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821  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 14, 2011, 08:20:19 AM
The timetraveller eviction fix can be trivially copypasted from Geist Geld git.
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] call all the "time-travel in the blockchain" attack "Zeitgeist attacks" on: September 14, 2011, 08:18:49 AM
Not at this point, but should an actual proposal for a sufficiently versatile scheme emerge, I would definitely consider it.
823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
Made this one from the small icon in the scriptfolder.
Do you like the darker color?


Nifty, though I already sent you the bigger one.

I liked the first one color scheme more, and TBH the thing in the center is supposed to be the pupil so perhaps you could filter it differently ? (Am I being to nitpicky for 500 geists lol Smiley ? )
824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] call all the "time-travel in the blockchain" attack "Zeitgeist attacks" on: September 13, 2011, 11:39:03 PM
You gotta give exploits catchy names, lol Smiley

Does GG have plans to address the 51% exploit that exists?

You mean the Fundamental Exploit of 51% as described in Satoshi's paper or the "attacker with 51% screwing up diff without invalidating blocks"?

The former can be sort-of addressed with a clever implementation of licensed mining, I suspect, but that is my bellyfeel nothing more.

The latter is solved already, like, at the moment of reset.
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC is dead??? 0,0025$ per SC on btc-e.com on: September 13, 2011, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: Realsolid
Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).


Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

Well, RealSolid is the security expert in all things coin
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] call all the "time-travel in the blockchain" attack "Zeitgeist attacks" on: September 13, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
You gotta give exploits catchy names, lol Smiley
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [POLL] call all the "time-travel in the blockchain" attack "Zeitgeist attacks" on: September 13, 2011, 11:25:45 PM
Zeit is time in German

Relevance of Geist is, well, obvious  Cheesy

And it sounds nifty
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help!! Computer Failure (linked to geist geld??) on: September 13, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
What BN said.

Try switching the controller to IDE mode and see if that helps.
829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
It would be nice to a official client with GUI. I may want this into the project I'm developing.

Well, at some point there will be a semi-final GUI (probably waaay after signing is implemented), though Crutches makes for a bearable GUI replacement (and versatile in terms of easily implementing a "tab+batch" for the more unwieldy or just exotic functions, see Escrow tabs, for example)

I will make a Crutches for Namecoin after the whole "upcoming storm" thing resolves one way or another.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC is dead??? 0,0025$ per SC on btc-e.com on: September 13, 2011, 11:07:58 PM

My point 1 and very few seem to get it - The "Net Gain" could have been made without attacking a LIVE operational network.

Yes, it would be nice if floks just made pull requests with patches.

It would be also nice if Annie Cruz was in love with me.

Sometimes, life just gives you, well, lemons. And you have to figure out how to burn a house down with lemons Smiley

Thanking them is not a positive thing

I happen to be part of a culture  with very strong propensity for reciprocity and thus tend to thank people when they help. Simples-s! *sqeek!*

notably Gavin who IS the (?figure?) head of the bitcoin system

Um, no, Gavin is not the Bitcoin Queen Bee (Queen Bit?).

He's an awesome developer and a well-mannered person, but he isn't in "charge" of the "community" found within bitcointalk (Or did I just miss the Queen Bit election, folks ?!)

I have been no different with any *coin system yet created, worst thing I did was make a joke when I0Coin came out (see "RRCoin") and there I was mocking the same trollers who are making the same statements against your coin.  My questioning of your coin was in the spirit of "Eat where you sh** much" seeing as you have been verbally abusing other alt coins and supporting the BS of the day.

I only picked on Coinhunter, and even that after he made hilarious claims of "improved security" (Of which he had, and still has, none.), and even then I started quite polite and did my best to remain so until he went fully loco.



 I wish your coin the best of luck

Thanks

I won't partake, just as I don't partake in the I*Coin or Namecoin.

Sad

If you look at my non-enraged posts you will see I am generally a supporter of the altcoins and think they all make some (no matter how little) contribution to the community.  I DON'T think Bitcoin will be the top of the totem pole in the long run, bit I DO believe it has a long life (if this community gets less bored teenager and the leadership starts acting like leadership).

I think you should just take it easier.

Alt coins aren't yet as much srs business as Bitcoin, so it would be best if people treated them more lightheartedly.

