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8721  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can we create investment group? on: December 01, 2016, 01:24:58 PM
i think its a good idea to do but its depend on who is the trader that we should choose because one mistake can make all of the member will get broke. beside that, if this is happen, then we talk about huge money that we can invest to that traders and i think the investor don't want to get loss with this.

but for me, better i do with my own way, because if something bad happen, then i am not blame any one. if i do my own trading, then at least i have experience that i've got from trading but if i make an invest to the traders, i don't know anything about trading and its not good for me.
8722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price increase attributed to rising Chinese demand for cryptocurrency on: November 30, 2016, 04:48:49 AM
its interesting video, but i will only view it and not thinking too much about that video. let the market and the people choose what will they want with the price of bitcoin. actually i don't trust any news beside of what is happen in the market and from the buy order and sell order on the market.
8723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why in some countries Bitcoin is banned on: November 30, 2016, 04:44:48 AM
It is not banned anywhere. They can not ban it it will never be controlled.  How will anyone know who is doing what with their bitcoin and when ? You can't probe someone owns the bitcoins so there is no case to win in court.
basically, bitcoin can not be banned, because bitcoin is a difficult instrument transactions to be tracked. but, it is easy to block sites related to bitcoin in a country. Well, maybe it was the way for them to specify a bitcoin, because it happened in a country that does not accept bitcoin bitcoin or make it illegal

maybe that country only banned for the site like OrangeII but not for the blockchain technology because if the government banned the site, i am sure that many people which using bitcoin will searching another way to use their bitcoin and i am bet that they will found that way and still using bitcoin.
8724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do Bitcoin and Chinese Yuan Values Correlate? on: November 30, 2016, 04:39:55 AM
i am sure that bitcoin and chinese yuan have correlate because in the chinese market, we can see that the trader in that market is like crazy to sell and buy their bitcoin like the bitcoin don't have the price. they sell their bitcoin 100 bitcoin with easy going, and then buy 1000 for another down the price and then sell it again when its going up. geez, if you take a look in chinese market, i am sure that you will confusing to see this.
8725  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you think will be a best time to buy bitcoin? on: November 30, 2016, 04:37:10 AM
When do you think will be a best time to buy bitcoin and when is the best time to keep bitcoin first before selling?
Well, the best time to buy bitcoin when the price at $200-400 I thought and you could earn some profits by sell your coins if that's what you looking for. But, anytime is the best time to buy if you want participate in developing bitcoin which you won't loss due to bitcoin value keep increasing from time to time. If you are daily traders, quite difficult to expected fast profits as now bitcoin price seems stable enough.

i am sure that you don't miss that moment in the last year because i see that price in november-december 2015 and after that, the price is really up until now. for the future, i think its really impossible to get down in that price unless there are many people will not believe with bitcoin and blockchain technology and then the price will reach in that number.
8726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 2017 Predictions on: November 30, 2016, 04:34:19 AM
i think for the end of 2017 its really hard for the bitcoin price to reach in above than $1,500 but i think if only $1,000 then its could be possible to reach because with many of people will start using bitcoin in 2017, the price will be go up in next year. but its just only my prediction, i don't know the reality what will happen in next 2017.
8727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy bitcoin? on: November 30, 2016, 04:31:44 AM
Do i buy bitcoins or wait?

By looking at the price of bitcoin right now, i think it's better to wait first. Because the price of bitcoin is at the highest price right now, around $730 per bitcoin. If i were you, i will wait until the price of bitcoin going down and when it happen, i will buy big amount of bitcoin on that day and wait again until the price of bitcoin going high.

i think the price is good to buy because almost a week that the price is around in that number and sometime gets down and up, but i think it will like that until the christmas and new year, after new year, we can only hope that the price will be increase like many people prediction so we should wait for a while.
8728  Economy / Speculation / Re: The adoption boom is coming on: November 30, 2016, 04:28:56 AM
It's been coming for the last 7 years. It will continue coming for the next 70 years. It won't affect the price much. The only thing that can move the price is not the adoption, it's China.

of course the price will be affect as the people wants their investment in bitcoin give them a profit. but yes, maybe china give the back up for bitcoin and we can see that for now the adoption is really coming and its happen in many country beside some of country will not give any statement.
8729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell my stocks buy bitcoin... on: November 29, 2016, 02:28:47 PM
Only if you are sure about the fact that you can make profit with the bitcoin its worth selling your stocks otherwise you should not do it because it will than be too risky for selling and buying right now.
Choose a wise moment too it will be very important.

It is better not to sell the stocks if the stocks can still make you profit. But invest in bitcoin is also a good choice.

or maybe he only sell his stock for half and after he got the money, he can buy bitcoin and keep the half of his stock to continue his jobs. and for the bitcoin he bought, maybe he can save it in his wallet or do some trading.
8730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: For the benefit of trader on: November 29, 2016, 02:22:20 PM
personally i will stay away from forex because for me, forex is more dangerous depending to trading crypto currency and if i do this, i will quickly get loss all of my money in the market. maybe i don't have the basic of trading, in all type of trading, but so far i only learn trading with crypto currency and btc-fiat. maybe if i think i am good enough in trading crypto currency, then i will trying to start trading forex.

but its a good for me to know that the OP have 8 years experience in forex so we can learn something from him. thank you OP, enjoy your day while you are here.
8731  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading like professional. on: November 29, 2016, 02:18:50 PM
Professional trader know the methodology of trading. Most skillful trader  didn't trade with emotion they have their predetermined exist plan and have good trading plans. 
 

