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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
With all due respect let me be the first to stop. I am not a participant/contributor in your plan so time to stop criticizing your plan, if you succeed we all succeed and profit and can learn from it.

The best way to destroy an organization is from the inside out. I've taken my share of funny comments/attacks back so let me STFU.

The conference call on Thurs was good and if this Wall street thing shows up on CNN then this post will be very upbeat I bet.

Applauses !

Let's go ! Direction : the black moon.

Thank you! This is going to be a good week for BC...lets focus on the real goal...sitting at #1
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
why are we paying the pr company to give them a plan? if the pr company is doing all the work why do we need a foundation? cant we just find our own pr company and hire them ourselves?

http://iconic-vs-soepkip.blogspot.com


I am sure you are trying to show support but please stop posting the video of SoepKip. I know your account is specifically being used to spread FUD. Although SoepKip didn't show me the same courtesy and stop people from personally attacking me or my wife, I will in this case intervene and ask you to stop. While the video is funny during certain parts, I think it is way too personal and overly mean spirited. If you want to show support, please help in another way.

Your questions are valid though  Smiley
863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
Pretty disappointed reading these posts lately. Some fuktard and his wife begging for BC like a 12 year old kid. Gonna peddle BC pamphlets with some girls hired off craigslist. Fuking pathetic really - sounded good at first but why doesnt this guy scale his shit down to size - like 4 girls and his wife for starts and take proceeds from that and then maybe 10 rather than sponge from the community to self promote himself to the next pool.

Really......wake up people.

As for the multipool - that's a choice. You either use it (I do) or you mine trade yourself or make your own pool Who is going to tell you you xan't. Don't trust the multipool then don't use it - I never liked that fat fuk at Mt Gox myself so never traded with them - he was an official fukhat of the btc organization - so much for that nonsense.

You got a handful of developers that got their shit together - the rest are just self promoting amateurs really.......

Would be nice if the holders of BC acted their part - I'd be embarrassed to recommend these posts.


I sincerely hope this is some "outside group" trying to put a wedge between the BC community. Because if the core group is behind this obvious charade, we are in more trouble than I previously thought.

Let me give you some pointers on how to do a proper smear campaign..

1. Never use a mans wife and/or kids in a smear. It immediately turns people off and it will quickly turn them against you.
2. Never use blatant lies. People are not stupid, they can find out for themselves. Always use the truth against a person.
3. Spread your attacks across days not minutes, it will seem more believable.
4. Never use new accounts, it just makes you look like a weasel and a coward.
5. Know when to stop. You can over reach and your attacks can quickly make the intended target look like a victim, which will have the opposite effect of what you originally intended.
6. The most important one...Smears work both ways. Never try to launch a smear campaign against someone that is significantly more calculating and devious than you.
864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 08:44:19 PM

Swapping the donated alt-coins to FIAT is not using them.
It makes absolute sense to cash them out at the donated times face value - as that was the intention of the donation.

Had i sent 5k BC when price was 50K, and he not chased them until price was 25K i would be pissed my effective donation I feel I made was cut into 50% for no reason. Same with BTC.
Holding onto any Alt coins that are donated is too fucking dangerous when your working towards a monetary target.

We could have $11900 raised in BTC on the 15th, price tanks and then project is fucked up as the value is now $5000

It makes absolute sense of any project needing FIAT to swap the donation ASAP.
I don't want the guy doing the PR (or team) to speculate with the funds.


Thank you for that. I haven't touched a dime of the donations. All I have done is converted to FIAT to protect the value of the donation. When we reach our goal I will be posting detailed info on everything I buy with the funds.
865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
since 25k doge are roughly $12,- you shouldn't say $100, that's true.
my point is that at the time of my donation, the FIAT value was close to 100$ i didnt do the math, the numbers are only to prove a point. The value of the currency at the time of donation can fluctuate, so a dip or a rise could throw off all the math if he'scashing out daily. And there is no transparency to someone cashing it all out. Every single legit BTC and Doge charity will leave the wallet alone so people can verify exactly where their donations are and when they are being spent. For all we know he's paying his bills with it. Plus what if you don't hit your target and have to pay people back? are you going to pay out 6K out of your own pocket if it drops 50% like you stated it could? I highly doubt it. YOU SHOULDNT BE CASHING OUT UNTIL YOUR GOAL IS REACHED IN THE FIRST PLACE. If you are spending donations and your goal doesnt get met then all the money spent up to that point is lost. protect yourself and your investors donations. dont spend the funds until they are all collected.
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lol...No one thinks I raised $12,000 or $16,000 in this short span of time. The Dev team has much more support than me for their project and they are roughly where I am at in donations. I am not stupid...I know people can easily track the transactions...You are not even trying to make this seem believable.  But hey...if "operation discredit" is still on then have fun with it...

