Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

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Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly. Lots of casualties in manpower and armor (including a few Leopards) and little progress in moving forward. There is no air support and there are very few drones in the skies above the front line (Russian electronic warfare probably works well). There is no stampede, and attack helicopters shoot columns of armored vehicles like in a shooting range. Crimea cannot be won back in this way, Ukraine needs to try harder.

And here's how the protection is going. Russians will come to liberate you with tanks, rape your women, kill your dogs, murder men in cold blood, steal your cars and washing machines, drink all your alcohol and then blow up a dam or a nuclear power plant and destroy what's left. If I were to find myself under the protection of RF, I'd pack my bags and run West.

You forgot about trophy toilets and asphalt, without them the picture would be incomplete.

Who said Ukraine counteroffensive is in Crimea mate.Don't you read the news,it is elsewhere but as president Zelensky says,no details will be provided except that they are seeing good results from heavy fighting in Donetsk and somewhere else.I am giving you a hint anyway so you can pass it on to the Russian commanders if they don't read this forum  and that is that Crimea will be the last territory to be restored to Ukraine after heavy fighting.They also have intercepted a call that clearly shows that Russia had blown the dam at Nova Khakova,unthinkable terror move but that is what Russia is nowadays.

Mykhailo Podolyak said that on May 28 he would go to Yalta and tell everyone about the future of Crimea. Somehow it didn't work out. Well, I'm not the only one who sometimes makes mistakes in forecasts.

It seems that the strength of the resistance of the Russian troops and the level of losses among their own came as a surprise to the Ukrainian command. As a result of the battles of the last few days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have clearly not been able to achieve anything resembling a strategic success. The main task - to break through the first line of defense, create a bridgehead and develop an offensive - has not been completed. Officials do not know how to comment on what is happening. In the front-line cities they write about a large number of wounded, call for blood donation.

About Zaluchny. What the Russian rocket failed to do seems to have been successfully done by Zelensky (apparently fearing the growth of Zaluzhny's popularity) - Zaluzhny is now in the role of a wedding general and essentially does not command the General Staff, key decisions are made at the Headquarters, where there are more officials than professional military men. I think there are so many frankly stupid and failed decisions from here.

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Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly. Lots of casualties in manpower and armor (including a few Leopards) and little progress in moving forward. There is no air support and there are very few drones in the skies above the front line (Russian electronic warfare probably works well). There is no stampede, and attack helicopters shoot columns of armored vehicles like in a shooting range. Crimea cannot be won back in this way, Ukraine needs to try harder.

And here's how the protection is going. Russians will come to liberate you with tanks, rape your women, kill your dogs, murder men in cold blood, steal your cars and washing machines, drink all your alcohol and then blow up a dam or a nuclear power plant and destroy what's left. If I were to find myself under the protection of RF, I'd pack my bags and run West.

You forgot about trophy toilets and asphalt, without them the picture would be incomplete.

Who said Ukraine counteroffensive is in Crimea mate.Don't you read the news,it is elsewhere but as president Zelensky says,no details will be provided except that they are seeing good results from heavy fighting in Donetsk and somewhere else.I am giving you a hint anyway so you can pass it on to the Russian commanders if they don't read this forum  and that is that Crimea will be the last territory to be restored to Ukraine after heavy fighting.They also have intercepted a call that clearly shows that Russia had blown the dam at Nova Khakova,unthinkable terror move but that is what Russia is nowadays.

Mykhailo Podolyak said that on May 28 he would go to Yalta and tell everyone about the future of Crimea. Somehow it didn't work out. Well, I'm not the only one who sometimes makes mistakes in forecasts.

It seems that the strength of the resistance of the Russian troops and the level of losses among their own came as a surprise to the Ukrainian command. As a result of the battles of the last few days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have clearly not been able to achieve anything resembling a strategic success. The main task - to break through the first line of defense, create a bridgehead and develop an offensive - has not been completed. Officials do not know how to comment on what is happening. In the front-line cities they write about a large number of wounded, call for blood donation.