but for me, i think not all skillful trader didn't trade with emotion, i think its because the trader itself should have many experience when they do trading and this will give impact for them. the more experience they have, they can control their self when they do trading and its really important for us especially for me, to control myself to avoid the greediness.
8732  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to sell bitcoins on an exchange on: November 29, 2016, 02:12:22 PM
i have an experience with localbitcoin and not selling bitcoins on an exchange because i don't like with the fee but i am prefer to sell my bitcoin with friends and its because i really trust him and he will help me to accept my bitcoin. and the best thing is he don't make the fee too much for me so i can save the money.
8733  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How and where do I store my bitcoins? on: November 29, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
Me, i have two wallets and one local wallet. I dont want to store my btc on one bitcoin wallet. So when the wallet encounter trouble, im able to switch with the other. Also i dont guarantee my btc is safe thats why im using these wallets. My local wallet is very useful, so i suggest you must use one. My local wallet very versatile. You can pay bills, prepaid load and convert btc into cash. Im not gonna use my btc without this.

good idea to use local wallet since we should split our bitcoin to avoid bad things that could happen. is that local wallet like bitcoin core or multibit? i use multibit because its really light to syncronize with the network and its different with bitcoin core which is need too long before its completed syncronize.
8734  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: escrow on: November 29, 2016, 01:18:00 PM
i think with we use an escrow, we can avoid if for the example someone want to scam us with our deal and this will help us to get a good deal with our customer. i agree that in this forum, there many good people with escrow and they have a good reputable too in this forum so in someday you want to make a service, you can ask their help for you.
8735  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: November 29, 2016, 10:45:31 AM
Trading is long run job and long term investment. You just can't get anything over night. It takes time and patience and you will not always win, be prepared also to lose. Many people give up on this way because they find it to hard. No one has said that trading is for everyone.
I definitely agree with your statement, I believe in trading you have to learn not only the basic as you are required to have at east a continuing education, your experience matters a lot if you consider it, with your experience this job which is unpredictable will be predictable for you in the long run.
Yes, trading really matters with skill, experience and knowledge, If you want to start trading you must have some good experience about trading so you have to do a deep study about the trading tools and strategies by using them you are going to trade. Trading is unpredictable job for those you could not find time to prepare themselves.

yes i agree but if you are new, don't be afraid if you get loss, with your loss, you can have experience to learn and hope that you don't make the same mistake you've done before. its good to always learn about trading especially to make analysis about the coins you wan to buy so you can learn something from the analysis itself.
8736  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: November 28, 2016, 07:29:28 AM
Best to start small and trade with a couple of million satoshis to get used to the markets and minimise risk, when you get comfortable then you can always scale up - I've taken that approach and am doing pretty well so far.

i think we can start with 0.001 btc for minimum amount for first time and after we can make profit, then we can increase our trading amount and start again until we have make profit. we do this over and over until we have a big profit in one time trading but its need a time to get big profit and its need many experience for this. better to get stable profit with the small until medium amount to make the profit.
8737  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: November 28, 2016, 07:19:45 AM
As for me - I like ICO. For example the last one - Golemproject. Made easy x2. But now it is 1:1. Also I am waiting for gnosis and filecoin. And my advice - don't be a greedy bagholder - try to work quickly, made x2-x3 and good by coin, the next one)
As we can see that the price of bitcoin is regularly increasing. To me, I think the best investment in the present time is to hold bitcoin and not to invest it anywhere else. But you must remain patient and not to invest or use bitcoin in anywhere else in mean time. Most of bitcoin investors slip in this point due to lack of patience.
but it is very slow method - to sit on your bitcoins. And it is not work if you do not have a big amount of bitcoins. I thought, we were speaking about a least x2 money making.
if you're really going to double your bitcoin. be prepared to afford the big risk you will take when you're in process of doubling. maybe you can go by gambling but it's definitely not investment. investment are growing your money by little and little. just prefer you to go to an ICO. because honestly you will never found a real investment which could double your bitcoin in short term of time

i am agree with this and i don't think that doubler site will help you even for the short time like in just 1 days, because as far as i know, that site is ready to scam you but we don't know exactly when its really happen then we only hope that we can make ROI+small profit from that place and i have this experience in the past. for ICO, i don't think its a good idea because there are many ICO that make a good promise when they want to launch their coins, but after that, the dev is run away with the investor's money. but its not all dev, its only for small part of the ICO devs.
8738  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where I can learn Bitcoin Trading? on: November 28, 2016, 07:13:37 AM
In this forum i think you can learn bitcoin trading here and also in exchange website or in youtube you can watch videos there where you can learn more good strategies and ideas i learn trading from youtube i start watching there. Also reading topics herei n bitcointalk forum.

you are right, i've learn many thing from this forum too and it helps me to find what i'm looking for, beside that i use search with search engine that will always helps me to find something and its really work for me. in this forum, we can learn many knowledge from all related with bitcoin, just use the search button and you can found what you need.
8739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 28, 2016, 07:10:58 AM
in my mind, the big difference between bitcoin and real money is bitcoin can be use in online world and not much store online that will accept bitcoin as their payment, and real money can be use in offline world and online world, and for the store, there is all store offline that will accepting money as payment. real money can be transferred into online world so real money have 2 benefit for us to use it, online and offline world.
8740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: November 28, 2016, 07:08:08 AM
Anyone who has a btc either small or big amount can play gambling. For beginners, I suggest to bring only a small amount for you to be able to try gambling and know how it works. As you go a long and have fun of it in your spare time don't forget to limit your budget because winning is uneasy.

i am agree with this, and i do this when i am start for the first time i am playing gambling. i only played with small amount about 0.0005 btc to start, even if in the end i only get loss all 0.0005 btc but i am satisfy because i am know how to play gambling and from that moment, i only playing gambling once for a week or so.
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