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8701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So, why do we need to use Bitcoin? on: December 05, 2016, 03:51:19 PM
We all need to use bitcoin to make its price to grow higher and hirgher. cause of than more users and transactions then more bitcoin is popular and its price is growing. And we all wish to bitcoin price to be high to we all get rich with that.

we don't just need that but we need to introduce bitcoin to new user and start to promote the positive side of bitcoin like how bitcoin help people and how bitcoin make transaction easier, more user and more transaction always make the price better, however if more user making illegal transaction bitcoin can lose its reputation and being banned everywhere

i agree with this because this could make more adoption from other people and could help bitcoin to grow more than now and with more people use bitcoin, the price will always follow supply and demand from the market and the impact is the government will be watch this as a new solution for the economic.
8702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gradma knows about bitcoin. on: December 05, 2016, 03:47:29 PM
So how old is the "older generation"? I'm 74, and I've just hit middle age, when do I join this older generation? Smiley
My father is over 80 and I've given up on trying to teach him how to operate Windows. Bitcoin is completely beyond his cognitive abilities.
Glad to see there are mentally young old timers with us, keep it up mate!

maybe its the ages is over than 70 years, we need to teach with slowly as they can't understand if we teach with fast, i think their action become to slow to get the information that come to them but its not for all old people, sometimes the old people can understand with fast too. but its good for grandma that she can understand about bitcoin.
8703  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What’s your hidden reason for becoming a trader? on: December 05, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
as the title of the thread said "what's your hidden reason for becoming a trader?", i will not cover it into public because its a secret for the other, i will keep with me and only me that have to know my reason Grin but for the reason that i will tell to the OP is i want to make money from trading and this is why i am decided to be a trader in cryptocurrency.
8704  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to trade bitcoin(help) on: December 05, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
If you want to be involved in BTC/Altcoins then you should start from Poloniex or Bittrex. The rule is pretty simple , you buy low and sell high. I'm probably making it sound easy while It's not , you should invest in ICOs and alts that have big potentials to grow like ICNs or Safecoins and not just invest randomly.
If you want to trade with only BTC and fiat then the same rule applies , It's probably a little bit difficult as you have no reputation on the forums to start trading but It's always possible to buy from third party services and HOLD for long term. I prefer this method personally.
So  I would start with Poloniex or bittrex. I can't really understand about trading cause its my first time but I will try my very best in this trading. Even it's my first, I hope it will be successive. I think in first of trading like me is hard to understand it but when I will grow with it, later on I would really understand it.

its good to choose poloniex and bittrex and i think it could suit for you. don't think too hard to understand, just take a look on one coins for first, then take a look in the history trading market, watch the trend of the coins, make a decision in what price you want to buy, i suggest better you place your order book in second place in order book or third place order book. wait until your order book is filled, then if already filled, you can set it up on sell the coins in prices you want. of course you should take a profit for this, no problem if its only small profit, later you will learn in how to make big profit. but better to make small profit but we can get it over and over.
8705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cooperation play altcoin market poloniex and bittrex on: December 05, 2016, 03:30:31 PM
Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling.  Grin

Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders.
You just summarized what the OP meant to say - a group of private pumpers and dumpers. Might sound interesting and profitable, but it is unfortunate and an attempt to scam others and that is not what this community stands for. At any rate, it won't get anywhere unless he has tons of coin to be able to jolt the market or if there are a number of whales sharing his dream. In place of that, I would suggest looking into arbitrage trading as there seems to be lot of rooms for that.

i think its interesting idea but maybe it could work with private group and not for open group and each person will have much of stock not just having big amount of bitcoin and altcoins like Victorycoin said so that group can play with the price and the market. but i think its still difficult to tried with low volume of the coins because the devs will not keep silent for this and only watch the coins being played by some group of traders and i am sure that the devs will make anticipation for this.
8706  Economy / Economics / Re: Alibaba’s Jack Ma: “Everyone Should Have a Bank Account.” on: December 05, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
i am agree for the sentence "everyone should have a bank account" because its a way for us to save our money and make it grow with the bank. but its hard for people which don't have a stable income to save their money, because they need to fill they needs daily and will spend their money to buy something that related with their life like food and the other product.
8707  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: December 05, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
I feel that, as long as bitcoin has a price that is not stable, then bitcoin will never replace the dollar, although bitcoin has the potential for it. bitcoin prices are very easy to drop in case of panic selling, so, I feel that for the moment, bitcoin can not replace the dollar. in fact, not all people accept bitcoin

i think for replacing dollar its not so soon as we want but i will said this could be happen in future, and its need many preparation before bitcoin can be used as new currency and we know about it.
8708  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 05, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

What? Earning without actively doing something? lol, even for faucets you need to continuously fill in captchas. You cant earn without actively working or doing something, money isnt free. Trading, loaning, Signature Campaigns, Faucets, and sometimes gambling are the only legit ways apart from mining. And I advice you not to invest in cloud mining, almost 99% of them are scams or ponzi schemes.

