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801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 08:30:20 PM
United looked like an average team in both Copenhagen and Galatasaray matches. I would like to see a more obviously dominant game from Manchester United. They cannot perform this game. There is a possibility that they will lose points in the Copenhagen rematch and Galatasaray matches. It won't be a surprise if they don't make it out of the group.
Agree. This season, Man United performance is decreasing. It is not only in UCL matches, they also performed badly in EPL matches. So, they look like an average team both in UCL and EPL matches. I'm not very surprising to see their performance against Galatasaray and Copenhagen because that bad performance has started since the early season. There is something missing in Man United team this season.

Sure, if they get another defeat in the next matches, Man United is possible to be eliminated in the group stage. Galatasaray may finish in the second place, they looks better than Man United. Galatasaray will play at home against Man United in the next match, Man United has a chance to lose point in this match and in the match against Bayern Munich.

802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 24, 2023, 09:59:23 PM
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting has had good scores last season and when he was brought on, he often used his chance and scored a goal. But the fundamental difference was that Bayern Munich didn't have a real striker last season and they were desperately trying to find a solution that consisted of some variations of their pool of offensive players. But now that they have Harry Kane this problem has been solved once and for all and Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting only chance to get more minutes on the pitch would be when Harry Kane gets an injury. For as long as that doesn't happen, I don't think Tuchel considers Choupo-Moting except for games when Kane is given a break.
Bayern Munich signed Harry Kane, it means Bayern Munich assume Choupo-Moting isn't enough to be the main striker. He may be a good striker, but he is still not in the level of top strikers like Harry Kane. But it depends on him, it he accepts to be a substituted striker, he may choose to stay in Bayern Munich. But if he wants his career better, he is better to leave Bayern Munich for a regular playing. I doubt he won't be as well as in the last season if he too many spends time at the bench.

I think that at 34 years old he will certainly be an attraction for other teams if he chooses to leave in the winter transfer window. Even with a cheap release clause, it will of course be easy for teams who are not financially strong to reach. This season, of course, he is not Tuchel's main choice, so we often see him sitting on the bench.
Yep. His market value is quite cheap (only about €5m), it will be easy for any team to sign him.
I'm sure there will be some teams to try signing him in the next transfer window. Choupo-Moting will be more difficult to play because Bayern Munich has 4 players who can play in the striker position (Kane, Muller, Mathys Tel, Choupo-Moting).

803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: October 24, 2023, 09:51:48 PM
I bought some bitcoin at 26/27/30 and 31k. all profit so far, I am thinking about buying more, but is 35k te expensive to buy bitcoin?
You're talking about profits, have you sold your Bitcoin?  Undecided
Sure, when you bought them below the current price, you get the profits if you sell now.
But if your target is for selling at the bullrun season, you must hold them and not too early talking about the profits now.

Regarding your plan buying at $35k, I think it is like panic buying. You must understand that when Bitcoin can reach a new high price, it must drop again. The previous price was about $29k, so it is possible that the price drop again around $30k-$31k after it reached $35k today. If I were you, I prefer to see & wait first. I will decide to buy again after a few day, look at how the potential of the price to drop again.

DWYOR

804  Economy / Speculation / Re: "Mr. Bitcoin is about to go down big." - Jim Cramer on: October 24, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
he is a mad genius. I did a sale at 33333 today.
You're must be kidding, mate.  Grin
I think you're not a type of person who easily sell your Bitcoin.
Today, Bitcoin could pass $35k, and now it still survives around $33,7k. If you want to sell your Bitcoin, it should be around $34k-$35k. But I still assume you don't need to sell your Bitcoin, you probably hold until its new ATH. You're a long term investor, right?  Smiley

BTW, you sold at a unique price of 33333, how long did you place the order?
Maybe I will set a sell order at 111111,
Everyone can make a unique price for selling Bitcoin, it is easy. We just need to set the selling price with a certain number, it can be 33333 or 44444 or another else. However, I never think to sell with a unique price. I prefer to sell at the optimum price that looks possible for the next pump. I've heard about the possibility of Bitcoin to raise to $35k several days ago. So, I set the selling price around $34,xxx, today it was sold already.

805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 24, 2023, 09:24:30 PM
And in the end Al-Nassr was able to win the match again in the AFC Champions League. But in the second half everything became more tense. Because 6 goals from both teams came in the second half. The final score was 4-3 with victory of course for Al-Nassr. In this match CR7 scored 2 goals. And I'm happy that Mane also scored a goal in this match. Talisca seems like this player is always not behind in scoring goals. It's rare for an Al-Nassr match to pass without a goal from Talisca.
In the first half, Al Nassr was leading with 1 goal. There was no change until the first half was over. But in the second half, Al Duhail played more aggressively, they tried to equalize the scores. Although Al Nassr was leading with 3 goals, Al Duhail never give up, they scored 2 goals in minute 63' and 67'. They almost make Al Nassr to fail winning the match. But with Ronaldo's second goal in minute 81', no doubt Al Nassr secure 3 points in that match.

