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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 01, 2023, 09:51:20 PM
In the first half Cadiz was quite surprising as they even took a 2 goal lead but Atletico quickly reacted and they managed to make a comeback in this match.
Yep. Atletico Madrid played badly in the first half. They got conceded 2 goals that means they looked not ready to defend Cadiz attack. But when it was in second half, the game changed significantly. Atletico really dominated the match, they even won 70% ball possession and made 18 shot attempts. At the final match, they could score 3 goals to secure 3 points. Well, I think the key of their winning today is about the change of some players and the tactics in second half.

Atletico's dominance is really very good and indeed Simeone's strategy for this season is very good and more varied unlike the previous monotonous game strategy.
The dominated the match, it can be seen from the stats. Sure, his tactic looks more varied during this season. It may be caused by a better squad, they have more good players in each line.

A pretty decent victory and a pretty good comeback with the dominance of the attack they had in this match. Honestly, I was a little skeptical about the bet I made but for the end of the match I still got a good thing in this Atletico bet Cheesy
You may feel worried if you watched since the first half. But you won't feel worried if you didn't watch the first half and just focus on second half.  Grin

882  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: September 29, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
Memang saat ini ada beberapa campaign yang berbayar btc yang sudah jalan lebih dari beberapa bulan, seperti sinbad, yomix, duelbits, dll. Tapi tetap saja lebih baik menjadikan bounty sebagai sampingan saja. Banyak member-member disini yang menjadikan bounty sebagai tempat pemasukan tambahan, dan kalaupun kita menjadikan bounty/campaign sebagai pekerjaan utama sementara, Ketika dapat rejeki lebih dari campaign, seyogyanya uang itu kita pergunakan untuk membuat usaha nyata seperti membuka usaha atau jasa.
Bukan hanya berjalan beberapa bulan, bahkan beberapa sigcamp paid BTC sudah berjalan tahunan. Namun sigcamp yang bahkan sudah bertahun-tahun berjalan tidak menutup kemungkinan bisa berhenti kapanpun. Dulu ada sigcamp favorit Chipmixer yang berjalan sudah bertahun-tahun, tapi pada akhirnya tiba-tiba berhenti karena suatu alasan. Ini juga bisa terjadi ke sigcamp paid BTC long term lainnnya. Makanya kita tidak bisa mengandalkan sigcamp ataupun bounty untuk menjadi pekerjaan utama. Karena sewaktu-waktu bisa saja berhenti.

Saya yakin rata-rata member SFI hanya menjadikannya sebagai side job. Kita sudah membahas hal ini bertahun-tahun. Jadi saya yakin kita tidak akan salah kaprah terhadap pekerjaan sebagai peserta bounty atau sigcamp.

883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Knowledge vs hodlings on: September 29, 2023, 09:07:19 PM
Without knowledge you will not be able to understand Bitcoin and how to hold it ,there is a saying  that "Knowledge is Power "and so without knowledge you are a failure and you  cannot understand how cryptocurency or Bitcoin works neither how the ttends goes,Reading and understanding the biases and importance of Bitcoin makes you wealthy and exposed to the crypto world on how to secure and inves in your future.
Of course, if we have no knowledge about Bitcoin, how we can trust on it? How we know its potential future?
People are brave to have Bitcoin and hold it for a long time, it must be caused by their knowledge of Bitcoin. People probably won't be interested in Bitcoin if they don't have knowledge about Bitcoin. Moreover, when people decide to invest in Bitcoin, ideally they must do a research first. Investment is a serious matter, people won't invest in Bitcoin if they don't understand the potential of Bitcoin future. So, I think knowledge isn't only a power, but it is also a reason why people do something!  Wink

Bitcoin is the Most Valuable Coin. Keeping It Will Always Make It Valuable. But I Have Concerns Bitcoin's Founders Always Hid Theirself But I Think It's Something Political
We don't know the real reason why the Bitcoin founder hides his identity. But it shouldn't be a political reason only, it is related to his safety and other serious reasons. However, we don't need to feel worried about this. Bitcoin has proven to people that it always grows continuously even if no clear information about the founder. Bitcoin is owned by all people around the world now, it is not owned by Satoshi only!  Wink

884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and it effects on: September 29, 2023, 08:46:05 PM
Fast forward to yesterday when I go into a betting shop to see someone, I was shock to see some of my guys in the neighborhood which I knew they where doing well, now looking wreshed an tattered.
They probably have a problem with their gambling habit, too. They may get addiction, same with the addiction you ever experienced.
You may think they gamble in a proper way, but they didn't. I'm sure they won't look seedy and tattered if they gamble in proper way. Most people who look messy because he spend too much time and money in gambling.

