All Putin and Progozin did in June is to have a good laugh about what simpletons and chumps you guys are.

For added lulz, they labeled Prigozin a 'wanted insurrectionist' or whatever so that when anyone pitched a bitch about Russia's actions anywhere, Putin could just shrug and say it's a Wagner thing and "We feel your pain."

I should have mentioned Surovikian taking over Wagner when I thought of it yesterday so I could do a victory lap, but I've been tied up with other things.  My read is that Wager would trust him because he is sensitive about getting people killed for no good reason.

As for Prigozion and/or the real leader of Wagner who stays in the shadows, my first guess is that this was a Russian hoax or psych job and one or both are alive and well.  Retire to hang out with Ken Lay, Epstein, etc.

My second guess is that the Russians killed them in order to take over Wagner (which they would have been setting up for a while and would be the reason why Surovikian was put in charge of getting them outfitted.)

My third guess is some Western forces got him.  If so it would probably be the Brits since they are desperate enough to try it and way to weasely to admit it.  Probably not other capable parties.  The Israelies wisely put their bets on Russia from the first day of the SMO onward as best I can tell and are setting up to be friends with the bear when the dust settles.  Or bear trainers.

It's been pointed out, I think accurately, that the economic warfare in the U.S. is mainly between the rich and the ultra-rich.  Anyone who is below millionaire status (aka, a homeowner) is basically inconsequential chattel-slave class.  Neither a threat, nor a real target.

My money is on the ultra-rich.  Many/most of the 'rich' have fallen victim to the same snares set for the chattel-slave plebs (the plandemic de-pop shot, the climate cult baloney, etc.)  Now that I think about it, maybe the 'rich' were in fact the primary targets.  They in particular tend to take the bait hook, line, and sinker.

The dynamics in the 'developing world' country where I live currently are almost identical except one has to divide by a factor.  Say ten.  The 'middle-upper class' tend to be the ones who are _still_ too scared to take off their masks.  The plebs generally didn't even put them on except under duress.  Now one can tell the slaves because they are forced to wear masks in order to keep their jobs and feed their families, or they are a terrified car-owning mid-level bureaucrats who really do believe the bullshit.

Turning the embarrassing 'hockey stick' fraud on it's side doesn't suddenly make it worth any more than it was.  Even full-on high priests in the climate scientism cult would rather forget Michael Mann's hoax since it was so profoundly debunked.  The climategate e-mail leaks didn't do it any favors either.

For those who don't know, Mann came up with a model which produced a 'hockey stick' line even when random data was fed in.  As far as I know he has still not released his algorithms and the data he used.  He's not a practicing scientist after all.  His hoax got the image on the front page of the mainstream fake-news, and he was issued a PhD, so all is good...at least in climate-cult-land where the globalist money lives.

RAND!?!  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  Better check in with Chatham House (and their various properties) to get the 'consensus' you need.

I think it fair to say that real 'conspiracy theorists' generally don't 'want you to believe' anything.  Simply seek the truth using the classical scientific method.

I find that in talking to normies, they are almost without exception oblivious to how ridiculous their 'null hypothesis' is when weighted analytically.  About 'conspricy' theories or any number of other classes of theory.  In this age of scientism, with very few people understanding the age of reason ideas, it's pretty unrealistic to expect a very significant percentage of people to think outside of the ever-shrinking confinement they are placed in.  Oh well.  Lots of them die or at least become sterilized.  Almost certainly in high enough numbers that the various globalist programs will indeed shape human evolution just as the globalists, who are almost always driven by the theories of eugenics, brag about.

Lol!  About the first documented use of the term came from a CIA management memo to their assets in the media (part of their 'mockingbird' program) to denigrate those who questioned the official report about the JFK assassination.  That was back in the 1960's!  The  (later discovered) memo corresponds well with documented use of the term/technique, and acceleration since.   It was (and is) highly effective.

It's good policy to more highly value the output of people who show their work.  At least it has been valuable to me, but I'm a 'truther' so-to-speak.

  https://www.corbettreport.com/i-am-a-conspiracy-theorist/

As usual for people of your level of rhetorical skill, you write something which is completely divorced from anything remotely associated with what I said, then to cover yourself snip what I said so that it is less likely that anyone will cross-check.  Classic.

But on the subject of 'racism', what 'race' is it that I'm being accused of 'racism' against?  All 'Jews', Semitic or Ashkenazim, are pretty clearly Caucasian just like me.  Am I a 'self-hating Caucasian'?


Ain't that the truth!

In my 'career coach' role, I think I can help you out a little bit.  You might consider actually learning some things about the real world and how it works.  You could still write politically correct swill even if you do recognize it as such and sell it to the low-functioning 'progressives' and 'liberals'.  As a matter of fact, you could almost certainly do it better, and it would open up new horizons among the equally low-functioning 'right-wingers' in their click-bait rags (Brightbart, Infowars, NewsMax etc.)  The paymasters would be the same anyway.  Just make sure you fawn over and defend anything which could remotely be considered associated with 'Jews', and you are already highly trained and proficient at that.

