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8221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: April 10, 2017, 04:36:30 PM
Well, even if you think that gambling doesn't have any bad impact to you yet it is a very good decision to stop while you can still control yourself or you are not getting addicted to it and think for a good outcomes because of it . Actually, gambling is not a bad habbit but we are making a reason to make it that way and we are the one who ruin our life not gambling . You know when you need to quit gambling once you find yourself getting upset and frustrated after a single loss .

its always good decision if we stop because of our family so we don't have to gets loss more money in gambling games. for me, playing gambling is like to get fun and if we only loss then we can just thinking that we are not loss for our money but we only spend our time to enjoy the games.
8222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: April 10, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
Gambling is gambling,gambling is all about losing big or small money no matter who you are and what is your state in life.There is no sure win formula or side in gambling,all may go against your odds.Even the highest percentage may fail Smiley
Then why not we say that trading is better than gambling ? Almost every gambler faces losses at the end of the day still people not ready to give up gambling. I am not going to say trading is the better and only way for profit making, still comparing to gambling, trading is much better in many aspects.

Keeping gambling for entertainment and trading for earning money will be the right choice and I'm doing trading and gambling for these purposes.
Not only you most of the people do like this including me, but I also play gambling to kill my free time and to have fun and entertainment, for this, I am ready to spend some of my coins. And Trading is my business to make a profit from Bitcoin. In trading we will not get any fun, this is completely a business, and if we become a pro in trading we can make a huge profit.
How do you study on trading? I would really love to learn how to spend my coins the right way and trading is one of those things that I think that is worth it. Trading could probably pave the way to financial freedom of some sort.

i think we can learn from many ways like youtube videos, read ebook that related with trading, and after that, if we are ready to practice then we can start to join in the market and we can trying to analyze the coins that we want to buy. but remember, you need to use your skill before you bought the coins and make a good analysis.
8223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins that might survive in the future? on: April 10, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
actually i am too confuse to say what altcoin that might survive in the future because every altcoin have the same opportunity as long as the dev and the team and the community is solid to give support the altcoin. because without this, the coins will not survive for a long time and its only for short time. i think in my opinion, i will choose the coins with the base of ethereum but i am not saying that only ethereum that will survive.
8224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: April 10, 2017, 04:27:28 PM
What are some the more idiotic and stupid mistakes that you know you shouldn't have made but did anyway. Yes this includes other none gambling stuff like sending btc to the wrong address. I'm interested to find out the stupid things other people do.  Roll Eyes

Gambling is the mistake.

Any wise man would know this...fortunately for the vultures...greed brings many fools to the table.

Its not a mistake for your information. Gambling totally depends on how you want to earn money from or keep it to a safe mode recreation and some fun. Going to gamble is not a mistake, rather its an experience how one person can get greedy and end up losing a lot at a casino. They may recover quickly and make sure never to gamble again or they can go broke. So it totally depends on your own choice whether you want to gamble or not.
that kind mindset are the only thing make every single action in gambling can be a mistake. people should know that gambling aren't a mistake and realize there is something wrong with your own thought about this opinion , don't blame gambling but blame yourself and your brain.

a lot of people can not control their action to gamble , and it was the real mistake that we should talking.

if people getting loss in gambling, i am sure that they will blame gambling because they are losing much of money but if they can thinking that is the risk for playing gambling then they will not blame this. i think if we are in loss or win, we should make correction to ourself that we don't playing gambling to often because we can not always win but we can get loss much of money and we should know this.
8225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if someday the network internet totally dead . on: April 10, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
what if someday when bitcoin has become the main payment instruments in the world. and how when the Internet network paralyzed. it means that we all can not perform various financial transactions? , is there any solution ?

i think the only solution that we can use is still using fiat to pay our financial transactions because money can help us to buy something or pay our expenses. but for online transaction, i think we can not use properly and even the transaction is abandoned as we need internet to send the transaction.
8226  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: April 10, 2017, 04:20:41 PM
Bitcoin is not going to replace fiat for most people but without a doubt there may be some bitcoin users out there that are not using fiat anymore and are only using bitcoin right now.