I just want to use this medium to appeal to the younger generation, please stay off gambling, if you must do so, gamble responsible, don't take it as your only source of living so it wouldn't milk you dry.
That's why there is an age limitation for the gamblers. We must be mature enough to be able to gamble legally in casinos. Most casinos obligate a minimum age of 18 years to be allowed joining the gambling games in the casino sites. They are aware that underage gamblers can have a big chance to get addiction. So, they never allow young people or kids to join gambling games. It is just for mature people, for people who understand the nature of gambling!

885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 29, 2023, 08:27:41 PM
This season Manchester City are still quite strong, they have a pretty perfect squad for this season. Their balance of strength is quite well organized from the front line to the defense line. So it is very natural that Manchester City is quite superior this season. But there are always surprises and it is very likely that Manchester City will have to be able to appear in their best form, whether against a team that has equal strength or another team.
No doubt Man City is still the strongest team in UCL this season. Sure, they have perfect players in each line, especially in attacking line. Man City also performed quite stable in every major competition so far. So, it makes sense if Man City is still the most favorite team to win the UCL title again this season. Although it is not impossible for a surprise, I believe Man City has the biggest chance to be the champion if they don't make a mistake in each match.

Real Madrid too, they are still considered a fairly strong team this season. Even though Real Madrid doesn't have a quality striker this season, they have Bellingham who they can rely on in their game. Maybe their strongest competitors are Bayern Munich or Psg this season, but we could be presented with a surprise team who is able to show their best qualities.
I don't think Real Madrid is strong enough to win UCL this season. They have a serious problem in defense and attacking line. If you learn their stats against big teams, their defense always becomes the weakest line. The latest match, their got defeated by Atletico Madrid with 3 conceded goals. I can't imagine if they play against Man City, Bayern Munich, or Barcelona. I think they may get more than 3 conceded goals. Moreover, their attackers look unconvincingly. Since they have no strong striker, their productivity in goals is decreasing very significantly this season.

886  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: September 29, 2023, 01:52:11 PM
In fact, volatility in crypto is important and an advantage for those who can take advantage of it. With high volatility, price movements are fast and it will be a place to make good fast trades, providing profits from every price movement. This will be dangerous for those who do not understand and understand how the crypto market works. They can even make long-term investments with profits of hundreds to thousands of percent if they invest in the right coins like Bitcoin. The important thing is that the money used is free money and not used for any future purposes.
Indeed. High volatility in crypto makes people to have a chance for higher profits. If there is no high volatility, there will be no significant change in crypto prices. Sure, the high volatility is also an advantage for the traders, they can earn fast profits because there is a big movement in crypto prices in the short time. So, the volatility is surely the advantage if people know how to deal with the volatility. However, for the beginners who don't understand how to deal with the volatility, it can became the big risk for their trading or investment. There are many beginners who feel panic when the prices of the coins are decreasing much. Then, they do panic selling and exit the crypto space.

Regarding the money to use for crypto investment, surely it should be the money that we can afford to lose it. It is a common advise that we can often see to the people who still don't understand it. Since it the target for the long term and no guarantee about the profits, it is a big mistake if we use the money that we use for our basic needs/necessities.

887  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you deal with financial stress? on: September 28, 2023, 09:32:30 PM
A global crisis began after Covid 19 and this crisis still continues its effects. After something ends, a new crisis occurs, such as a war or a refugee crisis, while some balances are disrupted and inflation is fueled in the world. Housing and food prices are currently on the rise all over the world, there is too much demand and the supply does not meet the demand. You need to stay away from stress. First of all, it will be healthy for you to stay calm, make a plan for yourself and continue believing in that plan. Everyone is experiencing these financial problems right now, and they are very serious. If you can meet your shelter and food needs, of course you will need time to find a clean method. Just use your time wisely.
Agree. Covid19 changed many things, it triggers worse global economy. Many people lost their jobs, many companies got bankruptcy, and most countries experienced crisis on many sectors. It became worse with the war between Russia-Ukraine. The petrol price is increasing significantly, it bring a big impact on the price foods and many other things.