About Zaluchny. What the Russian rocket failed to do seems to have been successfully done by Zelensky (apparently fearing the growth of Zaluzhny's popularity) - Zaluzhny is now in the role of a wedding general and essentially does not command the General Staff, key decisions are made at the Headquarters, where there are more officials than professional military men. I think there are so many frankly stupid and failed decisions from here.

I am not seeing any advance from Russia either and the blowing up of the dam was a stupid move as they made their "own people suffering big",weren't they the saviors and the protectors of that land that they brutally blew up and made all the city go deep in water.They did this intentionally to halt any counteroffensive from Ukraine but they did not take into consideration that they hit themselves,I don't know if Russians are that stupid but this was a really really bad move from their side.They are losing everything in this senseless war in Ukraine as Finland added 1300 km border to Nato country now,Sweden will join soon and after the war Ukraine also,so what did Russia achieve from this war I cannot get it?

[suchmoon]

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly.

So when is the Russian victory parade happening in Kyiv? Why no parade in Bakhmut, such a great victory, no?

[swogerino]

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly.

So when is the Russian victory parade happening in Kyiv? Why no parade in Bakhmut, such a great victory, no?

The funny thing about Bakhmut is that as soon as they "liberated" it and the regular Russian army took control of it they one day after,lost a town in the vicinity of Bakhmut,now there is a great counter attack going on there as Zelensky said today so I am afraid we won't see any such parade for the time being,now I think that the Russian parade of 9 May to be removed from their official holiday calendar as no one will remember them as winners of the second world war anymore but just as a terrorist state who blows up dams and flood cities,no other country in the world have done such terror acts even at war.

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Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly.

So when is the Russian victory parade happening in Kyiv? Why no parade in Bakhmut, such a great victory, no?

Reality often makes its own adjustments to human plans, this is normal. I think now Russia is taking a wait-and-see attitude, giving Ukraine the opportunity to realize its offensive potential and spend the accumulated reserves in manpower and military equipment. When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential. Yesterday, Mark Milley acknowledged that now there are at least three superpowers in the world (USA, Russia and China) and the modern world has essentially become multipolar, the era of US sole domination is over. Actually, this is what we are now fighting in Ukraine to declare a new world order and a new balance of power. And it seems there are some successes, although it is too early to sum up.

[swogerino]

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly.

So when is the Russian victory parade happening in Kyiv? Why no parade in Bakhmut, such a great victory, no?

Reality often makes its own adjustments to human plans, this is normal. I think now Russia is taking a wait-and-see attitude, giving Ukraine the opportunity to realize its offensive potential and spend the accumulated reserves in manpower and military equipment. When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential. Yesterday, Mark Milley acknowledged that now there are at least three superpowers in the world (USA, Russia and China) and the modern world has essentially become multipolar, the era of US sole domination is over. Actually, this is what we are now fighting in Ukraine to declare a new world order and a new balance of power. And it seems there are some successes, although it is too early to sum up.

Wow man to believe Russia is a super power and that is not winning anything in Ukraine takes a lot of courage and I congratulate you on that,you got courage to say nonsense and bullshit  .So what damage has Russia exactly caused to the US in specific that they should be proud of?Absolutely nothing and this will continue to be like that,I don't see any success in normal gauge of how a success is measured but if losing a lot of manpower,military equipment,losing more borders to NATO is a success of some sort then I am dumb  .

China on the other hand is reluctant and hesitant to show their no limit friendship with Russia,they are not giving a helping hand and as such Russia is just an isolated country who is seeking new friendships in Africa and Middle East now,no one in Europe gives the slightest sh*t about Russia anymore.

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Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counter-offensive that has not yet begun seems to be going badly.

So when is the Russian victory parade happening in Kyiv? Why no parade in Bakhmut, such a great victory, no?