Ignored...
866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 07:45:51 PM
CAN ICONIC ANSWER HOW UCH BTC HE HAS COLLECTED? LIKE 50 PAGES AGO SOMEONE DID THE MATH AND SAYS HES OVER 12K. I HAVE SEEN 3 OTHER PEOPLE ASK HIM TO VERIFY HOW MUCH HE HAS RECEIVED AND HE HAS IGNORED THEM JUST TO FURTHER THIS STUPID FIGHT THATS GOING ON. THE BLOCKCHAIN SHOWS THAT YOU ARE MOVING OUT THE BTC AS FAST AS ITS COMING IN. SO I ASK YOU. HOW MUCH HAVE YOU MADE IN DONATIONS?

Look at my previous posts! I ANSWERED this yesterday.

I tried... your history is so backed up with rants that I got fed up trying to comb through them. How about you just answer the question. How much have you received and where is it going? Why move it out as soon as its received? are you playing the markets with it? otherwise there is no reason that you should be moving DONATIONS around like that

And this is why I ignore people like you. You do realize the markets go up and down right? Only a fool would hold donations in an account for more than 2 days. To protect the value of the donations I have to convert them into FIAT. If someone donates $1000 and BC takes a nosedive and the new value is $500.00, then I am responsible for the rest. To avoid that I trade/convert the coins into FIAT.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6526406#msg6526406

people arent donating FIAT equivalencies are they? Thats foolish to even do. Just calculate it all at the end and you wouldnt have to do that. That just seems fishy. Like I wouldnt donate 3200 BC and say its worth 440$, I would donate and say its worth 3200 BC. Ive never donated any form of crypto where I assigned it a FIAT value at the time of donation. I donated 25k doge in februrary but i dont go around saying i donated 100$, I say 25k doge

WTF are you babbling about? I HAVE to convert it to FIAT first before I can use it. Tell me genius how do I pay for everything if it is not converted to FIAT? Are you seriously suggesting that I should keep the coins in cold storage until it is needed? Because if you are then you sir should never take donations. BTC could drop to $300 tomorrow and then the value of the donations will decrease..WOW

You didn't get the memo? "Operation Discredit" was called off...


867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 07:31:16 PM
CAN ICONIC ANSWER HOW UCH BTC HE HAS COLLECTED? LIKE 50 PAGES AGO SOMEONE DID THE MATH AND SAYS HES OVER 12K. I HAVE SEEN 3 OTHER PEOPLE ASK HIM TO VERIFY HOW MUCH HE HAS RECEIVED AND HE HAS IGNORED THEM JUST TO FURTHER THIS STUPID FIGHT THATS GOING ON. THE BLOCKCHAIN SHOWS THAT YOU ARE MOVING OUT THE BTC AS FAST AS ITS COMING IN. SO I ASK YOU. HOW MUCH HAVE YOU MADE IN DONATIONS?

Look at my previous posts! I ANSWERED this yesterday.

+1 he answered and explained this last night already.

Someone didn't get the memo that "Operation Discredit" was called off   Grin
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
CAN ICONIC ANSWER HOW UCH BTC HE HAS COLLECTED? LIKE 50 PAGES AGO SOMEONE DID THE MATH AND SAYS HES OVER 12K. I HAVE SEEN 3 OTHER PEOPLE ASK HIM TO VERIFY HOW MUCH HE HAS RECEIVED AND HE HAS IGNORED THEM JUST TO FURTHER THIS STUPID FIGHT THATS GOING ON. THE BLOCKCHAIN SHOWS THAT YOU ARE MOVING OUT THE BTC AS FAST AS ITS COMING IN. SO I ASK YOU. HOW MUCH HAVE YOU MADE IN DONATIONS?

Look at my previous posts! I ANSWERED this yesterday.