I wonder why you don't partake in namecoin, it's by far the most innovative
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help!! Computer Failure (linked to geist geld??) on: September 13, 2011, 10:54:58 PM
Generally, it would be interesting to see if it behaves this way with other, known-good hard drives.
 
832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help!! Computer Failure (linked to geist geld??) on: September 13, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Hm, maybe a faulty motherboard ?

Did you try other SATA ports on the MB ?
833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alternative Block Chains : be safe! on: September 13, 2011, 09:55:58 PM
One would think that someone who even tries to code knows to rather not say such things to programmers, lol Smiley
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 09:51:49 PM
It seems to be due to many peers not bothering to do an ntp=1, and/or you managing to find yourself a "weird" ntp server for that particular request.

OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO TURN ON NTP

ntp=1

must be in the config.
835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
I can give it a try! Send the png pls?

Btw, my client says this on getinfo
 "errors" : "Warning: A majority of peers disagree with NTP time. Something is off here!"

And geistd shows a lot of ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=00000000f644a13bf23c

Okay, this is itchy...
836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC is dead??? 0,0025$ per SC on btc-e.com on: September 13, 2011, 09:46:30 PM
@ johnj - now that was one hell of a touché  Grin

Not sure how you think that, I have never professed nor do I want to be a leader around here.  I am no longer capable in being unbiased with several of the idiots running rampant around the forums here.

That I can relate to, though I suggest you take everything (including posted by me) somewhat more lightheartedly.

I'm waging a little war of principle simply, the community should not be going around praising mallicious attacks on live systems, this is not how real business operates...

At this point, I feel like asking for a compensation (100 GeistGeld would do) for the discomfort inflicted via making me shoot carbonated water (which I was drinking) through my nose.

I take it you never heard of, oh I dunno, the Fabulous Sony Rootkit ? Smiley
I know in the company I work for if we attacked our customers live systems they wouldn't do business with us anymore.

Well, good to know that, though technically, it is somewhat hard to draw a direct parallel due to apparent lack of customers in case of parties carrying out the acts in question.

  Secondly, who was the "queen bee" that said thou shalt only have bitcoin and no others, that is narrow minded and incredulous. 

I made no such claim, though I do understand that other parties have, and might even believe that strange idea.
Bitcoin could learn a lot more by having several functioning live systems which are testing different operating parameters and economic models than allowing them to be attacked into the ground.

Well, that's the reason why I created GG (that, and the dream of running my very own "quasi-pseudo-kindasorta money laundering setup" on the internet), though I don't believe one could seriously hope to take the "attacks" out of the equation.

Consider this - attack on GeistGeld has granted the community a straightforward way to trump various "timetraveller invasions" before a more dramatic application of "timetravell" has emerged. In the end, a net gain has resulted.

  And lastly the unfounded attacks on people that are actually out there "doing" something productive with their time.

If you want people to attack Geist Geld day in and day out, fine whatever, go get your jollies off on it, I don't care, just warn your users that your coin is an attackers play toy so they can take precautions if they want to take part.

Um,  do you honestly think that I could discourage the attacks by making a condemnatory statement, or  my immense force of will ? Smiley
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 09:28:06 PM
We can all keep track of the 7,000,000 coins and I guess that Lolcust knows his coin is history if he rips us off.

The most horribly evil thing I could do without ruining Geist (and thus the Superfund, and the Laundry which I so dearly hope to create) is to sell off enough Geist to buy meself a keg of beer and hire a hooker (and get "investigated" for "suspicious buying patterns" by the honorible police of my glorible  president Smiley )

BTW, assuming Geist doesn't choke on blocks or something equally terrible, in less then a year  Superfund (the entire thing, both laundry and the bounty and the "small things") won't look that Super (it will still be somewhat  impressive, but given the upper bound for total number of Geists in the hundreds of billions and demonstrated capacity for sustained operation, not that zomghuge as it might seem now).

  I am thus mildly concerned that I have, in fact, premined too little a sum to get a decent laundry going Sad

Got a little creative and made this!
Applying for artwork bounty lol


Hm, if you "emboss" the "sorta-official Geistgeld logo" on it (You can see the small version in the background of windows bundle, file itself is in the Data/scripts folder of the bundle, but I can send a large-ish PNG if needed), I will part with about 500 Geists Smiley

Sorry, I just am somewhat less-than-rationally attached to the logo I've cobbled together from stuff and recycled stuff while waiting for the first build to compile ^__^
838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 09:13:19 PM

Seems to be a promotion of attacking a live system to me....  I certainly wouldn't thank Artforz or BTCExpress for attacking a live system you actually want people to invest time and resources into, they can test things offline and still provide fixes for you.

