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801  Other / Off-topic / Re: Child Pornographers: I hope they die in agony [news article] on: August 04, 2011, 07:52:16 PM
A clarification of my OP: My strong reaction to this news story was not out of fear for my own children (although I do what I can to keep them safe). However, I believe that being a parent makes you more sensitive to violence against ALL children.

Also, I should perhaps disclose that my political and moral beliefs place me in a tiny minority here on this forum. I am an extremely right-wing bible-thumping intolerant evangelical Christian, and believe that any sex outside of heterosexual marriage is a sin. I love it when murders and rapists get the death penalty and I do what I can to see that unborn babies live. I would live in Texas if it wasn't so darn hot. I can't stand organic food (I miss the pesticides and hormones). I'm a wild-eyed Jesus freak, and I try to live my life in complete obedience to the Bible. I get annoyed because Republicans (and the tea party) are not conservative enough for my tastes. I'm that annoying goody two-shoes church-brainwashed killjoy who condemns your fun and tells you that you need Jesus to save you from your sins.

To many of you, I am the very face of evil, much more horrifying than the pedophiles in the article above.



A couple of bits of the bible that I am curious how you feel about.   The first is Acts 5, the second is Mathew 5:39

They both seem to be in contradiction to the Conservative approach, Acts 5 to the materialist approach that is opposed to taxes and Matt 5:39 to the harsh punishments approach.

I'm not Christian myself, but I am curious how someone who is very Christian reconciles these with Conservative beliefs.
802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: August 04, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
I work at a place that educates people on how to use their computers.  However computers are still very new, relatively speaking.   They did not gain widespread use until the 80's and the internet wasn't until the 90's, there are plenty of people who lived most of their lives without interacting with computers.

We do need to educate people in computer use, but it is unreasonably to expect everyone to be computer literate at this time.
803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: August 04, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
Bitcoin is something new.  Uncle Joe understands credit cards, but he doesn't understand the difference between good money or bad money.

That lack of understanding means Bitcoin is a hard sell, although with the performance of the markets it's getting easier and easier to explain it to him.



Joe may understand credit cards, you still can't pay him with one.  Paying him with bitcoin is about the same level of difficulty as paying him with paypal, but without the transaction fees.

You can pay me with credit cards - I have a card swipe and a smartphone... Then again I'm doubting I'm a good representative for "average" Wink

Yeah, you are definitely not computer illiterate uncle joe. 
804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: August 04, 2011, 07:12:07 PM
Bitcoin is something new.  Uncle Joe understands credit cards, but he doesn't understand the difference between good money or bad money.

That lack of understanding means Bitcoin is a hard sell, although with the performance of the markets it's getting easier and easier to explain it to him.



Joe may understand credit cards, you still can't pay him with one.  Paying him with bitcoin is about the same level of difficulty as paying him with paypal, but without the transaction fees.
805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never reach $20 again on: August 04, 2011, 06:54:03 PM
There is still no easy way for me to transfer bitcoins to my computer illiterate (and fictional) uncle Joe. Until then, not enough people care about collecting bitcoins. Maybe bitcoins can be this holiday season's big gift idea? ^^

Installing the bitcoin client isn't difficult,  yes, you'd have to walk Joe through it, but it is still a lot easier than paying him with a credit card.
806  Economy / Speculation / Re: damn... just sold all my btc for 8.7 and now it's 9.5 on: August 04, 2011, 06:10:07 PM

Selling BTC for dollars or buying goods with them is the same thing when it comes to the effect on the bitcoin price, because all traders immediately sell the BTC they get. So you'll crash the price in one way instead of another.

That is an inaccurate assumption.  Many traders hold onto their bitcoins or trade them for other goods.
807  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you willing to pay more taxes to pay down the national debt? on: August 04, 2011, 05:50:13 PM
I'd much rather see more money printed to pay down the national debt than to pay it down myself.

me too.  That would cause inflation and make my own debt less significant.

Fire up those printing presses.

Doesn't that depend on what type of debt you have?  Aren't some variable interest rates which means they can increase your interest rate to take into account inflation?

Mine aren't.  That does indeed depend, and IMO, anyone taking on a debt with an adjustable rate that they are not fully informed of is a fool.
808  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Internet privacy bill on: August 04, 2011, 05:38:58 PM
According to one of these articles this has already passed the house, according to the other it has not yet.  Do you know which is the case?
809  Economy / Economics / Re: Is this The Great Bitcoin Crash? on: August 03, 2011, 05:22:17 PM
Prices have dropped nearly 10% today, that's pretty big, but is it a crash?

I guess mining is about to become unprofitable so shit should stabilise as all the miners turn off their
pointless rigs?








Miners turning off their rigs will not slow down the amount of bitcoins being produced.  It will just make mining easier for those left in the game.  Miner's holding coins instead of selling immediately would push prices up.
810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Debt Deal Reached on: August 03, 2011, 03:37:09 PM
The problem is those paying at a much lower rate than us, even though they 'make' much more money and actually do much less work.