I tried... your history is so backed up with rants that I got fed up trying to comb through them. How about you just answer the question. How much have you received and where is it going? Why move it out as soon as its received? are you playing the markets with it? otherwise there is no reason that you should be moving DONATIONS around like that

And this is why I ignore people like you. You do realize the markets go up and down right? Only a fool would hold donations in an account for more than 2 days. To protect the value of the donations I have to convert them into FIAT. If someone donates $1000 and BC takes a nosedive and the new value is $500.00, then I am responsible for the rest. To avoid that I trade/convert the coins into FIAT.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6526406#msg6526406
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
CAN ICONIC ANSWER HOW UCH BTC HE HAS COLLECTED? LIKE 50 PAGES AGO SOMEONE DID THE MATH AND SAYS HES OVER 12K. I HAVE SEEN 3 OTHER PEOPLE ASK HIM TO VERIFY HOW MUCH HE HAS RECEIVED AND HE HAS IGNORED THEM JUST TO FURTHER THIS STUPID FIGHT THATS GOING ON. THE BLOCKCHAIN SHOWS THAT YOU ARE MOVING OUT THE BTC AS FAST AS ITS COMING IN. SO I ASK YOU. HOW MUCH HAVE YOU MADE IN DONATIONS?

Look at my previous posts! I ANSWERED this yesterday.
870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Everyone is assuming that the PR company is going to incessantly spew out bastardized advertising. If it does this, then I will not agree with the initiative. I am under the impression however, that the role of the PR team is to build a tactile and developed strategy for implementing Blackcoin and helping to build it's infrastructure.

I.E If the PR team's job is to aid in getting Blackcoin adopted by traders (helping with pitches etc), identifying weaknesses with it's message and potential implementation then I am fully 100% behind it. These are the fundamentals we need to be working on right now and a plan for this is badly needed to unify the message. We need to be working out how we can actually develop a supply and demand for Blackcoin and if that is the PR teams job, which is what I imagine it to be, then great. That is a logical step right now. That is why I am not currently against it.

Ok I am going to extend an olive branch here and I will explain why I am against the PR firm.

I dated a woman years ago that worked for a well known ad agency/PR firm in NYC. I love learning about other people professions and I can listen for hours if someone has an interesting profession. We use to talk about her clients (they call them accounts), and she once explained to me how part of her job is to charge the client for ridiculous bs. (They are worse than Lawyers) First they charge you to come up with the plan, and then they make you feel only they can execute the plan effectively, so then they charge you again to implement the plan. But here is the real BS...in all PR firm contracts they will not guarantee positive results. So if you spend $100,000 and their plan flops, oh well we tried maybe next time. She told me never hire a PR firm it is better to hire one or more freelancers which is significantly cheaper and will yield better results.

Now you do not have to believe me or take my advice, but you will quickly realize I am not BSing you. PR firms should be avoided unless you have millions of dollars to spend.

871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
If you are tired of me "getting to much attention" then stop chatting 14+ hours a day on IRC and get something done. Because if all you and the dev team can focus on is the multi-pool and IRC, then we will keep having this issue every few weeks because I will always be doing something new to generate buzz.

See? There you again. Passive aggressive. So we are chatting on IRC for 14+ hours a day and being useless? Was this even necessary to post after I openly asked to begin some sort of compromise? Roll Eyes

No that wasn't passive aggressive..that was aggressive aggressive. Smiley  Passive aggressive would be..."Maybe you should consider spending far less time on IRC and shift more of your focus to other things..." Smiley

Now can we go back to making money?

This could be a good week for BC if the BS can stop....
872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 06:31:15 PM
Some bullet points of significance:

-- Iconic's attacks. Although there's some poetic justice in the developments of the last 48 hours on that field (he's the one prone to promote bannings of dissenting people... dissenting with some or all or his opinions/methods), the juvenile peculiarity of the attacks, the viciousness in some cases and the totally inappropriate way of going about it by a seemingly coordinated gang, totally discredits those -including the devs- who have willingly and repeatedly participated, instead of the chosen target. Once again, I find the guy generally regrettable, an out of control dangerous egomaniac without capability of accepting criticism and in on this to make a buck by any means he find necessary, both on the coin valuation and on side business such as his card. But the attacks on him personally are, clearly, politically motivated. I don't personally know how much has he invested in BC but I am fairly sure he won't have any problem showing his wallet for everyone to see. If for no other reason that to keep him in check and benefit from some of his ideas, the proposed "Foundation" should have offered him a seat in their board. But it seems that the Foundation, with or without quotes, is more or less a fan club (of the DOGE) grabbing territory before "that crazy guy" gets the bulk of the community on his side and actually running things". Hastily doing so, can easily prove to be counter intuitive and obviously shows weakness. Repercussions, potentially serious ones, are sure to follow.


