Tomorrow's the big day.
You guys got any plans?
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If Paypal also adopt bitcoin, the price will go through the roof, and the sky, and to other planets.... http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/27/paypal_galactic_buzz_aldrin_seti_announce_outer_space_payments_service.htmlPayPal brought in astronaut Buzz Aldrin on Thursday to announce the launch of PayPal Galactic, an initiative to figure out a way for people to pay each other while traveling in space or living on other planets. No, it isn’t a joke. And while it may sound like a publicity stunt, both Aldrin and PayPal president David Marcus promised that it’s also a genuine business proposition—albeit one that remains some years away. "It’s not unrealistic to predict we’re only a generation away from a permanent human presence on Mars,” said Aldrin, who became the second man on the moon during the Apollo 11 mission in 1969. He added, “Whether it’s paying a bill or even helping a family member on Earth, we’ll need access to money.” PayPal’s Marcus said the program, launched in partnership with the SETI Institute, would “increase public awareness of the important questions that need to be addressed” as commercial space travel increases. “We may not answer these questions today or even this year, but one thing is clear: We won’t be using cash in space.” John Spencer of the Space Tourism Society predicted that the first “space hotels” will open up shop within the next decade, and will need a payments system. It’s not a bad idea for PayPal to get in on the ground floor. But that doesn’t mean the company won’t have competition once space commerce gets going. Skip Smith, the former head of space law for the Air Force, told The Verge’s Casey Newton that most people today pre-pay for goods and services while they’re still on the ground. But he said that credit cards could be an option if and when space hotels become a reality: "Once you're up there, if you want to buy an extra bottle of champagne, they can probably run that on your charge card," Smith said. But longer stays in orbit, and the colonization of new planets, will make that more difficult. Eventually, he said — maybe 20 years from now — new solutions will need to emerge. Space tourism is already happening on a small scale, with Space Adventures leading wealthy private citizens on trips to the International Space Station, and Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic getting into the game. But the real money in the next couple of decades could be in deep-space mining, where startups like Planetary Resources and Deep Space Industries are looking to drill into asteroids for precious metals and other booty. If this is indeed the beginning of a new gold rush—or platinum rush—it makes sense that PayPal, a company co-founded by SpaceX’s Elon Musk, would be there to capitalize. It’s a big universe, but when it comes to the people with the means and vision to explore it, it’s actually a pretty small world. Another guy comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
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Joshua Wayne Ryan Gacy, direct descendant of John Wayne Gacy. The missing employees are in the floorboards. Please notify local authorities. That would explain why BFL never pulled any permits when they revamped their new facility. In fact, I'm willing to bet 100 BTC that no proof can be shown that BFL pulled a permit. I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that as of yesterday, no BFL miners have yet to be submitted to the FCC for certification. I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that BFL has yet to get UL certs. I'm also willing to bet 100 BTC that BFL has yet to get CE certs.
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depict the value of a dollar over time vs a bitcoin over time
today:$1 buys you a banana 10 years from now, $2.50 buys you a banana
etc
But don't do milk! I read a receipt the other day I got from Walmart back in 1997. Milk was $1.99. Two days ago I paid $1.89, with it being in the $1.99 range for the past year and a half.
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Satoshi Nakamoto Comes Outta the Closet - Dances Jig on Coffee Table
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Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?
That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months. You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usBest minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point!
Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve. Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two separate internationally recognized jurisdictions.
The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995.
And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself.... The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time.