Reality often makes its own adjustments to human plans, this is normal. I think now Russia is taking a wait-and-see attitude, giving Ukraine the opportunity to realize its offensive potential and spend the accumulated reserves in manpower and military equipment. When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential. Yesterday, Mark Milley acknowledged that now there are at least three superpowers in the world (USA, Russia and China) and the modern world has essentially become multipolar, the era of US sole domination is over. Actually, this is what we are now fighting in Ukraine to declare a new world order and a new balance of power. And it seems there are some successes, although it is too early to sum up.

Wow man to believe Russia is a super power and that is not winning anything in Ukraine takes a lot of courage and I congratulate you on that,you got courage to say nonsense and bullshit  .So what damage has Russia exactly caused to the US in specific that they should be proud of?Absolutely nothing and this will continue to be like that,I don't see any success in normal gauge of how a success is measured but if losing a lot of manpower,military equipment,losing more borders to NATO is a success of some sort then I am dumb  .

China on the other hand is reluctant and hesitant to show their no limit friendship with Russia,they are not giving a helping hand and as such Russia is just an isolated country who is seeking new friendships in Africa and Middle East now,no one in Europe gives the slightest sh*t about Russia anymore.

You are not interesting to me as an interlocutor, because you have nothing in your head except propaganda shit, slogans and chants. You do not even experience cognitive dissonance, accusing Russia in one paragraph of blowing up the dam at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station and at the same time arguing that this is unprofitable for Russia. Everything is fine in your schizophrenia, except for repeated statements by Ukraine at the end of last year about the intention to blow up this dam, which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

[Spendulus]

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You are not interesting to me as an interlocutor, because you have nothing in your head except propaganda shit, slogans and chants. ...Lol.

These days, in online discussions, the actual live humans are few...

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which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

Shelling with what? Confirmed by what sources? Russian?
AFAIK there are even reports from seismic watchers in Norway that there was an explosion at the dam, not shelling. US satellites confirmed the information with infrared sensors that detected a single explosion.
Also, according to reports from Ukraine the dam was rigged with explosives some time ago, long before the counteroffensive. This is consistent with the way Russians operate. They did the same in Zaporizhzhia power plant and almost blew it up when one of their mines exploded unintentionally near one of the buildings.

It's actually funny when you think of how Russians are bad at warfare. Digging trenches in irradiated soil of the Red Forest is probably their best achievement to date, but there were others.

One Russian soldier has reportedly been killed and another left injured after they were tricked into running into a house containing their own army's landmines by a Ukrainian prank call
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-soldiers-blown-up-mine-27872198

According to some reports, a landing craft of the Black Sea Fleet D-106 is reported to have exploded when it hit one of the Russian navy’s own mines near Mariupol, the southern Ukrainian port city that Russia’s troops destroyed and now occupy.
https://defence-blog.com/russian-landing-craft-sinks-after-hitting-sea-mine/

In a video posted on Prigozhin’s social media channels, Lt Col Roman Venevitin, the commander of Russia’s 72nd Brigade, tells an interrogator that, while drunk, he had ordered his troops to fire on a Wagner convoy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/wagner-group-release-video-of-captured-russian-commander

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which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

Shelling with what? Confirmed by what sources? Russian?
AFAIK there are even reports from seismic watchers in Norway that there was an explosion at the dam, not shelling. US satellites confirmed the information with infrared sensors that detected a single explosion.
Also, according to reports from Ukraine the dam was rigged with explosives some time ago, long before the counteroffensive. This is consistent with the way Russians operate. They did the same in Zaporizhzhia power plant and almost blew it up when one of their mines exploded unintentionally near one of the buildings.

Washington Post ok?

Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.

The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.

Since last summer, Ukraine has fired more than 500 shots at the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. There is also public evidence that Ukraine considered the plan to flood the valley downriver as one of the measures to influence Russia. Ukraine wanted to do it, Ukraine tried to do it many times, Ukraine did it. What's wrong?