I still think you should be banned. However, I do not think there is anyone who dislikes me more than you, and when you can clearly see and admit these attacks are "political" should make them take pause.
873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
We all know I have an ego, but do we really need 100 pages to point out I have an ego? I rather people post 100 pages on another forum how awesome BlackCoin is. People are so focused on me but once again we wasted a week where we could have really made some buzz.

You should have stopped your ego from tearing up the dev's project. All of this recent mess, stemmed from your original post about how the PR campaign is the worst choice any start up business can make (as if BC or any crypto is your typical startup). Not only that, but you also made others believe it was such a bad decision and that we are some kind of amateurs running BC. From there, it spiraled into chaos. And this chaos was also the result tension that was building up from some of the investors who put a lot of time and money into BC, and really didn't enjoy you taking all the credit for everything that BC has accomplished - while downplaying everyone's accomplishments outside of your own.

This needs to be settled now. Trying to move this under the carpet again is a no go. We settle this now, and not later on when we are at $1+ and there will be a lot more money at stake. Because as you know, this isn't the first time... and this time was a lot worse than the previous one. I don't even want to know what a third time a month or two from now may look like if we don't address this now.

So, I ask, where do we start the compromise?

You just can't leave well enough alone. You guys do know there is post history... right? Your constant attempts at changing history it is very annoying. All my recent posts are here for all to see and I never delete my posts.

1. Gritt made his Asinine comment on an article that was getting a lot of attention. Whether his comment was malicious or not, his comment started the rift between the dev team and me.

2. When the dev team announced the PR firm I asked two simple questions, and it wasn't FUD. I was given a response along with pages of attacks.

3. Please stop with the talking points about me taking credit for everything, it is old. I have made factual claims that the "media" attention we have received has been from the efforts of me and the community, and that is FACT. Please show me one major article about BlackCoin in the past month that didn't involve something I was involved with. However, I do not try and take credit for stuff I didn't do. I didn't try to take credit for the multi-pool, I didn't try to take credit for Moolah, I didn't try to take credit for CoinKite, and I don't take credit for anything I wasn't a part of. And I have also given thanks and support to many members who have taken initiative with their own projects, so WTF are you talking about? No really WTF are you talking about? I get very annoyed with double talk and BS. I am a straight shooter and I dislike BS. Besides the PR firm idea when the f..k did I ever downplay someone else idea? Please show me just one instance where I downplayed someone else idea just to make mine look better. And the only reason why I questioned the PR firm idea was because of the blatant lack of transparency. I fundamentally believe in transparency and I have stated this millions of times.

So if you want an open dialog where we can get back to business, stop posting bs. This attempt to try and paint me as an egomaniac that wants all the attention and will destroy everyone's projects doesn't hold water when all one has to do is look through my previous posts. If you are tired of me "getting to much attention" then stop chatting 14+ hours a day on IRC and get something done. Because if all you and the dev team can focus on is the multi-pool and IRC, then we will keep having this issue every few weeks because I will always be doing something new to generate buzz.

So take my advice here... The few times I came to IRC to chat with you guys, 99% of my predictions ended up being correct. I am telling you right now, you are only hurting yourself with this bickering. I am NOT the official face of BC, and I do not have anything to lose from this bickering, but you guys most certainly do. I do not know how long you think you can keep up this  bickering before people start turning AGAINST YOU. So stop, I am not going anywhere, it is too late for that. So call it a learning experience and lets move the f..k on and make money.


874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
just a little fyi

I sent 20 btc to mintpal on friday to buy more blackcoins.
but all this squabbling is making me hold back pulling the trigger.

I hold a lot of blackcoins, and i was thinking that the drive to a dollar was just around the corner, I still think it may be but all this foundation bashing and iconic slamming has to stop.  unlike iconic who has to much to lose to actually sell out, us small, do nothing investers will take profits and hold if we see things going south

cheers and hope

bitcoin carpenter

Although you didn't respond to my previous post, I agree with you 100% here. Not only do I have a lot to lose so does a lot of other investors. I want to get back to business and it seems now FUD is the business of BlackCoin. We all know I have an ego, but do we really need 100 pages to point out I have an ego? I rather people post 100 pages on another forum how awesome BlackCoin is. People are so focused on me but once again we wasted a week where we could have really made some buzz. Whether you like the BlackCoin card or not, it made news on CoinDesk. And although I do profit from it, it doesn't mean we all can't profit from the news and attention it brings! We should have been posting that article everywhere to let people know how creative this community is. I do not let my ego get in the way of making money. If SoepKip or another member gets us on CoinDesk or a similar service I will be posting that news everywhere I can...