Ronaldo, Talisca, and Mane are 3 best attackers of Al Nassr. They always contributed for the goals. I see that they play more solidly, specifically after Mane joined Al Nassr.

Arab clubs really performed extraordinary in the AFC Champions League. But this is quite natural because the squad depth of the Arab teams is the best at the moment.
Indeed. It is not surprising that Arab teams dominated AFC Champions League. They have many top players, so we can understand if they can play better than the teams from the other countries.

806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 24, 2023, 08:58:31 PM
I was really happy to see Icardi in the starting eleven today. He scored a lovely penalty goal by a panenka as well.  Smiley  Galatasaray's performance was indeed incredible in the first half. But they must have maintained the same effort during the whole match. Because it was really working against Bayern Munich.
Galatasaray played well today, they were actually better if we look at the stats. They have done their best but Bayern Munich is in the other level. Bayern Munich showed that they were stronger in the second half. Although Galatasaray created more shot attempts, but Bayern Munich played more effectively. In the second half, Bayern Munich scored 2 goals to secure 3 points in this match. The final score: Galatasaray 1 vs 3 Bayern Munich.

I don't even think Tuchel is satisfied with their performance. Maybe they will finish the group stage in first place but this performance wouldn't be enough to be competitive for the title.
Yep. Tuchel feels unsatisfied with Bayern performance in the first half, that's why he changed the tactic in the second half. Bayern Munich played more offensively in the second half, they may play too defensively in the first half. Sure, if they played like in the first half, it is difficult for Bayern Munich to dream winning the title. But they showed us that they have the quality as one of the favorite teams to win UCL in the second half. So, I assume Bayern has the ability to be champion.  Wink

807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 23, 2023, 09:59:07 PM
I was just thinking Tottenham's performance would drop this season due to the absence of Harry Kane, but Tottenham is still performing well. Tottenham played against Fulham today, and they won the match 2-0, and they are now in the first position again. Even before the match started, I knew Tottenham would be maintaining its first position because I knew Fulham wouldn’t be a problem for Tottenham, and they played well, they were able to secure two goals in the match. Tottenham really deserves the win, they are performing above my expectations this season. Let’s hope they keep up with their good performance.
It is just our guess, in fact there is no a drop of Tottenham performance. They even can play more solidly because some new players can adapt quickly and they can fit into Tottenham's game style. Ange Postecoglou (the new coach of Tottenham) signed the right players to build Tottenham squad in the previous transfer window. I really appreciated what Ange Postecoglou has done with Tottenham squad.

In the match against Fulham, they could get 3 points to maintain the 1st place. It is not an easy match although they could dominate the match. Nevertheless, they could score 2 goals. Tottenham keep getting the positive results in EPL matches.

808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in new projects. on: October 23, 2023, 09:54:27 PM
For what purpose? What do you want to get out of, say BNB or XRP, within 5 years? Do you really believe that these coins will generate much more profit than bitcoin? No, they won't bring you that much profit, and if they have no clear advantages over bitcoin, why would you buy them? Why?
Why 5 years? The bullish-bearish cycle is 4 years.
The purpose is very obvious, we buy altcoins for the profits. I exclude XRP, meme coins, and stablecoins. I only choose potential altcoins such as ETH, BNB, SOL, MATIC, ADA, or DOT. I have experienced to gain profits from these altcoins in the last bullrun season (in 2021). According to may experience, the price increases of some altcoins can be more significant than Bitcoin. I think you know very well about this.  Wink

There is a point in buying altcoins only when their expected growth can greatly exceed that of bitcoin. Among the top altcoins there is no such thing.
I assume you must ever invest in those top altcoins.
It is not a fake issue that their prices can increase more than Bitcoin. Although not all top altcoins may experience it in the next bullrun season.

809  Economy / Economics / Re: Young people needs productive mindset to be happy in life on: October 23, 2023, 09:42:45 PM
Many young people are still not working because it is difficult to find jobs today, but even though it is difficult to find jobs they must move not just stand still until they get a job because later they will have their own responsibilities later. in my opinion work is very important because we must also have our own desires that we must realize. Because if they don't work for a long time but they are already adults, this will be a negative talk for the people around them. So the point is, I think there must be a good mindset for the future.
Those young people must be more creative and brave to manage own business. So, they don't need to look for jobs because the jobs become rarely days after days. Actually, it is not about the decrease of available jobs. But there are too many people who look for the jobs, so the available jobs aren't enough to fulfill the demands of job seekers.