It's actually funny when you think of how Russians are bad at warfare. Digging trenches in irradiated soil of the Red Forest is probably their best achievement to date, but there were others.

One Russian soldier has reportedly been killed and another left injured after they were tricked into running into a house containing their own army's landmines by a Ukrainian prank call
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-soldiers-blown-up-mine-27872198

According to some reports, a landing craft of the Black Sea Fleet D-106 is reported to have exploded when it hit one of the Russian navy’s own mines near Mariupol, the southern Ukrainian port city that Russia’s troops destroyed and now occupy.
https://defence-blog.com/russian-landing-craft-sinks-after-hitting-sea-mine/

In a video posted on Prigozhin’s social media channels, Lt Col Roman Venevitin, the commander of Russia’s 72nd Brigade, tells an interrogator that, while drunk, he had ordered his troops to fire on a Wagner convoy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/wagner-group-release-video-of-captured-russian-commander

Glad you're having fun. If Russia is fighting so badly, where is Ukraine's successful counteroffensive?

[suchmoon]

When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential.

The time for Putin to show his "strike potential" was before Ukraine got Leopards and Patriots and Himarses and all that other stuff. And he failed miserably. Best he can hope for now is some sort of stalemate but having only ~10% worth of NATO GDP he will eventually lose even if he somehow manages to ramp up production of 1970s soviet military equipment.

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When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential.

The time for Putin to show his "strike potential" was before Ukraine got Leopards and Patriots and Himarses and all that other stuff. And he failed miserably.

You are clearly unfair to Putin's strategic genius. There are numerous problems in implementing a special military operation in Ukraine, but the initial flexibility of this excellent strategy forgives them all! The current position of Russia looks extremely advantageous, although of course it could be much better. You can always do something better in an imperfect real world.

Best he can hope for now is some sort of stalemate but having only ~10% worth of NATO GDP he will eventually lose even if he somehow manages to ramp up production of 1970s soviet military equipment.

In terms of GDP percentage, NATO has a significant advantage over Russia, but fortunately this is not a competition in terms of the percentage of GDP. Himars are beautiful, I think this is a very good volley fire system, one of the best in the world, maybe the best. And what are these Himars doing now, why, for example, are they not massively shelling Russian positions in the Orekhovo or Lobkovo region, taking advantage of the firing range? Where are the systems for remote demining, why do armored columns of Ukraine move along the roads during the day, where they can be easily detected and covered with artillery or shot with ATGMs from front-line aviation? Why are there no anti-mine trawls on Leopards? The Armed Forces of Ukraine disappoint me with the mediocrity of their counteroffensive, falling into a mediocre frontal onslaught. Perhaps Zaluzhny was really seriously shell-shocked in May and he was removed from control, but I don’t see the handwriting of a talented general in the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And NATO is not in a position to help Ukraine here, because NATO generals themselves do not have experience in conducting large-scale military operations, they studied from textbooks for local anti-terrorist operations. NATO instructors at European training grounds can prepare another million Ukrainians for the Offensive Guards Two (if they find so many willing ones) and they will all be defeated. And all the Leopards and Bradleys will also burn in the endless steppes of Ukraine. But let's see how events develop, I think Ukraine has now activated about a third of its strategic offensive reserve, a critical situation will arise when less than half of the reserves remain. If Ukraine does not break through the front line within a week, the situation may unfold for it in the most unfavorable dramatic way. It seems Zelensky is already very nervous.

[paxmao]

When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential.

The time for Putin to show his "strike potential" was before Ukraine got Leopards and Patriots and Himarses and all that other stuff. And he failed miserably.

You are clearly unfair to Putin's strategic genius. There are numerous problems in implementing a special military operation in Ukraine, but the initial flexibility of this excellent strategy forgives them all! The current position of Russia looks extremely advantageous, although of course it could be much better. You can always do something better in an imperfect real world.