Yep, we must be calm, just try to make a good plan for the future. If we panic, we can focus on making an appropriate plan. In this situation, we must be smart to find out the solution. I think we can be more tight in spending money, and we must get more sources for income. The financial problem will be solved if we have more income and less in spendings.


888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 28, 2023, 09:13:52 PM
He confirmed that he made a Mistake when he set out his team against ATM but had to correct that in this match. The attacking dou of Rodrigo and Joselu was crucial and that was what was missing in the last match. Brahim Diaz has waited to have his opportunity to start today and he definitely backed that with a goal which he deserves, I just hope he doesn’t get pulled back to the bench to accommodate the return of Vinicius. A great game by Madrid and I think this season tittle will be interesting.
Ancelotti may realize that Real Madrid was playing too defensively against Atletico Madrid. They have too many center midfielders at that time, they only have Rodrygo as a pure attacker. I think the result can be different if Ancelotti put Joselu-Rodrygo-Brahim Diaz on the front line. These 3 players deserve to play as main attackers and they are supported by Bellingham-Kroos-Valverde in the midfield line. TBH, this formation that I expected on the match against Atletico Madrid.

I hope that Ancelotti will admit his mistakes and take better steps instead for the upcoming matches. If we look at the tactics of Ancelotti against Atlético Madrid, then there were quite weak tactics; there were many mistakes in the defense; and there was also a lack of confidence in the attack.
Ancelotti seems aware about his mistake. He changed the tactic and rotated some players in the last match (against Las Palmas). He knows that Real Madrid attacking line has a problem, it is not very offensively. He also realizes that he can rely on Bellingham only as the machine goal of Real Madrid. Regarding the problem on the defense line, it is quite complicated. Since Militao and Carvajal got injured, Real Madrid defense looks a bit weak. They actually needs a new defender to strengthen their defense.

889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 28, 2023, 08:47:49 PM
Napoli reportedly refused to apologize to Osimhen, the club felt the post was not intended to ridicule its player. Exactly as you said, it is surprising to learn that the club refused to apologize to Osimhen. Most recently, Osimhen was seen not executing a penalty in the match against Udinese, Piotr Zielinski took over the task to do so, Napoli managed to get full points and Osimhen contributed one goal.
If Napoli thinks Osimhen is still their best striker, they must apologize or make a clarification with Osimhen. Napoli management must let the public know that they have no problem, it is just a misunderstanding. But if Napoli won't have a plan for this, it means Napoli is ready to lose Osimhen and they don't care about him. It is actually quite confusing because Napoli sets a huge price for him in the last transfer window. It indicates that Napoli doesn't want to lose him.  Undecided  Regarding the penalty, Osimhen may be not ready to execute it at that time. So, he lets Zielinski to execute it.  Wink

If this problem continues, I think Napoli will lose their assets on the transfer market. Not a few clubs want his services, it could be that Real Madrid and Chelsea will become new ports for Osimhen. Los Blancos need an ideal striker as a replacement for Benzema, while the Blues need a better striker than Nicolas Jackson when Nkunku is injured.
Yep, he probably will move to another team if the problem continues and make him feel uncomfortable.
Real Madrid should be an ideal destination for him. Real Madrid needs a striker like him, they have no top striker now. Real Madrid only has Joselu who still doesn't deserve to be the main striker of Real Madrid.

890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WHAT WILL BE THE FINAL SITUATION OF BITCOIN? on: September 28, 2023, 08:30:53 PM
How Much Do You Trust Bitcoin?
Why you should ask this question?  Huh
When we invest in Bitcoin, it means we no doubt with Bitcoin. We even trust on Bitcoin for our future. Investing in Bitcoin for a long term, means we 100% believe in the future of Bitcoin. We won't put our money for many years if we don't trust in Bitcoin.

Anyway, before you ask others, can you answer how much you believe in Bitcoin?

Those who invested later, IS ANYONE BUYING BITCOIN AT 60 K?
Of course, there should be people who bought Bitcoin at $60k. I still remember when BTC was around $60k, people believe it will be $100k. At that time, people may have no doubt to buy Bitcoin at $60k. But sadly, it stopped in $69k (latest ATH). So, people who bought at $60k probably still keep their Bitcoin and wait for the next ATH.