Difference between "thanks for attacking" and "thanks for fixing it up" Smiley
839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 08:51:41 PM

+1 Agreed. Lolcust needs to setup a circle of trust with community members to hold those 7,000,000 coins in a decentralized manner.

As soon as Geist gets Contract code, I will seek out a way to manage the bounty + faucet (-beer +vodka + hookers +cigar Wink ) part via an open, publicly accountable decentralized management system it presents.

Managing the Laundry Buffer in such a manner seems... problematic (and I am attached to the idea of starting a "squeaky clean laundry that can help cleaning any coins as long as they can be converted to Geist and Back")

I trust him but what's to say that he gets pissed off like coinhunter and decides to do something rash?

Um, print out the part of the blockchain that "contains" the Superfund and wrap it around my genitals, screaming "behold the mighty lolopenis!!!" ? Roll Eyes

What exactly can you do with 4-7 mil of any neo-coin except use them as a buffer in a laundry-like system or veeeryyyy slooooowwwwlllyyyyyy spend them (and again, the wisest spending is that on project itself, since it makes the remaining coins increase in functionality and perceived value) ?

There is no chance in hell of selling-off even a fraction of that in one go, and if you have to sell them sloooowwwwwlllllyyyyy (veeeeryyyyy) you may as well start slowly spending them to convince people to contribute useful code (increasing the value of whatever remains and benefiting the community at large due to the whole open-source thingie Smiley )

So you are starting a formal money laundering scheme?

Depends on whether your jurisdiction recognizes "digital coinsis" as money.

Mine would beat me to the death for having this conversation, so I may as well start "laundering" abstract mathematical constructs.

You pre-mined with NO effort involved 7 mil coins and the community is to just trust your word on what you are using it for?

Due to the size of Superfund, it has virtually no other use.

You are promoting attacks on your system that you actually want users to adopt... so they can feel more secure in their financial/time investments..?

Errrr... now I lost ya.

Where did I "promote" an "attack" on Geist ?   Huh

You are planning new features that you can't develop on your own and the only hope is to bounty with a coin that currently has no value?

I do contemplate investing some USD into it, but there aren't much USD I can throw at a coin without facing Dire Secondary Consequences Wink

I also hope that some people will just implement stuff into Geist because they've got this cool idea nobody (especially not Lolcust) ever thought about, but yes, I do intend to post large bounties on Geist features (stuff such as thin clients and blockchain optimizations that later could be ported to other chains) in hopes that some devs will consider it worth a stab.
840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld on: September 13, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
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So instead of being open and telling people about your 7 mil pre-mined coins, you expect people to deduce that you mined some coins by the fact that you said "bounty" and using "100% squeaky clean" coins. Well, bounty coins can be mined after the coin has been published.

Um, so far, this approach has not even been tested, let alone demonstrated.

Besides, I think that somewhere later on I said I was "giving away everything except the Laundry and Bounty fund".
You purposely did not mention that you pre-mined 7 million coins because you knew people would not mine your coins if you did that. Tell me that's not true.

Not so much "wouldn't mine" (everyone and his dog can plainly see that the only use millions of Geists could have is 1) Binding them in a huge laundry 2) slowly, very slowly spending them, with a solid chunk being spent on the project itself (so that the utility, and thus price, of the remaining Geists would rise) but "would start a 10 page long discussion about how to best manage the Fund and how large a buffer does Lolcust Laundry need to server an order of laundering 500 000 bitcoins through GeistGeld instead of addressing technical issues which are of far greater importance.

People mined IxCoin after all, and I don't remember ixCoin dude setting up a Really Huge laundry (or even intending to do so), or even bothering to pre-mine his rations in a manner that places minimum burden on the chain, thus I don't expect people to run away screaming because of Fund.

I do expect it to be a potent flame vector, though.
I don't doubt that you have good intentions with those 7 mil pre-mined coins. But hiding information is not a good way to go about it and it definitely hurt the trust people have in you and your coins now.

I wasn't explicitly hiding it though - in fact, relevant commands can be found in the config in plaintext, and given how every-single-coin (except namecoin maybe?) premined, I honestly did not expect people to even entertain but a single doubt that I did premine.

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