The main thing 'neo-' about the modern Ukrainian Nazi seems to be their warmness toward 'Jews'.  I have, however, run across the idea many times that indeed the 'old' Nazis were relatively warm to toward the Zionists, and especially as Nazism was building up in the 1930's.  In both cases it could be attributed to a 'don't bite the hand that feeds you' principle economically speaking and thus the Nazi's may not particularly be semitophiles as much as that they just know where their bread is buttered.  That is, right out of the pockets of the likes of Kolomoiski, Nuland/Nudelman, etc.

Looking at things from the flip-side, it also can be said that the Israelies are smart (like me) and it was reasonably obvious to them how the proxy war would end up.  This lead to policies which would not significantly antagonize or harm Russia all throughout this 'SMO', and beyond as the brush fire continues to flare up.  The freedom to remain neutral is limited to Israel where the various banana-republics (Germany, France, etc) are expected to follow Zenenski...right over the cliff to their doom.  This observation is yet another in-your-face illustration of who sits above who in the global power structure.  With every 'fuck you' that Israel issues to so-called West, the U.S. et-al respond with more 'please sir, can I have another?'  And they continue to send Israel even more money for 'security.', pass more laws against their citizens insulting 'the Jews', etc.

Data manipulation and fraud most likely unless the Fins are a lot more suicidal and stupid than I would have thought.  The 'polls' always show what the polling entities are getting paid to show in corrupt scientismistic societies.  The problem became much worse as the WEF 'young global leaders' (or 'young global scapegoats' or 'young global degenerates' or all three) matriculated and were installed into their assigned places as cabinet members and heads of state.

There was a supply/demand issue for instructional faculty in the GI-bill inspired post WW-II period, and many people who filled the gap were people who were associated with or influenced by the 'Frankfurt School.'  One of the popular theories shared broadly among the group was that the greatest future risk to 'The Jews' came from the United States which was the most likely to rise up as the next Nazi Germany.  (Given the recent history of the support construction of Ukraine I cannot say that they were wrong although I would note that it took some doing; the trajectory of the U.S. was molded heavily by the neocons and their intellectual for-bearers who were one of the main branches off the Frankfurt School academics and who have the means and motivation to force theoretical (and theatrical) prophecy into existence.)

Anyway, the 'solution' to the 'America problem' was to ultimately collapse the nation.  No reason not to milk it dry as a happy side-effect of the implementation of the collapse though.  I see this as being the strongest hypothesis for what misfortunes and failures have befallen the nation, and it's not reversible without a LOT of tears.  Probably not practical at all as I see it which is the main reason I bailed.

Oh, that ultra-clever trick again:  Clip the words I actually used and make up different ones.  Bravo on your technique...and shame on anyone who falls for such things.


I doubt you understand almost any of it almost ever, but I did stipulated that the post I was simply providing a link to something that semi-serious analysts with a reasonable enough background in the material might find interesting.  The article itself contained a series of observations and conjectures.  Competent parties who are interested can match them against their own and/or follow up on some of the suggestions to further verify.  I myself made some observations about activities in the ZNPP _very_ early on in the SMO, but information on this topic has been being highly censored by all sides.  I 'read' the article via a stream only because it is (or was) printed only in Hungarian and I don't read that language.

I'll post more information about what 'non-lethal biological weapons research' entails at a later date and on a different thread.  Suffice it to say, many 'public health clinics' out in the middle of nowhere are 'biolabs'.  If they are funded (from half way around the world) by USAID and other 'non-profit' NGOs, and through DTRA grants, and that sort of thing, it is highly likely that they are a piece of the puzzle.  It's also worth note that in most cases, not a single employee who set foot in the door of such a clinic has the foggiest clue about what they are involved in or what their role is.

Edit:  This just popped up at the top of BitChute.  And no, I had nothing to do with it.  It's about the Bulgarian reporter's work which I mentioned a few posts back.

  BOMBSHELL DOCUMENTARY FROM 2018 EXPOSES THE U.S. BIOLABS IN UKRAINE
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/EqYl6Pr5nlHL/

Quite an interesting 'read' about the ZNPP details.  On-par (in terms of interest to higher functioning analysts) with the Bulgarian journalist who did the work on the 'American' bio-weapons labs in Georgia.

  70t military grade enriched material accumulated by Ukraine & sponsors at Zaporozhye Nuclear plant
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/vTm7gZ6EvE77/

I have zero reason to doubt that stuff like this was going on, and very little reason to believe that such things (nukes, biological warfare agents, etc) have not migrated out of nation-state containment and into the 'private sector'.

