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8221  Other / Off-topic / Re: [s]5[/s] [s]4[/s] [s]3[/s] [s]2[/s] 1 More Day[s]s[/s]! on: June 27, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Tomorrow's the big day.

You guys got any plans?
8222  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Official "First Word that Comes to Mind" Thread on: June 27, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
Nod

rem
8223  Other / Off-topic / Re: PayPal Is Launching an Interplanetary Payments Service on: June 27, 2013, 06:09:32 PM
If Paypal also adopt bitcoin, the price will go through the roof, and the sky, and to other planets....


http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/27/paypal_galactic_buzz_aldrin_seti_announce_outer_space_payments_service.html

PayPal brought in astronaut Buzz Aldrin on Thursday to announce the launch of PayPal Galactic, an initiative to figure out a way for people to pay each other while traveling in space or living on other planets.

No, it isn’t a joke. And while it may sound like a publicity stunt, both Aldrin and PayPal president David Marcus promised that it’s also a genuine business proposition—albeit one that remains some years away.

"It’s not unrealistic to predict we’re only a generation away from a permanent human presence on Mars,” said Aldrin, who became the second man on the moon during the Apollo 11 mission in 1969. He added, “Whether it’s paying a bill or even helping a family member on Earth, we’ll need access to money.”

PayPal’s Marcus said the program, launched in partnership with the SETI Institute, would “increase public awareness of the important questions that need to be addressed” as commercial space travel increases. “We may not answer these questions today or even this year, but one thing is clear: We won’t be using cash in space.” John Spencer of the Space Tourism Society predicted that the first “space hotels” will open up shop within the next decade, and will need a payments system.

It’s not a bad idea for PayPal to get in on the ground floor. But that doesn’t mean the company won’t have competition once space commerce gets going. Skip Smith, the former head of space law for the Air Force, told The Verge’s Casey Newton that most people today pre-pay for goods and services while they’re still on the ground. But he said that credit cards could be an option if and when space hotels become a reality:

"Once you're up there, if you want to buy an extra bottle of champagne, they can probably run that on your charge card," Smith said. But longer stays in orbit, and the colonization of new planets, will make that more difficult. Eventually, he said — maybe 20 years from now — new solutions will need to emerge.
Space tourism is already happening on a small scale, with Space Adventures leading wealthy private citizens on trips to the International Space Station, and Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic getting into the game. But the real money in the next couple of decades could be in deep-space mining, where startups like Planetary Resources and Deep Space Industries are looking to drill into asteroids for precious metals and other booty.

If this is indeed the beginning of a new gold rush—or platinum rush—it makes sense that PayPal, a company co-founded by SpaceX’s Elon Musk, would be there to capitalize. It’s a big universe, but when it comes to the people with the means and vision to explore it, it’s actually a pretty small world.


Another guy comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
8224  Other / Off-topic / Re: Two people missing at BFL! Last seen last year. on: June 27, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
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Joshua Wayne Ryan Gacy, direct descendant of John Wayne Gacy. The missing employees are in the floorboards. Please notify local authorities.

That would explain why BFL never pulled any permits when they revamped their new facility.

In fact, I'm willing to bet 100 BTC that no proof can be shown that BFL pulled a permit.

I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that as of yesterday, no BFL miners have yet to be submitted to the FCC for certification.

I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that BFL has yet to get UL certs.

I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that BFL has yet to get CE certs.
8225  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Street Art aka Memetic Design on: June 27, 2013, 05:42:52 PM
depict the value of a dollar over time vs a bitcoin over time

today:$1 buys you a banana
10 years from now, $2.50 buys you a banana

etc

But don't do milk! I read a receipt the other day I got from Walmart back in 1997. Milk was $1.99. Two days ago I paid $1.89, with it being in the $1.99 range for the past year and a half.
8226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [JUST FOR FUN] Newspaper Headlines on: June 27, 2013, 02:27:10 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto Comes Outta the Closet - Dances Jig on Coffee Table
8227  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pick my new Avatar on: June 27, 2013, 01:46:43 AM
8228  Other / Off-topic / Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 27, 2013, 01:42:22 AM
Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?

That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months.

You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Best minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point!

Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the
founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve.
Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys
subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two
separate internationally recognized jurisdictions.

The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995.

And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of  Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself....

The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time.
8229  Economy / Speculation / With Gold & Silver tumbling, will investors seek out Bitcoin as a hedge? on: June 26, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/06/26/gold-plunged-to-three-year-low/2460251/

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The price of gold Wednesday fell up to 4.2% to $1,224.18 an ounce, the lowest level since Aug. 24, 2010, says Bloomberg News. Gold is down roughly 23% this quarter, positioning the metal for its largest quarterly loss since 1920. Meanwhile, the price of silver is down to its lowest levels since August 2010. Wednesday, silver fell as much as 4.7% to $18.64 an ounce.