Sure, we all need jobs to be the sources of our income. If young people are lazy and only rely on the available jobs, they may not work for a long time. Since the young people need to fulfill their own necessities, it is a serious problem if they can't get jobs. Too many jobless will trigger many problems, including the raising of criminal cases.

810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it better to invest or trade Bitcoin? on: October 23, 2023, 09:32:24 PM
Investing is long-term and involves low risk, while trading is short-term and involves high risk. Both methods can be profitable if the right strategy is adopted.
How big the risk will depend on the knowledge and experience of the investors/traders. Although investment is safer, it can be riskier if we don't have enough knowledge about it. Moreover, if we has a lack of experience in crypto investment. Meanwhile, trading can be safer if we know well how to trade properly. There are many day traders that can gain profits almost every day, they know how to gain profits effectively although the profits aren't really big.

Well, method will be adopted/applied based on the knowledge of the investors/traders. That's why it is required sufficient knowledge to know the wright method/strategy to apply.

Which one is better if I want to invest and trade bitcoins.
Both are good, many people do both investment and trading together. I think we don't need to choose which one is the best.
If we trade Bitcoin besides we invest in Bitcoin, we can get profits daily/weekly. We don't need to wait for few years to get profits. So, we don't feel bored to wait for the profits from Bitcoin investment only.


811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 22, 2023, 09:59:18 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo became a big hero for Al Nassr because he was able to bring Al Nassr to 3 points with the goals he created. This season he seems to have found his best form because he has helped Al Nassr a lot in every match. If Ronaldo is able to maintain his best form, it is likely that Al Nassr can easily take the top position from Al Hilal.
He became the hero for Al Nassr in many matches. Ronaldo often contributed with his goals, it leads La Nassr to win the match. Regarding his current performance, I agree that he performed better in this season. So far, Ronaldo already scored 11 goals, he is leading the top scorer table. If he can maintain his good form, he will be the top scorer in this season. He has a big chance, especially he also get a better support from his teammates after Al Nassr signed Mane. This good performance influences the position of Al Nassr on the SPL standings, they are now in the 3rd place. They still has a chance to win the SPL title.

The meeting between Al Nassr vs Al Hilal will take place in early December. I think this is a match that fans are really waiting for because it is a match that can change their progress in the standings. But yes, before that there are many matches that Ronaldo et al can take advantage of to achieve maximum results to continue to put pressure on the teams above them. Currently, Ronaldo is the top scorer in the Saudi Arabian league, ahead of Benzema and Firmino.
Of course, the match can be a crucial match to determine the chance for winning the title. AL Nassr needs to defeat Al Hilal to overtake the first place. But Al Nassr needs to keep winning every match to make sure there is no big gap between Al Nassr points and Al Hilal points. It is interesting although it won't be an easy challenge for Al Nassr.

812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 22, 2023, 09:55:39 PM
The final result of the match between Barcelona and Atletico Bilbao was 1-0 for Barcelona to win. Even though they played with a squad that wasn't the main team, this time, they did their best. Even though he had difficulty penetrating Bilbao's goal, in the end Marc Gulu was able to get the ball through to them and it became the only goal in the match. Even though they actually have quite big chances, as we know, Atletico Bilbao's defense is quite strong. With this result, the difference in points between Barcelona and the clubs above it is very small, so the competition in La Liga is truly competitive.
Yep. Barcelona won the match although they played with some substituted players. Even the score today was made by a substituted player (Marc Gulu). However, I can see a decrease of Barcelona attacking without Lewandowski, Raphinha, De Jong, and Pedri. If Barcelona used the same lineups when they play against Real Madrid in the next match, I doubt Barcelona can win the match. Let's expect those key players who are absent today, already recovered from their injured in the next match.

By the way, winning from Atletico Bilbao today, Barcelona gets 3 points and succeed to shorten the point difference with Real Madrid. Barcelona was lucky today since Real Madrid failed to win against Sevilla.

813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 22, 2023, 09:46:19 PM
If Bayern Munich really sells Choupo-Moting to the other teams and this player leaves Bayern Munich I think this can be a good option for any teams that need a good striker and they definitely will send an offer for Choupo-Moting.
We can't forget that in the last season, Byaern MUbich won many games just because of this player.
What is special with Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting? He is already 34 years old and he only made 1 goal from 7 appearances in the early of this season. I know he is just a substituted player in Bayern Munich, he rarely gets a chance to play. That probably makes him difficult to maintain good performance. However, there is no something really special with him so far, not sure top teams will be interested in him. The only special thing is that he has a cheap price (€5m), it is just a small money for a team that has big finance.