Imagine Buying Bitcoin AT 60 K And Your Money Is Now 0
As long as those people didn't sell their Bitcoin and keep it on the wallets, their money isn't 0. You must know that Bitcoin price never dropped to 0 value. So, how can their money to be 0?

Well, Bitcoin Stagnated in the 20-30 Band, Do You Think the Number Could Fall?
Do you mean the price looks stable around $20k-$30k?
It is because we are still in the bearish season and there are many FUDs lately. But if you understand the havling schedule and bullrun season, you must be aware that we are heading those green market period. So, the price of Bitcoin seems to increase, it probably won't be stuck (sideways) anymore.

891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are new altcoins being too risky? Current market trend on: September 27, 2023, 09:43:50 PM
why we need to trust new when there are already good old project that making best.
for years now we have seen those in ranking and some in top 100 that making act with good reviews and good actions
This is what many people think now. People saw top/old altcoins which have good reputation for years, have cheap prices now. So, they probably prefer to buy those coins than new altcoins with have unclear future. People should choose more secure and reputable altcoins as long as they are in cheap prices. Since the bearish season, it makes sense if people will prioritize top altcoins. They may consider new altcoins when they top/old altcoins have expensive prices already.

perfect , why nneed to support altcoins when there is Bitcoin? I must admit that having some small part in altcoins , but I will keep buying bitcoin more and more before the halving.
People must prioritize Bitcoin for their main asset, but many of them also want to hold altcoins because they offer higher profits. We can't deny that we need altcoins, too. We can diversify crypto assets with altcoins. Normal people must be interested in the potential of higher profits.

892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 27, 2023, 09:32:47 PM
However, when a club changes coaches then of course there will definitely be changes within the club. Even though it's still the same players. But with a different coach it will definitely still make things different. That's what happened in Naples.
Sure, there should be some changes when a club has a new coach. I can understand if Napoli will be difficult to win against Inter Milan, AC Milan, or Juventus. But I can't understand if Napoli gets difficulty to win against the team like Bologna and Genoa. I'm starting to have a big question with Rudi Garcia, how difficult to handle Napoli players that they seems hard to win against small teams?

However, the most striking difference from Napoli is Osimhen's performance which has decreased. Osimhen's skills in swiping and running are still the same. But Osimhen's shooting accuracy doesn't seem as sharp as last season. I see Osimhen missing too many opportunities.
But I still hope that Napoli can restore their confidence and return to their best performance.
His accuracy may be decreasing a bit, but I think he still has good quality. What I see that Osimhen has no good motivation as the previous season. I don't know what's happening with him. I heard the rumor that he has a problem with Rudi Garcia. If it is true, I can understand if his motivation is decreasing much now.

893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 27, 2023, 09:24:55 PM
It's hard to believe that Girona was able to perform brilliantly until the seventh week. The interesting thing about Girona FC at the moment is that they are undefeated and the productivity of the goals they score. Even though they don't have world class players, they have successfully recorded 18 goals, this is truly an extraordinary achievement. Victory at home to Villarreal made them succeed at the top of the standings.
Everyone must be surprised with Girona performance, no one predicted this team to lead La Liga standings. Yep, they have no top players, they just have average players. Eric García, Daley Blind, Yangel Herrera, or Cristhian Stuani are actually world class players but they can't be categorized as top players. And the interesting fact, there is a rising player who is still 19 years old, named Sávio. This boy already contributed 4 assists so far. I'm sure there will be many clubs to monitor this boy.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid recovered after suffering defeat last week, even though they did not field a full squad, Ancelotti was very relieved by the achievements of his troops. The 2-0 victory over Las Palmas put them ahead of Barcelona again.
Ancelotti changed the tactic and he made a new combination in the starting lineup. Joselu and Brahim Díaz played as starters. This looked effectively, since these players contributed scoring goals in this match. I really hope that Real Madrid can play more offensively like today, Ancelotti can't rely on Bellingham only. He must consider Joselu and Brahim Díaz as machine goals as well.

894  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BTT Perlahan Ditinggalkan? on: September 27, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
Hampir semua member akan berpikir kalau sistem baru yang diterapkan hingga saat ini, akan dianggap menyulitkan oleh member baik baru ataupun lama yang nyerah.
Akan dianggap menyulitkan jika malas berusaha. Dulu yang rata-rata protes dengan sistem baru, itu mereka yang habitnya post sebaris atau mereka yang hanya fokus dengan campaign sosmed. Untuk yang dari dulu kebiasaannya sudah benar, tentu tidak mempermasalahkan karena itu sama sekali bukan kendala besar.