8230  Other / Off-topic / Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 26, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
I just tried calling Peter.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020328222408/http://www.pkoppelaw.com/

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Peter J. Koppe
Attorney-At-Law
6730 NW Tower Drive
Platte Woods, Missouri 64151
email: pkoppe@pkoppelaw.com

Telephone (816) 587-5300
Pager (816) 346-6466
Fax (816) 587-5336

Family Law, Criminal Defense, Personal Injury, Torts, Traffic Law

Peter J. Koppe, born Cincinnati, Ohio, May 3, 1950, admitted to Missouri Bar, 1977, U.S. Supreme Court, 1983
Education: Washington University-St Louis, Mo (A.B. History 1972) University of Missouri-Kansas City (J.D. 1977)
Member: Northland Optimist Club, Kansas City, 1980 Governor, West Mo. District, Optimist Internation, 1988-89,
Chairman, Developmental Disabilities Board, Clay County, Mo, 1994, Member 1992-94

But he no longer uses that number...because...

http://ssdmf.info/by_birthdate/19500503.html

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PETER J KOPPE was born 03 May 1950, got Social Security number 500-52-2226 (indicating Missouri,) and died 06 July 2006.

I guess I'll just add him to the list currently containing Sonny K. and Ninja Lady. Soon, they're be as many on this list as there are on a similar list related to Laissez Faire City. Maybe Sonny K. and NL can be found below the same bridge that two founders of LFC used to end it all.
8231  Other / Off-topic / Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 26, 2013, 06:01:00 PM
Maybe we should call Peter and see if it has meaning.
8232  Other / Off-topic / Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 26, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?

All the pieces are starting to fit together now.
I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly?

Humor me, and pretend this does have meaning, but...
8233  Other / Off-topic / Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 26, 2013, 05:31:06 PM
Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?

All the pieces are starting to fit together now.
8234  Other / Off-topic / Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! on: June 26, 2013, 05:20:40 PM
http://businessprofiles.com/details/gregory-w-vleisides-p-c/US-MO-P00257304

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GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. was formed on 1983-10-20 in Missouri by PETER J. KOPPE.

FORMATION
Universal ID
US-MO-P00257304

Name
GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C.

Registration Number
P00257304

Type
Professional Corporation

Formation Date
1983-10-20

OFFICERS
Registered Agent
PETER J. KOPPE

https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/corp.asp?214213

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Business Name History
Name   Name Type
BUSINESS BROKERS PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS, INC.   Legal
General Business - Domestic - Information
Charter Number:   00233440
Status:   Forfeited
Entity Creation Date:   8/5/1981
State of Business.:   MO
Expiration Date:   Perpetual
Last Registration Report Filed Date:   
Last Registration Report Filed:   0
Registration Report Month:   August
Registered Agent
Agent Name:   PETER J. KOPPE, ESQ.
Office Address:   25 EAST 12TH STREET-11TH FLOOR
KANSAS CITY MO 64106

https://bitpay.com/featured-merchants

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ButterflyLabs.com
25 E 12th Street
Kansas City, MO 64106
8235  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 26, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

It being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls.

I guess that makes me a Google-fu conspiracy nut.
8236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Neighbor says bitcoin is a ponzi scheme on: June 26, 2013, 06:09:09 AM
I still don't know what it means. I could use google, but for the sake of conversation, I'll wait for an answer here

Somehow, I don't believe you, considering you penned the following:

Bitcoin isn't really an accepted form of currency. By accepted, I mean believe that it's legitimate. It's going to take time. Try not to forget what money really is. It's the flow of goods and services. When the quantity of people that use it goes up, the economy will improve be. I'd rather have a volatile currency than hyperinflation which puts the future generations in debt

I'm pretty sure you know what a Ponzi scheme, but wanted to plead ignorant of the subject to further some agenda. What's your next thread going to be? What is exactly fiat money? I could Google it, but I'd rather have a discussion on it.

BTW, who is Sean Arce? I could Google it, but opted to asked.
8237  Other / Off-topic / Re: I Have a DREAM!!!! on: June 26, 2013, 05:51:41 AM
...
  And when they got there,
  The shelves were all bare!
Thus, not all dreams come true.

8238  Other / Off-topic / Re: Two people missing at BFL! Last seen last year. on: June 26, 2013, 05:43:00 AM
John Wayne Gacy IS BFL?!

Pretty close! Two people missing, and they've yet to provide a statement. Rumor has it that at least one person at BFL has been donning clownware.

8239  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Open letter to Theymos regarding Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 26, 2013, 03:39:56 AM
BFL probably already spent a very large proportion of the preorder money on R&D. If this is the case, they won't have much incentive to run away. They'll make more money by successfully delivering the product and then selling more.

Exactly! Finally, you see the light! BFL is spending their profits to successfully deliver product so that they can do it all over again. It's this madness that I, among others, are trying to put a halt to.

<s/ off>
8240  Other / Off-topic / Re: [s]5[/s] [s]4[/s] [s]3[/s] 2 More Days! on: June 26, 2013, 03:07:44 AM
Two more days plus >2 hours.

Be there, or be square!
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