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I just tried calling Peter. http://web.archive.org/web/20020328222408/http://www.pkoppelaw.com/Peter J. Koppe Attorney-At-Law 6730 NW Tower Drive Platte Woods, Missouri 64151 email: pkoppe@pkoppelaw.com
Telephone (816) 587-5300 Pager (816) 346-6466 Fax (816) 587-5336
Family Law, Criminal Defense, Personal Injury, Torts, Traffic Law
Peter J. Koppe, born Cincinnati, Ohio, May 3, 1950, admitted to Missouri Bar, 1977, U.S. Supreme Court, 1983 Education: Washington University-St Louis, Mo (A.B. History 1972) University of Missouri-Kansas City (J.D. 1977) Member: Northland Optimist Club, Kansas City, 1980 Governor, West Mo. District, Optimist Internation, 1988-89, Chairman, Developmental Disabilities Board, Clay County, Mo, 1994, Member 1992-94 But he no longer uses that number...because... http://ssdmf.info/by_birthdate/19500503.htmlPETER J KOPPE was born 03 May 1950, got Social Security number 500-52-2226 (indicating Missouri,) and died 06 July 2006. I guess I'll just add him to the list currently containing Sonny K. and Ninja Lady. Soon, they're be as many on this list as there are on a similar list related to Laissez Faire City. Maybe Sonny K. and NL can be found below the same bridge that two founders of LFC used to end it all.
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Maybe we should call Peter and see if it has meaning.
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Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?
All the pieces are starting to fit together now.
I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly? Humor me, and pretend this does have meaning, but...
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Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?
All the pieces are starting to fit together now.
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http://businessprofiles.com/details/gregory-w-vleisides-p-c/US-MO-P00257304GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. was formed on 1983-10-20 in Missouri by PETER J. KOPPE.
FORMATION Universal ID US-MO-P00257304
Name GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C.
Registration Number P00257304
Type Professional Corporation
Formation Date 1983-10-20
OFFICERS Registered Agent PETER J. KOPPE https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/corp.asp?214213Business Name History Name Name Type BUSINESS BROKERS PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS, INC. Legal General Business - Domestic - Information Charter Number: 00233440 Status: Forfeited Entity Creation Date: 8/5/1981 State of Business.: MO Expiration Date: Perpetual Last Registration Report Filed Date: Last Registration Report Filed: 0 Registration Report Month: August Registered Agent Agent Name: PETER J. KOPPE, ESQ. Office Address: 25 EAST 12TH STREET-11TH FLOOR KANSAS CITY MO 64106 https://bitpay.com/featured-merchantsButterflyLabs.com 25 E 12th Street Kansas City, MO 64106
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Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_lawIt being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls. I guess that makes me a Google-fu conspiracy nut.
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I still don't know what it means. I could use google, but for the sake of conversation, I'll wait for an answer here
Somehow, I don't believe you, considering you penned the following: Bitcoin isn't really an accepted form of currency. By accepted, I mean believe that it's legitimate. It's going to take time. Try not to forget what money really is. It's the flow of goods and services. When the quantity of people that use it goes up, the economy will improve be. I'd rather have a volatile currency than hyperinflation which puts the future generations in debt
I'm pretty sure you know what a Ponzi scheme, but wanted to plead ignorant of the subject to further some agenda. What's your next thread going to be? What is exactly fiat money? I could Google it, but I'd rather have a discussion on it. BTW, who is Sean Arce? I could Google it, but opted to asked.
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... And when they got there, The shelves were all bare! Thus, not all dreams come true. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftoyreport.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2Fempty-store-shelves.jpg&t=662&c=fY-F5wl4KfwXBQ)
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John Wayne Gacy IS BFL?!
Pretty close! Two people missing, and they've yet to provide a statement. Rumor has it that at least one person at BFL has been donning clownware. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bilder-hochladen.net%2Ffiles%2Fk9l5-1n-66f0.jpg&t=662&c=r0T94rLAEu4aWQ)
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BFL probably already spent a very large proportion of the preorder money on R&D. If this is the case, they won't have much incentive to run away. They'll make more money by successfully delivering the product and then selling more.
Exactly! Finally, you see the light! BFL is spending their profits to successfully deliver product so that they can do it all over again. It's this madness that I, among others, are trying to put a halt to. <s/ off>
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Two more days plus >2 hours.
Be there, or be square!
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