oh, i missed this post yesterday. very nice to see vanig on CCN. will read this one later that's a good sign, because CCN reports only about good projects CCN does definitely check the projects they are publishing an article about. But, just in general, we have to keep in mind that this is a sponsored article. So the project paid to get it published on CCN. Not saying this is bad. I am sure a lot of new people learned about Vanig due to this article. Agree it's a sponsored post, but it gives good information about Vanig project. It's good way of marketing as also. It is still a form of marketing and this is a must if they want the project to go far. And also the site is a very well respectable site that won't just post about any project. Even if it was a sponsored advert, I'm pretty sure CCN wouldn't post about a specific project just for some money. It would cause them a bad reputation. I'm glad to see CCN post about Vanig, and good for the project to get the recognition it deserves. Sure, that's what I meant. CCN wouldn't allow some random, fishy projects to publish a article on their side. So even if this is a sponsored article, it's still great to attract new people. |
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It’s a large supply but understandably so they are dealing with the potential for a massive market we’re not talking some minor niche market we’re talking about the ability to trade power internationally
The project initially is goaled on dealing with big companies and big money. And as we can see - it happens for real. They have good development plan and they realize it cautiously and inevitably. Bittwatt started in EU but they will expand its operations beyond EU. I see less risk in this project if someone wants to Investe. Yes, it starts in Eastern Europe and then continues in the EU. But I find it interesting that they chose Singapore as the only place outside the EU any idea why? I am not sure but could it be for tax reasons? I know a lot of other crypto projects that all have their headquarters in Singapore as well. |
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oh, i missed this post yesterday. very nice to see vanig on CCN. will read this one later that's a good sign, because CCN reports only about good projects CCN does definitely check the projects they are publishing an article about. But, just in general, we have to keep in mind that this is a sponsored article. So the project paid to get it published on CCN. Not saying this is bad. I am sure a lot of new people learned about Vanig due to this article. |
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I can see Emmie the hardworking CEO all smiles and at work, i have a good vibes about this project very much due to the hardworking nature of team especially CEO herself, thanks for the link and i think i have to on my notification so i get update real fast about the project on twitter It will be interesting to get to know if they managed to find some investors on this meetup. Does anyone know if they will release further information about this? Or will the investors back up the project in private without us noticing it? |
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It’s a large supply but understandably so they are dealing with the potential for a massive market we’re not talking some minor niche market we’re talking about the ability to trade power internationally
I wouldn't say that 400 mln tokens can be considered as a large supply. Just look at Ripple, IOTA or some other coins/tokens in the top 100. They all have even a bigger supply but that doesn't mean that there is not enough demand for the tokens or that they can't become really valuable. |
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In what way does Superbloom distinguish itself from other projects such as kickico? what is the advantage to investing in superbloom?
I think the main advantage with this one is that they do the review before listing any ICO; the ICO to list is authenticated. Also there rewarding is different. With this you are rewarded based on hodling and there is not listing fee. yes, it is great that superbloom also takes over the review of the ICOs, so we can inform us directly on their side. And I guess we get the tokens from the ICOs to the cheap ICO price. There comes a lot together with time. For me, the greatest selling point of Superbloom is that you get tokens from the ICOs on the platform just by holding Superbloom tokens. I am not sure but I don't think KickICO is offering something similar. |
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Thanks for the link. I read out that article and found some interesting info. " Vanig is forming exciting partnerships in the South East Asia region. Here are alreay some of their partners: iFashion Group, MegaxStore, iCommerce Asia. I just did a quick research on the partners you mentioned Ctrades31 they all have prominent prospects Vanig sure knows how secure good partnership. The partnerships are looking impressive, they keep delivering good news. 8500 People at Consensus2018. Great time to be part of a blockchain and such an impressive event https://t.co/8v4si9Vp9LGreat work for the Vanig team Yeah, these partnerships already looking very good. And the possible new partnerships they forged at Consensus aren't even announced yet. I am confident we will here great news from Vanig soon. |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb  Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins  Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. Yea. It is definitely not a bad asset. There are many good sides of the project and their use case also is a cool one. But this is crypto world, no one can say for a fact how plans will work out. Nobody should invest based on the belief in such theoretical price predictions. Sure they can become true but we saw it in the past. It's very hard to actually predict prices correctly. |
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I must confess that I already had that thought. Since the hurricane there is a lot of garbage to burn. I did not want to mention it, since I do not think it's right to benefit from the suffering of others. But actually they are also helped, because the waste is rapidly becoming less and less. I hope the population can benefit as well Its sad actually what happened but we just have to move on with life but looking at the bright side 4new will help in cleaning the environment that is one of the major advantages i know with 4new. I think part of the main reason 4NEW decided to have a plant in Puerto Rico is to help reduce waste because when I had a view of Puerto Rico from my television set the hurricane effect really did look bad so I believe it's not all about business for 4NEW as they intend to help Puerto Rico get better. Okay, this article really shows that Puerto Rico urgently needs a sustainable solution for their waste problem. This could indeed just be the perfect task for 4New. |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. Right now the total crypto market cap is at $375 bln. Just compare this market cap to the one from big companies like Apple. There is soo much room for growth. And when we see a market cap of a >trillion, just imagine how all coins will profit from this. |
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So, I see the cap >300bn$, all will be good, if about project 4New - I think we will see big success ! But it is only my opinion!
