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81  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: at 7$ per btc i need to pull the plug on: September 07, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
1.  Not everyone has 4 cards in each computer.  I have a couple of rigs that I am running with only 1 card in each of them, simply because that is all the motherboards will support (and I don't want to mess with trying to get a 1x slot working).
Any miner should look at all the facts before they step blindly into mining. If you decided having a rig with 1 card in it was a good idea that was your mistake. All of my rigs have 4+ cards in them to make the most out of the electricity I'm using from the mobo, hdd, cpu ect.

2.  Not everyone has a basement.  I don't.  Actually, there's very few homes in Oregon that DO have a basement.
If a basement is not an option

3.  Yes, I could open the window, but I don't want to.  I'd rather use A/C, because I get very uncomfortable in temperatures above 73F or so.  I also have pretty horrible allergies depending on what plants/trees/grasses are letting off their pollen.
That's a choice you made that doesn't mean you cant do it. You cant complain that electricity is high and choose not to do what you can to lower it. Either suck it up and open a window or don't complain because your electricity bill is higher.
82  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Is my 890FXA-GD70 bad? on: September 07, 2011, 03:30:31 PM
Its been a while since I put a computer together and I'm just trying to get a little input before I return it.

Basically, when I try to start it, it doesn't start.  No fans turn or anything. The power button on the board lights up for a second, and the power supply makes a click and thats it.  If I disconnect the 8 pin CPU power, it will start.  (although that doesn't help me much) I've taken out the cpu and made sure it was set correctly.  I've changed power supplies.  I've removed the video card.  I've removed the memory.  Still does the same thing. 

Am I missing something or should I return this baby?

Thanks
Mike


I had the same exact problem. I would hit the power button on the mobo I would hear one click from the psu and then if I attempted to hit the power button again no click from the psu but the light would flash to show I hit the power button. If I disconected power from the psu and reattached it would let me make the click again and the only thing that ever lit up was the power button.

Just return it. That's what I did and everything is working perfectly now.
83  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Lots of options for 6990's again on: September 07, 2011, 03:24:54 PM
6990's are a niche product few gamers were buying (prior to the bitcoin surge in April-May).
Coincidentally the stocks ran out everywhere as mining became commonplace.

At current difficulty levels and bitcoin prices, 6990's aren't even nearly as profitable.
It will take a long, long time to break even with these. They aren't selling like hotcakes anymore.

That's not what I was saying. These cards have sold out on newegg multiple times in the last week or two and newegg keeps restocking. They never did this before and no one else has either. It seems like 6990's are being delivered weekly now which wasn't the case a month or two ago.
84  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: at 7$ per btc i need to pull the plug on: September 07, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Other factors besides video card usage.  Other computer components, fans, and air conditioning.  If you air condition your home any energy that goes into the home is just as costly to extract from the home.  In the winter it may make more sense but if you are using 200 watts as your metric, you are way off.

I was just trying to keep it simple. I have a rig of 4 5830's that pull 900 watts from the wall that's 225 per card (if you average in the watts used by mobo and cpu ect.) If you add a 5th or 6th card to the rig it goes very close to 200 watts each. So that part of what I was saying is correct.

When you say you need air conditioning that's not entirely true. You can throw your rigs in a basement and they will be perfectly fine with out ac and you wont be effected that much by the heat. If a basement is not an option then I'll point out that opening the window now is its own form of ac for the northern states. It gets to between 50-60 degrees at night which is as low as any ac will go. During the day it doesn't really get hotter then 80 degrees so you could just suck it up and not use ac because the computers wont be harmed it will just be a discomfort for your self. This discomfort will slowly go away though as it gets colder.

Any other factors I should take into account?
85  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5970 on: September 07, 2011, 05:08:26 AM
They (Newegg) are not currently selling them, but within the past week they were.
That doesn't mean they are getting any more. A company that makes custom rigs went out of business and sold their stock. Now that newegg has sold all of the ones they purchased they most likely wont get anymore ever. Especially when you consider the 7xxx series is coming out soon which is two generations newer.
86  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5970 on: September 07, 2011, 05:06:09 AM
Theses are selling for $499 on Newegg  Shocked
No they're not? Newegg doesn't even have any 5970's for sale. I'd like you to point out any place currently selling them at 500.

buy.com
They don't sell for 500 dollars any more check your facts Wink. Plus I'm asking for bitcoins not cash.
87  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Lots of options for 6990's again on: September 07, 2011, 04:54:22 AM
Newegg seems to keep finding new stock of these cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150529
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127574
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102927