Best he can hope for now is some sort of stalemate but having only ~10% worth of NATO GDP he will eventually lose even if he somehow manages to ramp up production of 1970s soviet military equipment.

In terms of GDP percentage, NATO has a significant advantage over Russia, but fortunately this is not a competition in terms of the percentage of GDP. Himars are beautiful, I think this is a very good volley fire system, one of the best in the world, maybe the best. And what are these Himars doing now, why, for example, are they not massively shelling Russian positions in the Orekhovo or Lobkovo region, taking advantage of the firing range? Where are the systems for remote demining, why do armored columns of Ukraine move along the roads during the day, where they can be easily detected and covered with artillery or shot with ATGMs from front-line aviation? Why are there no anti-mine trawls on Leopards? The Armed Forces of Ukraine disappoint me with the mediocrity of their counteroffensive, falling into a mediocre frontal onslaught. Perhaps Zaluzhny was really seriously shell-shocked in May and he was removed from control, but I don’t see the handwriting of a talented general in the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And NATO is not in a position to help Ukraine here, because NATO generals themselves do not have experience in conducting large-scale military operations, they studied from textbooks for local anti-terrorist operations. NATO instructors at European training grounds can prepare another million Ukrainians for the Offensive Guards Two (if they find so many willing ones) and they will all be defeated. And all the Leopards and Bradleys will also burn in the endless steppes of Ukraine. But let's see how events develop, I think Ukraine has now activated about a third of its strategic offensive reserve, a critical situation will arise when less than half of the reserves remain. If Ukraine does not break through the front line within a week, the situation may unfold for it in the most unfavorable dramatic way. It seems Zelensky is already very nervous.

Emm... HIMARS are not for volley fire. They can fire in volley, but that is not their best use and is not for mass shelling, it is for precision targeting.

Why one small column was seen moving in the day without precautions? I cannot answer that, but probably due to some stupid officer.

Yes, in a wart of attrition the economy wins. Ask Japan.

NATO is helping Ukraine massively and they do have relatively recent experience in massive military operations (Afghanistan, Irak, Kuwait,...)  Intelligence, strategy, everything... The US is always fighting one war or another and they have many salaries to justify - they do have seasoned high rankings and very good strategists. It is  foolish to think that they learnt about war "in books" - that would be a grave mistake. Look, even if only 10% of the guys in the US army know what they are doing, that is already a lot knowledge and talent being used.

The fact is that Ukraine is under the "shhh" policy, so all you are getting is the RF version. Do no make the mistake to think that you have real information and try to draw any conclusion from it.

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I sort of wondered if the Ukrainians might even be stopped before materially breaching the current fighting lines.  So far it seems that that is happening.

Looks from some of the wreckage of some of the Leopard tanks that even in the German NATO gear is using DU.  This is unfortunate since it will damage the productivity of the fighting areas for multiple generations.  I would expect that the Russian strategy will be even more to not allow a broad area fighting grounds but try to get it done in one area.

The Russians claim to have ceased use of DU weapons 20 years ago in spite of their effectiveness due to humanitarian concerns.  True or not, I don't know, but if they maintained a stockpile, now would be the time to use them since NATO has chosen to destroy some of the most productive farm-land on the planet and there isn't much the Russians can do about it except to try to get it happening in as small an area as possible.  Thank God they have air superiority.  If it were me, I'd be loading up all the close air support aircraft with as much DU as they can carry and really putting the hammer down.  Especially on the NATO gear which is know to utilize these munitions.

On the other hand, it would be good to save a fair bit of DU for use in areas of little long-term interest (the Western Ukroid Nazi-lands, Poland, etc) and maybe to hand out to others who might someday get into it with the 'unfriendly' countries.  Would be a real shame of Moldova had to market uranium-flavored sparkling grape drink instead of wine as a for-instance.  I highly doubt that such a product would compete well on the global markets against those countries who were a little more careful about which satanic fucks to get in bed with.  Everyone knows who made the decision to use DU in the first place.  What goes around comes around so they say.  Not always, but often enough.