Putin almost certainly would have brought $250,000,000,000 (quarter trillion) worth of SMO booty, once belonging to Larry Fink, home immediately.  He seems to be signaling 'Wanna try a tactical nuclear WW-III?  OK.  We can do that too if you insist.'

Shoigu would be no great loss as far as I can see, and he'd probably rather be focused on his own rendition of Wager anyway.  You know; the ones that crossed the Oskol river in Kharkiv recently and cleared out the forest on the Russian side of the river.

I doubt that Gerasimov is going anywhere.  To much clout, and as far as I can see he is highly competent too.  Good personality for that job as well.

As for Prigozhin, I was joking about his likelihood of winning the presidential election (in Ukraine) a few months ago, but seeing how quickly he made all of you Ziocon Nazi sympathizers onto swooning fan-boys, maybe it's a real possibility!  He's got one of the primary prerequisites nailed:  'half-Jew'.

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On Surovikin, b.open, here's some of why I say what I said (and further input is welcome.)  I'm not talking about or familiar with his earlier career, though it seems in a quick wikipedia-level skim that trouble has followed him all of his life and I could see 'armageddon' being a suitable nick-name for that reason.

 - His 'armageddon' and 'brutality' seem to me to be way over-played, and probably for psychological reasons.  He was brought in at a time when there was a very delinquent decision to have a real war, and when the absurdly gentle baby gloves came off.  The 'job description' changed to 'de-militarize' Ukraine including their military personnel.  'Brutality' is part-n-parcel to such a task.

 - Further specifications, for which 2020's Russia has earned my enduring respect, include 'spare Russian servicemen's lives' and 'be careful with all civilians'.  I suspect also 'slow-play' things as needed since a drawn out affair hurts NATO the most and introduces a higher risk of flaring out of hand.  This Surovikin accomplished with stunning competency including very sensible and safe fighting withdrawls and no sparing on defensive measures throughout the entire operational area and beyond.

 - The withdrawal from the North was reasonably impressive but left some room for improvement and civilians suffered (at the hands of the Nazis) because of them.  Kherson was picture-perfect and legendary IMHO.

 - The hard work, foresight, diligence, etc are paying dividends now even in light of the probably worst-case scenario that NATO is not folding and is doubling down in increased desperation.

I'm sure that Surovikin was not wholly responsible for all of the good decisions made over the course of the last year, but he was the guy who's ass was on the line, and especially for the time-period that really counted.

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On the ridiculous Prigozon psy-op, I think it's funny, and it seemed be effective (only because the adversaries are operating at such a low-function level), but I think it is kind of beneath Russia to leverage these kinds of antics.  I have more respect for the no-nonsense approach.

Is that so?  Actually I very often question what the Russian deep-state and what the general 'Govern - Ment_ality' are up to and warn that there are a lot of things which stink.  The Soviets were way ahead in terms of psy-ops for most of the cold war and used them mercielessly against their own.  It is the basis for Communism in fact...more-so than even the West's present form of 'Democracy'.

Even though I mentioned it a few days ago, I'll do it again for your benefit:  What are the chances that Russia rid itself of the Soviet-era psychological engineers since Putin's time even pretending that there was a broad political desire to do so?  I would say zero.  Putin himself was built up via cult-of-personality methods of the same basic type as Trump, Fauci, etc.

Looks like the Russians saw how easily the Ziocons gas-lit most of the world's 'stand-with-Ukraine' retard brigades and thought they would have a little fun themselves.  Anyone who falls for the baloney really is a world class chump.

Quick, NATO, Now's your chance!!!  Go! Go! Go!

...or at least don't let up the extreme pressure (lol) that the 'Greatest Counter-offensive' is apply to them Rooskies...

I think this poster may be one of the endless-death enthusiasts here on this board who claims to be 'half-Jew' but I've forgotten the details.  Seems like the _other_ half might be one of those satanic-kabbalist inbred chicken-swingers who sprouted up in that area over the past few hundred years and have sown misery around the world ever since.


Image at random from: https://wikkorg.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/even-jews-ask-is-judaism-a-satanic-cult-2/

Whatever the case, there has been a movement to 'make aliyah' to the 'Heavenly Jerusalem' in the historic pale-of-settlement for some years before the 'SMO' so I understand, and there seems to be widespread mirth among these weirdos in places like Odessa as the native peasants and serfs are wiped out in droves.  Larry Fink over at Blackrock doesn't seem to mind either, and it will be interesting to understand what tie-in, if any, might be occurring between these groups.

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While I'm a big believer in never underestimating one's enemies, I'm getting increasingly doubtful that the Ukrainians have any hope at all or any ability to generate or execute on someone elses' workable plan.  This is getting pretty existential for them (or at least they perceive it as such and it certainly would be for Zelenski and the Nazis.)  Their best hope is probably to threaten to start melting down nuclear power plants when the wind is blowing _toward_ the West as some sort of a perverse and illogical threat or something like that.