I don't think that it is possible only to use bitcoins as to take care of our expenses in real world we need fiat and bitcoin cannot be used anywhere for buying anything so in that case we have convert our bitcoins to fiat currency so that we can use them for shopping.

i agree because to search local store that accepting bitcoin in every country is not easy and only few country that allow us to use bitcoin for the payment. i think we can use bitcoin to pay our expenses in future when bitcoin is know globally and more people is using bitcoin and there are many store accepting bitcoin.
8227  Economy / Gambling / Re: suggest me top beting site??? on: April 10, 2017, 04:17:43 PM
my list is :

1. fortunejack
2. yolodice

i am trying with other site but i think i am usually play with i write as my list. sometimes i am trying with new site as i am curious with what they offers. before you place a bets, i hope you can decide how much you want to use for playing gambling and you can make decision in how much you use the money because playing gambling is only fun and don't make as your way to earn money.
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8229  Economy / Speculation / Re: People selling alts to go back in BTC on: April 03, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
hail bitcoins!

well, i'm the weakest link, man! I got stuck in ETH... this is so punk rock!

you can waiting for next train and it will help you to sell your ethereum in higher price, i think it would not too long to waited and make sure that you don't missed that time because the train is ready to go. i think this is not just for ethereum, but almost all altcoin will have increase price and we need to be patience.
8230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 03, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Personally I am not incorrect if I gamble, but I don't let my family know I gamble and make/lose money, it is neutral thing. If you win, it can be good, vice versa.

right,there is no need to make gambling a big issue, we can just play as long as we win and if were not really meant into gambling better find more profitable hobby that will make beneficial and enjoy, though there were really some who makes living in gambling,it just happen that I'm not included to them.

There are very few people who earn a living from gambling and that is a huge risk to take as there is no guarantee that we will be winning all the time and if we start loosing then it may take away our entire bankroll in a single day.
That's why discipline is always needed. You are expected to know what your limits are and how much you are comfortable losing if you are in bad luck. That's always going to be the case because it's a game of chance. Probably, you need to be happy with what you have now in order to be happier the next day.
well its good if you can afford to forget everything after you lose and play back after when you feel that you wanted to play again, never try to chase your loses and be aggressive it will just let you burned everything and will be an start for your big problem, just enjoy and treat gambling not a bread and butter but just a sort of entertainment.

I don't see any point in going for gambling again once you have lost and if you continue to gamble then there is a big chance that you will be betting with higher amount to recover your loss and at the end you will be loosing even more money.
if a person is gambling for money and will not be able to earn and is only losing then he have not go gamble for money as he will lose continuously while if he want to continue only for entertainment then there is not wrong to gamble.

but many people don't realize about this and they still continue to playing gambling even their money is empty and they borrow others people money to continue playing. they don't thinking that they should give the money they borrowed, they don't know how they can pay back the money.
8231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: April 03, 2017, 01:27:17 PM
Easy..? It's literally not possible. I tried many things to loosen up my addiction but only gaming was useful, that too online gaming. All other ideas were good only for 5-10 data after that I got bored and started gambling again.
So I would suggest you the same. Try some online gaming where you can kill your free time and forget gambling.

Well, i want to tell, i started to play gambling, because i did play online games, and than i start to do betting and in this way, i started gambling. But as you suggest it worked because we are addicted to play games, than online games, both are same, but we are save in only online games, because in this way, our money is save.

When you have very little time from your job and you are earning well, it would be better if you are addicted to games rather than gambling.
Gambling may take all the money you have earned where as gaming would take only time. So I feel it is a great alternative if you want to leave your addiction to gambling.

i am agree with you because if we are addicted in games only, then we don't have to use our money to do gamble and we can use our money to buy another thing like food, drink or others while we are playing the games. we should thinking serious that playing gambling can make our money loss forever.
8232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: April 03, 2017, 01:25:16 PM
i can imagine if i am loss in more than $30 in just one day because as i don't have big money for playing gambling, i only use my small amount like $3 when i want to playing gambling. and if i have loss in $1.5, i will trying to stop playing and i don't thinking that i can recover my money back because its not easy to get our money back for playing gambling.
8233  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: April 03, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
I am not spending my bitcoins directly but I spend them indirectly by selling them and converting them to fiat currency as that is the only option I have at a moment as I don't see any direct places where I can spend my bitcoins directly as none of them accepts bitcoin as a mode of payment at a moment.
Find a way to spend them directly with the businesses online that you want to purchase good from or even try see if purse.io has what you want. As a last option you could always use a third party provider that converts your bitcoins to the currency the place you are shopping at accepts but that is best left as a finale option and needs a lot of research before putting that sort of trust in another company.

I can not now trust my bitcoins to anyone. I lost a lot in HYIP. So I decided to just hold bitcoin. Now I do not want to spend it. Maybe in the future I will change my mind

You lost your bitcoins in the past because you invested at a wrong place but there is no risk in spending bitcoin for buying or for shopping you can easily spend it but if you have made your mind not to spend them then keep your bitcoins safe in your wallet.

its not good to invest in HYIP programs because we can not know if the programs is real and trusted or just a scam programs. but if you have bad experience with HYIP in the past, then i think you don't do it again in future and only spending bitcoin for important things and buy something that you really wants.
8234  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: April 03, 2017, 01:17:50 PM
We will never be able to compete with the big whales. In such operations, they invest millions of dollars. If you want to earn on the price of bitcoin then follow their actions and repeat. Then you will earn on their money.