[BADecker]

As for depleted uranium, look at Chernobyl. This danger is being produced in a different way in the bio-labs in Ukraine. It's killing off natural soil microbes, etc.

Plus, the great battle. The bottom article, below.


Forests Around Chernobyl Aren't Decaying Properly


https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2023/06/forests-around-chernobyl-arent-decaying.html
However, there are even more fundamental issues going on in the environment. According to a new study published in Oecologia, decomposers - organisms such as microbes, fungi and some types of insects that drive the process of decay - have also suffered from the contamination. These creatures are responsible for an essential component of any ecosystem: recycling organic matter back into the soil. Issues with such a basic-level process, the authors of the study think, could have compounding effects for the entire ecosystem. The team decided to investigate this question in part because of a peculiar field observation. "We have conducted research in Chernobyl since 1991 and have noticed a significant accumulation of litter over time," the write. Moreover, trees in the infamous Red Forest - "an area where all of the pine trees turned a reddish color and then died shortly after the accident - "did not seem to be decaying, even 15 to 20 years after the meltdown.
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The Biggest War Battle on European Soil Since WW2 is HAPPENING right now - almost not a peep from the Main-Stream Media!


https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/the-biggest-war-battle-on-european-soil-since-ww2-is-happening-right-now-almost-not-a-peep-from-the-main-stream-media
The largest war-fighting battle on European soil since WW2 is RAGING right now - today, June 8, 2023 - and not even a peep from the West's  so-called "main stream media!"

According to battlefield sources, Ukraine's first attack on Zaporozhye is almost repulsed.

A lot of Ukrainian soldiers are laying down DEAD in the minefields. They were simply driven forward by their commanders without properly preparing the passages. They say the picture is terrible, the enemy has a lot of DEAD or seriously wounded just lying on the battlefield.

It is likely Ukraine will regroup and drive a few more waves to the slaughter.

The Russians say "Our boys are ready and charged."

One Russian source said, "we are not sleeping, we are waiting!"

SO FAR . . .

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The battles are raging.  Hundreds are dying.   But since the mass-media is simply not reporting what's taking place, people of the West have no idea at all how bad things are, or that the US and NATO will likely find out they have LOST . . . this week.   Unless, of course, they create a false flag designed to get directly involved in the war, and bring on World War 3.
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which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

Shelling with what? Confirmed by what sources? Russian?
AFAIK there are even reports from seismic watchers in Norway that there was an explosion at the dam, not shelling. US satellites confirmed the information with infrared sensors that detected a single explosion.
Also, according to reports from Ukraine the dam was rigged with explosives some time ago, long before the counteroffensive. This is consistent with the way Russians operate. They did the same in Zaporizhzhia power plant and almost blew it up when one of their mines exploded unintentionally near one of the buildings.

Washington Post ok?

I'd expect something better than an article from 2022.
I guess they're now equipping himars launchers with delayed fuse that explodes 6 months later. This reads like a story straight from kp.ru

Glad you're having fun. If Russia is fighting so badly, where is Ukraine's successful counteroffensive?

It must be going well for the Ukrainians if Russians are blowing up dams and drowning their own soldiers in the process, trying to stop it.

[paxmao]

I sort of wondered if the Ukrainians might even be stopped before materially breaching the current fighting lines.  So far it seems that that is happening.

Looks from some of the wreckage of some of the Leopard tanks that even in the German NATO gear is using DU.  This is unfortunate since it will damage the productivity of the fighting areas for multiple generations.  I would expect that the Russian strategy will be even more to not allow a broad area fighting grounds but try to get it done in one area.