Padahal member Indonesia ini memiliki support yang bagus untuk menaikkan rank member. Member baru yang datang atau member lama yang kembali dan mencoba untuk menaikkan rank di forum bisa menjadi keputusan yang tepat.
Setuju. Member-member SFI punya kesadaran yang bagus untuk mensupport siapapun yang mau berusaha naik rank. Jangan lupa juga bahwa kita punya beberapa MS yang konsisten memberikan support merit untuk post-post yang layak. Jadi sebenarnya memang tidak ada masalah dengan support dari teman-teman SFI.

Yang jelas, dukungan member baru juga diperlukan agar semakin banyak member yang bergabung, tentunya akan berimbas pada potensi kampanye yang berjalan.
Kalau imbas ke campaign, sepertinya tidak terlalu signifikan Om. Misalnya pun member baru dari Indonesia sepi, member baru dari negara lain masih cukup banyak. Apalagi member luar sana juga bagus kualitas postnya, makanya makin sulit bersaing di board Service jika member SFI malas untuk meningkatkan kualitasnya.

895  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 27, 2023, 08:37:55 PM
Sepertinya bakal seperti binance ke depannya saat mereka delist BUSD di semua pair market mereka kemungkinan juga Tokocrypto bakal delist dalam waktu dekat dengan pair BIDR.
Dugaan Om benar. Kemaren Tokocrypto mengumumkan akan delist 5 pair BIDR (BNB/BIDR, TKO/BIDR, XRP/BIDR, SOL/BIDR, dan DOGE/BIDR). Yang tersisa tinggal BTC/BIDR, ETH/BIDR, USDT/BIDR, dan BUSD/BIDR. Sepertinya sisa 4 pair BIDR ini pun berpotensi untuk delist juga jika pihak Tokocrypto menganggap sudah tidak diperlukan.

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Delist pair BIDR ini juga beriringan dengan delist pair-pair BUSD. Jadi untuk yang masih punya BIDR dan BUSD, silahkan convert ke koin lainnya. Untuk BUSD sepertinya masih akan dikasih waktu untuk convert ke koin lain hingga Februari 2024.



896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 26, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
I think Napoli have been unlucky so far. This is what is difficult for every club to implement, maintaining last season's top position will always be difficult because the team's weak points are not addressed and largely because Napoli have lost several important factors this is surprising. Indeed, in the match against Bologna, they could dominate but they just need a little luck and be more clinical in taking advantage of their opportunities.
Why they are unlucky? They actually still have enough top players. They just can't optimize their performance because they have new tactics/strategies. Now, with a new coach (Rudi Garcia), Napoli applies a different game style. Under a new coach, Napoli players' mentality seems not as well as in the previous season. That's why Napoli turns to be like a different team this season.

IMO, Napoli doesn't need to maintain the top position as the last season. But they should be in the top 4 (UCL zone) at least. And Napoli shouldn't get difficulty against small teams like Bologna and Genoa. We know that Napoli still has Osimhen, Kvaratskhelia, Zielinski, and Rrahmani. With these players, Napoli should play better than the 2 last matches in Serie A.

897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 26, 2023, 09:57:06 PM
De Gea's career in Europe is almost over, chances are very low to perform for any European club. Since there is very little chance of him staying in Europe, it would not be a good decision for him to retire now as he can go to Saudi Arabia and earn money if he wants. It would never be right for him as a footballer to turn down his money offer where he is still fit enough to play. A few days ago there were rumors that he would retire from football if he couldn't play for a club in Europe, I think that would be a stupid decision for him. If he has an opportunity to earn money, he should make use of that opportunity.
I don't think his opportunity to join European clubs is rather small. He still has good skills and he has no injured problem. The obstacle is only about the salary, De Gea must lower his salary to make European clubs interested to hire him. I'm sure there are many clubs in Europe to make offer if he decides to lower his salary. And De Gea mustn't expect to join top clubs only, it can lower the chance to get a new club.

