) = 4,255.2 BTC = ~1 million USD. What makes you think AM has no money? Do you have a source to back that up or are you just trying to spread bullshit as usual? |
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Ponzi alert for AMHash!
What  Now FriedCat has turned out to be a Ponzi operator ? No, that ignores the facts. Firstly, according to AMHash, FC said he was going to deploy more hashing power to cover the loss (isn't it funny the way people simply ignore that part). Given that AM had 60 Ph/s of BE200 last May, sales had been almost non-existent and AMHash 3 took in around 1 million USD, they should have been able to replace 5 Ph/s. After then, FC told us that hashrates from new mining farms will be deployed, but we didn't know the amount at that time.Right now, we still don't receive any update from those new hashrates.
Secondly, AMHash haven't sold any contracts whatsoever since the 24th December 2014. 1.The AMHash3 shares has been sold out.
Thirdly, at least one address is still receiving payouts from Ghash.io so they're still receiving mining income. |
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So if Friedcat works for Asicminer and Amhash equipment is controlled by Asicminers then surely Asicminers must replace the equipment, if my understanding of this situation is correct?
Amhash team what is been done to replace the equipment "stolen" or with you just be giving up and running with our money?
AMHash already stated that AM said they were deploying a new farm: After then, FC told us that hashrates from new mining farms will be deployed, but we didn't know the amount at that time.Right now, we still don't receive any update from those new hashrates.
Depends who you consider owned the equipment. Without seeing carefully worded contracts, you could probably argue it belonged to AM, Amhash or anyone who bought the contracts.
ASICminer owned and maintained the equipment, Rockminer managed the sales. AM has to be held accountable for the loss in my opinion. |
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Put a lock on the door? If I'm reading this right, the "partner" was actually running the farm.
In any case this is fucked up, not only AM/FC part of it but Rockminer/Amhash too - why drag it out for so long? So they were running as a real ponzi for more than two months now and taking new suckers in (well until havelock keeled over) as if nothing happened. Brilliant.
Not quite. AMHash hasn't sold any contracts since around Christmas and even if they had that still wouldn't be a problem as AM could probably replace 5 PH/s pretty easily. As for this news though, what the fuck is up with Chinese people and their complete lack of the concept of communication? ASICMiner, AMHash, Rockxie and Friedcat deserve to be punished for trying to hide shit like this, especially after people complaining all last year about their utterly pathetic communications and their promises to do better. The only thing I can do is leave negative feedback and I will be doing so despite being an AM shareholder. From the new farm that was said to be deployed? 5 Ph/s isn't that much for a manufacturer, for example, AM produced 60 Ph/s of BE200 last May according to FC. They also had trouble selling that hash power so nobody should really be surprised they could replace it. |
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Either provide proof of legitimacy or just go away.
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Dear Miners,Our engineers sent the pictures that you were asking. BitCloudMine has updated some pictures of its mining farm. If you have any questions you could send email to: support@bitcloudmine.comThanks for your interest. Nice Sundays!
Bitcloudmine Supporthttps://www.bitcloudmine.com/ Here's one of the pictures you posted of "your" farm:  That is quite clearly a picture from Genesis Mining's farm, not yours, as shown in the video below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JfYFIRPZU |
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