I'm more and more convinced by Ritter that Western weapons, and training in compressed format, does the poor fuckers more harm than good.


Rational considerations for sure.

Speaking of Surovikin, I consider him the real hero of the whole effort from the Russian side.  He chronically impresses me and although military history isn't one of my main interests, his performance matches that of any commander/planner/analyst I can think of off-hand.  Dima's recent post is illustrative of the kinds of traps I'm guessing are all over the place...if the Ukrainians can get that far:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PSpHyarlJE

Looks like the 'greatest counter-offensive' has become the 'most humiliating counter-offensive'.  In most places what's left of the Ukrainians didn't get through the forward lines and not even close to the actual defensive belts.  And they lost another huge crop of soldiers and a bunch of the Western weapons to boot.  Thankfully the DU contamination of the farmlands will be more contained to a relatively narrow strip.

The Russians set a lot of traps some of which got tripped as I've come to expect, and the effects were impressive.  Have the Russians done the same amongst the more fortified defensive belts farther back?  I would expect so.  I would expect that Russia would fall back to the first defensive belt for no other reason than to not let the work on their various traps go to waste.  At least if they are confident that they can mostly pick off the NATO systems which are spreading DU contamination early.

Seems like it is effective technique to send high ranking generals, including Grasimov himself, to the operational areas.  Working with the higher level staff is a good way for the more junior officers to get noticed so I'm guessing that everyone is really trying as hard as they can.  Plus it has a good effect on morale of the whole military.  The down-side is that one can get killed as happened to a high ranking general recently.

I am highly confident that if I were a conscripted Ukrainian I would immediately recognize that the cause of my grief was a flood of NATO gear and I would be at least passively trying to get rid of the 30% or so which got through the corruption and on to the front lines.  I sometimes get the feeling like that may be what we are seeing at the present time.

Also we are seeing more mass surrenders which is also a good sign and long overdue.  We saw it early on, then not so much for a year or so.  I don't have a real strong hypothesis about why, but a few include:  1) Even when the Nazi's had free reign before the SMO, there were serving soldiers who were dis-satisfied.  They left the ranks, and 2) the ZioNazi SS commissars and so-called 'nationalists' upped their game and became even more brutal.  Although I've not heard of it, I would expect that they are exacting retribution against the family members of POW's back home since that a common tactic of these classes of scumbags.

More and more Ukraine's options shrink until pure terrorism is the only option left to them.  We'll just have to see how far NATO can push them in this direction.  Alas, it could be quite a ways farther since they have broad support in such methods from the entire 'Collective West' not the least of which being the financial and media power-houses.

The Chinese don't allow their people to watch TikTok.  Zuckerberg doesn't let his kids on Facebook.  So I've heard anyway.  I would guess that most of my former peers in Silicon Valley would not let their kids near Youtube Shorts.  Seems to be a pattern here.  The content is retard-chow, and 'you are what you eat.'   That's even before the woke grooming component which is truly disturbing and amazingly effective, so it seems as I watch society evolve.

'That's about the size of it' so we say.  I've never read Koestler's book, or any other one related to this topic for that matter.  It is, to me, currently the strongest hypothesis after many years of observation and general Occam's razor type stuff.  Probably the strongest single observation that I've made is the intellectual Gestapo/Mafia tactics used against anyone who doesn't tow the 'kosher' line on the whole topic.

Koestler is widely recognized as a Jewish person who hoped in publishing his work that, to quote Wikipedia (which has been since it's early years Zionist occupied territory):

  "he was convinced that if he could prove that the bulk of Eastern European Jews (the ancestors of today's Ashkenazim) were
   descended from the Khazars, the racial basis for anti-Semitism would be removed and anti-Semitism itself could disappear"

For my part, I would hope for the same thing and believe it quite possible to at least a notable degree.  I would much rather focus on the particular actions of particular individual and groups than 'the Jews', but the intellectual cluster-fuck surrounding the whole topic make it, by careful design and dedicated effort, impossible to do.

Edit:  I might add that a fair number of people who I believe to be a fairly modest sized group of genuine 'white supremacists' and genuinely 'anti-semitic' are not fond at all of the 'Khazarian hypothesis' and stick strongly to the Zionist's notion that all those who 'call themselves Jews' are genetically associated with with the 'Holy lands' and decedents of Jacob and all that horse-shit.  Some of them probably do genuinely believe that as a consequence all 'Jews' should be rounded up and in some cases killed.  I consider this evidence that these radical creeps are are largely cultivated and led around by the nose by Zionists/Khazarian Mafia types as they are far more useful to the cause than genuinely threatening.  The best way to defeat an enemy is to lead it after all.


Don't forget also the actual deployment of non-lethal biological weapons at home and around the world in order to achieve political and economic goals.