If you cant work, you just cant earn.

but if you have passive income source like gambling website then i am sure that you can earning money without doing nothing. but if you want to make investment, i don't think its a good idea because today there are many investment programs that could make you get scam. maybe trading and make lending for traders is a good source for you.
8709  Economy / Economics / Re: How many BTC will make you a fiat millionaire in 5 years? on: December 05, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
I'd say 500 should be enough, given all the key technical changes go through smoothly

i think for me i will say more than 1000 bitcoin and if the price is only $750 x 1000 bitcoin = $750,000 and its really a big money for me  Grin but there is no exact amount money that could make us millionaire and only us that will know how much bitcoin that could make us rich.
8710  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: December 05, 2016, 02:24:45 PM
Bitcoin is not a new form of money that replaces the previous forms, but rather a new way of employing existent money in transactions. Because bitcoin is not a real money but merely a different way of employing existent fiat money, obviously it cannot replace it. In other words, a bitcoin is not itself money, because it always relies on an actual form of money(standard money) to underlie it.

i don't agree with this, because bitcoin is different than fiat, and if there is internet connection available in every country and in every place then i am sure that bitcoin will be adopt by more people and they will use bitcoin as fiat too and maybe this will happen in future. but for now bitcoin is only used for online transaction but i am sure that there are local store is available in a few city.
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8712  Economy / Speculation / Re: cryptocurrency on: December 03, 2016, 05:01:02 AM
Hello all
I am new in cryptocurrency's trading  so I would like to know from where and how I can know where it is going prices (down or up) and can I read charts
Thank you

welcome aboard in here and i hope you are enjoy while you stay here and you can found many good information and read more about bitcoin. for your question, you can watch the price of bitcoin and altcoin in coinmarket and if you have good knowledge with trading, you can go to into poloniex, bittrex, bitfinex, bitstamp, kraken and many other site to trading bitcoin - usd/euro or bitcoin - altcoin in that site i mention it.
8713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins price bump on: December 03, 2016, 04:58:22 AM
i was shocking in last night that bitcoin price is going to the moon when i see on the poloniex market, the price getting in high. i am trying to sell bitcoin in $750 and it was sold but after in few hours, the price is going to go up until $780, i only can watched it and not doing anything. i think the price will going to go up for another high price, so lets see.
8714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are these Bitsler scripts legit? on: December 02, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
i will not use any script to get a chance for the winning because i know that scripts is not for all people, its only work for few people which have a luck in gambling. so i will only use my own skill although my skills is low but its better to used.
8715  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: December 02, 2016, 02:11:54 AM
I think trading is pure 99% depending on skills. While luck on trade are those people who don't have the skills. except for gambling and it obviously depends on luck.

i am agree, better we continue to learning trading and make our own analysis so in future we can have many good experience that i am sure it will be used for our trading. and i will choose skills too like wildan88 but maybe in 90% depend on skills, and 10% depend on luck on the coins we bought.
8716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Analysis ETH on: December 02, 2016, 02:09:24 AM
the trend for ethereum is still going down in under 0.010 maybe like OP said in under 0.009, and for bitcoin, i see that the trend is going up but it hard to say how much will it be increase because its all depend on what is going on market and the traders.
8717  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now you can have anonymous throwaway virtual VISA cards instantly with Bitcoin on: December 02, 2016, 02:02:10 AM
its a great news for us and we can use it to make virtual visa card by ourself and if this is really true, i wonder can it be use for verifying paypal credit card? because if its true, i will use it to verified my paypal credit card because i think i don't want to buy virtual credit card from someone.
8718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: December 01, 2016, 01:48:04 PM
If we can quit gambling of course is very good, I'm gambling just for fun and with small amount, so gambling not make my mind as addict. I can quit anytime, but for totaly quit is not easy same like smoking.
That's the problem because you see now you are saying that you can quit gambling while you cannot quit it completely and I am extremely sorry but you might be addicted. You wont see a symptom like pimples when addicted mate, it is just you cannot quit something and that means you are now addicted. Try to stay away for few days maybe and see what I mean.
perhaps with the thinking of the people that we love, maybe we can get away from gambling. Well, maybe it would not be enough for much of the gambling, you also need to find a new hobby or occupation. because the thought of a loved one while at work, or a new hobby, will make much of a gambling game

i think we don't have to just thinking of the people that we love but we are really do with our act for this and we have a strong will to quit gambling. there are no need any reason for us to quit gambling for good if we really love the people beside us and we should quit as soon as possible so we don't have to get bad experience like we've get loss our money.
8719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 01, 2016, 01:44:30 PM
To play gambling in smart way you should know first the environment of the games, you should have enough knowledge needed on how to play the gamble you have chosen. To avoid losing continuously, limit your budgets and control yourself; don't let your emotion eats you.

don't forget to stay focus and control the greedy that we have because this two things is really related when we playing gambling and if we have miss one of these then the risk is we loss our money and it could be happen in any second. so control your mind and don't be too greedy.
8720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Guide me How do you guys analyse and pick your picks to bet! on: December 01, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
There are few things you have to remember before placing any bet on games;

1. You need to have very good knowledge regarding game and players who will be playing on the game you are going to bet on.
2. Don't just judge the result looking at odds, small odds doesn't guarantee wining.
3. Don't just bet and enjoy watching game, if you are likely to loss your previous bet try to bet on few other picks within same game to minimize your previous loss.
4. And important one, don't bet high which you can't afford to loss.

this tips is really make sense because if we don't know about this then we are only make wrong decision in any gambling games and the worst thing that could happen is we can get loss all of our money. i think this tips should be know by any traders so they can avoid to make a mistake in any bet on games.
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