It's amazing that you can delude yourself into thinking that while you're paying $1,000 in taxes and I'm paying $100,000 in taxes somehow I'm getting a better deal and do less work than you. Just because I don't dig ditches or flip hamburgers doesn't mean the way I make money is any less work. In fact, if your job is so important, why are you making peanuts? Clearly the world values my labor more than yours, hence the fatter paycheck. If you didn't have people like myself that make most of the money, who would you leech off of?

And that is why I support any politician, no matter how distasteful, that supports an across the board flat tax with no deductions.

Flat tax is a joke. You pay 10% of nothing and I pay 10% of a million dollars. There's nothing fair about that. How about we each pay the same dollar amount, or better yet, pay for the services we actually use?

I like that last one, pay for the services you use.  The rich can pay for the cops, the courts, and the military.  The corporations can shoulder the lions share of infrastructure.  We should also include the fact that welfare keeps the masses from rioting/stealing, so the rich, who would be the ones hurt by the rioting and stealing can pay for that too.  Hmm, I think that leaves the middle and lower classes with consumer safety boards, a portion of infrastructure, and the FDA.
811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Debt Deal Reached on: August 03, 2011, 03:33:07 PM
If the majority of Americans cant get their richest 1% to give up tax cuts by november, they are officially the dumbest people on the planet.



Some tax increases should be included OR stopping the wars.  Killing people 1/2 the world away is expensive.  You need to go after some big ticket items to make the budget even close to balanced. 

Personally I would prefer AND.

I don't think this bill is going to make anything any better, but it is still preferable to a default.
812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you willing to pay more taxes to pay down the national debt? on: August 03, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
I'd much rather see more money printed to pay down the national debt than to pay it down myself.

me too.  That would cause inflation and make my own debt less significant.

Fire up those printing presses.
813  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Price Drop on: August 03, 2011, 02:19:45 PM
Bitcoin is just too difficult to use in daily life, especially that terrible account number which is constantly changing, will scare most of the users who is get used to a fixed bank account number in decades.

you can use the same account number every time if you so desire.  Changing your number is useful to know who has sent you money and also for anonymity.
814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil on: July 29, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
This is the whole mosque at ground zero debate all over again. The only reason it is being given mainstream coverage is because they are attempting to get people behind the war via peoples outrage in having an enemy front on US soil. This is another example of the US government allowing its people to be affronted and attacked in order to push thru a radical globalist agenda.

it's not,  the ground zero mosque is protected by the first amendment.  The Libyan rebels should not be setting up an embassy until they take control of the country.
815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: You Choose... on: July 29, 2011, 05:28:30 PM
no revenue increases in there huh?
816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 29, 2011, 05:21:12 PM
How about we consider the more sensible assumption that if one can protect themselves from any physical attack, kidnapping and therefore coercion one can also protect their property in the same fashion.  In the context of you proposal this is the logical extension, therefore making your question moot.

End of thread or modify your question to support a more common sense approach to the issue.

"However, consider for a moment what that would mean for property."

It seems to me that the libertarian/anarcho-whatever ideology hinges on a couple of key ideas. The most important in my view is that every individual has inherent rights to security, self-determination and property (unless of course that individual violates the rights of others).
I want you to consider a scenario: Imagine that every individual had the means to protect themselves from any physical attack, kidnapping and therefore coercion. This seems, in theory, to be the ideal for a libertarian. No one would be able to harm you and you also could harm no other individual; no violent crime of any nature could occur.

However, consider for a moment what that would mean for property. There would be no physical means to preventing theft, and property would only be able to exist as an agreement (Don't steal any of my shit and I won't steal yours). Would this reduce property to a theoretical idea that would not actually exist in practice?

You presume that those with property can protect themselves and those without property cannot.  For how can you protect property aside from by projecting force onto those that wish to take it?
817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it wrong... on: July 25, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
If you are currently under contract of any sort than suicide would be a breach of contract.

On a more moral level I think it is wrong if you have taken responsibility for caring for someone else, whether by having children or taking on the responsibility for someone who is handicapped.
818  Economy / Economics / Re: Bernanke is Wrong - Default will help the economy. on: July 25, 2011, 06:25:27 PM
I have no fear of the USA going broke. Sure prices will rise and the USD will become the next peso. So what? Simply demand higher remuneration for labor to make up for inflation.

What do you mean, 'so what'? I don't want all my services to cost more (heat, electricity, cell-phone, cable, etc) because of idiotic libertarian ideals.

The amount of dollars your services cost isn't what matters.  What matters is how long you have to work to make that money.
819  Economy / Economics / Re: Time Value of Bitcoin on: July 25, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
time value of bitcoins currently, for me, is that one minute is worth .05 bitcoins.  That's what I charge for readings.
820  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: selling $1000 worth of bitcoins. on: July 22, 2011, 09:34:48 PM
Buyer was found, the transaction is complete.
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