Hopefully this negativity stops here with this post. I actually think a healthy rivalry is a good thing because it motivates both sides to do better. But it is never good when it gets to the level of talking about someone's wife.


875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
BlackCoin Community Plan


As promised I came up with a basic plan that we all can build upon over time. I think as a community need to be on the same page to achieve our common goal to make BlackCoin  #1.
Before starting I was going to put this into a PDF and I decided to post it here so everyone can add whatever suggestions and comments to the plan. This is very long so please take a few minutes to read it.

Introduction:
Over the past few weeks this community has accomplished some amazing things in the name of BlackCoin, but lately we have lost focus on our main goal of making BlackCoin #1. Some of us have been conducting ourselves like juveniles on this forum, including myself. The first thing that needs to change around here is our decorum. We cannot continue to act the way we have been acting. There are some very talented and intelligent individuals here , and we do not have to attack each other to get our point across. We can have intense debates and still be respectful of each other. If and when trolls do enter our thread, we have to adopt a no tolerance policy. Do not quote them and kindly ask them to refrain from posting FUD. Do not aggressively engage or argue with them. This thread is key to attracting new talent and investors, and it needs to remain open but it also needs to remain fairly professional.

Mission:
Everyone keeps making the mistake of suggesting we can be the next Bitcoin. I do not want to be the next Bitcoin. In the eyes of the world Bitcoin doesn't exist. Yes we know about Bitcoin, and maybe 1 or 2 million people know about Bitcoin. However, if you ask 20 random people on the street if they know what Bitcoin is, I am willing to bet at least 19 of them would not have a clue what Bitcoin is. So although Bitcoin was the first, there is a very good opportunity to become the standard crypto-currency everyone knows and uses. There have been many examples in recent history when the first product to market is overshadowed by the newcomer because the newcomer had better marketing and branding.

Our mission is to strive to be the most recognized and used crypto-currency in the world.

Structure:
This is a hard one. BlackCoin is not a corporation and it will never be a corporation. It is a community funded project with many moving parts. However, it seems to have turned into a central organization with a community that has limited say. There are major issues with this approach but I will not address that now. Moving forward I propose we decentralize BlackCoin and turn it back into a community controlled project.

1. The development team focuses on development and the technical aspect of BlackCoin

2. The BlackCoin foundation focuses on supporting projects and whatever else they feel passionate about.

3. The community focuses on building the brand and handling the business side of BlackCoin. No one person or small group should decide the fate of BlackCoin.

I own the domain GoBlackCoin.com and we can turn that into a community hub for discussions, new ideas, projects, events,  and everything else related to BlackCoin. We can have tutorials, market info,...etc..etc. Senior members of the BlackCoin community can be admins and mods. it will be a complete social network for the BlackCoin community. I can have that up and running by mid June.

Technology:
The current BlackCoin client is based off the original Bitcoin client. We should begin to move forward with a more unique design that is tailored more for BlackCoin. Every wallet client is pretty much a carbon copy of the previous client with little differences here and there. It is hard to portray unique and innovative when the software for the wallet is similar in design to every other wallet.

Using BlackCoin at retail locations will be made easier using CoinKite, but I must admit I think cypto is going backwards with this approach. Using cards and terminals to make purchases is 20th century technology, and I have no idea why the currency of the future needs to use redesigned 20th century technology. Google has it right with their technology using an ordinary smart phone to make purchases.

We need to make it easier and cost effective for any merchant to accept BlackCoins without the hassle of extra terminals and cards. There are tons of locations that already support Google's technology, and maybe we need to tie into that network somehow.

Marketing & Brand Awareness:
We have already  proven that press releases have a positive effect on getting investors excited and garnering the attention of the crypto-community. But there is so much more we can be doing
a) Social media should be a top priority. We have members who have graciously offered to Tweet regularly and upload photos to Instagram. We must utilize every aspect of social media.

b) Events will be crucial to building brand awareness. The Wall Street event is just one example of how we need to be creative and think out the box. We need to sponsor small concerts, raise money for charities,  and sponsor high profile non-crypto related events

c) Traditional print ads in magazines is an option we will need to explore. Bitcoin placed an ad in Wired Magazine. That was a good idea but I would have opted for one of the financial magazines first. We need to go where the money is, and financial magazines is where we need to be.

d) Times Square billboard! Yes we need to go big! At this time it is not feasible to buy a billboard in Times Square, but as the marketcap of BlackCoin increases we can have a BlackCoin billboard in the middle of Times Square.

e) Radio is also an option we need to pursue. Radio is not expensive at all and can be effective with the right ad and audience.

f) Celebrity endorsements. A-list celebrities are expensive, but there are very popular celebrities that are not exactly A-list but have a huge following. Their fees are significantly less than an A-list celebrity but can be just as effective at making BlackCoin popular.

g) Sponsor poker tournaments and have the players paid in BlackCoin.