It seems weird shipments to newegg for the 6990 seemed few and far between in the past. Does this mean manufacturers are trying to get their stock out quickly so they can prepare for 7xxx cards?
88  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5970 on: September 07, 2011, 04:45:35 AM
I'm kind of curious why is this guy a scammer?
89  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: New 5850s for 13.8 BTC ($92.40) on: September 07, 2011, 04:41:16 AM
I'm pretty sure they're new. Hopefully hey are...I got 2x5870s on the way.
post a status update I might add this to my list of sites to watch.
90  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 5830 overclocking shortfall on: September 07, 2011, 04:40:02 AM
Apparently my card(s) doesn't support it I have never been able to use it although I have checked the box to unlock it.  Unless someone with the same card can correct me on that.  I might check out trixx.  I really like that Afb will put a GPU temp reading in the systray as I can see the temp at a glance by remoting into the machine without having to interact with the desktop.
I have found that trixx is much more reliable then afterburner but I feel the same way about the temp monitoring. My solution was to overclock with trixx monitor my temps with afterburner.
91  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: at 7$ per btc i need to pull the plug on: September 06, 2011, 10:10:54 PM
for me the electricity cost about 0,21€/KW that dont include VAT the monthly fee and other tax crap that make 30% of my bill
Ah that makes sense. .2938 (in usd) per kwh is extremely expensive. It sucks that the majority of Europe charges that much in electricity.
92  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5850s, 5870s, x16 riser, Custom Case and a Mobo on: September 06, 2011, 09:24:15 PM
trentz, you're being pretty shady here, trying to force a fire sale from someone based on a wording error. Obviously she didn't mean that she'd automatically accept any offer; otherwise someone could lowball her (like you did) and she'd have to ship them.

What she obviously meant from the context of that sentence was that any offers would be CONSIDERED.

What you're doing here is *so shady*, trying to take advantage of someone. But good luck enforcing the "contract" that you made, if you decide to continue being a (insert pejorative noun here).
While this isn't necessarily the best way to proceed. I believe his point is to drag her name through the mud unless she fixes her potential scam (which she has been ignoring). I like it and it will either get things done for the buyers or at the very least prevent her from selling here any more.

Plus its entertaining Cheesy
93  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5970 on: September 06, 2011, 09:05:48 PM
Theses are selling for $499 on Newegg  Shocked
No they're not? Newegg doesn't even have any 5970's for sale. I'd like you to point out any place currently selling them at 500.
94  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 5200 rpm delta fan on: September 06, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
Looks nice, how much would it be shipped to Belgium (Europe)?
pm'ing you an offer.
95  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: at 7$ per btc i need to pull the plug on: September 06, 2011, 07:56:12 PM
lol, yeah everybody is on 15c electricity, what a happy world. Except u r full of BS. My own electricity is 19c, and I'm in US. The poster ALREADY SAID $7 is his equilibrium point, guess what? now the price is $6.5, that means he's mining unprofitably if he's still mining, which makes my analysis completely correct. So unfortunately you are the one spewing BS.
I said the average is 15c which is true. It costs me 8.5 cents so people do live below the average. You and I are in the minority hence why I said 15. For the average American it still makes sense to mine.

Just to prove you wrong some more. Ill use the same calculations as before except switch 15 to 19c a kwh.

it requires 91 cents per day to run a 5830 at 19c per kwh
160.68/91=$176.51


You make .1867 bitcoins a day with a 5830.

(.1867*6.5)-.91=30 cents per day if you sell today
96  Economy / Goods / [WTS] 5970 ($425) on: September 06, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
I'm looking to sell my basically brand new 5970. It was bought off newegg about a week or two ago and I only used it once to make sure it worked. I tested overclocking it for about a minute at 850/300 and it worked perfectly.

One of these cards can easily pull 800+ megahash a sec. It's competition the 6990 can easily go for 850+ bucks so a 5970 is the way to go if your looking for mass megahash with little bulk.

I'm looking for bitcoins or cash. My asking price is $425 and this includes shipping to continental us.





Let me know if your interested.
97  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: at 7$ per btc i need to pull the plug on: September 06, 2011, 06:39:34 PM
For example:
to mine 30 btc, you'll need to pay $200 in electricity (roughly)

That's completely wrong. Let's take one of the most inefficient cards when it comes to electricity the 5830. A 5830 at most requires 200 watts and at the current diff it mines 0.1867 BTC a day. That means it would take 160.68 days to reach 30 btc. Using the average electricity cost for the united states which is 15 cents per kwh it would cost $115.69 dollars not $200.

If you use a more efficient card on electricity it would be even lower. If your electricity costs less then 15 cents per kwh it will be lower.

Get your facts straight before you start spewing bullshit.
98  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: NEW ATI 7000 architecture info on: September 06, 2011, 05:54:11 PM
Well it will at least reduce the cost of the existing 6000 series stock, 99$ 6870 might be the new 5830
Its not that it might be it will be. They are the same card basically once you even out that the 5830 gives a little more megahash and the 6870 requires less power. Only thing that makes a 5830 better is the price atm. The two you want to keep your eye on will be the 6870 and the 6950. If the price drops even 20% you will see 6870's at 120 and 6950's at 160.
99  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Contributors-only forum. on: September 06, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
What if it was a forum section where hero member are the only ones who have write access? I know there are some users who have hero member status that spam but we could use a strict set of rules to prevent spam. There could also be a white list where people who have proven themselves to be knowledgeable and helpful to the bitcoin community can join.
100  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 5830 overclocking shortfall on: September 06, 2011, 04:19:57 PM
Relax, in the long run you are better off staying away from the bleeding edge. i have some 5830's and i run them at 950 exactly as you are now, they could go up to 1000 but i prefer stability, also 310Mhash/s is very good for a 5830, that's 5850 territory.

You're an idiot if you think 311 is 5850 territory. That is the low end speed for non overclocked 5850. If you do a 900/300 overclock which is very moderate that's 375 megahash. 5850's can be pushed stably to 400 megahash.

huh. guess I got lucky and scored a good one. I thought all 5830s were good for an easy 1000+ on the core..
Sapphire tends to be a very reliable brand. I have 4 5830's total and each can do exactly what you say.
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