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861  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Socialism is the key on: March 07, 2016, 10:26:42 AM

I'm with you up to the democracy part, because I don't think freedom is best achieved in a democracy if your version of democracy is that popular ideas are deemed moral because they're the most popular. That doesn't follow logically. If there are no absolute freedoms, democracy is rather worthless in my opinion. So it has to be a democracy that doesn't have the power to infringe on the freedom of the individual, and now we're back to a moral government.




Free education: Steal from educated parents and give it to uneducated ones who did poor choices in their lives because they are dumb


Yeah, so the children don't have to be destroyed by the poor parents choices...

And of course it's only because the parents are dumb. It can't be anything else. Nothing can happen in a life that could explain people are not able to afford education for their children.
862  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Socialism is the key on: March 07, 2016, 10:23:11 AM

Ok then you need absolutely no rule, a free currency of course, like btc.

And how do you protect citizens? I mean what would prevent a company like Google to just hire some mercenaries and kill the potential competitors as there is no police and no government?

Who said no police? You can still have police run privately like a corporation.


Basic policing like keeping the streets clean and emergency 911 calls can be easily done (and possibly more efficiently) than government police.

You know in Japan the subway system has a maximum 1 minute delay and its run by private corps.

When I was last time in government subway they always have a 10-15 minute delay.

So you have to admit that private stuff is managed better, and when you call the cops because there is somebody in your house, then its a matter of life and death if they delay 15 minutes because they forgot to buy their donuts.

And for personal protection, there are always security guards and security services available, you just cant afford it currently, but with low or no taxes I guarantee you it would be as cheap as buying a hamburger.

Ahahahahah xD

Ok Stop, I stop right there! I just can't go on, you won I can't fight people saying things like this! There is nothing more to discuss I give up, just all die alone as you have to.
863  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Socialism is the key on: March 07, 2016, 10:20:33 AM
I think I lost most of my faith in humanity in this thread... This is all pathetic...

I'm still waiting for any of you all capitalists pigs to explain Laosai how you can give everyone an education without taxes and socialism!

But you all freaks believe that in some kind of magical way everything will work out?




I highly doubt you read my posts. If you did, it's clear you didn't think very hard afterwards.


I think people should be educated too. In fact, probably 99% of people would share out opinion on education. Would you agree?

If that's the general consensus throughout the population, then doesn't it seem probable that this opinion would translate into market demand? Surely if 99% of everybody wants education than there will be education provided in a free market. The reason that education would be provided is because EVERYONE would gladly pay for it and so it's a business opportunity. People don't need to give control of the education system to a government monopoly. Thankfully, in most places we still have private schools, however even though I might choose to use a private school, unfortunately I'm still forced to pay for the public education system through taxes.

All you are really implying with your above comment, is that in your mind, YOU can't think of any possible way to educate people without the government forcing them to pay taxes and then giving them an education. That's just intellectual laziness, sorry.

I'm showing you guys the logic and you're saying stupid shit like, "But you all freaks believe that in some kind of magical way everything will work out? "

There is no magic dumbass. Socialists just think they know what's best for everyone else and because they have such good intentions, that means it's morally acceptable to use taxes and force people to pay for their great ideas. Good ideas don't require force. Do I need to tax you to make sure you feed yourself? Some extreme Socialist would probably say yes to that too!

I'm just crying in a corner.
Coming back after the weekend to read something like this... Ô tempora Ô mores!

Well little thing. What will happen TO THOSE WHO CAN'T PAY FOR IT??

You're saying "there will be a market" oh no doubt! There is already one in the USA! And you saw what is costs!!!
864  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: March 07, 2016, 10:12:57 AM
Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.
OK
But what then you are proposing to be done?
Punish after crime?

So we just need to awaits he rapes children and if police caught him after 5th times
he will prosecuted and marked as sexual offender..
3 years in jail and he's on the road again..

Well first punishing after crime is the only way to go. How would you find criminals if they don't have comited the crime yet?