that is for sure because we only have limited budget and if we compare with the big whales, we are nothing and we only can follow their price and hope that we can make profit too. we can do this as much as we want as long as we can do it in the right time especially if we know what they want with the price.
8235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buying all ICO's? on: April 03, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
i don't think that this is a good option to buying all ICO because we don't know about them with details and we can be confuse to manage from one ICO into other ICO. but i think if we only buying for only 3 - 5 ICO, then it should not difficult to manage it as we can manage our time to give our attention for each of the ICO.
8236  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: can you mine bitcoin for the next 20 years on: April 03, 2017, 01:10:11 PM
hi guys i want to ask you please
can same one take bitcoin mining as a source income of living for the next 20 years

thank you guys for awesome forum

i don't know about this because its too long to thinking and why that person will start to mining in next 20 years? don't tells that if that person is newly know bitcoin and want to try to mining bitcoin. we don't know what will be happen in next 20 years, but we can follow the news from now and we can know that we can still mining bitcoin or not.
8237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: April 03, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
As per my experience with gambling it is all depend on our mind how taking it seriously if truly rely on gambling than it is much of the difficult decision for any person to quit. We always try to find the alternate way to spend our time on online not to stick around on gambling sites which is nice choice to quit.

but this is really hard for people that have addicting in gambling and they are really need helps from others people to quit gambling. and if we can found one person that know our problem and want to helps us, then i think that guys can recover his self and can quit from gambling but he need to be patience as its not easy to build or create new habit in our life.
8238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: April 03, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
I have seen many threads like this.Actually it's a simple question and the answer is also.simple.We still gambling after lose because we hope that we will win in very next game.And this hope made us do gambling again and again.

Yes, that's the common reason why we still gamble even though we are just experiencing the same lose again and again. No matter what happens we think about this and we are very positive on this matter.

we are only thinking that maybe this time we can win the games with easy and we are too confident with ourself but after some games, we are only loss more than we can imagine and in the end, we loss every money that we have. i think its because sometimes we can not realize that we can not win for playing gambling games but we still continue to played.
8239  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: April 03, 2017, 12:54:41 PM
I agree with you. In fact, only a small percentage of the world's population knows about the cryptocurrency. Therefore, the crypto currency will not soon catch up with the popularity of Fiat. And hardly ever replace the Fiat

It is not really able to make it, that is the fact with bitcoin. And bitcoin will always be treated as an investment by most of the people, though many of us are already using it as an online currency. But there would be one day that the fiat will be upgraded into something that has the same idea with bitcoin and other crypto's.

Yes, bitcoins are now considered by many people as investments. This is due to the fact that the price of bitcoin is growing. In the long term, it can grow several times.
Few people use bitcoins to buy everyday products

Actually as of now in most of the countries, we can't buy any everyday products using bitcoins directly because they are not so popular in mainstream business yet. Bitcoins are more popular in the gambling industry. But for investment purpose, it is quite good because of its high price fluctuations we can make some profits regularly.

Fiat has been fully involved in our daily lives and it will take a lot of time to completely eliminate it and start using bitcoins. Bitcoins has started replacing credits  cards which were being used online.
We can not used bitcoin for our daily lives this is only digital currency and not all people can access bitcoin that is why it is impossible to replace fiat by bitcoin and fiat is much needed by all people for daily. The only advantage of bitcoin is the value it has big value that our fiat and also we can earn in bitcoin itself.

Yeah the usage and users of fiat are more in compare to bitcoins and spending fiat is easy in compare to spending bitcoins and even in future most of the people will prefer to use bitcoin only for online transactions and for offline they will prefer fiat.

It does not depend on people. Many people agree to buy food for bitcoins. But they do not have such an opportunity. Stores do not sell goods for bitcoins. I hope that in the future I can buy anything for bitcoin. And then I will definitely forget about Fiat

That's right and even now people prefer to use credit cards for shopping as they don't want to carry hard cash in their wallet and once people will start knowing bitcoins they will follow the same and will start buying goods with bitcoins.

i think we can see this in future after bitcoin is accepting in many places and there are offline store that accepting bitcoin as payment. i think in future, credit card will not use again as bitcoin is more easy to use than credit card and bitcoin is not only have the card but we can save it in our android phone.
8240  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: April 03, 2017, 12:51:27 PM
I think that when you trade, the person himself determines the risks. And the result of the trade is completely dependent on his actions. When investing the result depends on another person

For me trading is also an investing as without putting your money you can go for trading but its true that my end result will depend on how I act during the entire process and if I make a right move at a right time then it the results will be positive for me.

agree with this, because if we bought a coins and we don't sell it when the price is higher and keep to save until we see the highest price, then i think its should be an investing too. but in investing, if we send our money into one programs, we can not use our money for any of purpose and only wait after the programs is ended and we can take our money with profit.
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