By the way, although Choupo-Moting contributed well in the last season, it can't guarantee that he will perform well again in this season. With his current perfromance, I doubt he will repeat his good performance in the last season.


814  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade only Bitcoin on: October 20, 2023, 09:00:57 PM
A person who trades in Altcoins also knows that Bits are the best for trading but they only trade in Altcoins with the hope of making some extra money.
What is Bits?  Huh
I don't think people will only trade with altcoins. Moreover, when they know that trading with Bitcoin will be safer. I'm sure most people trade both Bitcoin and altcoins, people don't want to miss the chance to gain profits from all the coins. But it is different when it is for a long term investment. There are people who only invest in Bitcoin because they only trust on Bitcoin for the long run.

There are many exchanges that list Altcoins on their exchange only to have them removed from the exchange only because they may be fraudulent.
The exchanges removed the altcoins because of many reasons. They may be scams, failed projects, rebranding coins/projects, or any other reasons. So, we can't conclude that the delisting because of scams or fraudulent cases only.

I think Bitcoin is one of the most reliable way to do business.
It is the fact. It is not only your perception.  Wink

815  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: October 20, 2023, 08:41:40 PM
Kalau menurut ane sih pergerakan harga naik btc baru-baru ini bukan karena prank atau persetujuan SEC yang akan datang, tapi karena momennya pengen naik aja. Karena btc itu setahu ane agak jinak-jinak merpati, orang-orang sering meng-cocok- logikan sesuatu ke harga bitcoin. Padahal, kalau kita lihat, walau itu prank, tah harga masih tetap stabil ke atas, kalau memang karena prank, dapat dipastikan harga btc akan langsung turun setelah orang mengetahui berita palsu tersebut.
Kalau dilihat-lihat, naiknya cukup signifikan (dari kisaran $28k ke $30k per hari ini). Tentu harus ada trigger yang bisa mendongkrak harga naik sekitar $2k dalam sehari. Yang paling gampang bikin harga up cepat itu yaitu faktor news. Jadi saya percaya jika harga naik hari ini tetap terkait ETF/SEC. Entah itu karena faktor berita yang digoreng kembali oleh media, atau karena statement orang terkenal, atau cuman karena berita hoax terkait itu. Namun sepertinya tidak salah jika menganggap itu masih ada kaitannya dengan ETF/SEC.

Setelah tahu informasi tidak valid, tidak serta merta menyebabkan level harga kembali ke semula, karena asumsi saya ada beberapa pelaku pasar yang memiliki optimisme jika ETF Bitcoin akan benar-benar mendapatkan approval dari SEC, sehingga mereka cenderung untuk melakukan hodl.
Atau memang karena ada whales yang nahan harga supaya tidak anjlok lagi. Karena kalau balik ke $28k, bisa saja turun lagi ke $27k atau $26k. BTW yang menarik menurut saya, bagaimana kalau nantinya proposal ETF tidak diapprove SEC? Apakah hype bullrun masih tetap bisa mendongkrak harga secara signifikan meskipun bakal ada keraguan terkait masa depan BTC?

816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 20, 2023, 08:26:44 PM
Having better squad depth than Sevilla will not guarantee that Arsenal will be able to beat Sevilla easily. Sevilla playing at home will certainly get direct support from their fan base and that will raise their enthusiasm to perform better to win points. Sevilla have not won a single match in the two matches they have played, so this will also be considered an opportunity.
Of course, there is no guarantee to win against Sevilla although Arsenal has a stronger squad. However, if we learned the stats of Sevilla in UCL currently, they looked in the bad condition. So far, they never won a single match, it means they are not as strong as we expected. Although Sevilla will play at home, I'm not sure that they can steal points from Arsenal. But there should be a place for a surprise, it is not impossible if the supports from their fans to give them more motivation. If they played with big motivation, they has a chance to get a draw result at least.

Sevilla was a strong team in Europe even though they mostly failed to progress far into the next phase. I believe Sevilla will strengthen its defense and develop the most deadly counter-attack strategy to beat Arsenal.
The current Sevilla squad was no longer the same as the previous Sevilla squad. It is clearly seen in the La Liga standings, they are just a mediocre team (an average team) now. They even failed to stay in the top 10, they are only in 14th now. So, it is difficult to expect their defenders or their attackers to play as strong as when they were in their best form. According to this matter, it is very doubtful to expect them to beat Arsenal.