I don't understand what you want to say here. $300bn cap is for what? I don't see any such figure in 4new project. May be there is some typo? What he wants to say about "300bn$, all will be good"  . 4New's total cap is 75M. Where he saw 300bn? Or he got confused with another project's cap? If the total supply was 300bn then it would be disaster, because this will affect the price of the tokens. Most of the coins who have a huge total supply are low in price. There is just too many coins available. That was just a Newbie account who is probably trying to farm activity. His post makes no sense and I guess he just added 4New to his post so that it looks like he knows what he is talking about. |
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Burning of unsold token is definitely a good step to increasing the value of the project, cutting circulation is super solid plan and I look forward to seeing it work
This is always the case, reducing the available supply, is always a positive return for the project, it also has better trust by cutting the idle assets from the chain reassures customers that unsold tokens don't get used for other things down the line. Thats why theirs always a push for ICO's to confirm they will burn tokens before the exchange listings In fact this process is pretty natural. Total supply of the project is the money people spent during ICO. If there are tokens that haven't been sold then these tokens cost nothing. So they must be burned not to dump the price of the remaining. Do you guys really think there will be unsold bittwatt tokens? I think all tokens will be sold soon and we don't have to worry about it. with 9 days left and the status bar almost closing i don't think there would be any token available for burning however i can't find information on total supply and intending circulating supply, kindly help out thank you If no token is available for burning. it's mean the hardcap is reached. right? this project is good enough. Many of people are interested to join of the project. If there are any unsold tokens and the project has stated that unsold tokens will be burned, yes it means there are no unsold tokens if hard-cap is reached, which is in itself a nice achievement As we can see only 9 days left for ICO end date. And I expect listing immediately after the ICO end. But as of now other than cross exchange I don't see any other exchange information. So this means Bittwatt only list at cross exchange? Normally listing information should not be disclosed until it is confirmed. The information will come very soon. Knowing the efficiency of the team, it will be listed very soon. Yeah, right now discussing future exchanges that will list the Bittwatt tokens is just pure speculation. But I am sure the team already made some deals in the background and will let us know once the sale is over. |
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The Telegram admins are going to be relaying any info from the Consensus event to us as soon as they hear, really recommend everyone who isn't already a member to join their channel: Official Telegram Community For Vanig.io Description https://t.me/vanigplatformI cant wait for the announcement to be made, this gives a good indication which direction the project is tuned to, I will keep an eye out for the pinned posts in https://t.me/vanigplatformReally good to hear that. It seems like I am not the only one who is eagerly waiting what news the Consensus event brought for Vanig. |
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is there any chance of being on major exchanges such as Bittrex? and how much tokens already raised?
I'm sure the team have ambitions on this like most projects no doubt do but it's likely at the start that they wont. These bigger exchanges charge an absolute fortune and it's just not practical for most. You are right, most times is even best to start from a smaller platform and move to the bigger ones, reason that it has a kind of influence when a project move from small to big, the community will understand that they are serious but that aside, i usually say that big exchanges can't help a bad project, a project with a difference will stand out, no matter the avenue they choose as an exchange I think the best approach is to use some not so famous exchanges at first time. Trading should begin from small volumes. And then when everybody is sure about reliability of token they can move to bigger exchanges. It's most of the time also a question of the money a project wants to spend. Do they decide to spend a huge sum of the money they just raised to get listed on a major exchange to please all the 'moon-kiddies' or do they decide to go for smaller, cheaper exchanges, build up some trading volume there and increase the community so that maybe the community can help to get listed on Binance and co. by voting for example. I think cross exchange at start is fine. But not all people like to have multiple exchange account for trading. So I personally feel that Bittwatt should list at one popular exchange. In cases like this, I believe the best method to use is to create a poll for community members to vote and then the listing can be done according to the top voted exchanges in a descending other I don't think it's for the community to decide what exchange it's on. The team are the ones going to be paying the fees (And the top exchanges charge upto $1mill..) id rather the funds went towards development of the project. This is my opinion, too. Why spending million(s) on an exchange listing when you could use this money to bring the project forward and there are also much cheaper exchanges. |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
One day too late! Until yesterday there was still 20% Early Bird Bonus, since today it is only 10% Of course it's still nice, but annoying if you discover the project exactly one day late. In my opinion, you do not go wrong with an investment here, and the more you deposit, the more bonus there is. Welcome to the club:-) I know, I am late but at least I have not missed the flight  . Tickets are costly now but I think it's still worth buying even with 10% bonus. If you are truly convinced and like the 4New initiative, then a difference of 10-20% does not matter much in the long run Exactly. There is still the possibility that the tokens will be worth even more when they are traded on the exchanges. So investing in the ICO could still make sense even in the end of a sale. |
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I know it is a bit early but are there already any projects confirmed that will hold their pre-ICOs on the Superbloom platform.
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I am thirst for more partnership announcements from the Bittwatt team. When will be the next partnership announcement come in? How big would be that announcement? Fingers crossed and waiting..
A partnership announcement would be really great to have now. I think this part of the progress would mostly involve getting more suppliers on board and I think they will be fueling the network with more offers. Your right, at this stage in the ICO - in the final hurdle with no bonuses on offer, now would be a perfect time to release an update or partnership giving a good reason for other investors to get on board and reach the hardcap I am sure team will certainly have some idea. Thats why they have marketing people right? Lets just wait and watch and may be look for any last minute announcements which could trigger a huge buy orders. I agree i was also asking myself this question how will they gain more investors without a bonus for the last phase? i am pretty sure they have something big planned to get a lot of attention. I suspect they are using it as a strategy for rounding up the whole token sales at the stage before the "no bonus stage". I mean people will want to buy before the stage ends cause they already know they will get no bonus if they wait till the last stage It doesn't need a bonus to attract investors. It can be cheaper to buy the tokens now during the ICO than after the sale from someone else at an exchange. That's enough of a incentive to invest in the last phase if you ask me. |
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