The Russians claim to have ceased use of DU weapons 20 years ago in spite of their effectiveness due to humanitarian concerns.  True or not, I don't know, but if they maintained a stockpile, now would be the time to use them since NATO has chosen to destroy some of the most productive farm-land on the planet and there isn't much the Russians can do about it except to try to get it happening in as small an area as possible.  Thank God they have air superiority.  If it were me, I'd be loading up all the close air support aircraft with as much DU as they can carry and really putting the hammer down.  Especially on the NATO gear which is know to utilize these munitions.

On the other hand, it would be good to save a fair bit of DU for use in areas of little long-term interest (the Western Ukroid Nazi-lands, Poland, etc) and maybe to hand out to others who might someday get into it with the 'unfriendly' countries.  Would be a real shame of Moldova had to market uranium-flavored sparkling grape drink instead of wine as a for-instance.  I highly doubt that such a product would compete well on the global markets against those countries who were a little more careful about which satanic fucks to get in bed with.  Everyone knows who made the decision to use DU in the first place.  What goes around comes around so they say.  Not always, but often enough.

The RF army do have DU munitions, but you are taking this argument to silly levels. The fact is that what I have seem being fielded from the RF army does not require anything special to destroy it, just a AP round or, for some tanks seen there, an RPG to be honest. For now, I have seen no proof of DU in Ukraine so my guess is that it is unlike that is being really used for anything at this point.

which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

Shelling with what? Confirmed by what sources? Russian?
AFAIK there are even reports from seismic watchers in Norway that there was an explosion at the dam, not shelling. US satellites confirmed the information with infrared sensors that detected a single explosion.
Also, according to reports from Ukraine the dam was rigged with explosives some time ago, long before the counteroffensive. This is consistent with the way Russians operate. They did the same in Zaporizhzhia power plant and almost blew it up when one of their mines exploded unintentionally near one of the buildings.

Washington Post ok?

I'd expect something better than an article from 2022.
I guess they're now equipping himars launchers with delayed fuse that explodes 6 months later. This reads like a story straight from kp.ru

Glad you're having fun. If Russia is fighting so badly, where is Ukraine's successful counteroffensive?

It must be going well for the Ukrainians if Russians are blowing up dams and drowning their own soldiers in the process, trying to stop it.

I think that the RF blew the dam, but I see that Ukraine may benefit from it in military terms at least in the short term. If you are defending, the river is an asset, the wider and deeper the better. When you are attacking, it is an obstacle. My guess is that once the main flood starts withdrawing, you will get a narrower river, easier to cross. Since Ukraine is in the offensive... that sound like advantageous.

[suchmoon]

When the Leopards and Offensive Guards are over, there will be an opportunity for Russia to demonstrate its strike potential.

The time for Putin to show his "strike potential" was before Ukraine got Leopards and Patriots and Himarses and all that other stuff. And he failed miserably.

You are clearly unfair to Putin's strategic genius. There are numerous problems in implementing a special military operation in Ukraine, but the initial flexibility of this excellent strategy forgives them all! The current position of Russia looks extremely advantageous, although of course it could be much better. You can always do something better in an imperfect real world.

There is no advantage for Russia in this position where Ukraine is getting modern NATO weapons and Putin's best tank is a "modernized" T72 and his fake hypersonic wunderwaffe provides target practice for Patriots. Obviously if he could have hit Ukraine with Armatas and SU-57s last summer he'd have his victory parade in Lviv by now, right?

But Russia's tzars always leaned heavily on meat grinder "strategy" rather than technology and Putin has convinced his fascist fanbase that he's a strategic genius so they'll forgive everything.