817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 08:13:39 PM
Al hilal is playing really good in this match and created lots of chances but just isnt able to score that second goal to seal them the win. They scored in 75th minute but var cancelled it and this will make things a lot more intresting until the very end.
There is no problem that they can't score more than 1 goal. As long as they can win the match, it is enough for them. Their goal is to get 3 points, it is needed to maintain their position in the 1st place. The match is over, they succeed to secure 3 points in this match. Now, they are leading SPL with 3 point gap from the 2nd place (Al Taawoun). Al Hilal takes the advantage from the draw result got from the match Al Taawoun vs Al Ittihad.

Well, Al Hilal surely played well today, they made many shot attempts (20 shots). Once again, Mitrovic showed us that he deserves to be the mainstay striker for Al Hilal. In this match, he scored in minute 30'. So far, Mitrovic already scored 6 goals and 2 assists from 7 appearances. It is nice stats, he is in the second place for the top scorer in SPL now.

818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you ever feel tired of waiting? on: October 20, 2023, 07:48:11 PM
Yes, any investment takes time, not just bitcoin. So it can be said that waiting is part of the investment game, so only those who can wait longer will win and receive a worthy reward. I have not seen any investment or business model that can bring quick profits except gambling.
Correct. Investment requires the patient of waiting, it is a part of the success of an investment. That's why an investor needs to have a strong mentality, he mustn't be easy to be influenced by any FUD. Since it takes a long time, there must be so many challenges. We know that there are too many FUDs during the bearish season, it only ends when the bullrun is coming. Those people who have weak mentality, probably won't reach the bullrun season.

What if history doesn't repeat itself and bear season lasts longer?
So far, the history always repeats. Every 4 years, there should be a bullrun season when the price of Bitcoin increasing significantly after the BTC halving. But if the history doesn't repeat or the bearish season takes a longer time, I no doubt that true investors will keep holding their Bitcoin until the bullrun season. They won't care whether to hold 5 years, 6 years, or more.  Wink

Loss of patience, panic selling...all because of lack of knowledge, if an investor has enough knowledge, they will know how the market operates and will have a specific investment and holding strategy.
You're right. Knowledge and experience are the keys.
People who have sufficient knowledge and experience, probably understand how the market works. In this way, they won't feel panic whatever the FUDs is spreading nowadays.

819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to collect altcoins now or later? on: October 19, 2023, 09:20:24 PM
It will be pretty confusing if someone goes for the top 100 in the list of cryptocurrencies listed on CMC because when you go for choosing the altcoins you want to invest in, you will need to thoroughly evaluate the coins and tokens and the projects behind them so that you can choose the best ones and your investments don't go wasted. That's why, one should narrow down that list and then go for choosing how many they want for their investments.
Indeed. There are too many options if we consider the top 100 in CMC. Among the top 100, there are still many weak altcoins. It will be too risky for a beginner or for someone who has lack ability in analyzing the potential coins to invest in. Moreover, it will waste time if we analyze too many altcoins. So, I agree that we need to narrow the number of the altcoins. The top 25 is enough to be the option for a beginner. But make sure to ignore meme coins and stablecoins.

If the investor is a newbie, I would suggest they go for the top 20 or maybe 30 and evaluate each one of them very closely and research about them and see how they have been doing in the near past just to have an idea about their recent performance, and then choose the best ones among them.
Top 20 is enough, there are already many altcoins to choose. When I was a newbie, I only focus on the top 10. I don't think too invest in too many altcoins, it is enough to invest in 2-3 altcoins besides we invest in Bitcoin.

820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 19, 2023, 09:04:12 PM
Takefusa Kubo wants to return to Real Madrid if he gets playing minutes and if he returns just to warm up the bench, it looks like he doesn't want to return to Real Madrid. This will be quite a difficult decision but let's see next summer whether Takefusa Kubo will return to Real Madrid or not.
I think Takefusa Kubo is better to stay in his current club, Real Sociedad. He got enough time to play there, he becomes an important player in Real Sociedad squad. If he moves to Real Madrid, I doubt he can get enough time to play. He probably sits on the bench because he will be difficult to compete for the regular position. We know that Real Madrid has Rodrygo as the main right winger. They also have Arda Guler and Brahim Diaz that can play in the same position. When Rodrygo can't play, I assume Ancelotti prefer to choose Arda Guler or Brahim Diaz.

If I were him, it is easy to make a decision because Real Madrid never guarantees for a regular position. It is better to stay in Real Sociedad and try to be the main player there. He will have a chance to improve his quality when he gets enough time to play.

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