Second stop spreading bullshit, 3 years for pedophilia? Kidding me? it's 15 years minima, sometimes more.

Third: I'm not proposing anything, you're the one asking for new things to be done not me.
865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay marriage will destabilise family life on: March 07, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Considering the amount of vulgarity you're spitting it might be a possibility yeah.

You're only yelling and insulting. You give few if no logical arguments.

You just abuse the Caps Lock of your keyboard and the emojis that's all.
Better than talking all nice .When really your being horrible little cunts OK.
People like you STAB YOU IN THE BACK..be all nice but really your rats.. Grin SO GO DIE CUNT
Also with a brain like yours waste of space ..Don't believe in Darwin  Cheesy D :Dumb shits

And also the question being asked is a total lie and a fuckin Insult to gay people SO FUCK OFF



You're... Terrifying...

Truly if people like you are usual in USA I understand why they're all talking about "politically correct" legion.

Why are you yelling like this? Why are you insulting us? They both said they were for gay marriage why the fuck are you insulting them like this?
866  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay marriage will destabilise family life on: March 07, 2016, 10:06:59 AM
The problem with the logic that anyone who is against gay marriage is against homosexuals or homosexuality is that homosexuals and homosexuality don't involve the government. When you introduce government into the situation, it instantly becomes something that effects every resident of the nation, especially tax payers. Government does not solve problems, it only causes them. Homosexuals rallying for state recognized marriage is no different than begging for more wide distribution of the shackles every one else suffers from. Demanding the government regulate the people more is EVERYONE'S problem regardless of who or what you are sexually attracted to. Reducing this subject down to "you are either for us or against us" is a fallacy and has no place in honest debate. Not everyone who is against gay marriage is a right wing closet gay Jesus freak homophobic bigot.

I don't understand your point. What's the problem with homosexuality and right for their marriage?

Do you have any argument against it not linked to religion or homophobia? Smiley
867  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: March 07, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
Thanks for reviewing my application.

I understand the campaign is nearly full,
Don't hesitate to contact me again if the campaign opens itself Smiley
868  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 07, 2016, 09:55:26 AM

Information post

Here is a quote of myself as Spendulus and his followers seem to just ignored it.

Please feel free to not blindly trust me but follow the links. You'll see it appear they just made plain lies and can't admit it.

Unless you understand "the increase went from 0.17 to 0.11 which is not understood by our models and is interesting" as "there is no longer increase and a pause".

Spendulus and Wilikon gave this article out saying it proves the "pause they're all claiming". here is the article:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/mann-splaining-the-pause.php

Of course ti's not a scientific article or study just a blog. But no problem the article says there is a pause so it's interesting. It's using a very biased vocabulary but hey, who has no opinion? It's not a crime to be happy when your side wins!

Let's check the sources then. Not very diversified sourcing but well. Mainly Nature articles so let's check them.

First source:
http://www.nature.com/news/global-warming-hiatus-debate-flares-up-again-1.19414?WT.ec_id=NEWS-20160225&spMailingID=50779167&spUserID=MTc2NjY4OTI4MwS2&spJobID=863136582&spReportId=ODYzMTM2NTgyS0

Do they talk about a pause in temperature?
"The debate revolves in part around statistics on temperature trends. The study1 that questioned the existence of the slowdown corrected known biases in the surface temperature record maintained by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), such as differences in temperature readings from ships and buoys. This effectively increased the warming recorded, and the researchers also extended the record to include 2014, which set a new record high for average temperatures.

That work, led by Thomas Karl, director of NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information in Asheville, North Carolina, calculated the rate of global warming between 1950 and 1999 as being 0.113 °C per decade, similar to the 0.116 °C a decade calculated for 2000–14. This, Karl said, meant that an assessment done by the influential Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 20133  showing that warming had slowed was no longer valid.