Infrastructure & Partnerships:
We have been very lucky to have been added to some of the top exchanges and services in such a short span of time. I think as a community we have been very effective in this area and we just need to keep contacting services and keep requesting they add us.

Coinbase is a Bitcoin only service but I think they are rethinking their position on that. If we can show how powerful and innovate BlackCoin is, maybe in the future we can convince them to add us.
Every time I send BTC to an exchange it takes a lifetime to  confirm. However, when you compare that to BlackCoin it seems almost instant. This is a major advantage and we need Bitcoin only services to understand Bitcoin is yesterdays technology.

Recruitment:
We need the most talented people onboard to help with this project. Talented and knowledgeable people are priceless, and we need to establish an environment that welcomes and nurtures talented people.
BlackCoin will succeed or fail based on the efforts of the community. Without a passionate and active community BlackCoin will slowly die like many coins before it.

"If you do what you have always done you will get what you have always gotten".....


Re-posted for clarity...
876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
but your continual boasting that this coin is all about you is starting to wear very thin.

When you make comments like that it serves no purpose but to add fuel to the flames. Over the past few days people have made open ended comments, and then when I kindly ask to show proof, they change the subject.

Yesterday Digicidal claimed I criticize others projects and that I wanted control over PR. When I asked him to post proof no response: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6528792#msg6528792

Today TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet claimed I personally "attack" people. I asked him to post one thing where I "attacked" someone without being insulted first, I am still waiting for that evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6539462#msg6539462

Now you are claiming that I boast about BC being all about me. Did you first read what he wrote? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6539817#msg6539817

Now if you think I am going to allow someone to make the claim that all I do is type on this forum without defending my work, then you have me mistaken for someone else.

Now for a third time. Please show me one post where I claim that BC is all about me. Please show me one post where I claim without me there is no BC.

877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
Do not lock this thread please.
Bitcointalk is the epicenter of the crypto world. We need visibility here too !

If they lock the tread another one will just open up. Lets just all stop this BS and get back to implementing great ideas.
878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 02:50:03 PM
and still you fucking idiots throw shit about knowing all the time that you are helping to destroy this great coin. idiots and iconic??? where is my response?Huh

What do you want me to respond with? I know it is hard to keep track with all this FUD, but please look at my recent posts. This morning I attempted to take the high ground and laughed off the juvenile video made of me. I then called for everyone to get back to the business of making money. Now we are back to the antics of yesterday. All you have to do is follow my posts....

This can easily be resolved...the Devs, the Foundation, and the rest of the people who support them go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk. The rest of us stay here and get back to business. I will not post anything negative about them, and they refrain from posting anything negative about me. I do not understand why this is so hard....
879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 02:37:49 PM
These are the people you want to trust with your money??? WOW....

IE you blackmailed the devs, along with the entire BC community about dumping your stash and crashing the BC. You're not exactly the shining knight here. You've done this before too. That is inexcusable and you owe the entire BC community an apology for that alone.

And you've done that before too. The difference is, this time the devs said, "go ahead and do it".

There you go changing history again....that is NOT what happened
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 04, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
All those that wish to go - just go.

in fact - delete this thread out of your memory as it was fine without most of you trolls anyway.


Come back WC trolls all is forgiven  Tongue



They want everyone to move away from this forum because they do not control the message here. They are starting to realize people are fed up with the BS, so by moving the "venue" they can "control" what is said and done. The only reason why they are "against" me is because people are starting to see a stark contrast between us. A team that is focused on making profits from the multi-pool with little to no original ideas, and someone that is willing to try new ideas to make this coin a success.

Now here is the irony in all of this. First they spam the forum with insults..etc..etc, and then they spam the forum with requests to move the discussion because of all the "troll activity" This similar to someone breaking into your house and stealing all of your belongings, and then returning the next day to sell you a security alarm. Everything was fine until they started posting the negativity again.

These are the people you want to trust with your money??? WOW....
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