Sure, I also agree that De Gea shouldn't decide to retire now. It is too early to retire, De Gea still has enough time to play again in his best form. If he never gets a new club in Europe, joining Saudi clubs isn't a bad idea. I think De Gea only wants to play as the main GK, he isn't target to play in certain leagues.

898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 26, 2023, 09:48:51 PM
Alvaro Morata was undoubtedly the player of the match in their Spanish La Liga match yesterday. His second goal that was scored in less than two minutes after the second half kicked off served as a sucker punch to Real Madrid as they couldn't come back from two goals down against a strong Atletico Madrid.
Agree, Morata was the man of the match. He became the player who made the difference on the match. His 2 headed goals made Atletico win at the end of the match. It's sad for Real Madrid because Morata himself was a former Real Madrid striker and was starting his career in Real Madrid academy (a part of Real Madrid Castilla).

Unexpected performance from Mallorca scoring two goals. The first goal have come on the 8th minute of the match from Muriqi and this added pressure on Barcelona. After hard fight goal came for Barcelona at the 41st minute from Raphinha. This boosted the performance of the team, but Mallorca didn't delay for the next goal. During the additional time goal came for Mallorca from Abdon and once again the score leads 2-1. In the second half with much effort Barcelona's Lopez made the team's second goal in the 75th minute.
The final score is Mallorca 2-2 Barcelona. Barcelona failed to get 3 points today, they only got 1 point. If Girona wins against Villareal tomorrow, they will be in 1st place. Real Madrid also has a chance to shift Barcelona's position if they win against Las Palmas tomorrow. So, it is very unfortunate that Barcelona missed 3 points today, their position isn't safe now.

899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in new projects. on: September 26, 2023, 09:34:42 PM
Investing in top coins isn't the best investment advice either. Top coins haven't been growing as fast as they used to for a long time. At best, you will get the same returns as investing in bitcoin. If there is not much difference, what is the point of investing in top altcoins if you can just buy bitcoin and not expose yourself to the risks inherent in altcoins like BNB or DOT?
Bitcoin is surely the most recommended coin for investment. But investing in top altcoins isn't bad idea, I think the top coins deserve to buy for investment. If they aren't growing for a few years, it is because of the bearish period. The point that people choose top altcoins is for diversification, people assume they can get good profits in top altcoins as well. Some people think altcoins have higher volatility than Bitcoin, they expect to get bigger profits in top altcoins.

However, if we don't want to take the risks on altcoins, choosing BTC as a single asset is okay. I know there are some people that only choose Bitcoin for their investment because they think BTC is the main coin and the safest crypto coin. It is actually depending on each perspective to choose which coin for investment.


900  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 26, 2023, 09:12:53 PM
Pengumuman Pasangan IDR

Akhirnya, di Tokocrypto sekarang sudah ada pasangan IDR lebih banyak lagi. Dan yang paling penting ada pair BTC/IDR yang udah bisa mulai di nikmati pengguna sejak jam 15.00 WIB tadi. Tinggal nunggu nasib BIDR nanti bakal bagaimana. Soalnya PR juga buat yang punya BIDR tapi pair IDR sepertinya semakin banyak aja dari waktu ke waktu.
Dari awal saya memang sudah yakin jika pada akhirnya bakal ada pair BTC/IDR, tapi mereka rilis belakangan untuk menjaga volume trading koin lainnya. Secara logika memang aneh jika tidak ada pair IDR untuk koin utama (BTC, ETH, BNB, TKO). Sekarang terjawab sudah pertanyaan atau keluhan teman-teman pengguna Tokocrypto terkait pair BTC/IDR.  Wink

Untuk BIDR, saya kira masih bisa terus eksis selama trading volumenya aman. Jikapun akan dihapuskan, tidak akan serta merta dihapuskan dalam waktu dekat. Karena BIDR ini sudah lama eksis di Tokocrypto, mungkin saja banyak yang keep BIDR dalam jumlah besar. Selain itu, pasti pihak Tokocrypto akan mengevaluasi dulu seperti apa volume trading harian BIDR dalam beberapa hari/minggu ke depannya.

Saya tidak tahu persis apakah saat ini masih gratis atau tidak ketika menggunakan transaksi internal yang menghubungkan kedua exchange tersebut.
Setau saya untuk transfer internal gratis Om. Cuman untuk trading pasangan BIDR, sepertinya ada biayanya (paling tidak kena pajak).  Grin

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