Fyfe and his colleagues argue2 that Karl’s approach was biased by a period of relatively flat temperatures that extended from the 1950s into the early 1970s. Greenhouse-gas emissions were lower then, and emissions of industrial pollutants such as sulphate aerosols were cooling the planet by reflecting sunlight back into space. Fyfe says that his calculations show that the planet warmed at 0.170 °C per decade from 1972 to 2001, which is significantly higher than the warming of 0.113 °C per decade he calculates for 2000–14."

Ok so they never talk about a pause here... They talk about a slow down...

Let's check the second source:
http://www.nature.com/news/climate-change-hiatus-disappears-with-new-data-1.17700

"All told, Karl's team finds that global temperatures increased at a rate of 0.116°C a decade in 2000–14, compared to a rate of 0.113°C in 1950–99. And Karl says that rate will probably go up once his team calculates the temperature increase for the entirety of the rapidly warming Arctic. Researchers found in 2013 that gaps in Arctic observations artificially cooled the Met Office temperature record2.

The latest study only resolved part of the question. Climate models used by the IPCC still project warming to continue, but scientists have documented various factors for which the models have not accounted, resulting in suppressed temperatures. These contributors include weak solar irradiation, volcanic aerosols that block sunlight and ocean circulation3.

“Once you take into account the slight forcing errors, the actual occurrence of El Niños, et cetera, there is very little left to explain,” says Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City."

Damn no pause here either!


Could it be possible that they talk only about a slow down because it's all there is?



869  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 07, 2016, 09:54:37 AM
Unfortunately for you, the argument that was made, by me, was precisely and accurately stated as to being referential to one data set.  The blind arrogance in ignoring that claim and it's statistical verification was ignored by the Warmers resident here whom then I can only call Deniers on the basis of their actions.

Frankly I don't know that 0.18F rise in 18 years rises to the point of statistical significance, but you are welcome to show that it does.

Your several other disjointed arguments thrown out are unrelated to the actual claim made.

Unless you would like to misrepresent the claim made and then proceed with a strawman argument?

lol...

Yeah like the fact that you and your colleagues widely ignored every single logical argument made here.

I've posted something like 4 articles explaining the consequences and the origine of climate change.

You didn't even replied to it. You simply ignored them and post other false informations.

Your only sources are poor blogs that totally and willingly misinterpret the scientific reports.
870  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 07, 2016, 09:51:38 AM

So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk?



I understand why you got banned. You sincerely lack of any kind of logic and only use poor arguments and logical fallacies. Meanwhile you totally and widely ignore any proof provided to you.

None of the numerous articles I've posted have been even commented. You don't give a fuck about discussing, you just want to post your opinions that's all.
871  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: March 07, 2016, 09:49:44 AM



Mayor-Turned-Child-Sex Offender Arrested near School For 3rd Time

-----------------------------------------------------
I guess he needs "more rights"...

 Roll Eyes

This thread is about pedophile rights.
Why do you say this convicted Child-Sex Offender needs more rights?


"Because, until he does it for a 4th time, he is just a human being, like you and me..."


 Roll Eyes




Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.
872  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: March 07, 2016, 09:46:46 AM

Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals



You did exactly that.

It is that simple.




Exactly. You would like to put everyone having weir dreams or sick ideas behind the bars?

Gonna be hard. And long. What will you do once everyone is in jail?
873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2016, 09:43:07 AM
wow that's actually pretty good, especially the pleading parts lol  Grin

at the end of the day its the miners that will decide,,, just "fork" it  Shocked
lol,  fuck ya buddy!

JUST FORK IT



Late IMHO.

BTC boat is taking the water. Good time to get out. Just sell everything and come back once they understood that it can't wait.  Cheesy
874  Economy / Gambling / Re: BIT-LOTTERY.TOP on: March 04, 2016, 11:09:36 AM
This whole thread is just a joke. Can't it be closed?

There is no instruction like how many people have to play, when the price will be drawed. Give out the funds to an escrow and then MAYBE it'll have something to be discussed.