In terms of GDP percentage, NATO has a significant advantage over Russia, but fortunately this is not a competition in terms of the percentage of GDP. Himars are beautiful, I think this is a very good volley fire system, one of the best in the world, maybe the best. And what are these Himars doing now, why, for example, are they not massively shelling Russian positions in the Orekhovo or Lobkovo region, taking advantage of the firing range? Where are the systems for remote demining, why do armored columns of Ukraine move along the roads during the day, where they can be easily detected and covered with artillery or shot with ATGMs from front-line aviation? Why are there no anti-mine trawls on Leopards? The Armed Forces of Ukraine disappoint me with the mediocrity of their counteroffensive, falling into a mediocre frontal onslaught. Perhaps Zaluzhny was really seriously shell-shocked in May and he was removed from control, but I don’t see the handwriting of a talented general in the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And NATO is not in a position to help Ukraine here, because NATO generals themselves do not have experience in conducting large-scale military operations, they studied from textbooks for local anti-terrorist operations. NATO instructors at European training grounds can prepare another million Ukrainians for the Offensive Guards Two (if they find so many willing ones) and they will all be defeated. And all the Leopards and Bradleys will also burn in the endless steppes of Ukraine. But let's see how events develop, I think Ukraine has now activated about a third of its strategic offensive reserve, a critical situation will arise when less than half of the reserves remain. If Ukraine does not break through the front line within a week, the situation may unfold for it in the most unfavorable dramatic way. It seems Zelensky is already very nervous.

You're coping really well, keep it up. Remember the rule of two walls when your city starts getting liberated.

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which were confirmed by the action in the form of shelling. Lol.

Shelling with what? Confirmed by what sources? Russian?
AFAIK there are even reports from seismic watchers in Norway that there was an explosion at the dam, not shelling. US satellites confirmed the information with infrared sensors that detected a single explosion.
Also, according to reports from Ukraine the dam was rigged with explosives some time ago, long before the counteroffensive. This is consistent with the way Russians operate. They did the same in Zaporizhzhia power plant and almost blew it up when one of their mines exploded unintentionally near one of the buildings.

Washington Post ok?

I'd expect something better than an article from 2022.
I guess they're now equipping himars launchers with delayed fuse that explodes 6 months later. This reads like a story straight from kp.ru

Glad you're having fun. If Russia is fighting so badly, where is Ukraine's successful counteroffensive?

It must be going well for the Ukrainians if Russians are blowing up dams and drowning their own soldiers in the process, trying to stop it.

This is direct evidence against Ukraine. Maybe you, in contrast, have direct evidence against Russia, in addition to unfounded accusations? No, you don't have them, and no one has them, otherwise they would have been circulated by all Western media. There is no evidence that Russia did it and there is no motive for Russia to do it. The best argument against Russia is that if there had been no invasion at all, then the dam would have been intact. This is a ridiculous argument.

I think that the RF blew the dam, but I see that Ukraine may benefit from it in military terms at least in the short term. If you are defending, the river is an asset, the wider and deeper the better. When you are attacking, it is an obstacle. My guess is that once the main flood starts withdrawing, you will get a narrower river, easier to cross. Since Ukraine is in the offensive... that sound like advantageous.

I also think that the destruction of the dam was artificially provoked as part of a secret operation of Russian intelligence in order to prevent the Ukrainian secret operation to seize the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant by underwater swimmers and attack Energodar on boats through the Kakhovka reservoir. But it worked quite cleanly and we most likely will never know the truth.

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This is direct evidence against Ukraine.

That's not "direct evidence". It's circumstantial at best, not really about this kind of event - the article you quoted was about raising the water level (basically opening the gates while not having access to them) without flooding villages, not blowing up the dam completely.

Maybe you, in contrast, have direct evidence against Russia, in addition to unfounded accusations? No, you don't have them, and no one has them, otherwise they would have been circulated by all Western media.

Russians controlling the dam and the impossibility to cause this kind of damage remotely and unnoticed is quite damning albeit also circumstantial evidence. But you wouldn't believe "Western media" even if they had a high resolution photo of drunk Ivan unloading a truckload of TNT at the dam so let's not pretend that you are looking for evidence here.

Funny how Russian satellite surveillance has nothing to say about this, almost as if Russia doesn't have anything up there.