READ GOOD, AFTER 20 TICKETS ARE SOLD THERE WILL BE A DRAW PRICE PER TICKET 0.002 BTC.

I LOOK FOR SOMETHING LIKE ESCROW OR A HERO MEMBER WHIT HIGH TRUST WHO KEEP THE FUNDS TILL PAYMENTS ARE MADE SO IT WILL BE SAFE FOR ALL
Lol, not need to yell like this.

You should update OP. I don't know where you said this but it's not in the OP.
875  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: March 04, 2016, 11:08:40 AM
Yes people's militia is great idea but this is unacceptable for government.
Because they can't control this army.
This is why they won't let this happen, this is why they will collect every piece of gun..
Because they don't have full power over people.

Yeah let's go back to the good all Far West.

Everyone apply his own law. It'll be much better!
I mean why even applying those fucking laws they vote in Washington?
Useless! They can't know better than us what's good for our community!
876  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: March 04, 2016, 11:03:28 AM
“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?

Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it.
And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.

If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.

Ah damn. Forget my last question, I thought it was a fetish xD
877  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: March 04, 2016, 11:02:22 AM
“We should accept that there is no way to change someone’s fetishes,” Takagi insisted. “I am helping people express their desires, legally and ethically. It’s not worth living if you have to live with repressed desire.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/can-child-dolls-keep-pedophiles-from-offending/423324/

Now dream about sex with kid is just a fetish?


Expressing desires?

This is what is sick, peace of plastic is not important in this story.
They are coming for their rights.

Yes of course what do you think it is?

How would you classify it if not a fetish?
878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Free Advice: Beware of Kafkatrapping on: March 04, 2016, 11:01:05 AM
Stay silent? No, just ignore them entirely, they only get any power when people actually listen to them and act on it, they can't do anything themselves or if you do engage them just counter their propaganda at every turn.

Yeah well beware also of your own propaganda...

The gap is thin between fighting another propaganda and succombing to your own without even realizing it... Look at all the religious biggots or the Flat Earth believers around here!
879  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Socialism is the key on: March 04, 2016, 10:57:21 AM

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITHOUT THE STATE INTERFERING???

How do you ensure that companies keep the small sizes???

For god I fucking agree on a small size capitalism! That would be a good thing too and maybe even better than socialism! But HOW DO YOU CONTROL THAT?

By shrinking the state, the limited government concept of libertarianism, you seriously need to read up on that.

Companies can hardly expand if you have balance of power, and balance of power you achieve by frictionless competition, and no interference in the system.

The market is a delicate system, and if you interfere in the market with the might of the state, it is like dropping a meteor in a lake and complaining about the water not being calm.

Remove government interference from the economy, and the economy slowly calms down, (people become equal even by socialist standards), like a lake's surface in a sunny day.

Hey buddy, got a question for you:

Funny. You're saying that without rules or taxes, in a free market, everyone would be equals.

Well here's a good example: there is no rule about internet in 99% countries. Why is Google dominating and killing everything else so much then?
880  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Socialism is the key on: March 04, 2016, 10:56:36 AM


Quote
So what will prevent big rich guys to oppress you? They got the money so they'll just use their power to put you down.

Very simple, competitive markets limit power. Giant corporations don't just appear out of nowhere. I understand it's hard to strip away the layers of complexity, when we were all born into the present situation. Businesses grow because they are providing a valuable service to their customers, who (in a free market) CHOOSE to do business with them. Does Apple hold a gun to your head when you buy an iPhone? Nope. On the other hand I will have a gun held to my head if I choose to not do business with the local or federal governments when they provide me service that I don't ask for.

Taxation = Coercion
Buying a product from a business out of your own free will = Freedom.

Funny. You're saying that without rules or taxes, in a free market, everyone would be equals.

Well here's a good example: there is no rule about internet in 99% countries. Why is Google dominating and killing everything else so much then?
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